Subj : Re: New to this
To   : boraxman
From : Gamgee
Date : Mon Apr 21 2025 08:06 pm

-=> boraxman wrote to StormTrooper <=-

 St> One of the problems is, where we went from having an undersupply of
 St> grads and the education itself was the hurdle, there were plenty of
 St> positions to go round.  Now here at least, we had about 30 years of
 St> feed everyone you can into that education mill, just having the degree
 St> or whatever it might be is no longer enough on its own.  You're back to
 St> it being an absolute minimum and experience with the work and a work
 St> environment have become more imortant in thinning the applicants out.

 bo> Technically, you need a science degree to do my job, but I reckon 95%
 bo> of it can be done without one, and the other 5% you could muddle
 bo> through without it or just research on the go.  I definately don't need
 bo> the entire degree to do this.

 bo> Same with programming, I learned it myself, and see people with degrees
 bo> who struggle to do what I taught myself.  Degrees are overrated.

No doubt that *sometimes* degrees are very overrated.  But there are 
some jobs that you CANNOT do the required work without that degree (and 
even advanced degrees), because you simply would not understand the job.  
Those kind of jobs can't be faked.  I'm talking about things like 
nuclear work, physics, chemistry, some medical work, and more.  You 
can't learn some things "on the fly" or with OJT.  Another example of 
when a degree is required is when the employer won't even consider you 
unless you have that "credential", regardless of actual knowledge or 
experience.

In the end, I think it's self-regulating.  People with useless degrees 
end up in jobs that don't require a degree.  People with no degree 
sometimes hit the right combination and make it big.  People with 
"trades" skills often make much more money than many "degreed" jobs.



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