Subj : Re: Where is everybody? To : Alonzo From : tenser Date : Mon Jul 03 2023 05:50 am On 24 Jun 2023 at 09:13p, Alonzo pondered and said... Al> We can introduce people to bulletin boards by volunteering to give talks Al> at our local libraries or schools. Neighborhood community meetings. But for what purpose would those people use a BBS? For many folks, it would be strictly a step down from using web-based services (I'm thinking about, say, senior citizens one might encounter at a library or community center). Similarly with school-age students: what would they use a BBS for? They're just not as capable as other offerings in the "digital native" landscape. Don't get me wrong: I'm not trying to discourage you or BBS use, but I think one would have to really think through the use-cases and what about them would be interesting and attractive to make a persuasive case. Al> Everywhere. You say that if I am settting up and running a BBS for Al> callers, I am doing it for the wrong reason. Well, what IS the reason? Al> Are we just entertaining ourselves? Other Sysops? If so, that's pretty Al> sad. Honestly? At this point that's pretty much what it is. People do it for the nostalgia, and not much else. Think of it this way: easy access to the Internet killed the dialup BBS scene because the Internet gave users so much more that was interesting; BBSes just could not compete. Nothing has changed in this regard in the last 30 years, so what would entice users to "call" a BBS? Some answers might be: 1. Nostalgia 2. It appeals to some kind of niche, such as retro computing fans 3. The desire for interaction in a small community 4. Non-commercialized, DIY infrastructure (though honesty, without the Internet, none of this is viable) 5. Interest in the art scene I think, if you really want more callers, the best way forward is to hone in on one of the above (or perhaps something else I haven't thought of?) and emphasize that. This is similar to the issue with amateur radio, in my opinion: new users aren't particularly interested in HF for long-haul communications (why bother with finicky propagation and slow data modes when the Internet lets you enjoy world-wide, real-time voice and video chat for no incremental cost over what you already pay for your ISP?). Yet the powers that be complain that people don't upgrade their license and that "the bands are dead", without bothering to ask whether anyone wants the expanded privileges of an upgraded license in the first place? --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .