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### Viewing cable 10PARIS193, U/S TAUSCHER'S MEETINGS WITH FRENCH OFFICIALS

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10PARIS193 | 2010-02-19 13:01 | SECRET//NOFORN | Embassy Paris

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    S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 03 PARIS 000193

    NOFORN
    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/19/2020
    TAGS: PREL PARM MNUC KACT KNNP MARR MCAP NATO CH
    IR, PK, FR
    SUBJECT: U/S TAUSCHER'S MEETINGS WITH FRENCH OFFICIALS

    Classified By: DCM Mark Pekala, Reasons 1.4 (b), (d).

    ¶1. (C/NF) SUMMARY: Under Secretary of State for Arms Control
    and International Security Ellen Tauscher's February 2
    meetings with French counterparts from the Elysee
    (presidency) and MFA included discussions of U.S. disarmament
    priorities, the NPT Review Conference (NPT RevCon), the
    Nuclear Security Summit, and missile defense.  Meeting
    separately with NSA-equivalent Jean-David Levitte, Presidency
    Strategic Affairs Advisor Francois Richier, and MFA Strategic
    Affairs Director Patrick Maisonnave, U/S Tauscher reassured
    the French that while "a world without nuclear weapons" is a
    sincere USG ambition, the United States will not move
    precipitously and will take allies' interests into account.
    U/S Tauscher discussed next steps on NPT RevCon preparations,
    including thinking creatively about outcomes and minimizing
    the threat of disruptive Egyptian behavior.  U/S Tauscher
    also clarified USG missile defense priorities, especially
    political support for territorial defense at the 2010 Lisbon
    NATO summit. END SUMMARY.

    -----------------------------
    MOVING FORWARD ON DISARMAMENT
    -----------------------------

    ¶2. (C) U/S Tauscher stressed to Levitte, Richier, and
    Maisonnave that the U.S. position on disarmament is not far
    from that of France.  President Obama's ambition for a world
    without nuclear weapons is sincere, but grounded in reality,
    and the United States will not act precipitously or
    jeopardize core French interests or our relationship.  U/S
    Tauscher added that disarmament language in coming
    international forums, such as the April Nuclear Security
    Summit and the May Review Conference for the Nuclear
    Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT RevCon), is important to the
    United States.  However, the United States also wants a
    strong focus on non-proliferation.  Tauscher stressed that
    the USG wanted to work with France to strike the right
    balance between disarmament and nonproliferation.  The United
    States remains committed to an effective deterrent, and the
    President's recent budget proposal includes a significant
    increase for the maintaining of U.S. nuclear forces.
    Additionally, the forthcoming Nuclear Posture Review (NPR)
    will strengthen extended deterrence, focusing on the quality
    of the deterrent force rather than quantity.

    ¶3. (S/NF) Expressing relief at the USG commitment to
    coordination with France, Richier and Maisonnave nevertheless
    both stressed the French commitment to its nuclear deterrent,
    and Richier said the French worry that any unwelcome changes
    to U.S. declaratory policy in the NPR could signal a U.S.
    intention to insert the same policies into the NATO Strategic
    Concept.  Richier noted that any such attempt could impact
    France's ability to integrate its nuclear forces into NATO.
    In such a situation they would have to declare their
    strategic forces totally independent.  U/S Tauscher responded
    that the French would not be surprised by the NPR because
    consultation would be ongoing, adding that the United States
    has no intention of acting unilaterally on nuclear issues in
    the NATO context.  Richier noted that France was working on a
    paper that looks at its nuclear policy.  As a result of their
    review, the GOF has concluded that their criteria for use are
    very limited.

    ¶4. (S/NF) Levitte asked when the administration was planning
    on pushing for ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban
    Treaty (CTBT), as U.S. ratification would be key to Chinese
    ratification, the true French goal.  U/S Tauscher said that
    getting the post-START treaty ratified would be a first
    priority, but that discussions of CTBT would start soon,
    including an upcoming report by the National Academy of
    Sciences.  Levitte stated that only when the U.S. ratifies
    the CTBT will it be possible to put real pressure on the
    Chinese.  On a fissile material cutoff treaty (FMCT), Richier
    said the French have "reason to believe" that China has been
    pushing Pakistan to keep up its opposition to starting
    negotiations at the Conference on Disarmament, adding that
    Pakistan does not seem to care that it is isolated.

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    NUCLEAR SECURITY SUMMIT
    -----------------------

    ¶5. (SBU) Richier and Maisonnave both reiterated France's
    position that the April Nuclear Security Summit in Washington
    should address radiological threats in addition to nuclear
    material.  They also expressed GOF opposition to language in
    the draft communique calling for a "world without nuclear

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    weapons."  U/S Tauscher suggested that while the United
    States would insist on having disarmament language in the
    communique, the formulation agreed to in the G8 statement
    from the July 2009 L'Aquila summit may allow consensus.
    (NOTE: "We are...committed to...creating the conditions for a
    world without nuclear weapons, in accordance with the goals
    of the NPT". END NOTE.)  Richier and Maisonnave agreed that
    France could accept this language.  They did note their
    concern that it may be difficult for all 44 countries invited
    to the Nuclear Security Summit to agree to this language,
    since some are not NPT members.

