Subj : WIndows 10 32 bit To : Carol Shenkenberger From : Vincent Coen Date : Sat Mar 11 2023 01:13 pm Hello Carol! Friday March 10 2023 15:50, you wrote to me: > All good points but I have 3rd party firewalls and a cisco router. > It's a non-issue for me. Suspect it is for Andre as well. Agreed but not everyone has invested in their own router at least in the UK a very high percentage use the ISP supplied one value 10 pounds / dollars on a good day with facilities to match and the firewalls are basic. For example the last two I recall had no facilities for for port forwarding and the like and as for understanding red, green DMZ's etc a total no-no. Like wise no support for updating firmware - now I do have to admit that Asus does not update theirs too often but a few time per year is ok with me bearing in mind the changelogs are light on major issues. I suspect the other major brands are similar. None of the one's I have used at least over the last 10++ or so years have been managed to my knowledge there again the cost has been under 200 which is plenty enough :(. I dread to think how many old one's are sitting boxed up in my loft / roof space and no that does not include the freebies but have to admit I use one from the cable company (Virgin Media) but only as a modem (because it has a telephone connector and yes I should consider voip phone's but my main one is a mobile set of four in different parts of the house as well as one emergency one that has a sim card in for power cuts and no don't use it as I have UPS units on my main system and one for my wife's desktop for for all the other systems around the house they will just die until power is restored - 2 Raspberry Pis one of which runs the Elist system, one as a media system (records TV programs etc and if power is down can't watch the TV anyway). There are a few other system around non UPS'd and one mainframe that is which must get around to pass on to some organisation that will allow user's to use via internet and replace with a single phase version but these are very hard to find at least in the UK and Mr. wallet says has to be cheap. Vincent --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.3/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707 * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1) .