Subj : fish fertility magic . To : All From : David Dalton Date : Sun May 02 2004 01:36 am This is for fish enthusiasts who may know a bit about fish symbolism in (worldwide) folklore, mythology and religion and may want to share what they know. Of course I can do web searches and library work too but it is more fun to get it storytelling wise around the global Usenet campfire too. Here's a followup I posted to nf.general,nf.arts just now . Ha if you want to try it yourself I guess you could make love while on a fishing/camping trip in a tent (or home) and dedicate your expansive orgasms to improving the fertility of a given fish species or muliple species or local subset. If you are worried about permission of your deity request your deity to gatekeeper the working so effectively it becomes a creative prayer, and such innovation is sometimes rewarded. Anyway, if nothing else this may amuse you but I am also interested in what you know of fish symbolism in (worldwide) religion, mythology and folklore so follow up here or (more likely?) to the related post on alt.mythology if you know any and/or on alt.native if it is native lore. Also come visit Newfoundland and Labrador and collect some samples. On Sat, 01 May 2004 19:32:58 -0230, David Dalton wrote: >So what are examples you know of of fish symbolism in >mythology/religion? and Newfoundland and Labrador folklore including native lore (and other folklore from around the world too) >I may try to put together a >composite poem refering to some and to the Newfoundland >fishery (and possibly global fishery too), perhaps an invocation >for it to regenerate. > >Of course the one most relevant to most Newfoundlanders is >the Christian fish one, which I would invoke among others. If some Christians say I can't, they can't say that, only the Christian God (and Jesus if different) can say that and if I attempt visualization and linkage of such symbol and it intuitively works (or better, actually results in increased fish fertility, not that we could rape the fish again then though) then I have permission. I don't always, sometimes I might try a Strawberry link for a red guitar and it doesn't work and then maybe a Partridgeberry one does, in terms of feedback effects on me and perhaps in sound though local musicians would know that more objectively than me, and if so might think I and one or more bisexual by nature women working together can bring back the fish and more, and bring about a global new age. Ha, I'm still just trying to get a date for May 4 full moon, obviously. (But I bet Jesus and Magdalene did get together, and in pagan terms there is a Great Rite and one example of that is Morgaine and Arthur getting together at Beltane [now] in Marion Zimmer Bradley's book The Mists of Avalon.) >Obviously I wouldn't invoke any with nasty connotations >but I can't think of any such right now. But that would require me >to actually write a poem or improv good lyrics rather than >just doing silent willing of something. Also it would help >if Baxter Wareham still had his ugly stick. :-) >(that he had at Expo 86). > >However I may need a bit of female help on this one. > >David >http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html (Salmon on the Thorns) > > > --- þ RIMEGate(tm)/RGXPost V1.14 at BBSWORLD * Info@bbsworld.com --- * RIMEGate(tm)V10.2áÿ* RelayNet(tm) NNTP Gateway * MoonDog BBS * RgateImp.MoonDog.BBS at 5/2/04 12:36:11 AM * Origin: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn,NY, 718 692-2498, 1:278/230 (1:278/230) .