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(???) ello All!
(???) As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It seems my
(PNG) hone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize for
(???) hat...
(???) I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email message...
(???) This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper right,
(???) ust like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily search
(???) ither Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their
(PNG) age or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button!
(???) orks like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world.
(???) I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much much
(???) asier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think.
(???) Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code,
(???) nfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with the
(???) azarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned for a
(???) PC build.
(???) Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher client,
(???) nd am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS complient
(???) GV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the YouTube video once
t completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms
(???) As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern and
(???) seful cross-platform gopher client around.
(???) n Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:
(???) <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy" content="script-src
(???) 'self'; img-src * data:;"></head><body style="line-height: initial;
(???) background-image: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div
(???) id="response_container" style="outline: none" contenteditable="false">
(???) <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Hello all;</div><div name="BB10"
(???) id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10"
(???) id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> A new update this
(???) evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what
(???) you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers. This will
(???) enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single
(???) click away! Future updates will also enable the ability to add
(???) custom searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s merely
(???) by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to
(???) search bar".</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
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(???) 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As
(???) for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible. Lazarus
(???) actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler. I will try
(???) this out in the new version.</div>
(???)
(???) <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%;
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(???) initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent
(???) from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the TELUS
(???) Network</div> </div></div><div
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(???) id="from"><b>From:</b>Barana24@hotmail.com</div><div
(???) id="sent"><b>Sent:</b>August 29, 2016 4:48 AM</div><div
(???) id="to"><b>To:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</div><div
(???) id="reply_to"><b>Reply-to:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</div>
(???) <div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI
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(???) <div
(???) style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-family:'
(???) calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"> <p>you have a tester
(???) waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.<br>
(???) </p>
(???) <br>
(???) <br>
(???) <div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )">
(???) <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%">
(???) <div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000" face="Calibri,
(???) sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Gopher-Project
(???) <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au><br>
(???) <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM<br>
(???) <b>To:</b> Gopher Project Discussion<br>
(???) <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client</font>
(???) <div> </div>
(???) </div>
(???) <div>
(???) <div dir="ltr">Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on the
(???) Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with
(???) zoomed in display. <div><br>
(???) </div>
(???) <div>:)</div>
(???) </div>
(???) <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text"><br clear="all">
(???) <div>
(???) <div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) );font-size:13px"><br> <font face="arial, sans-serif">James Mills /
(???) prologic</font><br>
(???) <br>
(???) <font face="arial, sans-serif"></font><font face="'courier new',
(???) monospace">E: <a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au"
(???) style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) )">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span> <div><span
(???) style="font-family:'courier new' , monospace;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) );font-size:13px">W: </span><a
(???) href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style="font-family:'courier
(???) new' , monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) )">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br> </div>
(???) </div>
(???) </div>
(???) <br>
(???) <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text">On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at
(???) 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir="ltr"> <<a
(???) href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span>
(???) wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
(???) solid;padding-left:1ex"> That's great to hear. :) I have a new
(???) update which I released into the source<br> repo, but not all the binaries
(???) are updated yet as I need to go through all my<br> development
(???) environments here to build the project and upload them into my<br>
(???) Gopherspace.<br>
(???) <br>
(???) Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start
(???) doing<br> work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font
(???) sizes and a<br> proper threaded download manager. :)<br>
(???) <div>
(???) <div><br>
(???) On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:<br>
(???) > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more
(???) "hanging".<br> ><br>
(???) > Fonts are still very blurred though :)<br>
(???) ><br>
(???) ><br>
(???) > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) ><br>
(???) > E: <a
(???) href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a
(???) ><br> > W: <a href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) ><br>
(???) > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau <<a
(???) href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) > > A REALLY BIG update!<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the
(???) latest<br> > > versions<br>
(???) > > as well.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > *** What's new ***<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > * Full Bookmark support! Bookmarks are saved
(???) into a local file in<br> > > Gopher<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > Menu format. So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can
(???) edit the<br> > > bookmark file.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and
(???) binary.<br> > > * Ability to save the image you are
(???) viewing to your local<br> > ><br>
(???) > > disk(Right-click<br>
(???) > > menu).<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to local
(???) disk,<br> > ><br>
(???) > > Text/Image/Binary<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes in
(???) the tree view.<br> > > * Updated icons, taken from the
(???) Emerald GPL iconset.<br> > > * You can now resize the
(???) middle divider.<br> > > * Many bug fixes and improved
(???) stability.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary
(???) files on a slow<br> > ><br>
(???) > > connection<br>
(???) > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the background
(???) isn't<br> > > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > Attached is a screenshot from my Linux workstation, I
(???) tried to snapshot<br> > ><br>
(???) > > the<br>
(???) > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot doesn't
(???) do that.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > Anyways, let me know what you think of this update
(???) and the project<br> > ><br>
(???) > > overall.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau
(???) wrote:<br> > > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that
(???) Access Violation, I had<br> > > > that problem during initial
(???) development which ended up slowing down<br> > ><br>
(???) > > development.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > I will look further into that.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > Font options would be something I will definately look
(???) into.<br> > > ><br>
(???) > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so
(???) now<br> > > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes which
(???) use the search<br> > > > type. Initial support for the 'h'
(???) type has also been added, however I<br> > > > am trying to<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > debug<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages use
(???) work<br> > ><br>
(???) > > properly.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet, I
(???) will make<br> > > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening
(???) after I get more working.<br> > > > :)<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills
(???) wrote:<br> > > > > Okay... So running from
(???) /Applications/gopher.app/<wbr>Contents/MacOS works<br> > > >
(???) ><br>
(???) > > > > $ ./gopher<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access
(???) Violation -- pascal<br> > > > > days coming back to me!)<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > e.g: <a
(???) href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59">
(???) https://gist.github.com/<wbr>5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c<wbr>59</a><br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically use
(???) OS X's buitin<br> > > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm
(???) legally blind) and whatever fonts or<br> > > > > however
(???) content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad<br> > >
(???) > > :(<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > James<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > E: <a
(???) href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a
(???) ><br> > > > > W: <a href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills<br>
(???) > > > > <<a
(???) href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a
(???) >><br> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are right
(???) about where it<br> > > > > > connects to by default (or
(???) tries to).<br> > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try
(???) to dig in to<br> > > > > > why...<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > E: <a
(???) href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a
(???) ><br> > > > > > W: <a
(???) href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin
(???) Veroneau<br> > > > > > <<a
(???) href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> > >
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load <a
(???) href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net</a> by<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > default.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of
(???) the platforms I tested<br> > ><br>
(???) > > it<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> on, not<br>
(???) > > > > >> sure what's going on there. I only
(???) noticed a crash if there was<br> > > > > >> no
(???) network<br>
(???) > > > > >> available.<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if you
(???) run it from inside<br> > > > > >> the Application
(???) bundle. It might display some sort of output<br> > > > >
(???) >> there.<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > This<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> is my<br>
(???) > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so
(???) maybe something in the<br> > > > > >> plist is
(???) incorrect.<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM
(???) James Mills wrote:<br> > > > > >> > So one major
(???) issue right now )blocker):<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > a) Open App<br>
(???) > > > > >> > b) It loads <a
(???) href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com</a> by default
(???) (fine)<br>
(???) > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not
(???) responsive to GUI events,<br> > > > > >> >
(???) spinning<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> wheel)<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:<br>
(???) > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads<br>
(???) > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is there a
(???) bug?<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > >> > James<br>
(???) > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > E: <a
(???) href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a
(???) ><br> > > > > >> > W: <a
(???) href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin
(???) Veroneau <<br> > ><br>
(???) > > <a
(???) href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> >
(???) ><br>
(???) > > > > >> wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > >> > > Cameron, it might be possible
(???) to compile a version for Mac OS<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) X 10.4, looking<br>
(???) > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it looks
(???) like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) 1.2.6<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> can<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > build<br>
(???) > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.<br>
(???) > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > <a
(???) href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com">
(???) http://wiki.freepascal.org/<wbr>Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#<wbr>Com</a>
(???) <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> patibility<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has matured
(???) enough, and you have about<br> > ><br>
(???) > > an<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> hour to<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing Xcode
(???) and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4<br> > ><br>
(???) > > and<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > running the<br>
(???) > > > > >> > > compile process. There is only
(???) one Lazarus package needed<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) other than<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> the<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > base<br>
(???) > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is
(???) TurboPowerIPro which is used<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) for the<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> HTML<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > widget. Even if this isn't
(???) compatible with needed version of<br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> Lazarus, we<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a
(???) different widget.<br> > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016
(???) 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:<br> > > > > >> >
(???) > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.<br> > >
(???) > > >> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain)
(???) is unable to open the DMG.<br> > > > > >> > > >
(???) > The error is "unrecognized disk image".<br> > > > >
(???) >> > > ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4 either,
(???) though I strongly suspect<br> > > > > >> > > >
(???) the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.<br> > > > > >> >
(???) ><br>
(???) > > > > >> > >
(???) ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br> > > >
(???) > >> > > <a
(???) href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> > > <a
(???) href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph">
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>goph</a>
(???) <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >> er-project<br>
(???) > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > >>
(???) ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > >> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > >> <a
(???) href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> <a
(???) href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/">
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/</a><br> >
(???) ><br>
(???) > > gopher-project<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > <a
(???) href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > <a
(???) href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) ct">
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) roject</a><br> > ><br>
(???) > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > <a
(???) href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > <a
(???) href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) ct">
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) roject</a><br> <br>
(???) ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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(???) <a
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(???) ct">http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/<wbr>gophe
(???) r-project</a><br> </div>
(???) </div>
(???) </blockquote>
(???) </div>
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(???) ey Kevin,
(???) hat about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the
(???) onts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a
(???) ision impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X ->
(???) ystem Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any of
(???) he content in the client :/ Very very blurry :)
(IMG) 'll nonetheless test out the latest update though!
