Subj : LSPPPDlr 2003 To : MICHEL SAMSON From : MATT GILBERT Date : Mon Dec 06 2004 10:46 pm Michel, can you repaste those links here so the next time I come back I can grab them? I'm actually on my slackware linux box at the CLI prompt and telnetting into the fidotel bbs to read/reply to my messages right now, and I'm kind of a linux newbie still.... I think I manage to 'capture' the URL by holding down the shift key and left mouse button, but I'm not sure how / where I can paste it to grab it later... maybe an editor like PICO ??? Argh, these learning curves are something else for me ;/ best Matt -> Hi Matt, -> About "LSPPPDlr 2003" of December 5: -> MG> Tell me more about your 'commo' program... -> MS> ...`{Commo}' ISN'T FROM ME... -> MG> ...I ask a little tolerance and leeway... -> Granted. I've been the moving target of others so often these late -> years i regularily feel the need for this myself! %-) Most of the guys -> who address me usually sound like they've been "prepared" so i can't but -> welcome you... 8-) Anyway, i believe the thread can be read from here: -> http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/dos_internet -> http://www.fidonet.m.nu/echomail/area/DOS_INTERNET/LIST=1 -> MG> ...the next thing I know I've got people jumping all over me for -> MG> saying the wrong thing in the wrong post at the wrong time... -> That feels familiar enough for me who has been posting on `FidoNet' -> for some time, which is why i refrained from warning you against using a -> `BBBS', `WildCat!' or similar pre-1985 3rd-party `Kermit' implementation -> when i read you about "Kermit for DOS" being "painfully slow": having a -> chance to correspond with DOS LEGACY BBSers like myself is so unique the -> warning could wait my next post i thought! It's refreshing reading you. -> 8,-b -> MG> ...if there is something that I, or someone else doesn't know, -> MG> should we be afraid to ask a question? -> If my reply makes you uncomfortable there's something wrong, either -> you never heard of me or what you know is somewhat biased... `LSPPPDlr' -> wouldn't still be On-Line today if i didn't really want to save you from -> the frustration; ask me questions and i'll answer as honestly as i can. -> MG> ...trying to figure out a way to dial up my ISP using a DOS ppp -> MG> connection and telnetting into a BBS and being able to go to the -> MG> files area and download using zmodem is something I've been -> MG> intrigued about for a long time. I really have to struggle... -> An image is worth a thousand words. You'll find that your transfer -> rates depend on the ~ISP~, the HardWare/SoftWare and the BBS being used; -> i've been lucky with all my ~ISP~s since none of them disabled a packet- -> driver by doing validation via ~MS-CHAP~ exclusively (it isn't supported -> by `EPPPD'/`LSPPP'), for example... as for the file transfer protocols, -> their availability and suitability will depend on your HardWare/SoftWare -> in combination with the remote host implementations. `{Commo}'/`ZMoDem' -> seems OKay on my P-200 Mhz MMX but it doesn't "degrade" as gracefully as -> `Kermit' on more modest systems (unless `BBBS-Kermit'/`WC-Kermit' is the -> only alternative to it)... I have 8088 PCs and later, let me know about -> your setup and i'll try to tell you what .ZIP cps rate you can dream of. -> ;^) -> MG> ...I'll take a look at what you've got. I'm actually using -> MG> BANANACOM right now, dialed into the last remaining BBS here... -> I don't recall re-evaluating `BananaCom' in this century, i do know -> i didn't retain it as a candidate when i searched for terminal emulators -> with the features required for an external ~PPP~ packet-driver dialer in -> any case - which was long before i switched to "Plan-B" (~TelNet~ only). -> Luckily, *IF* `BananaCom' supports ~FOSSIL~ interfacing, you should -> be able to use your favourite SoftWare without much help from `{Commo}'s -> `LSPPPDlr' macro: simply generate some `SetPPP.BAT' + `LogIn.BAT' setup -> thru `{Commo}'s Wizard then switch to `COMTool'. I must testify that my -> 8088s made an unforgiving test-bench and that `{Commo}' sure passed this -> test, though... Who would start from the ground up anyway? I wouldn't! -> I mention ~FOSSIL~ because i don't expect to hear about `BananaCom' -> supporting ~TelNet~ internally. Is v4 still the last realease there is? -> Salutations, ;-) -> Michel Samson -> a/s Bicephale -> http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/ -> ... DOS+TCP/IP+TelNet+ZMoDem/Kermit+.QWK technologies on 8088s or higher -> -!- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.45 - It could make TelNet OLMR BBSing UNIVERSAL! -> --- Mail-ennium/32 v2.0-beta-r1 -> * Origin: Mail-ennium/32 v2 Beta Coming Soon! (1:379/1200.0) --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5a * Origin: FidoTel & QWK on the Web! www.fidotel.com (1:275/311) .