Subj : Re: New to this To : poindexter FORTRAN From : hollowone Date : Mon Jun 02 2025 11:39 am pF> Yes, and no. 2 tech people making $5K/month would be just fine and have pF> a life with lots of dining out, or day care for a kid. The problem is pF> that the market adjusts, and the plumber, parking lot attendant, and pF> artist can't afford to live in the city any more. So, a vibrant city pF> full of artisans, craftsmen, trades, waiters and baristas with pF> multi-generational families becomes a tech haven. San Francisco even has pF> a tech cabal who want to re-write the city to fit their idea of a tech pF> utopia. It was just fine before they arrived. --- SBBSecho 3.23-Win32 Well, I see. The way it works in my town is that with high-waged folks prices went up... including plumbing and whatever so everybody can afford his minimum.. I assumed this is how capitalism works. I'd love pay half of the price for some of the fixes or learn how to do it myself. Even if I do... I don't have time for that as my hour needs to be well spent to maximize profit and then free time. So I actually am OK to pay twice what I was used to couple of years ago for home services, assuming this keeps the folks in available.. I also tho have services offered by people who live 150miles away and who work in the city, then come back home in the evenings and calculate all that in. Price is no better.. it's not about price... it's about availability of certain skills locally. Art and craft is a different story. But I also think a lot of that moved to the internet eventually and for good art or craft I am able to drive and fly far. That's also OK. I'd miss pubs and restaurants but with my age and family orientated lifestyle I don't care that much anymore. I like my backyard and deck and swimming pool and you name it.. and also nature so for that sake I actually moved out from big city. More to find silence than to afford better. Many also do that if remote working is an option. Then going to store to have a few crates of beer, meat and whatever supplies and then back home and spending time with friends in the backyard became a thing. Considering all that.. things eveolve.. big cities gather certain folk, then they go.. services also evolve... plumber is always needed but I'd say it's OK he charges twice to keep up with bills of bunch of lame tekkies perfect at typing but not being able to hold a screwdriver to fix simple fix.. especially if these lame tekkies have deeper pockets. -h1 .... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64) * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150) .