Subj : Re: Hamshack Hotline
To   : All
From : dotslash
Date : Sat Mar 19 2022 01:37 pm

Hello Andre,

On 18/03/2022 22:14, Andre Robitaille wrote:
>   >> Propretary SIP and fax over the internet.
>   do> To be fair, SIP and fax via VoIP is not based on proprietary standards,
> 
> I have no idea what word I was trying to write at the time. Proprietary wasn't right, and clearly makes no sense.
> 
>   do> I belong to two radio clubs here in the UK, and both of them have
>   do> official Discord sites. The one club (M0OUK) makes heavy use of the
> 
> You missed my point, which was... Other than novelty, what is the purpose of setting up a SIP/fax network over the internet to talk to other hams, when they're also on Discord that already has much better quality voice/video/files?

Sorry my bad, I did indeed miss your point completely.

> IP Phones on AREDN Mesh I get. Seems pretty innovative and actually has something to do with RF. Hamshack Hotline just looks like EmComm LARPing.

Fair enough, it does seem that at least one of the main ideas behind HH 
is in fact EmComm, which does look a bit "stretchy". Even so, still not 
a bad thing. Having played around with VoIP in a previous life, setting 
up such a network is actually great fun even if it doesn't have anything 
directly to do with RF. But then again you can level the same criticism 
at DMR/DV/EchoLink over the internet, which doesn't make them any less 
fun or relevant. You can also say the same of me playing with old POCSAG 
pagers, welcome back to the 80's! :-D Still it's fun, and with DAPNET we 
have a kinda/sorta world-wide pager network that can be used. Even with 
RF involved (it uses UHF 439.987.500 in my specific case), it's hard to 
find anything less "relevant".

I have forgotten about AREDN, thank you for reminding me. That's an 
awesome project, unfortunately not well represented outside the US (at 
least from what I can see, I could very well be wrong). Here in the UK 
there are nothing similar that I could find, although there has been a 
number of attempts to get similar mesh networks going in the past. I'll 
have to dig deeper, there just might be something around that I don't 
know about.

73,
Jan Henkins (M7HNK)

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