Subj : Re: Travel Ban? To : Aaron Thomas From : Dale Shipp Date : Sun May 24 2020 01:01 am -=> On 05-22-20 23:14, Aaron Thomas <=- -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Travel Ban? <=- DS> Then you have not been paying attention. His failure to take COVID DS> seriously in the beginning cost tens of thousands of people's life. AT> He could have prepared for it better, but how did he do worse than any AT> other world leader? I'm glad that you admitted he could have done better, instead of promising that it would go away like a miracle. There are many ways to measure how the USA did versus other countries. By number of reported infections with COVID and number of deaths because of COVID, the USA outranks every other country. Recent studies say that if "stay at home" recommendations had been made as little as a week or two earlier then tens of thousands of people would not have died. His leadership has been severely lacking. He pushes things to the states with the result of anarchy. He suppresses the considered opinions of scientists with expertise in the relevant field. He popularizes the use of untested dangerous and ineffective medicines. The first of those statistics depends on how much testing has done and is thus suspect to some degree. For example, if only people with symptoms are tested, then the rate of infections will be a lot higher. If all people are tested, the rate of infections in that population will be lower. The number of deaths is a hard statistic that can hardly be argued against. The population of the USA is larger than some other major countries, and so I think that the percentage of deaths per 100K population is a good figure to focus on. Looking at that measure that the USA has done better (so far) than some other major countries (e.g. Italy, GB, Spain) (see the chart below). It has done worse than other countries, e.g. Canada. [from a study by John Hopkins] Country Confirmed Deaths death Deaths/100k pop. /case San Marino 661 41 6.2% 121.36 Belgium 56,511 9,212 16.3% 80.65 Andorra 762 51 6.7% 66.23 Spain 234,824 28,628 12.2% 61.27 United Kingdom 255,544 36,475 14.3% 54.86 Italy 228,658 32,616 14.3% 53.97 France 182,015 28,218 15.5% 42.12 Sweden 32,809 3,925 12.0% 38.54 Netherlands 45,088 5,807 12.9% 33.70 Ireland 24,506 1,592 6.5% 32.80 USA 1,600,937 95,979 6.0% 29.34 Switzerland 30,707 1,903 6.2% 22.34 Luxembourg 3,981 109 2.7% 17.94 Ecuador 35,828 3,056 8.5% 17.89 Canada 83,947 6,360 7.6% 17.16 Portugal 30,200 1,289 4.3% 12.54 Monaco 97 4 4.1% 10.34 Peru 111,698 3,244 2.9% 10.14 Brazil 330,890 21,048 6.4% 10.05 Germany 179,710 8,228 4.6% 9.92 Denmark 11,428 561 4.9% 9.68 Iran 131,652 7,300 5.5% 8.92 Austria 16,436 635 3.9% 7.18 Panama 10,267 295 2.9% 7.06 Moldova 6,847 237 3.5% 6.68 Romania 17,712 1,166 6.6% 5.99 Finland 6,537 306 4.7% 5.55 Mexico 62,527 6,989 11.2% 5.54 North Macedonia 1,921 112 5.8% 5.38 Turkey 154,500 4,276 2.8% 5.19 Slovenia 1,468 106 7.2% 5.13 Hungary 3,678 476 12.9% 4.87 Estonia 1,807 64 3.5% 4.85 Norway 8,332 235 2.8% 4.42 Dominica 13,989 456 3.3% 4.29 Bosnia 2,372 141 5.9% 4.24 Sao Tome 251 8 3.2% 3.79 Serbia 11,024 237 2.1% 3.39 Chile 61,857 630 1.0% 3.36 Kuwait 19,564 138 0.7% 3.34 Israel 16,690 279 1.7% 3.14 Antigua/Barbuda 25 3 12.0% 3.12 Czechia 8,813 312 3.5% 2.94 Iceland 1,803 10 0.6% 2.83 Poland 20,619 982 4.8% 2.59 Armenia 5,928 74 1.2% 2.51 UAE 27,892 241 0.9% 2.50 