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(???) eya All!
(???) s promised a little while ago; I said I'd also have a go at writing a
(???) odern desktop Gopher Client/Browser. Here it is!
(HTM) ttps://github.com/prologic/gopherclient
(IMG) don't yet have binaries for any platforms; so please build this from
(SND) ource using Go (#golang) and the QT toolkit. On OS X with Homebrew this is
(PNG) retty easy:
(???) brew install go qt
(???) go install github.com/prologic/gopherclient
(???) lease be aware that if you are using Go 1.6+ you'll need to run with:
(???) ODEBUG=cgocheck=0 ./gopherclient
(???) ee https://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/170 and
(HTM) ttps://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/179 (Sorry!)
(???) heers
(???) ames
(???) ames Mills / prologic
(???) : prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">Heya All!<div><br></div><div>As promised a little while ag=
(???) ; I said I'd also have a go at writing a modern desktop Gopher Client/=
(???) rowser. Here it is!</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://github.com=
(???) prologic/gopherclient">https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient</a><br></d=
v><div><br></div><div>I don't yet have binaries for any platforms; so =
(PNG) lease build this from source using Go (#golang) and the QT toolkit. On OS =
(???) with Homebrew this is pretty easy:</div><div><br></div><div>$ brew instal=
(???) go qt</div><div>$ go install <a href=3D"http://github.com/prologic/gopher=
(???) lient">github.com/prologic/gopherclient</a></div><div><br></div><div>Pleas=
(???) be aware that if you are using Go 1.6+ you'll need to run with:</div>=
(???) div><br></div><div>GODEBUG=3Dcgocheck=3D0 ./gopherclient</div><div><br></d=
v><div>See=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/170">https=
(???) //github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/170</a> and=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.=
(???) om/go-qml/qml/issues/179">https://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/179</a> (So=
(???) ry!)</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>James<br clear=3D"all"><div=
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(???) ave made significant improvements all round.
(???) heck out the updated README: https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient
(IMG) f you're on a Mac and have Homebrew try:
(???) brew tap prologic/gopherclient
(???) brew install --HEAD gopherclient
(???) GODEBUG=cgocheck=0 gopherclient
(???) heers
(???) ames
(???) ames Mills / prologic
(???) : prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) : prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???) n Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 12:45 AM, James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>
(???) rote:
(???) Heya All!
(???)
(???) As promised a little while ago; I said I'd also have a go at writing a
(???) modern desktop Gopher Client/Browser. Here it is!
(???)
(???) https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient
(???)
(???) I don't yet have binaries for any platforms; so please build this from
(???) source using Go (#golang) and the QT toolkit. On OS X with Homebrew this is
(???) pretty easy:
(???)
(???) $ brew install go qt
(???) $ go install github.com/prologic/gopherclient
(???)
(???) Please be aware that if you are using Go 1.6+ you'll need to run with:
(???)
(???) GODEBUG=cgocheck=0 ./gopherclient
(???)
(???) See https://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/170 and
(???) https://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/179 (Sorry!)
(???)
(???) cheers
(???) James
(???)
(???) James Mills / prologic
(???)
