Subj : Re: Killer
To   : Aaron Thomas
From : Dale Shipp
Date : Wed Sep 23 2020 12:37 am

 -=> On 09-22-20  14:06,  Aaron Thomas <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Killer <=-


 DS> He has denigrated the wearing of masks on many occasions.  Did you not
 DS> listen?

 AT> No, I don't take health advice from the Orange One. But if he has
 AT> anything  else to say, I'm all ears.

Good for you -- but what about all of those who do follow his advice,
explicitly or implicitly stated.  The ones who turn up at his rallies
without masks, crowding together and cheering at the top of their
voices.   That behavior is what causes spreading of the virus to others.
 
 DS> What you are ignoring with that statement is that it is not just you
 DS> taking a chance.  Such behavior puts all the people you come into
 DS> contact with at risk, some of who are in more vulnerable categories.

 AT> Vulnerable people should stay home instead of going out to a Trump
 AT> rally. Same goes with all of Biden's protesters. Biden has more
 AT> employees at these  protests than Trump has attendees at his rallies.

Really, PUSU on that.  I cannot see why any Biden supporter or employee
could even stand being at his rallies.

 AT> We have the freedom to take a chance with the coronavirus. The

 DS> What you are ignoring with that statement is that it is not just you
 DS> taking a chance.  Such behavior puts all the people you come into
 DS> contact with at risk, some of who are in more vulnerable categories.

 AT> The only way to take away our "freedom to take a chance with
 AT> coronavirus"  would be to take people to jail for not wearing masks.

It is not the only way to increase the actions of social distancing
and/or mask wearing.  If Trump had simply come out with statements
encouraging those practicing back when he admitted to Woodward how
serious the CoronaVirus was, then many people would have adopted those
practices and we might not be in the mess we are now.  Public
truth-telling and persuading can go a long way to achieve a result.

 AT> But how can that be an  effective deterrent for non-maskers when we're
 AT> letting everyone out of jail? 

Non sequitur.

 DS> It is not the foreigners who are dangerous.  It is your neighbors who
 DS> allow themselves to be exposed to the virus without adequate
 DS> protections.

Your paragraph below does not respond to the statement.

 AT> Anyone desperate enough to enter the USA, infected or not, can still
 AT> get here. There's nothing the president can do about it. The USA will
 AT> never be one  of the first countries to defeat coronavirus.

It may well be the last country to defeat coronavirus.

 AT> A vaccine sounds great, but just like the non-maskers, there's the 
 AT> anti-vaxers. If we make it a crime not to vaccinate, same deal; people
 AT> go to  jail with the coronavirus, they get out in 24 hours, and they're
 AT> back on the  street still without the vaccine.

There you go with a false premise again.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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