Subj : Re: I watched the 'talk' To : Rob Mccart From : Dr. What Date : Sat Apr 05 2025 10:19 am -=> Rob Mccart wrote to GRANT WEASNER <=- RM> There are some things about that, like solar panels and wind generators RM> are not nearly as efficient as they claim they are. My sister bought RM> a bunch of solar panels and they don't make near the power claimed, not RM> near enough to handle all their needs and they paid $80,000 for them. I see this a lot. And here in Michigan, it's even worse since it's overcast much of the time **and** if you don't brush the snow off them, they produce nothing. RM> A lot of countries built huge numbers of wind turbines and are now RM> just waiting for them to wear out so they can get rid of them. RM> One area mentioned installing enough to supply 25% of their power RM> but found, in reality, they only got about 6% out of them. My previous company got some sort of grant to put small wind turbines on the roof of their headquarters. We were in the building accross the street so we could see them and they were almost never spinning. RM> Nuclear is highly efficient but has very expensive waste product RM> problems and it's horrendously expensive to build plants. The newer nuclear technology doesn't have nearly as big a waste problem. And the expense is mostly due to gov't regulation (usually useless regulation). RM> genertor plant (Hydro Electricity?) in Ontario that has been in RM> service so long that they have to convert the 25 cycle power to RM> 60 cycle. We got rid of 25 cycle power in the mid 1950's. Near me, we have a special "gravity" generator that's used to "jump start" the grid. So power plants need **some** power to start. How do you power a power plant? Well, that's what this special generator is for. It's built on a bluff above Lake Michigan. It's effectively a big lake and some turbines. It generates electricity the same way a hydroelectric dam does just in a somewhat artificial way. So when the power goes out completely, and they are ready to start things up, they open the gates, let the water run down to the lake and generate the power needed to let the power plants start up. .... Epitaph on a gravestone: Cheerio, see you soon. ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52 --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64) * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/200) .