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    NPT REVCON
    ----------

    ¶6. (S/NF) Richier and Maisonnave agreed with U/S Tauscher's
    analysis that Egyptian FM Aboul-Gheit will, if unchecked,
    work to undermine the RevCon with an aggressive posture on
    the Middle East Nuclear Weapons Free Zone (NWFZ) resolution.
    U/S Tauscher outlined ongoing U.S. efforts to gain consensus
    language on the NWFZ, but underlined the need to contemplate
    a more forward-leaning strategy.  She suggested considering
    possible phone calls from Presidents Obama and Sarkozy
    directly to Egyptian President Mubarak in the mid-March
    timeframe to sensitize the Egyptian president to the
    importance of the RevCon in strengthening the NPT and the
    unhelpful role the Egyptian MFA is playing.  The French
    agreed on the likely need to elevate the issue beyond
    Aboul-Gheit.  In this context, U/S Tauscher also brainstormed
    with the French on a final "package deal" that could be
    offered to the Egyptians, including new consensus language on
    a NWFZ, a conference on civilian nuclear power in the Middle
    East, and/or pushing Israel to accept CTBT. (NOTE: The latter
    two were uncleared, spontaneous French suggestions. END
    NOTE.)  U/S Tauscher said that, if Egypt is still not willing
    to budge, it may be worth finding other Non-Aligned Movement
    states that could be separated from Egypt with promises of
    assistance that Egypt would no longer receive.

    ¶7. (C) Levitte said that progress on Middle East peace prior
    to the RevCon would help greatly in creating a constructive
    atmosphere, adding that he would pursue discussions on this
    linkage at the February 5-7 Munich Security Conference.

    ¶8. (C) Richier suggested that, in the absence of an
    acceptable and substantive final document, it may be possible
    to capitalize on other events prior to the RevCon, including
    the September UN Security Council summit, the Nuclear
    Security Summit, and the March OECD-hosted civilian nuclear
    energy conference in Paris.  Richier said it may be worth
    looking into how to repackage the positive results achieved
    or expected at these events in a statement or document at the
    RevCon that acknowledges their importance in strengthening
    the NPT.

    ----
    IRAN
    ----

    ¶9. (C) Levitte said that the French ambassador in Tehran
    believes that there is a growing split between the population
    and the regime that may be irreparable.  The Iranian
    population thinks that action against the regime by the
    international community is good and France believes that it
    is important to support publicly those protesters taking to
    the street.  Levitte noted that he had talked to Iranian
    Foreign Minister Mottaki in Davos, Switzerland, in an attempt
    to get the Iranians to accept the Tehran Research Reactor
    Deal.  Mottaki stated that Iran had "new ideas" but did not
    provide any details.  Levitte stated that Iran was counting
    on tension between Washington and Beijing.

    ---------------
    MISSILE DEFENSE
    ---------------

    ¶10. (C/NF) Levitte said the GOF is in the early stages of an
    interagency review on missile defense (MD).  According to
    him, the "old guard" sees MD as a threat to France's nuclear
    deterrent, but he added that President Sarkozy has publicly
    stated that MD is in fact a welcome complement to deterrence.
     France has no money for a NATO system, but would be happy to
    contribute specific capabilities.  He added that President
    Sarkozy would not see specific proposals on the way forward
    for several weeks.  Richier added that the more details the
    United States can provide on its own plans, the easier it is
    to "arbitrate between different factions" in the French

    PARIS 00000193  003 OF 003

    government.  In the NATO context, Maisonnave's deputy and
    NATO specialist Muriel Domenach said France's concerns about
    funding required for MD were amplified by its judgment that
    the costs for programs approved for common funding inevitably
    seem to rise after approval is given.

    ¶11. (C) U/S Tauscher and DAS Frank Rose clarified that the
    U.S. Phased Adaptive Approach (PAA) was the U.S. national
    contribution to a NATO system, and that the USG would provide
    all funding.  U/S Tauscher stressed that the main U.S.
    priority was to gain political support at the head of state
    level for making territorial MD a NATO mission at the 2010
    NATO summit in Lisbon.  Tauscher noted that the United States
    wants NATO's Active Layered Theater Ballistic Missile Defense
    (ALTBMD) to provide the backbone to the Phased Adaptive
    Approach but that we would not make the Lisbon Summit a
    donors' conference.

    ------------
    OTHER ISSUES
    ------------

    ¶12. (C) On the Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE)
    Treaty, Maisonnave noted that the French government believes
    that the Treaty is dead.  But, paradoxically, everyone
    believes it is a good treaty and there is no consensus on how
    to move forward.  Germany, for example, does not believe it
    is dead.  The French believe that it would be better to take
    a Vienna Document-type approach to achieve some of the
    objectives of the CFE Treaty.

    ¶13. (C) Both Richier and Maisonnave raised the issue of the
    EC-151 Eurocopter.  Richier noted that France classified it
    as a civilian helicopter.  The French were concerned that the
    U.S. review on this issue continued to be postponed.  U/S
    Tauscher agreed to look into this matter.  She noted that a
    visit to the French factory was to occur soon and promised to
    get back to the French as soon as possible.
    RIVKIN

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