Barbados 90 7 7.8% 2.44 Croatia 2,243 99 4.4% 2.42 Russia 326,448 3,249 1.0% 2.25 Lithuania 1,604 61 3.8% 2.19 Bolivia 5,579 230 4.1% 2.03 Belarus 34,303 190 0.6% 2.00 Bulgaria 2,372 125 5.3% 1.78 Honduras 3,477 167 4.8% 1.74 Greece 2,874 169 5.9% 1.58 Kosovo 1,004 29 2.9% 1.57 Montenegro 324 9 2.8% 1.45 Cyprus 927 17 1.8% 1.43 Algeria 7,918 582 7.4% 1.38 Colombia 19,131 682 3.6% 1.37 Ukraine 20,148 588 2.9% 1.32 Guyana 127 10 7.9% 1.28 Malta 600 6 1.0% 1.24 Latvia 1,030 22 2.1% 1.14 Saudi Arabia 67,719 364 0.5% 1.08 Albania 981 31 3.2% 1.08 Djibouti 2,270 10 0.4% 1.04 Argentina 10,649 433 4.1% 0.97 Equa. Guinea 960 11 1.1% 0.84 Philippines 13,597 857 6.3% 0.80 Mauritius 332 10 3.0% 0.79 Maldives 1,274 4 0.3% 0.78 Bahrain 8,414 12 0.1% 0.76 Egypt 15,786 707 4.5% 0.72 Cuba 1,916 81 4.2% 0.71 Oman 6,794 34 0.5% 0.70 South Africa 20,125 397 2.0% 0.69 Qatar 40,481 19 0.0% 0.68 Japan 16,513 796 4.8% 0.63 Cameroon 4,400 159 3.6% 0.63 Uruguay 753 20 2.7% 0.58 Trinidad/Tobago 116 8 6.9% 0.58 Gabon 1,728 12 0.7% 0.57 Afghanistan 9,216 205 2.2% 0.55 Morocco 7,332 197 2.7% 0.55 Cabo Verde 362 3 0.8% 0.55 Korea, South 11,165 266 2.4% 0.52 El Salvador 1,725 33 1.9% 0.51 Slovakia 1,503 28 1.9% 0.51 Indonesia 20,796 1,326 6.4% 0.50 Pakistan 50,694 1,067 2.1% 0.50 Sierra Leone 606 38 6.3% 0.50 Liberia 249 24 9.6% 0.50 Tajikistan 2,551 44 1.7% 0.48 Azerbaijan 3,855 46 1.2% 0.46 New Zealand 1,504 21 1.4% 0.43 Somalia 1,594 61 3.8% 0.41 Tunisia 1,048 47 4.5% 0.41 Singapore 30,426 23 0.1% 0.41 Australia 7,099 101 1.4% 0.40 Iraq 3,964 147 3.7% 0.38 Lebanon 1,086 26 2.4% 0.38 Chad 611 58 9.5% 0.37 Malaysia 7,137 115 1.6% 0.36 China 84,081 4,638 5.5% 0.33 Sudan 3,378 137 4.1% 0.33 Mali 969 62 6.4% 0.32 Georgia 723 12 1.7% 0.32 Guinea-Bissau 1,114 6 0.5% 0.32 Jamaica 544 9 1.7% 0.31 Congo 469 16 3.4% 0.31 Guatemala 2,743 51 1.9% 0.30 India 124,794 3,726 3.0% 0.28 Bangladesh 30,205 432 1.4% 0.27 Niger 937 60 6.4% 0.27 Burkina Faso 814 52 6.4% 0.26 Nicaragua 279 17 6.1% 0.26 Haiti 812 25 3.1% 0.22 Kyrgyzstan 1,350 14 1.0% 0.22 Senegal 2,909 33 1.1% 0.21 Costa Rica 911 10 1.1% 0.20 Kazakhstan 7,919 35 0.4% 0.19 Paraguay 838 11 1.3% 0.16 Guinea 3,067 19 0.6% 0.15 Togo 363 12 3.3% 0.15 Mauritania 200 6 3.0% 0.14 Cote d'Ivoire 2,341 29 1.2% 0.12 Nigeria 7,261 221 3.0% 0.11 Kenya 1,161 50 4.3% 0.10 Ghana 6,486 31 0.5% 0.10 Jordan 700 9 1.3% 0.09 Thailand 3,037 56 1.8% 0.08 Congo 1,945 63 3.2% 0.07 South Sudan 563 6 1.1% 0.05 Tanzania 509 21 4.1% 0.04 Uzbekistan 3,028 13 0.4% 0.04 Sri Lanka 1,068 9 0.8% 0.04 Zambia 920 7 0.8% 0.04 Libya 72 3 4.2% 0.04 Venezuela 944 10 1.1% 0.03 Taiwan* 441 7 1.6% 0.03 Zimbabwe 51 4 7.8% 0.03 Benin 135 3 2.2% 0.03 Malawi 82 3 3.7% 0.02 Nepal 516 3 0.6% 0.01 Angola 60 3 5.0% 0.01 Ethiopia 433 5 1.2% 0.00 DS> on, and the US Senate recently reported their conclusion that Russia did DS> interfer with the 2016 election to the benefit of Trump. AT> But how is that Trump's fault? I cannot say that it is Trump's fault that the Russians interfered to help him get elected. OTOH, his denial of that fact contributes to the lackluster preparadeness to insure that it does not happen again. Dale Shipp fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net (1:261/1466) .... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 01:22:29, 24 May 2020 ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Maximus/NT 3.01 * Origin: Owl's Anchor (1:261/1466) .