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### Viewing cable 09TELAVIV2500, 40TH JOINT POLITICAL-MILITARY GROUP: EXECUTIVE

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09TELAVIV2500 | 2009-11-18 14:02 | SECRET | Embassy Tel Aviv

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    S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 002500

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/17/2019
    TAGS: PREL PGOV MOPS PTER EG CH IR RU SA LE TU IS
    SUBJECT: 40TH JOINT POLITICAL-MILITARY GROUP: EXECUTIVE
    SESSION (PART 1 OF 4)

    Classified By: A/DCM Marc Sievers, reasons 1.4 (b,d)

    ¶1. (S) Summary:  During the Executive Session of the 40th
    Joint Political Military Group (JPMG), U.S. and Israeli
    counterparts continued discussion on the creation of four new
    Qualitative Military Edge (QME) working groups.  GOI
    interlocutors continued to raise concerns regarding the F-15
    sale to Saudi Arabia.  Both sides agreed that continued
    pressure be applied to Iran, especially following the
    disclosure of the nuclear facility in Qom.  GOI participants
    expressed concern regarding Chinese and Russian cooperation
    with respect to enhanced Iranian sanctions.  The GOI also
    raised dual citizenship concerns with respect to access to
    sensitive technology, and noted from its perspective Turkey's
    disturbing change of course toward Syria and Iran -- and away
    from Israel.  This is the first in four cables (septels)
    reporting on the JPMG.  End summary.

    ¶2. (SBU) Israeli Participants:

    -- Brigadier General (res) Pinchas Buchris, MOD Director
    General
    -- Major General (ret) Amos Gilad, MOD Political-Military
    Chief
    -- Brigadier General Ronen Dan, acting Israeli Defense
    Attache to the United States
    -- Gad Dovev, Director, MOD Mission, New York
    -- Alon Bar, MFA Deputy Director General for Strategic Affairs
    -- COL Shimon Arad, IDF J5
    -- Rami Yungman, MOD Political-Military Bureau
    -- Schmuel Royter, Assistant to the MOD Director General

    U.S. Participants:

    -- Andrew Shapiro, Assistant Secretary of State, Bureau of
    Political-Military Affairs
    -- Luis Moreno, Deputy Chief of Mission, U.S. Embassy Tel Aviv
    -- Dr. Colin Kahl, International Security Affairs, Deputy
    Assistant Secretary of Defense
    -- Brigadier General Jefforey Smith, Joint Staff
    -- Prem Kumar, Director for Israeli, Palestinian, Egyptian
    and Jordanian Affairs, NSC
    -- Tom Goldberger, Director for Israel and Palestinian
    Affairs, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs
    -- COL Richard Burgess, Defense Attache, U.S. Embassy Tel Aviv

    Qualitative Military Edge
    -------------------------

    ¶3. (S) The Executive Session continued discussion from the
    September 30 Qualitative Military Edge (QME) meeting in
    Washington.  Both sides presented their primary points of
    contact for the four newly proposed working groups focusing
    on previous agreements, mitigation measures for the F-15 sale
    to Saudi Arabia, technical mitigation issues, and
    intelligence/policy.  Agreement was reached to begin working
    on the details of each working group's meeting schedule and
    timeline.

    ¶4. (S) The GOI continued to express concern over the F-15
    sale to Saudi Arabia.  U.S. participants noted that the USG
    is unable to provide more detailed information about the sale
    until Saudi Arabia officially sends a Letter of Request
    (LOR).  The GOI expressed additional concerns about
    stationing these new aircraft at Tabuk airfield in the
    northwest corner of Saudi Arabia -- close to the Israeli
    border.  U.S. participants stated the USG understanding that
    this should not be an issue, as the Saudis are considering
    stationing new Typhoon aircraft at Tabuk.  The GOI also
    raised AMRAAM sales to Jordan; U.S. participants explained
    that the new C-7 AMRAAM is an export version with
    capabilities similar to the C-5 version -- and therefore
    provides little to no increase in capabilities.

