Subj : HPT
To   : deon
From : Oli
Date : Sun Jul 24 2022 07:56 pm

deon wrote (2022-07-23):

 d>    Re: HPT
 d>    By: Oli to deon on Sat Jul 23 2022 08:25 am

 d>>> The number at the end (21 and 1337) is *not* the zone number for
 d>>> the domain, it is the zone number that this "outbound"
 d>>> represents.

 >> Are your sure? If I create a poll for 21:3/100 binkd uses the zone
 >> number to figure out the domain.

 d> Yes.

 d> If you have:

 >>>>   domain fsxnet /home/bbs/ftn/outbound 21

 d> Binkd knows to find any outbound files in /home/bbs/ftn/outbound for that
 d> zone, named 00030064.*

 d> If you were sending to 22:3/100, then binkd would look in
 d> /home/bbs/ftn/outbound.016 named 00030064.*

 d> It actually makes sense to me why it was implemented this way, but it
 d> isnt an obvious conclusion for the newby.

If binkd is configured for 4D, which means using the wrong zone number for all other domains, you might be right. In proper 5D setup it also defines the default domain for the zone number. Not only for files in the outbound, but also for addresses in the config files (address, node keyword).

Let's say I have

domain fidonet /ftn/fidonet 2
domain dognet  /ftn/dognet 6
domain fleanet /ftn/fleanet 6

address 2:...
address 6:100/200
node 6:100/232 ...
node 6:50/40@fleanet ...

binkd appends @dognet to all adresses that don't have a domain and start with the zone number "6:".

"binkd -P 6:100/232" polls node 6:100/232@dognet and send the aka 6:100/200@dognet.
"binkd -P 6:50/40" creates a poll for 6:50/40@dognet, but there would be no node to poll.
"binkd -P 6:50/40@fleanet" polls 6:50/40@fleanet, but there is no AKA defined for the network.


Yes. it is not wrong that

the number at the end
 - is *not* (necessarily) the zone number for the domain
 - it is the zone number that the outbound (without extension) represents

but

 - every zone number has also a default domain. Which is kind of the zone number for the domain in 5D, but not exactly.

binkd somehow uses the domain in the configured AKAs too, to figure out the domain part. I don't know what has precedence over what. It's indeed a bit unintuitive.

Btw, if you want to use standard conform 5D BSO, you also have to use the wrong zone number workaround. Something like:

domain fidonet /ftn/fidonet 2
domain fsxnet  /ftn/fsxnet  2

or

domain fidonet /ftn/fidonet 2
domain fsxnet  /ftn/fsxnet  65535

(binkd allows even bigger zone numbers than 2¹⁶ in the config)



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