(???) E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">Have made significant improvements all round.<div><br></di=
(???) ><div>Check out the updated README:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/pro=
(???) ogic/gopherclient">https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient</a></div><div>=
(???) br></div><div>If you're on a Mac and have Homebrew try:</div><div><br>=
(???) /div><div><div>$ brew tap prologic/gopherclient</div><div>$ brew install -=
(???) HEAD gopherclient</div></div><div><br></div><div>$ GODEBUG=3Dcgocheck=3D0 =
(GIF) opherclient<br></div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>James</div></div=
(???) <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_sign=
(???) ture" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><span style=3D"border-collapse:co=
(???) lapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans=
(???) serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-seri=
(???) "></font><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=
(???) 3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" targe=
(???) =3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span><div><span style=
(???) 3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font=
(???) size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" =
(SND) tyle=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;font-size:13px;color:r=
(GIF) b(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></=
(DOC) iv></div>
(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 12:45 AM, James Mills=
(???) <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" targ=
(???) t=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockq=
(???) ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
(SND) olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Heya All!<div><br></div><div>As pr=
(???) mised a little while ago; I said I'd also have a go at writing a moder=
(???) desktop Gopher Client/Browser. Here it is!</div><div><br></div><div><a hr=
(???) f=3D"https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient" target=3D"_blank">https://g=
thub.com/prologic/<wbr>gopherclient</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I don=
(???) #39;t yet have binaries for any platforms; so please build this from sourc=
(???) using Go (#golang) and the QT toolkit. On OS X with Homebrew this is pret=
(???) y easy:</div><div><br></div><div>$ brew install go qt</div><div>$ go insta=
(???) l <a href=3D"http://github.com/prologic/gopherclient" target=3D"_blank">gi=
(???) hub.com/prologic/<wbr>gopherclient</a></div><div><br></div><div>Please be =
(???) ware that if you are using Go 1.6+ you'll need to run with:</div><div>=
(???) br></div><div>GODEBUG=3Dcgocheck=3D0 ./gopherclient</div><div><br></div><d=
v>See=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/170" target=3D"=
(???) blank">https://github.com/go-qml/<wbr>qml/issues/170</a> and=C2=A0<a href=
(???) 3D"https://github.com/go-qml/qml/issues/179" target=3D"_blank">https://git=
(HTM) ub.com/go-qml/<wbr>qml/issues/179</a> (Sorry!)</div><div><br></div><div>ch=
(???) ers</div><div>James<br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"m_2189919873756145=
(ARC) 02gmail_signature"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,1=
(ERR) 6,136);font-size:13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / =
(PNG) rologic</font><br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=
(???) 3D"'courier new', monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sh=
(???) rtcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@=
(SND) hortcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a></font></span><div><span style=3D"font-family:&=
(???) uot;courier new",monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=
(???) C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-=
(???) amily:"courier new",monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)"=
(???) target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a><br></div></div></d=
v>
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(???) n Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:25 AM, <denis.bernard@laposte.net> wrote:
(???) Dear James Mills,
(???)
(???) i Danis :)
(???) I spent lot of time trying to compile your gopherclient and, if I solved
(???) some issues, it is not a success.
(???)
(???) First, my computer run Gentoo Linux. Second, I never played with golang...
(???)
(???) I loaded Gentoo packages for Go language and compiled them. (With Gentoo
(???) distro, no binaries : you have to compile everything...) I followed your
(???) instructions and I encountered a problem with the importation of "
(???) gopkg.in/qml.v1/webengine" (lines 16-17 in main.go). I solved this using
(???) a fork on Github and replacing lines 16-17 of main by :
(???)
(???) github.com/karalabe/qml
(???) github.com/karalabe/qml/webengine
(???)
(???) This should be solved. I vendored a forked version of qo-qml. As long as
(???) ou have Go 1.6+ this should *just work* with:
(???) go get github.com/prologic/gopherclient
(TN3) he second problem was about the lack of QTWebEngine on my computer. I
(???) compiled the available version for Gentoo Linux : QTWebEngine-5.6.1 . The
(???) compilation time was of 15 hours under my dual core Intel... I noticed,
(???) this morning, your new announce on the gopher project's list what you say
(???) about this requirement !
(???)
(TN3) his is a major PITA. When I embarked on tis project I did not realize at
(???) irst what a pain QTWebEngine would be. Obviously it's packaged nicely (via
(???) omebrew) for OS X. I belive someone informed me there *are* in fact
(PNG) ackages for Ubuntu if you look hard enough.
(???) Finally, I compiled my modified version of Gopherclient. It was achieved
(???) successfully, without any warning. As you said in your README, running
(???) gopherclient directly make it crash. Running it with the command
(???) GODEBUG=cgocheck=0 doesn't crash it. But, only an empty GTK window is
(???) launched ! On the terminal, there is a Gtk-WARNING : Unable to locate theme
(???) engine in module_path: "adwaita".