(???) heers
(???) ames
(???) ames Mills / prologic
(???) : prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) : prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???) n Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net> wrote:
(???) Hello All!
(???)
(???) As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It
(???) seems my
(???) phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize for
(???) that...
(???)
(???) I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email
(???) message...
(???)
(???) This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper right,
(???) just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily search
(???) either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their
(???) page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button!
(???) Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world.
(???)
(???) I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much
(???) much
(???) easier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think.
(???)
(???) Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code,
(???) unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with
(???) the
(???) Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned
(???) for a
(???) PPC build.
(???)
(???) Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher
(???) client,
(???) and am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS complient
(???) OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the YouTube video
(???) once
(???) it completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms
(???)
(???) As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern
(???) and
(???) useful cross-platform gopher client around.
(???)
(???) On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:
(???) > <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy"
(???) content="script-src
(???) > 'self'; img-src * data:;"></head><body style="line-height: initial;
(???) > background-image: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div
(???) > id="response_container" style="outline: none" contenteditable="false">
(???) > <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Hello all;</div><div name="BB10"
(???) > id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10"
(???) > id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> A new update this
(???) > evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what
(???) > you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers. This will
(???) > enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single
(???) > click away! Future updates will also enable the ability to add
(???) > custom searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s
(???) merely
(???) > by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to
(???) > search bar".</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
(???) > 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As
(???) > for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible. Lazarus
(???) > actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler. I will
(???) try
(???) > this out in the new version.</div>
(???) >
(???) > <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%;
(???) > font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro",
(???) > sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial;
(???) > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br
(???) > style="display:initial"></div> <div
(???) > id="blackberry_signature" name="BB10" dir="auto"> <div name="BB10"
(???) > dir="auto" style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent
(???) > from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the TELUS
(???) > Network</div> </div></div><div
(???) > id="_original_msg_header">
(???) >
(???) > <table width="100%" style="border-spacing: 0px; display:
(???) > table; outline: none; background-color: white;" contenteditable="false">
(???) > <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding: initial; font-size: initial;
(???) > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
(???) > <div style="border-right: none; border-bottom: none;
(???) > border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt
(???) > 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, "BB Alpha Sans", "Slate
(???) > Pro"; font-size: 10pt;"> <div
(???) > id="from"><b>From:</b>Barana24@hotmail.com</div><div
(???) > id="sent"><b>Sent:</b>August 29, 2016 4:48 AM</div><div
(???) > id="to"><b>To:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</div><div
(???) > id="reply_to"><b>Reply-to:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) </div>
(???) > <div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher
(???) GUI
(???) > Client</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-right:
(???) > none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid
(???) > rgb(186, 188, 209); display: block; padding: initial; font-size: initial;
(???) > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div> <br>
(???) > </div><!--start of _originalContent --><div name="BB10" dir="auto"
(???) > style="line-height: initial; outline: none; background-image: initial;"
(???) > contenteditable="false">
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > <div dir="ltr">
(???) > <div
(???) > style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#
(???) ffffff;font-family:'
(???) > calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"> <p>you have a tester
(???) > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.<br>
(???) > </p>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )">
(???) > <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%">
(???) > <div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"
(???) face="Calibri,
(???) > sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Gopher-Project
(???) > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >
(???) > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au><br>
(???) > <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM<br>
(???) > <b>To:</b> Gopher Project Discussion<br>
(???) > <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client</font>
(???) > <div> </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <div>
(???) > <div dir="ltr">Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on
(???) the
(???) > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with
(???) > zoomed in display. <div><br>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <div>:)</div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text"><br clear="all">
(???) > <div>
(???) > <div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) > );font-size:13px"><br> <font face="arial, sans-serif">James Mills /
(???) > prologic</font><br>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <font face="arial, sans-serif"></font><font face="'courier new',
(???) > monospace">E: <a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au"
(???) > style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) > )">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span> <div><span
(???) > style="font-family:'courier new' , monospace;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) > );font-size:13px">W: </span><a
(???) > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style="font-family:'courier
(???) > new' , monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) > )">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br> </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text">On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at
(???) > 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir="ltr"> <<a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span>
(???) > wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
(???) > solid;padding-left:1ex"> That's great to hear. :) I have a new
(???) > update which I released into the source<br> repo, but not all the
(???) binaries
(???) > are updated yet as I need to go through all my<br> development
(???) > environments here to build the project and upload them into my<br>
(???) > Gopherspace.<br>
(???) > <br>
(???) > Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start
(???) > doing<br> work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font
(???) > sizes and a<br> proper threaded download manager. :)<br>
(???) > <div>
(???) > <div><br>
(???) > On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:<br>
(???) > > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more
(???) > "hanging".<br> ><br>
(???) > > Fonts are still very blurred though :)<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > W: <a href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau <<a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) > > > A REALLY BIG update!<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the
(???) > latest<br> > > versions<br>
(???) > > > as well.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > *** What's new ***<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * Full Bookmark support! Bookmarks are saved
(???) > into a local file in<br> > > Gopher<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > Menu format. So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can
(???) > edit the<br> > > bookmark file.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and
(???) > binary.<br> > > * Ability to save the image you are
(???) > viewing to your local<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > disk(Right-click<br>
(???) > > > menu).<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to
(???) local
(???) > disk,<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > Text/Image/Binary<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes
(???) in
(???) > the tree view.<br> > > * Updated icons, taken from the
(???) > Emerald GPL iconset.<br> > > * You can now resize the
(???) > middle divider.<br> > > * Many bug fixes and improved
(???) > stability.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary
(???) > files on a slow<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > connection<br>
(???) > > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the
(???) background
(???) > isn't<br> > > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > Attached is a screenshot from my Linux
(???) workstation, I
(???) > tried to snapshot<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > the<br>
(???) > > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot
(???) doesn't
(???) > do that.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > Anyways, let me know what you think of this update
(???) > and the project<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > overall.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau
(???) > wrote:<br> > > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that
(???) > Access Violation, I had<br> > > > that problem during initial
(???) > development which ended up slowing down<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > development.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > I will look further into that.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > Font options would be something I will definately look
(???) > into.<br> > > ><br>
(???) > > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so
(???) > now<br> > > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes
(???) which
(???) > use the search<br> > > > type. Initial support for the 'h'
(???) > type has also been added, however I<br> > > > am trying to<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > debug<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages
(???) use
(???) > work<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > properly.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet,
(???) I
(???) > will make<br> > > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening
(???) > after I get more working.<br> > > > :)<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills
(???) > wrote:<br> > > > > Okay... So running from
(???) > /Applications/gopher.app/<wbr>Contents/MacOS works<br> > > >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > > $ ./gopher<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access
(???) > Violation -- pascal<br> > > > > days coming back to me!)<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > e.g: <a
(???) > href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59">
(???) > https://gist.github.com/<wbr>5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c
(???) <wbr>59</a><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically
(???) use
(???) > OS X's buitin<br> > > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm
(???) > legally blind) and whatever fonts or<br> > > > > however
(???) > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad<br> >
(???) >
(???) > > > :(<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > > James<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > > > > W: <a href="http://prologic.
