Subj : Re: Irex and Argue To : Alan Ianson From : Sean Dennis Date : Sun May 26 2019 12:21 pm -=> Alan Ianson wrote to Sean Dennis <=- AI> It seems quite today in the Irex realm. Charles' system may be in Fidonet but he's not. Internet Red, like Telegard, died the minute its author graduated college and started making money. However, Charles can be found if needed. Tim Strike, the author of Telegard, actively avoids his BBSing past. A few years ago, I tracked down Tim and called him at his work. As soon as I identified myself, Tim hung up on me. I have heard a bunch of bullshit excuses from both authors about not releasing their code. Charles, at least, had a good reason: the use of commercial libraries (though that code could be rewritten). Tim bleated about copyright issues and other trivial things that were, to me, an obvious attempt at pinning the blame on everyone but himself. So that's why I dropped both products. At least now, if something breaks, I can fix it. Years ago, in the IREX echo when Charles was still active, I was complaining about a lack of support. He angrily replied to me, offering to give me my registration fee back. I informed him the money was not the point. He immediately disappeared into the ether after that. I have been supporting my own programs for 21 years now without any issue but it's never been about the money for me. Charles' and Tim's actions pointed out where their loyalty lies and it's not with their users. If I were you, I'd use something else than IRex. Its BinkD and FTP server are both buggy as hell. Later, Sean --- MultiMail/Win * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200) .