(???)
(TN3) his is strange and I'm unclear why GTK is at play here? This is QT
(???) fterall? Maybe my Linux Desktop experience is a little rusty :)
(???) All those jobs were done under the lowest user's Posix right permissions.
(???) Not as super user. Under Linux systems, permissions are terrible ! And I am
(???) so ignorant of golang that I am unable to install a software written in Go
(???) language in the proper directories using superuser's Posix rights. Under
(???) simple user's Posix rights, it seems me easier to do. However as I tried to
(???) shift the binary and files (like main.qml and images directory) in the Go
(???) Root tree (/usr/lib/go), I had failures due unrecognised paths !
(???)
(IMG) also solved this as well by packaging assets/resources into the binary
(???) sing QT Resources (QRC). This should work as expected without any special
(PNG) ermissions or anything.
(TN3) hank you so much for your hard valiant efforts in trying to comile this on
(???) entoo! I would greatyly apprecate further efforts trying to get
(GIF) opherclient working on LInux! I have a friend also trying to get it
(???) orking on CRUX (also a source-based sitro much like Gentoo) and I myself
(???) m still trying to get it working/comiled on Ubuntu (usig virtual
(???) achines/containers).
(???) heers
(???) ames
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M=
(???) n, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:25 AM, <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:denis.=
(???) ernard@laposte.net" target=3D"_blank">denis.bernard@laposte.net</a>></s=
(PNG) an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
(???) border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear James Mills,<br></blockq=
(???) ote><div><br></div><div>Hi Danis :)</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote clas=
(SND) =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
(DOC) ing-left:1ex">
(IMG) spent lot of time trying to compile your gopherclient and, if I solved so=
(???) e issues, it is not a success.<br>
(???) br>
(???) irst, my computer run Gentoo Linux. Second, I never played with golang...<=
(???) r>
(???) br>
(IMG) loaded Gentoo packages for Go language and compiled them. (With Gentoo di=
(SND) tro, no binaries : you have to compile everything...) I followed your inst=
(???) uctions and I encountered a problem with the importation of "<a href=
(???) 3D"http://gopkg.in/qml.v1/webengine" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
(GIF) opkg.in/qml.v1/webengine</a>" (lines 16-17 in main.go). I solved this=
(???) using a fork on Github and replacing lines 16-17 of main by :<br>
(???) br>
(???) a href=3D"http://github.com/karalabe/qml" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
(???) nk">github.com/karalabe/qml</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://github.com/karalabe/qml/webengine" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">github.com/karalabe/qml/<wbr>webengine</a><br>
(???) br></blockquote><div>This should be solved. I vendored a forked version of=
(???) qo-qml. As long as you have Go 1.6+ this should *just work* with:</div><di=
(???) ><br></div><div>$ go get <a href=3D"http://github.com/prologic/gopherclien=
(???) ">github.com/prologic/gopherclient</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
(???) blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
(???) #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(TN3) he second problem was about the lack of QTWebEngine on my computer. I comp=
led the available version for Gentoo Linux : QTWebEngine-5.6.1 . The compi=
(???) ation time was of 15 hours under my dual core Intel... I noticed, this mor=
(???) ing, your new announce on the gopher project's list what you say about=
(???) this requirement !<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a major PIT=
(???) . When I embarked on tis project I did not realize at first what a pain QT=
(???) ebEngine would be. Obviously it's packaged nicely (via Homebrew) for O=
(???) X. I belive someone informed me there *are* in fact packages for Ubuntu i=
(???) you look hard enough.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
(???) te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
(???) >Finally, I compiled my modified version of Gopherclient. It was achieved =
(SND) uccessfully, without any warning. As you said in your README, running goph=
(???) rclient directly make it crash. Running it with the command GODEBUG=3Dcgoc=
(HTM) eck=3D0 doesn't crash it. But, only an empty GTK window is launched ! =
(???) n the terminal, there is a Gtk-WARNING : Unable to locate theme engine in =
(???) odule_path: "adwaita".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This =
