Subj : Coming back to Linux
To   : hyjinx
From : Accession
Date : Fri Sep 19 2025 07:01 pm

Hey hyjinx!

On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 20:20:32 +1200, you wrote:

 > I'll have another look at the website, but last week or so, I was
 > watching some fella running a Linux box and he had a nice GUI which
 > dashboarded his proxmox host and all the VMs were running all his VMs,
 > Windows 11, all the Linux you could shake a stick at. Just like VMWare
 > ESXi or similar. The good thing about proxmox is that it is running
 > Debian under the hood, so you can do what you want on the host machine
 > too (as long as you are OK with running Debian as your machine).

I would swear that he was running Proxmox as a VM, or dual booting or something. Proxmox (much like VMWare ESXi) is basically an operating system, and is installed on bare metal.

Mind you, VMWare has other options that can run on an existing operating system, so maybe Proxmox has something similar available that I've not looked at?

 > What do you think about the guest VMs though? Do you think they will get
 > enough graphics grunt to do things like light gaming?

All depends on how much graphics and CPU/RAM you can give them.. and what you specifically mean by "light gaming". But yes, I'd imagine it's doable with the right hardware and allocations to your VM.

 > Good to know. There is a 'Palit' Geforce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB for $631 at our
 > 'cheap' computer store. Is this a good card? I really don't know what
 > all the numbers mean, and what memory to shoot for on a graphics card
 > these days. The difference in price between a 5060 TI with 16GB is only
 > $220 ($861).

Seeing as though I've never heard of the brand 'Palit', I'd probably suggest you go with a 5060TI with 16GB from a trusted brand for both what you want to do, as well as how long you actually want to do it for. I think the 8GB will bottleneck much faster than double that. The 5060TI 16gb is quite a bit better, and should last you longer, to be honest.

For what it's worth, when I got my 3060, it was because it had 12GB. This was 5+ years ago, I believe. It still holds up to any newer games I throw at it. My son plays Borderlands 4, which just came out, and actually required more minimal specs than most games. It runs just fine.  Whenever it comes time to upgrade, I'll probably do something similar (lower end of the generation, but higher VRAM for longevity while saving a lot of money).

 > I think it might more be global economics - in NZ we get affected by
 > every country. Most of the stuff we get is from Asia because it's most
 > geographically close, so the knock on effects of global tarrifs are
 > making a huge impact on our country. Despite NVIDIA being an American
 > company, the chips on the cards often come from elsewhere, and with
 > brand names like 'Zotac' and 'Palit', I can guarantee you those 'NVIDIA'
 > cards do not come from NVIDIA HQ in the USA. It would be political and
 > economic suicide for a nation of 5 million to impose retalitory
 > sanctions on the USA.

I've heard of Zotac, but not Palit. I used to love EVGA, but they stopped making graphics cards. My latest is a Gigabyte Auros, which hasn't done me wrong in 5+ years so I'll probably stick with the brand on the next adventure, when the time comes.

 > Thank you so much for your kind advice!

Of course! If you do any studying up on any of this stuff, please feel free to let me know on the new tech as well, as I only tend to dive deep when I'm in the market to buy, so I've been out of the game for a bit, too. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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