Subj : LSPPPDlr 2003 To : MATT GILBERT From : MICHEL SAMSON Date : Mon Dec 06 2004 08:30 am Hi Matt, About "LSPPPDlr 2003" of December 5: MG> Tell me more about your 'commo' program... MS> ...`{Commo}' ISN'T FROM ME... MG> ...I ask a little tolerance and leeway... Granted. I've been the moving target of others so often these late years i regularily feel the need for this myself! %-) Most of the guys who address me usually sound like they've been "prepared" so i can't but welcome you... 8-) Anyway, i believe the thread can be read from here: http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/dos_internet http://www.fidonet.m.nu/echomail/area/DOS_INTERNET/LIST=1 MG> ...the next thing I know I've got people jumping all over me for MG> saying the wrong thing in the wrong post at the wrong time... That feels familiar enough for me who has been posting on `FidoNet' for some time, which is why i refrained from warning you against using a `BBBS', `WildCat!' or similar pre-1985 3rd-party `Kermit' implementation when i read you about "Kermit for DOS" being "painfully slow": having a chance to correspond with DOS LEGACY BBSers like myself is so unique the warning could wait my next post i thought! It's refreshing reading you. 8,-b MG> ...if there is something that I, or someone else doesn't know, MG> should we be afraid to ask a question? If my reply makes you uncomfortable there's something wrong, either you never heard of me or what you know is somewhat biased... `LSPPPDlr' wouldn't still be On-Line today if i didn't really want to save you from the frustration; ask me questions and i'll answer as honestly as i can. MG> ...trying to figure out a way to dial up my ISP using a DOS ppp MG> connection and telnetting into a BBS and being able to go to the MG> files area and download using zmodem is something I've been MG> intrigued about for a long time. I really have to struggle... An image is worth a thousand words. You'll find that your transfer rates depend on the ~ISP~, the HardWare/SoftWare and the BBS being used; i've been lucky with all my ~ISP~s since none of them disabled a packet- driver by doing validation via ~MS-CHAP~ exclusively (it isn't supported by `EPPPD'/`LSPPP'), for example... as for the file transfer protocols, their availability and suitability will depend on your HardWare/SoftWare in combination with the remote host implementations. `{Commo}'/`ZMoDem' seems OKay on my P-200 Mhz MMX but it doesn't "degrade" as gracefully as `Kermit' on more modest systems (unless `BBBS-Kermit'/`WC-Kermit' is the only alternative to it)... I have 8088 PCs and later, let me know about your setup and i'll try to tell you what .ZIP cps rate you can dream of. ;^) MG> ...I'll take a look at what you've got. I'm actually using MG> BANANACOM right now, dialed into the last remaining BBS here... I don't recall re-evaluating `BananaCom' in this century, i do know i didn't retain it as a candidate when i searched for terminal emulators with the features required for an external ~PPP~ packet-driver dialer in any case - which was long before i switched to "Plan-B" (~TelNet~ only). Luckily, *IF* `BananaCom' supports ~FOSSIL~ interfacing, you should be able to use your favourite SoftWare without much help from `{Commo}'s `LSPPPDlr' macro: simply generate some `SetPPP.BAT' + `LogIn.BAT' setup thru `{Commo}'s Wizard then switch to `COMTool'. I must testify that my 8088s made an unforgiving test-bench and that `{Commo}' sure passed this test, though... Who would start from the ground up anyway? I wouldn't! I mention ~FOSSIL~ because i don't expect to hear about `BananaCom' supporting ~TelNet~ internally. Is v4 still the last realease there is? Salutations, ;-) Michel Samson a/s Bicephale http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/ .... DOS+TCP/IP+TelNet+ZMoDem/Kermit+.QWK technologies on 8088s or higher -!- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.45 - It could make TelNet OLMR BBSing UNIVERSAL! --- Mail-ennium/32 v2.0-beta-r1 * Origin: Mail-ennium/32 v2 Beta Coming Soon! (1:379/1200.0) .