s strange and I'm unclear why GTK is at play here? This is QT afterall=
(???) Maybe my Linux Desktop experience is a little rusty :)</div><div>=C2=A0</=
(DOC) iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
(???) :1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) ll those jobs were done under the lowest user's Posix right permission=
(SND) . Not as super user. Under Linux systems, permissions are terrible ! And I=
(???) am so ignorant of golang that I am unable to install a software written in=
(???) Go language in the proper directories using superuser's Posix rights. =
(???) nder simple user's Posix rights, it seems me easier to do. However as =
(IMG) tried to shift the binary and files (like main.qml and images directory) =
n the Go Root tree (/usr/lib/go), I had failures due unrecognised paths !<=
(???) r></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I also solved this as well by packaging=
(???) assets/resources into the binary using QT Resources (QRC). This should wor=
(???) as expected without any special permissions or anything.</div><div>=C2=A0=
(???) /div><div>Thank you so much for your hard valiant efforts in trying to com=
le this on Gentoo! I would greatyly apprecate further efforts trying to ge=
(???) gopherclient working on LInux! I have a friend also trying to get it work=
ng on CRUX (also a source-based sitro much like Gentoo) and I myself am st=
ll trying to get it working/comiled on Ubuntu (usig virtual machines/conta=
ners).</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>James</div></div></div></=
(DOC) iv>
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Good news: OverbiteFF isn't dead yet
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(???) ozilla has shown some willingness to consider a protocol handler operator
n WebExtensions. This is only part of what we need, but I believe there
s some provision for TCP connections, and this would be enough for basic
(SND) upport in a "there is no XUL only WebExtensions" world.
(???) eanwhile, I have a partially working translation of OverbiteFF to
(???) lectrolysis in Firefox 51. As a side benefit, it should be able to install
tself without a restart. This would be transitional and it is possible all
(???) f the current features may not translate but I was able to browse various
(GIF) opher sites this morning with it without *too* many issues. Hopefully we
(???) ill have a beta soon, though you may need one of the special testing
(???) uilds of Firefox to run it since it's currently not signed (it will be).
(???) e're not dead yet!
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(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] GopherCon 2016
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(???) i Gophericans,
(???) n 29/04/16 09:27, Kevin Veroneau wrote:
(???) Reviewing the signature count, I believe we shall go ahead with
(???) GopherCon 2016.
(???)
(???) I don't want to place it into extreme short notice. Tonight I will
(???) look at the calendar and see which day in July or August will work
(???) best. I assume a Saturday or Sunday would be best for most people
(???) here. I personally a work a Monday to Friday job.
(???) [...]
(???) ave I missed something or did GopherCon 2016 not take place?
(???) re there any plans for the future?
(???) egards,
(???) altheat
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Good news: OverbiteFF isn't dead yet
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(???) reat work! And good news indeed; but I don't think Gopher will ever die
(???) ight? :)
(???) ames Mills / prologic
(???) : prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) : prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???) n Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) rote:
(???) Mozilla has shown some willingness to consider a protocol handler operator
(???) in WebExtensions. This is only part of what we need, but I believe there
(???) is some provision for TCP connections, and this would be enough for basic
(???) support in a "there is no XUL only WebExtensions" world.
(???)
(???) Meanwhile, I have a partially working translation of OverbiteFF to
(???) Electrolysis in Firefox 51. As a side benefit, it should be able to install
(???) itself without a restart. This would be transitional and it is possible all
(???) of the current features may not translate but I was able to browse various
(???) gopher sites this morning with it without *too* many issues. Hopefully we
(???) will have a beta soon, though you may need one of the special testing
(???) builds of Firefox to run it since it's currently not signed (it will be).
(???)
(???) We're not dead yet!
