Subj : Re: WinXP Pro x86 more Framework security updates getting halted by un To : All From : glee29@spamindspring.com Date : Thu Jan 31 2019 07:14 pm Path: eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.PO STED!not-for-mail From: "glee" Newsgroups: alt.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment,microsoft.public.win dowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: WinXP Pro x86 more Framework security updates getting halted by uninstall errors! Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:53:09 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 80 Message-ID: References: <6fedde6b-1462-4434-b831-437aa62f029a@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="ccf6a07c37fd525f116978f5ad44b4b6"; logging-data="19394"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19G/jkBKjDtjd1J3Y/orcF/" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Cancel-Lock: sha1:4cj7uzlOOwa8HP4E8DqJXu7LFjs= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: mx04.eternal-september.org alt.windows-xp:3934 microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment:2412 microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support:30795 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:105690 "Greegor" wrote in message news:af9ba75b-2913-4806-a79b-a05362fd06f4@6g2000pbh.googlegroups.com... On Dec 2, 8:19 am, "glee" wrote: > >> >> > Glen wrote: >> >> >> The errors you are seeing are due to some registry information >> >> >> being >> >> >> missing, or some files that have been corrupted, from the >> >> >> original >> >> >> installation of the .NET Framework. >> >> >> >It's doing it on 2 of my working systems which DO have >> >> >clean installs and never once ran up regedit. >> >> >> Interesting.... nothing has been installed except an stock clean >> >> install >> >> of the OS? Is an anti-virus installed at the time of the .NET >> >> installation, and is it active at the time? >> >> >MSE installed and running in the order it was offered up >> >by the update site. >> >> I assume you mean the updates were offerred... Windows Update doesn't >> automatically offer MSE itself. >> >> >Update site does not say to turn off virus scanner. >> >> No, but it I always do when installing updates to .NET or Internet >> Explorer, at the least. AV's vary.... Norton has a history of >> interfering, as well as some others (ESET did for a while)... other >> AVs >> don't cause any trouble most of the time. >> >> >Are problem with installers looking for necessary files in >> >crazy places with long random character names a >> >common symptom caused by a virus scanner operating? >> >> That 'symptom' is usually the uninstaller looking for the original >> temporary folder that was used (or recorded as used) during the >> original >> installation. Often those folders are deleted by the installer at the >> end of the installation, or by the user during maintenance. > >That seems to be exactly what is going wrong. >How could a virus scanner like MSE possibly >cause this sort of malfunction? > >How could it cause the record of where crucial >code or overlays are, to refer to the WRONG >directory? > >I will try to test for this effect, maybe next week. > >> >It just doesn't seem like the kind of error I would >> >expect from collisions with an active virus scanner. >> >> No, probably not. It could be a defect in the installer, but if it >> was, >> one would expect to see the issue everywhere, and it is actually not >> that common. > > snip I didn't state that an A-V, in your case MSE, would necessarily cause it. As I stated in my reply, it could be a defect in the installer, though one would then expect to see the issue everywhere, and it isn't that common. That said, if an A-V is interfering with an installation, corruption of the installation could occur in a number of places.... files not copied, or corrupted Registry entries, and so forth. ...NET updates have long been a problem, searching for the myriad causes of the problems isn't worth the time to me.... it just seems to fragile for prime time. I look for alternate software that doesn't use .NET wherever possible. Vista, Win7 and 8 all have some versions built in now. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.1 * Origin: Prison Board BBS Mesquite Tx //telnet.RDFIG.NET www. (1:124/5013) .