(???) shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills<br>
(???) > > > > > <<a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > >><br> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are
(???) right
(???) > about where it<br> > > > > > connects to by default (or
(???) > tries to).<br> > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try
(???) > to dig in to<br> > > > > > why...<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > > > > > W: <a
(???) > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin
(???) > Veroneau<br> > > > > > <<a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> >
(???) >
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load <a
(???) > href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net</a> by<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > default.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of
(???) > the platforms I tested<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > it<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> on, not<br>
(???) > > > > > >> sure what's going on there. I only
(???) > noticed a crash if there was<br> > > > > >> no
(???) > network<br>
(???) > > > > > >> available.<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if
(???) you
(???) > run it from inside<br> > > > > >> the Application
(???) > bundle. It might display some sort of output<br> > > >
(???) >
(???) > >> there.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > This<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> is my<br>
(???) > > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so
(???) > maybe something in the<br> > > > > >> plist is
(???) > incorrect.<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM
(???) > James Mills wrote:<br> > > > > >> > So one major
(???) > issue right now )blocker):<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > a) Open App<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > b) It loads <a
(???) > href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com</a> by default
(???) > (fine)<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not
(???) > responsive to GUI events,<br> > > > > >> >
(???) > spinning<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> wheel)<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2
(???) threads<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is
(???) there a
(???) > bug?<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > James<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > > > > >> > W: <a
(???) > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin
(???) > Veroneau <<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > Cameron, it might be
(???) possible
(???) > to compile a version for Mac OS<br> > > > > >> >
(???) >
(???) > X 10.4, looking<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it
(???) looks
(???) > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > 1.2.6<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> can<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > build<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > <a
(???) > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com">
(???) > http://wiki.freepascal.org/<wbr>Installing_Lazarus_on_
(???) MacOS_X#<wbr>Com</a>
(???) > <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> patibility<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has
(???) matured
(???) > enough, and you have about<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > an<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> hour to<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing
(???) Xcode
(???) > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > and<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > running the<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > compile process. There is
(???) only
(???) > one Lazarus package needed<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > other than<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> the<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > base<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is
(???) > TurboPowerIPro which is used<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > for the<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> HTML<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > widget. Even if this isn't
(???) > compatible with needed version of<br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> Lazarus, we<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a
(???) > different widget.<br> > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016
(???) > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:<br> > > > > >> >
(???) > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.<br> > >
(???) > > > >> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El
(???) Captain)
(???) > is unable to open the DMG.<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) >
(???) > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".<br> > > > >
(???) > >> > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4
(???) either,
(???) > though I strongly suspect<br> > > > > >> > > >
(???) > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.<br> > > > > >>
(???) >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > >
(???) > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br> > > >
(???) > > >> > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> > > <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>goph</a>
(???) > <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> er-project<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >>
(???) > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > > >> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > > >> <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/</a><br>
(???) >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > gopher-project<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) > ct">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) > roject</a><br> > ><br>
(???) > > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) > ct">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) > roject</a><br> <br>
(???) > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) > ct">http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>gophe
(???) > r-project</a><br> </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </blockquote>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <br>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Kevin,<div><br></div><div>What about decent accessibil=
ty support? :) By that I simply mean how the fonts are being rendered or t=
(HTM) e fonts themselves make it quite hard for a vision impaired person such as=
(???) myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X -> System Preferences -> Accessi=
(???) ility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any of the content in the cl=
ent :/ Very very blurry :)</div><div><br></div><div>I'll nonetheless t=
(???) st out the latest update though!</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div=
(???) James</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div cl=
(???) ss=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><span style=3D"b=
(???) rder-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px"><br><font fa=
(???) e=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br><br><font face=3D=
(???) arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">=
(???) :=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(=
(TXT) ,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span><=
(DOC) iv><span style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;color:rgb(13=
(UUE) ,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortc=
rcuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family:'courier new',monospace;font-si=
(???) e:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au<=
(???) a><br></div></div></div>
(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veron=
(???) au <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net" target=3D"_=
(???) lank">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
(???) :1ex">Hello All!<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 As promised there is a new update which adds many new features.=C2=
(???) A0 It seems my<br>
(PNG) hone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apolog=
ze for<br>
(???) hat...<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain emai=
(???) message...<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper r=
ght,<br>
(???) ust like Firefox and Mozilla browser products.=C2=A0 Now you can easily se=
(???) rch<br>
(???) ither Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their=
(???) br>
(PNG) age or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button!<b=
(???) >
(???) orks like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world.<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be mu=
(???) h much<br>
(???) asier to read and use.=C2=A0 :)=C2=A0 Let me know what you think.<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code,<=
(???) r>
(???) nfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile.=C2=A0 I will be workin=
(GIF) with the<br>
(???) azarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned for=
(???) a<br>
(???) PC build.<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher=
(???) client,<br>
(???) nd am uploading it to YouTube now.=C2=A0 I will also upload the FLOSS comp=
(???) ient<br>
(???) GV file into my Gopherspace soon as well.=C2=A0 You can find the YouTube v=
deo once<br>
t completes here:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 As always, any feedback is great.=C2=A0 I want to make this the most=
(???) modern and<br>
(???) seful cross-platform gopher client around.<br>
(???) br>
(???) n Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:<br>
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(???) br>Policy" content=3D"script-src<br>
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(???) gt;<div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"response_container" style=3D"outline: none" =
(???) ontenteditable=3D"false"><br>
(???) gt; <div name=3D"BB10" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"w=
dth: 100%; font-size: initial;<br>
(???) gt; font-family: Calibri, &quot;Slate Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-=
(SND) erif;<br>
(???) gt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;<br>
(???) gt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Hello all;</div>=
(???) lt;div name=3D"BB10"<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto" style=3D&quo=
(???) ;width: 100%; font-size: initial;<br>
(???) gt; font-family: Calibri, &quot;Slate Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-=
(SND) erif;<br>
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(???) gt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div>&=
(???) t;div name=3D"BB10"<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto" style=3D&quo=
(???) ;width: 100%; font-size: initial;<br>
(???) gt; font-family: Calibri, &quot;Slate Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-=
(SND) erif;<br>
(???) gt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;<br>
(???) gt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">&nbsp; A new update=
(???) this<br>
(???) span class=3D"">> evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search=
(???) bar similar to what<br>
(???) /span>> you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers. &nbsp=
(???) This will<br>
(???) span class=3D"">> enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia=
(???) with just a single<br>
(???) /span>> click away! &nbsp;Future updates will also enable the abili=
(???) y to add<br>
(???) span class=3D"">> custom searches to this box for your other favourite =
(GIF) opher type 7s merely<br>
(???) gt; by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add=
(???) to<br>
(???) /span>> search bar".</div><div name=3D"BB10" id=
(???) 3D"BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto"<br>
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(???) mp;quot;Slate<br>
(???) gt; Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); paddin=
(GIF) :<br>
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(???) gt; 255);"><br></div><div name=3D"BB10" i=
(DOC) =3D"BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto"<br>
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(???) mp;quot;Slate<br>
(???) gt; Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); paddin=
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(???) gt; initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);&qu=
(???) t;>As<br>
(???) gt; for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible. &n=
(???) sp;Lazarus<br>
(???) gt; actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler. &nbsp;I =
(???) ill try<br>
(???) gt; this out in the new version.</div><br>
(???) gt;<br>
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(???) ;div name=3D"BB10" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width: 1=
(TXT) 0%;<br>
(???) gt; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, &quot;Slate Pro&quot=
(???) ,<br>
(???) gt; sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial;<br>
(???) gt; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> &=
(???) t;br<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"display:initial"></div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
(???) A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
(???) C2=A0 <div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"blackberry_signature" name=3D"BB10" dir=3D&q=
(???) ot;auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<div name=3D"BB10"<br>
(???) gt; dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size: initial; font-family: =
(???) alibri, &quot;Slate<br>
(???) gt; Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); paddin=
(GIF) :<br>
(???) gt; initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);&qu=
(???) t;>Sent<br>
(???) span class=3D"">> from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile devi=
(???) e - via the TELUS<br>
(???) /span>> Network</div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
(???) A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </div></div><div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"_original_msg_header"><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <tabl=
(???) width=3D"100%" style=3D"border-spacing: 0px; display:<br>
(???) gt; table; outline: none; background-color: white;" contenteditable=
(???) 3D"false"><br>
(???) gt; <tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"2" style=3D"pa=
(DOC) ding: initial; font-size: initial;<br>
(???) gt; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><b=
(???) >
(???) gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<div style=3D"b=
(???) rder-right: none; border-bottom: none;<br>
(???) gt; border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: =
(ERR) pt<br>
(???) gt; 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, &quot;BB Alpha Sans&quot;, &=
(???) uot;Slate<br>
(???) gt; Pro&quot;; font-size: 10pt;">=C2=A0 <div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"from"><b>From:</b><a href=3D"mailto:Bar=
(???) na24@hotmail.com">Barana24<wbr>@hotmail.com</a></div><div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"sent"><b>Sent:</b>August 29, 2016 4:48 =
(???) M</div><div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"to"><b>To:</b><a href=3D"mailto:gopher-=
(PNG) roject@lists.alioth.debian.org">gopher-<wbr>project@lists.alioth.debian.<w=
(???) r>org</a></div><div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"reply_to"><b>Reply-to:</b><a href=3D"ma=
lto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org"><wbr>gopher-project@lists.alio=
(???) h.<wbr>debian.org</a></div><br>
(???) gt; <div id=3D"subject"><b>Subject:</b><wbr>Re=
(???) [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI<br>
(???) gt; Client</div></div></td></tr></<wbr>tbody>=
(???) </table><div style=3D"border-right:<br>
(???) gt; none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid<br=
(???)
