Subj : Re: Hi all!
To   : Dmxrob
From : scarface
Date : Mon Sep 01 2025 10:48 am

 Dm> Personally, I think its a disaster nowadays. Nobody knows how to debug
 Dm> anything.  They put out the most inefficient code that is so full of
 Dm> errors and bugs that it would make you wince.  Most folks don't even
 Dm> understand what the code even does just "ChatGPT told me to use this".

This. I helped a senior platform engineer with using the chrome/firefox dev tools showing the debugger. I got the feeling they had never even thought of how they could use it so just avoided it. They were impressed with some of the things I did in vim during our session. Asked how they would do X that they could do in VScode, and I'm like hmm, like this. I suggested they stop by any time for a little applied vimgolf to our actual work. This is the peer programming I like, where knowledge gets shared.
My wife who doesn't work in IT knows how to debug more than most junior devs. She does excel spreadsheets, which in previous jobs ppl have dismissed the idea of the utility of this (and one job I actively told ppl not to have macros), but I see what she produces. It does a job, and she has fun working out how to make it work. She applies it at work more and more. Gives her more opportunities.

 Dm> If you ask someone to help/assist with something outside their domain,
 Dm> they look at you like you are an alien.  They simply don't understand
 Dm> how to take skillset "A" and translate that into at least a beginning
 Dm> knowledge for "B".

As someone that has gone from sysadmin to web dev to pentester to security dev, I find it baffling the people that just stay in their own domain. I tell them about the projects I do on the side, purely for the sake of learning. I know I won't get anything good out of the project, and that something else that does whatever I can do better already exists, but meh. I don't know, and I want to know.
Opens up a lot more career and hobby opportunities.

 Dm> play Fortnight or Minecraft they are "IT" experts.  

Once they start making mods, hosting servers, customising servers, build a (simple) clone game, then they become on the journey to become experts. And they find they are right at the start of a vast forest to journey through for this expert status.
I think I'm an expert in some areas of IT, and I know, I just know, that I have absolutely no idea about some other area. I also know that stuff I did really well a year ago I might not be that great at now. I find my life journey of trying to close that gap as tight as I can.

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