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">Great work! And good news indeed; but I don't think Go=
(PNG) her will ever die right? :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"a=
(???) l"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">=
(???) span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13=
(PNG) x"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br><=
(???) r><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=3D"'courier new&#=
(ERR) 9;, monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" sty=
(???) e=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a=
(???) </font></span><div><span style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monosp=
(???) ce;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http:/=
(???) prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family:'courier new',m=
(???) nospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shor=
(???) circuit.net.au</a><br></div></div></div>
(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Cameron Kai=
(SND) er <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:spectre@floodgap.com" target=3D=
(???) _blank">spectre@floodgap.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
(???) gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
(???) left:1ex">Mozilla has shown some willingness to consider a protocol handle=
(???) operator<br>
n WebExtensions. This is only part of what we need, but I believe there<br=
(???)
s some provision for TCP connections, and this would be enough for basic<b=
(???) >
(SND) upport in a "there is no XUL only WebExtensions" world.<br>
(???) br>
(???) eanwhile, I have a partially working translation of OverbiteFF to<br>
(???) lectrolysis in Firefox 51. As a side benefit, it should be able to install=
(???) br>
tself without a restart. This would be transitional and it is possible all=
(???) br>
(???) f the current features may not translate but I was able to browse various<=
(???) r>
(GIF) opher sites this morning with it without *too* many issues. Hopefully we<b=
(???) >
(???) ill have a beta soon, though you may need one of the special testing<br>
(???) uilds of Firefox to run it since it's currently not signed (it will be=
(???) .<br>
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(???) e're not dead yet!<br>
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(???) ailto:ckaiser@floodgap.com">ckaiser@floodgap.com</a><br>
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(???) es, that's a good point - I signed up for it but don't seem to remember it happening ...
(???) ent from an iPad
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(???) reat news indeed, and no, it'll never die out - it's much too useful for that, especially with todays's fast connections.
(???) ent from an iPad
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Good news: OverbiteFF isn't dead yet
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(???) Great work! And good news indeed; but I don't think Gopher will ever die
(???) right? :)
(???) ell, no, but my unscientific survey seems to indicate OverbiteFF is a
(???) ajor means of access ...
(???) ne thing to keep in mind: looks like nsIFile and in fact generic access
(???) o the file system is no longer accessible from the content process. This
(???) eans custom skins are probably no longer possible. I haven't been able
(???) o find a workaround; this is apparently by design for security reasons.
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(???) There is also Overbite for Android. Version 0.2 is the most current version. Since I have a new tablet running Android 5.1.1 __I have no menu anymore. The app works and displays the default gophersite.__
(???) But I am unable to bring up the menu, like reload, favorites, input URL. ...
(???) Maybe I am doing it wrong but I do not know what I could do the get the menu.
(???) Anyone else has this problem?
(IMG) 'm using it on Android 7.0 on my Nexus 5X and it seems to be working fine
(???) here. The menu comes up also when I tap the three dots.
(???) hich tablet is this? Is it using an overlay like TouchWiz or some other
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(???) i Cameron, thanks for replying.
(???) p 22-10-16 om 18:06 schreef Cameron Kaiser:
(???) I'm using it on Android 7.0 on my Nexus 5X and it seems to be working fine
(???) there. The menu comes up also when I tap the three dots.
(???) hat three dots?
(???) n the screen I see no dots. Only the gophersite and in the right lower
(???) orner the option to zoom in and out.
(TN3) he three buttons on the device itself result in an other action then
(SND) howing the menu.
(???) Which tablet is this? Is it using an overlay like TouchWiz or some other
(???) OEM skin?
(???)
(TN3) his is my device;
(HTM) ttp://www.samsung.com/my/tablets/galaxy-tab-a-7-0-2016-t285/
(???) efore that I used also a Samsung tablet, an older version running
(???) ndroid 4.1
(IMG) am using it as it was delivered by Samsung. I have not found a setting
(???) or changing the skin.
(???) alter
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(???) > I'm using it on Android 7.0 on my Nexus 5X and it seems to be working fine
(???) > there. The menu comes up also when I tap the three dots.