(???) gt; rgb(186, 188, 209); display: block; padding: initial; font-size: initi=
(???) l;<br>
(???) gt; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">&l=
(???) ;/div> <br><br>
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(???) ;BB10" dir=3D"auto"<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"line-height: initial; outline: none; background-image: i=
(???) itial;"<br>
(???) gt; contenteditable=3D"false"><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
(???) gt; <div<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#<wbr>000000;background-color:#<wbr=
(???) ffffff;font-family:'<br>
(???) gt; calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"=
(???) > <p>you have a tester<br>
(???) gt; waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.<br><br>
(???) gt; </p><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <div style=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )"><br>
(???) gt; <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;<wbr>width:98%"><br>
(???) gt; <div dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt=
(???) quot; color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri,<br>
(???) gt; sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Gopher-Project<br>
(???) gt; &lt;gopher-project-bounces+<wbr>barana24=3D<a href=3D"mailto:hotma=
l.com@lists.alioth.debian.org">hotmail.com@lists.<wbr>alioth.debian.org</a=
(???) &gt<br>
(???) gt; ; on behalf of James Mills &<a href=3D"mailto:lt%3Bprologic@shortc=
rcuit.net.au">lt;prologic@shortcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a>&gt;<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM<br><br>
(???) gt; <b>To:</b> Gopher Project Discussion<br><br>
(???) gt; <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI=
(???) Client</font><br>
(???) gt; <div>&nbsp;</div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <div><br>
(???) gt; <div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macboo=
(???) with OS X turn on the<br>
(???) span class=3D"">> Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gop=
(HTM) er client/app with<br>
(???) /span>> zoomed in display. <div><br><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <div>:)</div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"elided-text&=
(???) uot;><br clear=3D"all"><br>
(???) gt; <div><br>
(???) gt; <div><span style=3D"border-collapse:<wbr>collapse;color:=
(???) gb( 136 , 136 , 136<br>
(???) gt; );font-size:13px"><br> <font face=3D"arial, sans=
(???) serif">James Mills /<br>
(???) gt; prologic</font><br><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font=
(???) face=3D"'courier new',<br>
(???) gt; monospace">E:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"ma=
lto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t;<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204<br>
(???) gt; )"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@sh=
(???) rtcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a></a></font></span> <div>&=
(???) t;span<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"font-family:'courier new' , monospace;color:rgb(=
(???) 136 , 136 , 136<br>
(???) gt; );font-size:13px">W:&nbsp;</<wbr>span><a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t; style=3D"font-family:'courier<br>
(???) gt; new' , monospace;font-size:13px;<wbr>color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204<br>
(???) gt; )"><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"nore=
(???) errer" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a></a>&l=
(???) ;br> </div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"elided-text&=
(???) uot;>On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at<br>
(???) gt; 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir=3D"ltr"> &lt;<=
(???) a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt;</span><br>
(???) gt; wrote:<br> <blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;borde=
(???) -left:1px #ccc<br>
(???) gt; solid;padding-left:1ex"> That's great to hear. :)&nbsp=
(???) I have a new<br>
(???) gt; update which I released into the source<br> repo, but not all th=
(???) binaries<br>
(???) gt; are updated yet as I need to go through all my<br> development<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; environments here to build the project and upload them into my<br&g=
(???) ;<br>
(???) gt; Gopherspace.<br><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) span class=3D"">> Now that most of the main gopher functionality is pre=
(SND) ent, I can start<br>
(???) /span>> doing<br> work on the usability and accessible functions,=
(???) such as font<br>
(???) gt; sizes and a<br> proper threaded download manager. :)<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; <div><br>
(???) gt; <div><br><br>
(???) gt; On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:<br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more=
(???) br>
(???) gt; "hanging".<br> &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; Fonts are still very blurred though :)<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; James Mills / prologic<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; E: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; W: <a href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prolog=
c.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologi=
(???) .<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau &lt;<a=
(???) br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt; wrote:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; A REALLY BIG update!<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been update=
(DOC) to the<br>
(???) gt; latest<br> &gt; &gt; versions<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; as well.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; *** What's new ***<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Full Bookmark support!&nbs=
(PNG) ; Bookmarks are saved<br>
(???) gt; into a local file in<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;G=
(???) pher<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; Menu format.&nbsp; So if you know the Gopher pro=
(???) ocol, you can<br>
(???) gt; edit the<br> &gt; &gt; bookmark file.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Support for many more GopherTy=
(PNG) es, search, and<br>
(???) gt; binary.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Ability to s=
(???) ve the image you are<br>
(???) gt; viewing to your local<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; disk(Right-click<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; menu).<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Ability to download supported =
(???) opherTypes to local<br>
(???) gt; disk,<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; Text/Image/Binary<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* You can now close previously o=
(PNG) ened GopherNodes in<br>
(???) gt; the tree view.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Updat=
(???) d icons, taken from the<br>
(???) gt; Emerald GPL iconset.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;*=
(???) You can now resize the<br>
(???) gt; middle divider.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Many=
(???) bug fixes and improved<br>
(???) gt; stability.<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;I wouldn't recommend downloa=
(DOC) ing uber large binary<br>
(???) gt; files on a slow<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; connection<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; as threading AKA a download manager which runs in th=
(???) background<br>
(???) gt; isn't<br> &gt; &gt; yet implemented, so downloads do=
(???) hang the GUI.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;Attached is a screenshot from my=
(???) Linux workstation, I<br>
(???) gt; tried to snapshot<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnap=
(SND) hot doesn't<br>
(???) gt; do that.<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;Anyways, let me know what you th=
nk of this update<br>
(???) gt; and the project<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; overall.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Vero=
(???) eau<br>
(???) gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hmm, not entirely sure wha=
(???) is causing that<br>
(???) gt; Access Violation, I had<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; that prob=
(???) em during initial<br>
(???) gt; development which ended up slowing down<br> &gt; &gt;<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; development.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; I will look further into that.<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Font options would be something I will defi=
(???) ately look<br>
(???) gt; into.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I updated the Source code to enable GopherT=
(???) pe 7 and h, so<br>
(???) gt; now<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; Veronica-2 works, as well as =
(???) ost gopherholes which<br>
(???) gt; use the search<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; type.&nbsp; In=
tial support for the 'h'<br>
(???) gt; type has also been added, however I<br> &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; am trying to<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; debug<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; how to make the "data:" protocol =
(???) hich some gopherpages use<br>
(???) gt; work<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; properly.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; These updates are not available in the bina=
(???) y images yet, I<br>
(???) gt; will make<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; an updated set of binar=
es tomorrow evening<br>
(???) gt; after I get more working.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; :)<b=
(???) ><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM J=
(???) mes Mills<br>
(???) gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Okay... So runnin=
(GIF) from<br>
(???) gt; /Applications/gopher.app/<wbr><wbr>Contents/MacOS works<br>=
(???) &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; $ ./gopher<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I've run into several stack-tr=
(???) ces though (Access<br>
(???) gt; Violation -- pascal<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; days=
(???) coming back to me!)<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; e.g: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db8491=
(UUE) 9e14a8c59" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gist.github.com/<w=
(???) r>5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c<wbr>59</a>"><br>
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(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Also fonts are terrible on OS X (b=
(???) w). I typically use<br>
(???) gt; OS X's buitin<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; access=
bility zoom (because I'm<br>
(???) gt; legally blind) and whatever fonts or<br> &gt; &gt; &=
(GIF) t; &gt; however<br>
(???) gt; content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad<br>=
(???) &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; :(<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cheers<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; James<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; James Mills / prologic<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; E: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; W: <a href=3D&qu=
(???) t;<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
(???) =3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, =
(???) ames Mills<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;<a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; >&gt;<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sorry that was my blindne=
(SND) s there :P You are right<br>
