Subj : BINKP over TLS
To   : Alan Ianson
From : Alexey Fayans
Date : Fri Dec 20 2019 12:25 am

Hello Alan!

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 17:12 -0800, you wrote to me:

 AI> I don't think STARTTLS is what we want today.

Why?

 AI> In the early going of TLS it was probably the only way forward since
 AI> there were many destinations that did not support TLS, that is not the
 AI> case today. I don't read of anyone adopting STARTTLS today, only
 AI> depricating it.

I only see a proposal to deprecate STARTTLS _implementation_ in SMTP and other 
e-mail protocols because obviously implementation has flaws. If implemented 
properly, I don't see any reason for deprecation.

 AI> If binkps over TLS was implemented today I think implicit TLS is the
 AI> way to do it.

I don't agree. If it will be implemented this way, I can bet it will be adopted 
by less than 1% of systems.

 AI> We need a binkps listener on port 24553 (or the post you
 AI> intend to use) and a way to start a poll to such a listener.

And for that we will need a lot of software updated on a lot of systems. Which 
will most probably never happen.

 AI> I would be willing to test TLS with you if you like, even using
 AI> STARTTLS. If we got some testing under our belt we could discover what
 AI> works and what doesn't and be in a better position to give feedback to
 AI> the binkd developer(s).

I am not a true coder, at least, I don't have enough skill/time to implement 
any kind of TLS support in binkd. If someone will do it, I'll be happy to test.


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