Subj : Re: Polling - Still not a solution To : rick christian From : Nicholas Boel Date : Sun Oct 23 2016 09:44 am Hello rick, On 23 Oct 16 09:29, rick christian wrote to Nicholas Boel: NB>> When compiling software on Linux, they are ASS U ME'ing you have NB>> the slightest idea on what you're actually doing with Linux NB>> (otherwise if there is a precompiled binary available, at least NB>> they choose to offer rc> That view point of Linux that you outline as some elitist OS, has rc> passed. It's not an elitist OS, and I'm not outlining it as such. If you don't know how to compile, then install via a package manager or try to find a binary package. Plain and simple. This, however, will not guarantee you a specific version that you're looking for, either. rc> And I've worked on all sorts of things from 68HC11 to big iron to PC's rc> and very little of that over that span has involved compiling. rc> I've been on Linux for over 20 years, and still the amount of rc> compiling I've done is minuscule, by choice and by the point it rarely rc> works. I'm not sure what you've been working with, but just about everything on my BBS/server machine has been compiled from source, and it "worked" every time. I'm only pointing out your own attitude towards the situation, and your own choice not to go that route. While you talk it down and make sure everyone hears you, not many other people here seem to have the same problems that you do. Heck, we're even here trying to HELP you compile it, but since the README doesn't have ***EXACT*** instructions for you to follow, you have given it up completely and continue to talk it down as impossible. rc> Right now most of what I do personally is python rc> Yes, I use Linux mainly because it is free! I don't give one hoot rc> about the source code, I couldn't care less. If there is an issue I rc> will file a bug report, the author will do their part fix it, release rc> new program. Rinse, repeat. What does any of this have to do with compiling binkd or the husky project's sources? NB>> If you don't like it that much.. there's alternatives (like NB>> Windows) you rc> There is the Linux Spirit! Don't like it leave! That ain't happening! rc> I refuse to use windumber. I'm not sure why you're referring to it as the "Linux Spirit" whatsoever. That "spirit" refers to anything you're going to sit online and cry about. If you don't like it, don't use it. As I said in my previous message, during this time of all these negative comments towards compiling software that you've typed out repeatedly, you could have figured out how to compile all this software with all the help that has already been provided for you (which you chose not to read or use because you were too busy telling us how much you hated it). rc> A computer is a tool to achieve a goal. Not the goal to get it be able rc> to do the task. I don't work wise or personally have time to devote to rc> incomplete instructions to compile stuff. And I am not polluting rc> systems with 1000's of libs just in case I might some day compile rc> something that needs it. There is no need for 1000's of libs to do anything. Now you're exaggerating to try to prove a point you're never going to get across. rc> I've run into and put up with just the attitude you post in Linux rc> areas for decades. Let me reiterate that your view as compiling as rc> some litmus test precursor to the use of Linux is passe. Double edged sword. Linux areas have put up with your talking negatively about something as effortless as compiling software. People compile software on every OS. It is nothing new to the world, and you either do it or you don't. But you're going WAY out of your way to talk it down and if you notice, you're basically on your own on this (ie: No one seems to agree with you). Probably better to just move on, rather than continue your rants. rc> I do alot of things for work that probably are not up your alley be it rc> SQL be it php be it python be it sync'ng tx sites for a simulcast P25 rc> TRS over 4 counties. Or why does one radio work and another is just rc> garbled in the same spot!??? rc> I've had plenty of DBA's take a look at various SQL stuff and have no rc> clue what it does. So each has their skills... rc> I am not afraid to admit, that C is not in my wheelhouse, and I have rc> no interest in learning it! Period. Nor is compiling. Again, I do not see what this has to do with compiling binkd or husky's sources. rc> If you list COMPLETE FULL INSTRUCTIONS, then I have no problem. I've rc> seen that once. The rest just like you feel that I should do all the rc> heavy lifting to figure out how to install stuff. Here's the source, rc> you figure it out! Perfection is not always achievable. Even in your own personal cases. Sorry to burst your bubble. rc> Ok.. heres your radio... you figure it out! Theres about 30 buttons on rc> them, plus lets see the profiles have 200+ talkgroups on them, and not rc> all of them are monitored by anyone 24/7/365, and may not be active in rc> your area. Oh, and some are simplex mutal aid stuff.. But hey, heres rc> the radio YOU FIGURE IT OUT! Your life just may depend on it! If that were the case (and it usually isn't), someone with enough ambition would and could indeed figure it out. Trial and error is a method used in every aspect of life. Regards, Nick .... "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.'" --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160827 * Origin: thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/10) .