    Iran, China and Russia
    ----------------------

    ¶5. (S) Both sides expressed concern over the recent
    revelation regarding Iran's nuclear facility at Qom, and
    agreed that increased pressure should be applied directly and
    internationally against Iran in order to better determine
    Tehran's motives and next steps.  Both sides agreed that the
    facility at Qom should be inspected immediately.  One member
    of the Israeli delegation expressed the opinion that some
    consideration be given to "shutting Qom operations down
    completely" to prevent further progress on obtaining a
    nuclear weapon.  That said, the GOI argued that the
    international community not become bogged down on the Tehran
    Research Reactor (TRR) and Qom, thereby diverting focus from

    TEL AVIV 00002500  002 OF 002

    the bigger issue of Iran's nuclear program.

    ¶6. (S) Several questions were raised about China's position
    on Iran's efforts to acquire a nuclear weapon.  Both sides
    agreed that continued engagement with China and Russia is
    needed -- as well as building a consensus in Europe.  The USG
    speculated, and the GOI concurred, that China will follow
    Moscow's lead.  USG participants argued that China would seek
    to avoid an international confrontation over Iran. The GOI
    described 2010 as a critical year -- if the Iranians continue
    to protect and harden their nuclear sites, it will be more
    difficult to target and damage them.  Both sides then
    discussed the upcoming delivery of GBU-28 bunker busting
    bombs to Israel, noting that the transfer should be handled
    quietly to avoid any allegations that the USG is helping
    Israel prepare for a strike against Iran.

    ¶7. (S) The GOI made the case for "crippling sanctions";
    cooperation between the United States, Europe, Russia and
    China will be necessary in order for these sanctions to be
    effective.  U.S. participants stressed the USG position that
    any discussions with Iran on this subject be finite; the USG
    will continue to monitor whether negotiations are making
    progress.  The GOI stated that it is not convinced the
    Iranians will negotiate in good faith unless there are
    visible and clear threats.  U.S. delegation members described
    eight lanes of sanctions, and outlined a plan to "pivot to
    apply appropriate pressure" on those points and tracks that
    have the most impact.  U.S. participants concurred that 2010
    is a critical year -- but the continued application of
    pressure is vital.

    ¶8. (S) Regarding Russia, the GOI was not confident that
    Moscow will be helpful in any Iranian sanctions effort -- GOI
    participants opined that Russia is considered a "mystery"
    with respect to their views on Iran.  The GOI raised the
    Russian S-300 sale to Iran, noting that the transfer is still
    pending.  GOI participants argued that Moscow seeks a return
    to superpower status, but there are contradictory trends
    regarding Russia's internal condition.

    Dual Citizenship Issues
    -----------------------

    ¶9. (S) The GOI raised the issue of dual citizenship within
    the context of access to sensitive technology.  U.S.
    participants acknowledged Israeli concerns, noting that the
    issue is being worked at the highest levels of the USG to
    reach consensus on how to proceed.  The GOI recommended
    obtaining a waiver similar to the relationship from which
    Canada or Australia benefit.

    Turkey
    ------

    ¶10. (S) The GOI raised the current direction the Government
    of Turkey has taken toward Syria and Iran -- and away from
    Israel.  Israeli participants argued that Turkey has been
    supportive of Hamas in Gaza while pursuing a more "Islamic"
    direction with the goal of becoming a regional superpower.
    The GOI argued that the Turkish military is losing its
    ability to influence government decisions and strategic
    direction.  After this past year, GOI participants said they
    have a "bad feeling" about Turkey.  The GOI noted that the
    Israel Air Force (IAF) Commander in the past wanted to speak
    to the Turkish Air Force Commander, but his Turkish
    counterpart declined.

    ¶11.  (U) A/S Shapiro has cleared on this cable.
    CUNNINGHAM

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