Subj : New binkd setup Linux-Kubuntu 14.04 64b To : rick christian From : Alan Ianson Date : Sun Sep 18 2016 02:01 pm Sunday September 18 2016 07:04, you wrote to me: rc> This has been, still, and will continue to be Linux's DOWNFALL and rc> GREATEST IMPEDIMENT, software distribution... Software distribution is one of (at least linux) the strengths. On rare occations I find that I need to build my own binaries, like binkd. It is not part of my distribution so I always go grab the version I want and get it done. rc> I love Linux! Don't get me wrong... there are portions of the rc> "culture" I despise even more than that of the crap from msloth rc> land...but this is getting way tangetial.... Different distributions have different ways of doing things as far as packages go. On the debian type distros the version that is released doesn't change unless there is a very good reason to do that. Even then the needed changes are quite often back ported. AI>> zlib-dev and bzip2-dev installed to build support to compress AI>> pkts on the fly. rc> This is always the issue with compiling... finding this stuff... when rc> its not listed outright.. Binkd will still compile without bzip2-dev available but without some features. I think it's good to have so I just wanted to point that one out to you. Some things like bzip2-dev are not installed by default because most folks don't use it. On my slackware box all this stuff I need to compile things is installed already, I seldom need to go looking for dependencies. That's probably because on slackware you are going to need it.. ;) AI>> It might be enough to add yourself to the ftn group to have AI>> read/write permission to the outbound/inbound. rc> That could be, and I thought about going that route as well... I just rc> decided to move binkd to ME! (Always about ME! :) ;) ) and be done rc> with it.... rc> I get where this whole ftn:ftn thing is headed, but in the REAL WORLD rc> I am not so sure that plan works... It does work, I have done it before. I prefer to build my own and run binkd as my regular user. You can still do that with a packaged binkd but I just build my own. rc> Thanks for the info...as when I was at the binkd site it didn't rc> outline this, and my main machines are not setup for git/cvs/svn... I rc> can spin up some VM's in VMWare and play with it... IIRC cvs is installed as part of build-essential. It's a good way to keep upto date but you can also download a tarball (or zip) from the bink site, either way is good. rc> But honestly the few times I've been successful with compiling has rc> only been when there have been exact detailed steps aka Compiling for rc> Absolute Total Moronic Idiots! (I don't program in compiled rc> languages, Python, BASH, php, html, SQL, ECMAScript, pascal back in rc> the day) Don't feel bad. I don't code either. Not at all. If I can download a tarball I can usually get the job done.. as long as someone else has done the coding.. ;) rc> sudo apt-get install stupidlib stupidlib-dev anotherlib anotherlib-dev Those -dev packages are what we need when compiling software. It's very handy though we just need them installed to satisfy dependencies. rc> And don't even get me stated on RPM's and RH/CentOS! :) URRRGHH! The first distribution I used was redhat many years ago. I understand.. :) rc> Thanks again for the pointes and tips, and info, assistance... when I rc> get a lab day to try this I will spin up a VM to give a whirl, maybe I rc> can make a DEB for 14.04 ... I can make a slackware package, or a package for archlinux, it's fairly straight forward. Maybe one day I can do debian packages too but not today. .... I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure. --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20160322 * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757) .