Subj : Re: D'Bridge 3.99/SR32 released and avai To : Nick Andre From : Benny Pedersen Date : Thu Jun 21 2018 02:04 am Hello Nick! 10 Jun 2018 22:26, Nick Andre wrote to Benny Pedersen: BP>> RN> You still have X, Y, Z and a host of other options. (-: BP>> opensource is nice :) NA> A wise man told me "I'm afraid now this is a knee-jerk response in a NA> way you may not like to hear". how should i know how to help with X, Y, Z ? NA> I am seriously so sick to death of what I believe is the good-majority NA> of Linux techies having this unquestionable God-like devotion to that bum NA> and absolute horror of a human being, toenail-clipping-eating Richard NA> Stallman, GNU, "Free-is-best and commercial-software-be-damned" NA> mentality. we have fun always, i know you know how to compile things on windows, no intented jokes about it, if ever i need to downgrade to dos programs it would be on 16bit dos level so my amiga 500 can run it on the pc286 card i have in it :) nothing new is since happend on intel cpus that i need, i just begin have good time on my old days with all the updates world have created since then, eg raspberry pi any model NA> For years as a Fido developer I have had the pleasure of receiving NA> Echomail, Netmail and Internet email about why D'Bridge is not open source. And NA> when I state my logical reasons why, most of the time I am looked upon as an NA> idiot because I don't publish source code like Mystic, HPT and Synchronet. be polite now to write idiot, it will go back some times NA> All three of those programs are very nice, but have had the exact same NA> problems as closed-source mailers, tossers, BBS software etc. If the NA> code is open source, shouldn't there be such a huge crowd of people working to NA> fix it? its just harder for bug reporters to show where X, Y, Z is in precompild problems, why not disclose it, to make more intrested in helping make it work better ?, thats how i see it, you dont want to shoot your self in foots if i know you well ? NA> For every Linux techie that told me over the years that open-source is NA> more trustworthy and secure and Windows is garbage... I ask them if they NA> have personally studied and reviewed the Linux kernal source. Nope. Have NA> they studied the code for Firefox? Nope. What about the code for all of NA> your the device drivers? Cue to the crickets chirping. So you have "to trust NA> it". opensource is not a garenti for people do something in return, but if not opensource its not possible to try atleast NA> Now I'm aware of the Windows-10 situation, telemetry, all of that... NA> no I don't like it and no I do not run Windows 10. i dont like windows defender trying to reset my chrome settings, do thay know ing what thay do there ?, chrome apps running on windows browser is in sync with google, and thus same plugins go to chromebooks, so basicly windows defender removes or disable chromebook apps, how fucking silly can microsoft be there ? sorry for saying idiots now NA> But if Windows is such crap, how come its been many years now and NA> Linux still is not Desktop ready? try slackware ?, try see how stable kde is there ? NA> Why is the focus on adding useless hated things NA> like SystemD, Selinux and Gnome 3? +1 NA> If Microsoft is such a big bad evil corporation, does that mean that NA> Apple, Google, Facebook and other open-source fanatical companies get a free NA> pass? thay have one thing in common, thay all sooks NA> I notice Linux techies seem to give their OS a free pass... NA> CONSTANTLY. maybe its too free ? NA> Even with serious bugs and vulnerabilities like SSL, Heartbleed, the NA> freaking "beep" command insecurity... to say nothing about buggy device NA> drivers. i can disable this in my kernel if unwanted, but for now i just use default debian preconfigured .config to build a gentoo kernel on linode.com, its still unoptimized i know, but i can reduce load time with it, and provide it to linode.com to make it even better for other gentoo (loosers) to use :) NA> Sorry Benny, I know you post in good fun, atleast you understand me then NA> and I know I'm fair game but every NA> time I see another yay-for-open-source post its just... cringeworthy. did yuo mean some other words ? >>Canadiens<< :) Regards Benny .... there can only be one way of life, and it works :) --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.2-gentoo (x86_64)) * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0) .