(???)
(???) What three dots?
(???)
(???) On the screen I see no dots. Only the gophersite and in the right lower
(???) corner the option to zoom in and out.
(???)
(???) The three buttons on the device itself result in an other action then
(???) showing the menu.
(???) h. Then TouchWiz has eliminated it. However, on your Galaxy Tab try a
(???) ong-press on the recent apps button to see if that triggers it.
(???) -
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(???) p 23-10-16 om 04:31 schreef Cameron Kaiser:
(???) Ah. Then TouchWiz has eliminated it. However, on your Galaxy Tab try a
(???) long-press on the recent apps button to see if that triggers it.
(TN3) o my great surprise and joy it works! At least the right button,
(PNG) ressing and keeping it pressed works. I have access to the menu.
(IMG) have been pressing and swiping all over the device and it never came
(???) p before strangely enough.
(IMG) n any case thank you. Now I can again read Dilbert on go by gopher.
(???) alter
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(???) ello,
(???) No, you did not miss it. I got a tad busy with life and wasn't able to get
t going this year. I am glad to hear that there is still interest, now with
(???) few new Gopher projects and OverbiteFF being released from the electric
(???) hair more recently.
(???) Since joining the mailing list, this year has to be one of the busiest years
n terms of new Gopher software developments. There were many new clients
(???) eleased, and older clients updated. A few new gopher servers and updates to
(???) xisting ones.
(???) Let's Make Gopher Great Again!"
(???) n Saturday, October 22, 2016 06:55:49 AM Peter Garner wrote:
(???) Yes, that's a good point - I signed up for it but don't seem to remember it
(???) happening ...
(???)
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(???) > Re: [gopher] GopherCon 2016
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Good news: OverbiteFF isn't dead yet
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(TN3) hat is great news!
(???) n Thursday, October 20, 2016 09:44:43 AM Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) Mozilla has shown some willingness to consider a protocol handler operator
(???) in WebExtensions. This is only part of what we need, but I believe there
(???) is some provision for TCP connections, and this would be enough for basic
(???) support in a "there is no XUL only WebExtensions" world.
(???)
(???) Meanwhile, I have a partially working translation of OverbiteFF to
(???) Electrolysis in Firefox 51. As a side benefit, it should be able to install
(???) itself without a restart. This would be transitional and it is possible all
(???) of the current features may not translate but I was able to browse various
(???) gopher sites this morning with it without *too* many issues. Hopefully we
(???) will have a beta soon, though you may need one of the special testing
(???) builds of Firefox to run it since it's currently not signed (it will be).
(???)
(???) We're not dead yet!
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(???) ello Walter,
(???) I struggled with the same problems awhile back on a newer Samung phone and
(???) ablet I bought years ago. As a result, I took the source code for Overbite
(???) or Android and gave it a modern look and feel to current Android apps. I
(PNG) ersonally use this version on my devices now:
(GIF) opher://gopher.veroneau.net/1library/OverbiteAndroid
(???) My gopherspace here also has some screenshots displaying it working on
(???) ndroid 2.3, as well as ICS(4.1??) when I originally build it. It still works
(???) n my new Blackberry Priv running Android 6.0. You will notice that on this
(???) ersion an address bar is added, along with a reload and add to desktop
(???) uttons for screens that have enough room.
(???) n Sunday, October 23, 2016 04:39:16 AM Walter Vermeir wrote:
(???) Op 23-10-16 om 04:31 schreef Cameron Kaiser:
(???) > Ah. Then TouchWiz has eliminated it. However, on your Galaxy Tab try a
(???) > long-press on the recent apps button to see if that triggers it.
(???)
(???) To my great surprise and joy it works! At least the right button,
(???) pressing and keeping it pressed works. I have access to the menu.
(???)
(???) I have been pressing and swiping all over the device and it never came
(???) up before strangely enough.
(???)
(???) In any case thank you. Now I can again read Dilbert on go by gopher.
(???)
(???) Walter
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