Subj : This echo To : Michiel van der Vlist From : August Abolins Date : Sun Jan 16 2022 06:34 pm Hello Michiel van der Vlist! ** On Sunday 16.01.22 - 23:14, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to August Abolins: M> Or maybe it doesn't translate well into YOUR native M> language? Neither of us is a native English speaker, M> but I have lived and worked in an English speaking M> country. I was born in an english speaking country. The foreign language was primilarily only within the home. That's probably a salient difference between you and I. M> Sean claimed that he had received a netmail from Janis. The M> burden of proof for that claim is on him. First you snub my use of the term plaintiff because this matter is not in court of law, yet you use "burden of proof" where that term is use quite normally in court. Ah.. have I stumbled into the Court of MvdV? :/ AA>> The proof in the legit hand-over is in the successful AA>> elisting. Sean wouldn't be able to do that unless Janis AA>> provided the password. ;) M> Sorry, the history of Fidonet has many examples of faul M> play. That he managed to get a password for an e-list means M> nothing to me. E-lists are not recognised as authoritive in M> these matters in most parts of Fidonet anyway. Perhaps this exchange belongs in CONSPRCY echo. :/ The nature of Fidonet echomail is that echos can be added at will, and participating systems can choose to link up or not. A certain amount of cooperation and understanding is ingrained in the process. What difference does it make how a transition took place and handed to another person who is willing to nurture it? Besides, Sean was the original creator of the echo (and newsletter) too. It seems appopriate for Sean to carry its torch irregardless what other people fantasize has happend. You have the ability to conduct your own investigation too. A simple google search has provided several possibilities to try. -- ../|ug --- OpenXP 5.0.51 * Origin: (2:221/1.58) .