(???) gt; about where it<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
(???) onnects to by default (or<br>
(???) gt; tries to).<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<b=
(???) ><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; But yeah this is totally =
(???) ot working; let me try<br>
(???) gt; to dig in to<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; wh=
(???) ...<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; James Mills / prologic<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; E: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; W: <a<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t;><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9=
(???) 55 PM, Kevin<br>
(???) gt; Veroneau<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &l=
(???) ;<a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt;<br> &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; That's odd, i=
(???) 's currently set to load <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://gopher.veroneau.net" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
(???) target=3D"_blank">http://gopher.veroneau.<wbr>net</a>"> <a href=3D=
(???) http://gopher.veroneau.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gopher.ve=
(???) oneau.net</a></a> by<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; default.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; I haven't see=
(???) the not responding on any of<br>
(???) gt; the platforms I tested<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; it<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; on, not<br>=
(???) br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; sure what's g=
(???) ing on there.&nbsp; I only<br>
(???) gt; noticed a crash if there was<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; no<br>
(???) gt; network<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; available.<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; You can run the b=
nary from a Terminal if you<br>
(???) gt; run it from inside<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(GIF) t;&gt; the Application<br>
(???) gt; bundle.&nbsp; It might display some sort of output<br> &=
(GIF) t; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; there.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; This<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; is my<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; first time buildi=
(???) g an OS X app bundle, so<br>
(???) gt; maybe something in the<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) mp;gt;&gt; plist is<br>
(???) gt; incorrect.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; On Wednesday, Aug=
(???) st 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM<br>
(???) gt; James Mills wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(GIF) t;&gt; &gt; So one major<br>
(???) gt; issue right now )blocker):<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; a) Open =
(???) pp<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; b) It lo=
(???) ds <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://vernica.floodgap.com" rel=3D"noreferrer=
(???) target=3D"_blank">http://vernica.floodgap.<wbr>com</a>"> <a href=
(???) 3D"http://vernica.floodgap.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">verni=
(???) a.floodgap.com</a></a> by default<br>
(???) gt; (fine)<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; c) Spins=
(???) -- Not Responding (not<br>
(???) gt; responsive to GUI events,<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; spinning<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; wheel)<br><=
(???) r>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Looking =
(???) t process stats:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; consiste=
(???) t ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Should I=
(???) just keep waiting? Or is there a<br>
(???) gt; bug?<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &a=
(???) p;gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; cheers&l=
(???) ;br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; James<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; James Mi=
(???) ls / prologic<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; E: <a=
(???) br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &a=
(???) p;gt; W: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t;><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Wed, =
(???) ug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin<br>
(???) gt; Veroneau &lt;<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt;<br> &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br><=
(???) r>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) Cameron,&nbsp; it might be possible<br>
(???) gt; to compile a version for Mac OS<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) mp;gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; X 10.4, looking<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) at the compatibility page, it looks<br>
(???) gt; like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; 1.2.6<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; can<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) build<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) for OS X 10.4.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) lt;br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_=
(???) n_MacOS_X#Com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.freepascal=
(???) <wbr>org/Installing_Lazarus_on_<wbr>MacOS_X#Com</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://wiki.freepascal.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
(???) lank">http://wiki.freepascal.org/</a><<wbr>wbr>Installing_Lazarus_on=
(???) <wbr>MacOS_X#<wbr>Com</a><br>
(???) gt; <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; patibility<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) Once this Gopher client has matured<br>
(???) gt; enough, and you have about<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; an<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; hour to<br>=
(???) br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) spare, you can try installing Xcode<br>
(???) gt; and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; and<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) running the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) compile process.&nbsp; There is only<br>
(???) gt; one Lazarus package needed<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; other than<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) base<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) Lazarus components and that is<br>
(???) gt; TurboPowerIPro which is used<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; for the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; HTML<br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) widget.&nbsp; Even if this isn't<br>
(???) gt; compatible with needed version of<br> &gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Lazarus, we<br=
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) could just replace it with a<br>
(???) gt; different widget.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) On Wednesday, August 24, 2016<br>
(???) gt; 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.=
(???) lt;br> &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) lt;br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; &gt; OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain)<br>
(???) gt; is unable to open the DMG.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; The error is "unrecognized disk image".<br> &=
(???) mp;gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; It doesn't open on 10.4 either,<br>
(???) gt; though I strongly suspect<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.<br> &gt; &gt; &=
(???) mp;gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) br>
(???) gt; ______________________________<wbr><wbr>_________________<br&=
(GIF) t; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Gopher-Project mailing lis=
(???) <br> &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debi=
(???) n.org">Gopher-Project@<wbr>lists.alioth.debian.org</a>"><wbr>Gophe=
(???) -Project@lists.<br>
(???) gt; alioth.<wbr><a href=3D"http://debian.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">debian.org</a></a><br> &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman=
(???) listinfo/goph" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.<w=
(???) r>debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/goph</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
(???) ank">http://lists.alioth.debian</a>.<<wbr>wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/<w=
(???) r>listinfo/<wbr>goph</a><br>
(???) gt; <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; er-project<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
(???) gt; ______________________________<wbr><wbr>_________________<br&=
(GIF) t; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debi=
(???) n.org">Gopher-Project@<wbr>lists.alioth.debian.org</a>"><wbr>Gophe=
(???) -Project@lists.<br>
(???) gt; alioth.<wbr><a href=3D"http://debian.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
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(???) i Kevin,
(???) ot knowing much about Lazarus on OS X; what I don't get is why the font
(???) endering is so terrible? Shouldn't it be using native widgets? Maybe yeah
(???) et's see what effect adding the native font selection dialogue gives us?
(TN3) hanks for caring about the 'lil 'ol blind folks :)
(???) heers
(???) ames
(???) ames Mills / prologic
(???) : prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) : prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???) n Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net> wrote:
(???) Hi James,
(???)
(???) I was thinking of adding a menu to select from various font sizes for
(???) the content. I'll need to see how the tree view could be rendered with a
(???) larger font and see how that effects the icons and general usability.
(???) Lazarus appears to also include access to the OSes native select font
(???) dialogue window, so I can see about making it fully customizable by
(???) including this.
(???)
(???) Thanks for testing it regardless. The next release will for sure
(???) include more accessibility options. Let me know what you think overall.
(???) Networking isn't yet done in a separate thread, so downloading and
(???) accessing resources does still hang the GUI. :( a download manager will
(???) soon be added too.
(???)
(???) Best Regards,
(???) Kevin Veroneau
(???)
(???) Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the
(???) TELUS Network
(???)
(???) Original Message
(???) From:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) Sent:September 1, 2016 11:22 AM
(???) To:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) Reply-to:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client
(???)
(???) Hey Kevin,
(???)
(???) What about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the
(???) fonts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a
(???) vision impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X ->
(???) System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any of
(???) the content in the client :/ Very very blurry :)
(???)
(???) I'll nonetheless test out the latest update though!
(???)
(???) cheers
(???) James
(???)
(???)
(???) James Mills / prologic
(???)
(???) E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???)
(???) On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net>
(???) wrote:
(???) Hello All!
(???)
(???) As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It
(???) seems my
(???) phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize for
(???) that...
(???)
(???) I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email
(???) message...
(???)
