Subj : Re: Proposal to Keep WinXP Support "Alive" To : All From : G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 07:14 pm Path: eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!fee der.eternal-september.org!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!bo rder1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp ..brightview.co.uk!news.brightview.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 06:10:50 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:10:31 +0000 From: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" Reply-To: G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: alt.windows-xp,alt.os.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment,mi crosoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: Proposal to Keep WinXP Support "Alive" References: <669769ce-c1a1-4f17-90f0-68768fc8dab6@f4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Organization: 255 software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M () Lines: 58 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-wyA4/RRllxr3wGw8ds4fAZk8paRC+vOvOhez3pPvLcrof11NqhnII440sHsNydPoXEP4jmmeDJ3 Zche!098k1ExVeFwEms5IHw5GZO5cjQhV13yqP7AaizneRbA6Zek7EoSMC8lkcFqkITC+ld312g8BDF Yl!5ojchI7j X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4316 Xref: mx04.eternal-september.org alt.windows-xp:4002 alt.os.windows-xp:5409 microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment:2459 microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:30877 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:106097 In message , knuttle writes: >On 12/22/2012 10:17 AM, Char Jackson wrote: >> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:54:56 -0500, knuttle >> wrote: >> >>> I am not against new things in the operating system. In fact I was using >>> OS/2 when most people were extolling the virtue of the first version of >>> Windows. Why because it was far superior to Windows. In your opinion. (Which Windows are you talking about - 3.1 [or even earlier], or the '9x series [95/98/Me]?) >>> >>> I gladly upgraded to XP as it was based on part of the code that made >>> OS/2 far superior and stable. So you accepted the new when it meant it wasn't new to you (-:. >>> >>> However, why should I get excited about upgrading to a system that >>> assumes I am using a touch screen on my computer? >> >> That explains a lot about your attitude. You seem to have completely >> ignored the multiple mentions of being able to avoid the modern UI and >> using a standard desktop. >> > >Blinded by your opinion, you missed the hole point of what I wrote No, he has made the point I was about to make: most (not all) of the W8 knockers do seem to be people whose hatred of the new interface has blinded them to the fact that you can turn it off. The W8 designers wanted to introduce a new way of working: it might appear to be designed for touch screens, though there is more to it than _just_ that. They also provided something similar to the old desktop. They had to choose _one_ of them as the default; they _do_ provide an actual button on it to change to the other one, so it isn't really difficult. Which one they chose was probably a toss-up: their choice might have been swayed by a combination of actually wanting 8 to appear different, and getting people to try the new way. (If they'd made the old one the default, the majority of both old and new users would never have tried the new one, at least for long enough to give it a fair try.) It may well be that the new way _is_ not a good one, but new things have to be tried, or we'd never get anywhere (this new way of making marks on flattened plant material - I'll stay with my clay tablets, thank you). The only way to truly evaluate it, however, would be to poll new users - people who'd never had a computer before (which must be getting hard to find now!) - along with similarly new users of, say, 7. (FWIW, I have no intention of moving from XP at the moment; however, I've played with 7 for long enough that I think I could live with it. I haven't played with 8 nearly enough.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf No, I haven't changed my mind - I'm perfectly happy with the one I have, thank you. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .