Subj : Re: New to this To : Nightfox From : Arelor Date : Mon Apr 21 2025 03:59 am Re: Re: New to this By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sun Apr 20 2025 12:40 pm > Ar> Seriously, people end up getting a Mechanical Engineering degree and > Ar> end up serving drinks at a bar, or recycle themselves into becoming > Ar> salesmen. > > But is that because there really are too many degreed workers (too much > supply)? I don't know for sure because I haven't actually asked my friends about this particular, but some insights I have gotten: When I came fresh out of college I quickly found out that a junior level Mechanical Engineering vacancy would get 300 candidates within the hour, for so-so conditions, in no-name companies. There is also the problem that there aren't entry level jobs anymore. If you dive into the job pool trying to fish for the most accessible position you will find nearly everything requires 2-3 years of experience and mastery with some tool specific to the field. On the other hand, you can't blame companies for not offering entry grade jobs, because entry grade workers offer very low value for the most part. *I* could hire one after talking to him and verifying for myself what kind of person he is. With modern recruitment systems that pool hundreds of CVs together and get people discarded automatically before they get to talk to anybody, discerning grain from chaf becomes hard, so I guess higher-ups just skip newcomers entirely because it is easier. This is not to mean Engineers are not getting jobs, and in fact I know many Engineers getting Engineering jobs, but my observation is we are a dime a dozen. Frankly, the whole get-a-job process is so fucked up these days that people should just skip it altogether and set up their own shop. -- gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken --- SBBSecho 3.24-Linux * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (21:2/138) .