(???) This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper right,
(???) just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily search
(???) either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their
(???) page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button!
(???) Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world.
(???)
(???) I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much
(???) much
(???) easier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think.
(???)
(???) Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code,
(???) unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with
(???) the
(???) Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned
(???) for a
(???) PPC build.
(???)
(???) Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher
(???) client,
(???) and am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS complient
(???) OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the YouTube video
(???) once
(???) it completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms
(???)
(???) As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern
(???) and
(???) useful cross-platform gopher client around.
(???)
(???) On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:
(???) > <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy"
(???) content="script-src
(???) > 'self'; img-src * data:;"></head><body style="line-height: initial;
(???) > background-image: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div
(???) > id="response_container" style="outline: none" contenteditable="false">
(???) > <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Hello all;</div><div name="BB10"
(???) > id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10"
(???) > id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> A new update this
(???) > evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what
(???) > you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers. This will
(???) > enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single
(???) > click away! Future updates will also enable the ability to add
(???) > custom searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s
(???) merely
(???) > by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to
(???) > search bar".</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
(???) > 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As
(???) > for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible. Lazarus
(???) > actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler. I will
(???) try
(???) > this out in the new version.</div>
(???) >
(???) > <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%;
(???) > font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro",
(???) > sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial;
(???) > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br
(???) > style="display:initial"></div> <div
(???) > id="blackberry_signature" name="BB10" dir="auto"> <div name="BB10"
(???) > dir="auto" style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent
(???) > from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the TELUS
(???) > Network</div> </div></div><div
(???) > id="_original_msg_header">
(???) >
(???) > <table width="100%" style="border-spacing: 0px; display:
(???) > table; outline: none; background-color: white;" contenteditable="false">
(???) > <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding: initial; font-size: initial;
(???) > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
(???) > <div style="border-right: none; border-bottom: none;
(???) > border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt
(???) > 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, "BB Alpha Sans", "Slate
(???) > Pro"; font-size: 10pt;"> <div
(???) > id="from"><b>From:</b>Barana24@hotmail.com</div><div
(???) > id="sent"><b>Sent:</b>August 29, 2016 4:48 AM</div><div
(???) > id="to"><b>To:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</div><div
(???) > id="reply_to"><b>Reply-to:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) </div>
(???) > <div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher
(???) GUI
(???) > Client</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-right:
(???) > none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid
(???) > rgb(186, 188, 209); display: block; padding: initial; font-size: initial;
(???) > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div> <br>
(???) > </div><!--start of _originalContent --><div name="BB10" dir="auto"
(???) > style="line-height: initial; outline: none; background-image: initial;"
(???) > contenteditable="false">
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > <div dir="ltr">
(???) > <div
(???) > style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#
(???) ffffff;font-family:'
(???) > calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"> <p>you have a tester
(???) > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.<br>
(???) > </p>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )">
(???) > <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%">
(???) > <div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"
(???) face="Calibri,
(???) > sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Gopher-Project
(???) > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >
(???) > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au><br>
(???) > <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM<br>
(???) > <b>To:</b> Gopher Project Discussion<br>
(???) > <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client</font>
(???) > <div> </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <div>
(???) > <div dir="ltr">Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on
(???) the
(???) > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app with
(???) > zoomed in display. <div><br>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <div>:)</div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text"><br clear="all">
(???) > <div>
(???) > <div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) > );font-size:13px"><br> <font face="arial, sans-serif">James Mills /
(???) > prologic</font><br>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <font face="arial, sans-serif"></font><font face="'courier new',
(???) > monospace">E: <a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au"
(???) > style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) > )">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span> <div><span
(???) > style="font-family:'courier new' , monospace;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) > );font-size:13px">W: </span><a
(???) > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style="font-family:'courier
(???) > new' , monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) > )">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br> </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <br>
(???) > <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text">On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at
(???) > 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir="ltr"> <<a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span>
(???) > wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
(???) > solid;padding-left:1ex"> That's great to hear. :) I have a new
(???) > update which I released into the source<br> repo, but not all the
(???) binaries
(???) > are updated yet as I need to go through all my<br> development
(???) > environments here to build the project and upload them into my<br>
(???) > Gopherspace.<br>
(???) > <br>
(???) > Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start
(???) > doing<br> work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font
(???) > sizes and a<br> proper threaded download manager. :)<br>
(???) > <div>
(???) > <div><br>
(???) > On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:<br>
(???) > > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more
(???) > "hanging".<br> ><br>
(???) > > Fonts are still very blurred though :)<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > W: <a href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau <<a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) > > > A REALLY BIG update!<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the
(???) > latest<br> > > versions<br>
(???) > > > as well.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > *** What's new ***<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * Full Bookmark support! Bookmarks are saved
(???) > into a local file in<br> > > Gopher<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > Menu format. So if you know the Gopher protocol, you can
(???) > edit the<br> > > bookmark file.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and
(???) > binary.<br> > > * Ability to save the image you are
(???) > viewing to your local<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > disk(Right-click<br>
(???) > > > menu).<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to
(???) local
(???) > disk,<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > Text/Image/Binary<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes
(???) in
(???) > the tree view.<br> > > * Updated icons, taken from the
(???) > Emerald GPL iconset.<br> > > * You can now resize the
(???) > middle divider.<br> > > * Many bug fixes and improved
(???) > stability.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large binary
(???) > files on a slow<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > connection<br>
(???) > > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the
(???) background
(???) > isn't<br> > > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > Attached is a screenshot from my Linux
(???) workstation, I
(???) > tried to snapshot<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > the<br>
(???) > > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot
(???) doesn't
(???) > do that.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > Anyways, let me know what you think of this update
(???) > and the project<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > overall.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau
(???) > wrote:<br> > > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that
(???) > Access Violation, I had<br> > > > that problem during initial
(???) > development which ended up slowing down<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > development.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > I will look further into that.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > Font options would be something I will definately look
(???) > into.<br> > > ><br>
(???) > > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h, so
(???) > now<br> > > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most gopherholes
(???) which
(???) > use the search<br> > > > type. Initial support for the 'h'
(???) > type has also been added, however I<br> > > > am trying to<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > debug<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages
(???) use
(???) > work<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > properly.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > These updates are not available in the binary images yet,
(???) I
(???) > will make<br> > > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow evening
(???) > after I get more working.<br> > > > :)<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills
(???) > wrote:<br> > > > > Okay... So running from
(???) > /Applications/gopher.app/<wbr>Contents/MacOS works<br> > > >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > > $ ./gopher<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access
(???) > Violation -- pascal<br> > > > > days coming back to me!)<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > e.g: <a
(???) > href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59">
(???) > https://gist.github.com/<wbr>5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c
(???) <wbr>59</a><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically
(???) use
(???) > OS X's buitin<br> > > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm
(???) > legally blind) and whatever fonts or<br> > > > > however
(???) > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad<br> >
(???) >
(???) > > > :(<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > > James<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > > > > W: <a href="http://prologic.
