Subj : Re: Republicans Suck To : All From : anthk Date : Thu Apr 17 2025 06:27 am On 2011-11-29, Bubbaboy wrote: > > -=> Zgillis wrote to All <=- > > Zg> Republicans are destroying America! > > Nice comment. I use to think that this was the case, but I do not > think that we can blame any one party. We cannot even lay blame > on the last few presidents. However, I do think that the last few > presidents (President Obama, President Bush, President Clinton, > President Bush, and President Reagan) did accelerate our current > problems. > > The country's problems have been building since the contry was born. > All of our elected officials past and present are to blame for our > country's current problems. What we need now is for the internal > bickering to stop and for some plans to be proposed, studied, and > acted on before it is too late. (Though, I do concede that it could > already be too late, but we still need to try--correct?) Our > officials need to STOP this party line business and just work for a > common goal. The goal: SOLVING THIS MESS WE ARE IN!!! > > When I was younger, I was a moderate-to-conservative religious > right type. Then, as I started listening to a friend from high > school, he made me think about my positions more. I use to be a > hard party-liner. Now, I hope that when I do go to the polls (well > fill out and send in my absentee vote) I am voting on things or > candidates that have a similar view of the world. Hence, I am > a registered Independent. > > Unfortunately, I admit that my eyes are clouded by my early opinions. > I now think that many of my early opinions were not thought out very > well. Where I thought I was voting for the "lesser of two evils" in > the case where I was younger I usually sided with the Republican > candidate and blindly followed their ideals now it seens I am swinging > in the Moderate-Democrat to Liberal-Democrat area. Unfortunately, from > my perspective, the "lesser of two evils" has usually been the > Democrat candidate. In a few years, that could change. > > However, I think that it has always boiled down to who we think, from > our personal perspective, is the "lesser of two evils". Let's face it > both of our major parties have abandonded the common citizen. Again, > from my perspective, the Democrats have not abandonded the common > citizen as much as the Republicans have but only by a very small > margin. > > What really ticked me off about the Republican Party is that the party > has been perceived to be aligned with the "religious right". Now, from > what I remember the religious types are supposed to be understanding > and want to help their fellow man, but this is not what I see. I see > rich people scratching other rich people's backs. I see this from both > sides. > > BUT, let's face it, our current financial crisis was created by WALL > STREET. Speculation is what brought down our system. Insuring > speculation (example, A.I.G.) is what brought down everything. Not > knowing what was being insured was the problem. (Please point me to > some solid documentation that this was not the case. Remember this is > my perspective.) > > The "War on Terror", while starting before the financial crisis, I > cannot help to think that the terrorists that hate our capitalizm > are turning out to be correct. A lot of our problems are economic. > Have the terrorists won? From my perspective all of the in-fighting > is leading me to believe that they have won. I wish that all of our > politicians would realize this and start working together to find a > solution to our financial crisis. > > I wish that regulators would do their jobs. I wish that they could > find the time and energy to investigate claims. I wish another Madoff > would not occur again. To the investors of Madoff, how could you > believe his crap. In my opinion, the investors of Madoff should not > be bailed out, and I hope they are not going to be. They chose to > invest with him. If they do get a bail out, then the small investor > (such as myself--401k, IRA, and mutual fund) should also have thier > investiments insured. I cannot believe it--Madoff's scam was so > obvious. How could the regulators NOT do anything? > > * Note: I have no full proof of what I have stated above. I guess the > above are just ramblings. Ramblings from a most-of-the-time observer. > And, lets face it, it's all about PERCEPTION. I am just rambling about > what I have perceived, but I hope it'll get you (the reader) thinking > and realize that our current problems are a sum of all that has > happened in the past. > > ** NOTE: This second note is hopefully coherent. While our current > problems cannot be fully attributed to our current financial problems; > it should be noted that it is unwise to think that he would have been > able to fix all of the problems in his first term. (I do not know if > he will get a second term, but whoever our next president is we need > to give him options. Solid options. Unbiased Options. Options that > give this country as a whole a fighthing chance.) > > *** I also admit that my perspective could be wrong. Please don't flame me > about being wrong, but please gently guide me to re-evaluate any > incorrect conclusions. > > Thank you for reading, hope it was coherent, and somewhat thought provoking. > > > ... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message. > --- MultiMail/DOS v0.49 >I see rich people scratching other rich people's backs. As an European, we knew that since millenia. The far left (Stalinists) did the same as far right, but saying similar bullshit. Power and money corrupts, that's it. Christians at first were the almost the first socialists in the Western World. When they got the power, they became the same the leftists did with Stalin. In the end, there weren't many differencies between the late Francoist Spain (National-Catholic) and the Breznev Russia. There are very few 'middle grounded' enlightened humans. Kinda like Deng Xiaping in China, who tried to put some balance between extremes by opening China to the free market. But then, you are at risk; you will be bashed from both sides. Why? Bear in mind nationalist, classical liberalism and communist ideologies were born at the German Romanticist times. The Liberal Arts people (it doesn't matter it it's left or right biased) put emotions first; science and facts, that's heresy, man. The US needs something like that, but not a dictatorship. Just some honest politician with 'common sense' politics trying to do the very best for all Americans, not just for oligarchs or braindead utopias. Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker. .