(???) shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills<br>
(???) > > > > > <<a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > >><br> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are
(???) right
(???) > about where it<br> > > > > > connects to by default (or
(???) > tries to).<br> > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me try
(???) > to dig in to<br> > > > > > why...<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > > > > > W: <a
(???) > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin
(???) > Veroneau<br> > > > > > <<a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> >
(???) >
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load <a
(???) > href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net</a> by<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > default.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any of
(???) > the platforms I tested<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > it<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> on, not<br>
(???) > > > > > >> sure what's going on there. I only
(???) > noticed a crash if there was<br> > > > > >> no
(???) > network<br>
(???) > > > > > >> available.<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if
(???) you
(???) > run it from inside<br> > > > > >> the Application
(???) > bundle. It might display some sort of output<br> > > >
(???) >
(???) > >> there.<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > This<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> is my<br>
(???) > > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so
(???) > maybe something in the<br> > > > > >> plist is
(???) > incorrect.<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM
(???) > James Mills wrote:<br> > > > > >> > So one major
(???) > issue right now )blocker):<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > a) Open App<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > b) It loads <a
(???) > href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com</a> by default
(???) > (fine)<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not
(???) > responsive to GUI events,<br> > > > > >> >
(???) > spinning<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> wheel)<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2
(???) threads<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is
(???) there a
(???) > bug?<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > James<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > E: <a
(???) > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) </a
(???) > ><br> > > > > >> > W: <a
(???) > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin
(???) > Veroneau <<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > Cameron, it might be
(???) possible
(???) > to compile a version for Mac OS<br> > > > > >> >
(???) >
(???) > X 10.4, looking<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it
(???) looks
(???) > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > 1.2.6<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> can<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > build<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > <a
(???) > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com">
(???) > http://wiki.freepascal.org/<wbr>Installing_Lazarus_on_
(???) MacOS_X#<wbr>Com</a>
(???) > <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> patibility<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has
(???) matured
(???) > enough, and you have about<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > an<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> hour to<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing
(???) Xcode
(???) > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > and<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > running the<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > compile process. There is
(???) only
(???) > one Lazarus package needed<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > other than<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> the<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > base<br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is
(???) > TurboPowerIPro which is used<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > for the<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> HTML<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > widget. Even if this isn't
(???) > compatible with needed version of<br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> Lazarus, we<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a
(???) > different widget.<br> > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016
(???) > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:<br> > > > > >> >
(???) > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.<br> > >
(???) > > > >> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El
(???) Captain)
(???) > is unable to open the DMG.<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) >
(???) > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".<br> > > > >
(???) > >> > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4
(???) either,
(???) > though I strongly suspect<br> > > > > >> > > >
(???) > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.<br> > > > > >>
(???) >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > > > >> > >
(???) > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br> > > >
(???) > > >> > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> > > <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>goph</a>
(???) > <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >> er-project<br>
(???) > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > >>
(???) > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > > >> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > > >> <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/</a><br>
(???) >
(???) > ><br>
(???) > > > gopher-project<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) > ct">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) > roject</a><br> > ><br>
(???) > > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) > ct">
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) > roject</a><br> <br>
(???) > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > <a
(???) > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> <a
(???) > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) > ct">http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) listinfo/<wbr>gophe
(???) > r-project</a><br> </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </blockquote>
(???) > </div>
(???) > <br>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
(???) > </div>
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div><br></div><div>Not knowing much about Lazaru=
(SND) on OS X; what I don't get is why the font rendering is so terrible? S=
(HTM) ouldn't it be using native widgets? Maybe yeah let's see what effe=
(???) t adding the native font selection dialogue gives us?</div><div><br></div>=
(???) div>Thanks for caring about the 'lil 'ol blind folks :)</div><div>=
(???) br></div><div>cheers</div><div>James</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
(???) <br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gm=
(???) il_signature"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,13=
(UUE) );font-size:13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prolo=
(GIF) ic</font><br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=3D"=
(BIN) ;courier new', monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcirc=
(???) it.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortci=
(???) cuit.net.au</a></font></span><div><span style=3D"font-family:'courier =
(???) ew',monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a=
(???) href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family:'cou=
(???) ier new',monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank=
(???) >prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></div></div>
(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Kevin Veron=
(???) au <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net" target=3D"_=
(???) lank">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
(???) :1ex">Hi James,<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 I was thinking of adding a menu to select from various font sizes fo=
(???) the content.=C2=A0 I'll need to see how the tree view could be render=
(???) d with a larger font and see how that effects the icons and general usabil=
ty.=C2=A0 Lazarus appears to also include access to the OSes native select=
(???) font dialogue window, so I can see about making it fully customizable by i=
(???) cluding this.<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 Thanks for testing it regardless.=C2=A0 The next release will for su=
(???) e include more accessibility options.=C2=A0 Let me know what you think ove=
(???) all.=C2=A0 Networking isn't yet done in a separate thread, so download=
ng and accessing resources does still hang the GUI. :(=C2=A0 a download ma=
(???) ager will soon be added too.<br>
(???) br>
(???) est Regards,<br>
(???) C2=A0 Kevin Veroneau<br>
(???) span class=3D""><br>
(???) ent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the TELU=
(???) Network<br>
(???) br>
(???) /span>=C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:From%3Aprologic@shortcircuit.net.au">From:prologic@shortc=
rcuit.<wbr>net.au</a><br>
(???) ent:September 1, 2016 11:22 AM<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:To%3Agopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org">To:gopher-pr=
(???) ject@lists.<wbr>alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Reply-to%3Agopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Reply-=
(???) o:gopher-project@lists.<wbr>alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) ubject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client<br>
(???) div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
(???) ey Kevin,<br>
(???) br>
(???) hat about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the f=
(???) nts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a vi=
(SND) ion impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X -> Syst=
(???) m Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read =
(???) ny of the content in the client :/ Very very blurry :)<br>
(???) br>
(IMG) 'll nonetheless test out the latest update though!<br>
(???) br>
(???) heers<br>
(???) ames<br>
(???) br>
(???) br>
(???) ames Mills / prologic<br>
(???) br>
(???) :=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircu=
t.net.<wbr>au</a><br>
(???) :=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
(???) arget=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) n Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau <<a href=3D"mailto:kevin=
(???) veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) ello All!<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 As promised there is a new update which adds many new features.=C2=
(???) A0 It seems my<br>
(PNG) hone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apolog=
ze for<br>
(???) hat...<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain emai=
(???) message...<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper r=
ght,<br>
(???) ust like Firefox and Mozilla browser products.=C2=A0 Now you can easily se=
(???) rch<br>
(???) ither Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to bookmark their=
(???) br>
(PNG) age or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and hit the button!<b=
(???) >
(???) orks like magic and brings modern browser search to the gopher world.<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be mu=
(???) h much<br>
(???) asier to read and use.=C2=A0 :)=C2=A0 Let me know what you think.<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code,<=
(???) r>
(???) nfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile.=C2=A0 I will be workin=
(GIF) with the<br>
(???) azarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned for=
(???) a<br>
(???) PC build.<br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher=
(???) client,<br>
(???) nd am uploading it to YouTube now.=C2=A0 I will also upload the FLOSS comp=
(???) ient<br>
(???) GV file into my Gopherspace soon as well.=C2=A0 You can find the YouTube v=
deo once<br>
t completes here:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) C2=A0 As always, any feedback is great.=C2=A0 I want to make this the most=
(???) modern and<br>
(???) seful cross-platform gopher client around.<br>
(???) br>
(???) n Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:<br>
(???) gt; <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Security-<=
(???) br>Policy" content=3D"script-src<br>
(???) gt; 'self'; img-src * data:;"></head><body style=
(???) 3D"line-height: initial;<br>
(???) gt; background-image: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"=
(???) gt;<div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"response_container" style=3D"outline: none" =
(???) ontenteditable=3D"false"><br>
(???) gt; <div name=3D"BB10" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"w=
dth: 100%; font-size: initial;<br>
(???) gt; font-family: Calibri, &quot;Slate Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-=
(SND) erif;<br>
(???) gt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;<br>
(???) gt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Hello all;</div>=
(???) lt;div name=3D"BB10"<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto" style=3D&quo=
(???) ;width: 100%; font-size: initial;<br>
(???) gt; font-family: Calibri, &quot;Slate Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-=
(SND) erif;<br>
(???) gt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;<br>
(???) gt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div>&=
(???) t;div name=3D"BB10"<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto" style=3D&quo=
(???) ;width: 100%; font-size: initial;<br>
(???) gt; font-family: Calibri, &quot;Slate Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-=
(SND) erif;<br>
(???) gt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;<br>
(???) gt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">&nbsp; A new update=
(???) this<br>
(???) gt; evening(within the next 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to w=
(HTM) at<br>
(???) gt; you see on the infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers. &nbsp;This w=
ll<br>
(???) gt; enable quick searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a sing=
(???) e<br>
(???) gt; click away! &nbsp;Future updates will also enable the ability to a=
(DOC) d<br>
(???) gt; custom searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s me=
(???) ely<br>
(???) gt; by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add=
(???) to<br>
(???) gt; search bar".</div><div name=3D"BB10" id=3D&quo=
(???) ;BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto"<br>
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(???) mp;quot;Slate<br>
(???) gt; Pro&quot;, sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); paddin=
(GIF) :<br>
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(???) gt; 255);"><br></div><div name=3D"BB10" i=
(DOC) =3D"BB10_response_div" dir=3D"auto"<br>
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(???) t;>As<br>
(???) gt; for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's entirely possible. &n=
(???) sp;Lazarus<br>
(???) gt; actually comes on OS X with this ability in the compiler. &nbsp;I =
(???) ill try<br>
(???) gt; this out in the new version.</div><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&l=
(???) ;div name=3D"BB10" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"width: 1=
(TXT) 0%;<br>
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(???) t;br<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"display:initial"></div><wbr>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
(???) A0 =C2=A0 <div<br>
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(???) ot;auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<div name=3D"BB10"<br>
(???) gt; dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-size: initial; font-family: =
(???) alibri, &quot;Slate<br>
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(???) uot;Slate<br>
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(???) gt; id=3D"from"><b>From:</b><a href=3D"mailto:Bar=
(???) na24@hotmail.com">Barana24<wbr>@hotmail.com</a></div><div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"sent"><b>Sent:</b>August 29, 2016 4:48 =
(???) M</div><div<br>
(???) gt; id=3D"to"><b>To:</b><a href=3D"mailto:gopher-=
(PNG) roject@lists.alioth.debian.org">gopher-<wbr>project@lists.alioth.debian.<w=
(???) r>org</a></div><div<br>
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lto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org"><wbr>gopher-project@lists.alio=
(???) h.<wbr>debian.org</a></div><br>
(???) gt; <div id=3D"subject"><b>Subject:</b><wbr>Re=
(???) [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI<br>
(???) gt; Client</div></div></td></tr></<wbr>tbody>=
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(???) gt; <div<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#<wbr>000000;background-color:#<wbr=
(???) ffffff;font-family:'<br>
(???) gt; calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"=
(???) > <p>you have a tester<br>
(???) gt; waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.<br><br>
(???) gt; </p><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <div style=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )"><br>
(???) gt; <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;<wbr>width:98%"><br>
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(???) quot; color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri,<br>
(???) gt; sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Gopher-Project<br>
(???) gt; &lt;gopher-project-bounces+<wbr>barana24=3D<a href=3D"mailto:hotma=
l.com@lists.alioth.debian.org">hotmail.com@lists.<wbr>alioth.debian.org</a=
(???) &gt<br>
(???) gt; ; on behalf of James Mills &<a href=3D"mailto:lt%3Bprologic@shortc=
rcuit.net.au">lt;prologic@shortcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a>&gt;<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM<br><br>
(???) gt; <b>To:</b> Gopher Project Discussion<br><br>
(???) gt; <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI=
(???) Client</font><br>
(???) gt; <div>&nbsp;</div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <div><br>
(???) gt; <div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macboo=
(???) with OS X turn on the<br>
(???) gt; Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app wi=
(???) h<br>
(???) gt; zoomed in display. <div><br><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <div>:)</div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"elided-text&=
(???) uot;><br clear=3D"all"><br>
(???) gt; <div><br>
(???) gt; <div><span style=3D"border-collapse:<wbr>collapse;color:=
(???) gb( 136 , 136 , 136<br>
(???) gt; );font-size:13px"><br> <font face=3D"arial, sans=
(???) serif">James Mills /<br>
(???) gt; prologic</font><br><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font=
(???) face=3D"'courier new',<br>
(???) gt; monospace">E:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"ma=
lto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t;<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204<br>
(???) gt; )"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@sh=
(???) rtcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a></a></font></span> <div>&=
(???) t;span<br>
(???) gt; style=3D"font-family:'courier new' , monospace;color:rgb(=
(???) 136 , 136 , 136<br>
(???) gt; );font-size:13px">W:&nbsp;</<wbr>span><a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t; style=3D"font-family:'courier<br>
(???) gt; new' , monospace;font-size:13px;<wbr>color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204<br>
(???) gt; )"><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"nore=
(???) errer" target=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.<wbr>au</a></a>&l=
(???) ;br> </div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; <div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"elided-text&=
(???) uot;>On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at<br>
(???) gt; 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir=3D"ltr"> &lt;<=
(???) a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt;</span><br>
(???) gt; wrote:<br> <blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;borde=
(???) -left:1px #ccc<br>
(???) gt; solid;padding-left:1ex"> That's great to hear. :)&nbsp=
(???) I have a new<br>
(???) gt; update which I released into the source<br> repo, but not all th=
(???) binaries<br>
(???) gt; are updated yet as I need to go through all my<br> development<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; environments here to build the project and upload them into my<br&g=
(???) ;<br>
(???) gt; Gopherspace.<br><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
(???) gt; Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start=
(???) br>
(???) gt; doing<br> work on the usability and accessible functions, such a=
(SND) font<br>
(???) gt; sizes and a<br> proper threaded download manager. :)<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; <div><br>
(???) gt; <div><br><br>
(???) gt; On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:<br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more=
(???) br>
(???) gt; "hanging".<br> &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; Fonts are still very blurred though :)<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; James Mills / prologic<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; E: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; W: <a href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prolog=
c.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologi=
(???) .<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau &lt;<a=
(???) br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt; wrote:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; A REALLY BIG update!<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been update=
(DOC) to the<br>
(???) gt; latest<br> &gt; &gt; versions<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; as well.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; *** What's new ***<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Full Bookmark support!&nbs=
(PNG) ; Bookmarks are saved<br>
(???) gt; into a local file in<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;G=
(???) pher<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; Menu format.&nbsp; So if you know the Gopher pro=
(???) ocol, you can<br>
(???) gt; edit the<br> &gt; &gt; bookmark file.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Support for many more GopherTy=
(PNG) es, search, and<br>
(???) gt; binary.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Ability to s=
(???) ve the image you are<br>
(???) gt; viewing to your local<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; disk(Right-click<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; menu).<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Ability to download supported =
(???) opherTypes to local<br>
(???) gt; disk,<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; Text/Image/Binary<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* You can now close previously o=
(PNG) ened GopherNodes in<br>
(???) gt; the tree view.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Updat=
(???) d icons, taken from the<br>
(???) gt; Emerald GPL iconset.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;*=
(???) You can now resize the<br>
(???) gt; middle divider.<br> &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;* Many=
(???) bug fixes and improved<br>
(???) gt; stability.<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;I wouldn't recommend downloa=
(DOC) ing uber large binary<br>
(???) gt; files on a slow<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; connection<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; as threading AKA a download manager which runs in th=
(???) background<br>
(???) gt; isn't<br> &gt; &gt; yet implemented, so downloads do=
(???) hang the GUI.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;Attached is a screenshot from my=
(???) Linux workstation, I<br>
(???) gt; tried to snapshot<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnap=
(SND) hot doesn't<br>
(???) gt; do that.<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;Anyways, let me know what you th=
nk of this update<br>
(???) gt; and the project<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; overall.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Vero=
(???) eau<br>
(???) gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hmm, not entirely sure wha=
(???) is causing that<br>
(???) gt; Access Violation, I had<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; that prob=
(???) em during initial<br>
(???) gt; development which ended up slowing down<br> &gt; &gt;<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; development.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; I will look further into that.<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Font options would be something I will defi=
(???) ately look<br>
(???) gt; into.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I updated the Source code to enable GopherT=
(???) pe 7 and h, so<br>
(???) gt; now<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; Veronica-2 works, as well as =
(???) ost gopherholes which<br>
(???) gt; use the search<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; type.&nbsp; In=
tial support for the 'h'<br>
(???) gt; type has also been added, however I<br> &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; am trying to<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; debug<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; how to make the "data:" protocol =
(???) hich some gopherpages use<br>
(???) gt; work<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; properly.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; These updates are not available in the bina=
(???) y images yet, I<br>
(???) gt; will make<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; an updated set of binar=
es tomorrow evening<br>
(???) gt; after I get more working.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; :)<b=
(???) ><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM J=
(???) mes Mills<br>
(???) gt; wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Okay... So runnin=
(GIF) from<br>
(???) gt; /Applications/gopher.app/<wbr><wbr>Contents/MacOS works<br>=
(???) &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; $ ./gopher<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I've run into several stack-tr=
(???) ces though (Access<br>
(???) gt; Violation -- pascal<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; days=
(???) coming back to me!)<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; e.g: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db8491=
(UUE) 9e14a8c59" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://gist.github.com/<w=
(???) r>5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c<wbr>59</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"https://gist.github.com/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
(???) k">https://gist.github.com/</a><wbr><wbr>5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14=
(???) 8c<wbr><wbr>59</a><br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Also fonts are terrible on OS X (b=
(???) w). I typically use<br>
(???) gt; OS X's buitin<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; access=
bility zoom (because I'm<br>
(???) gt; legally blind) and whatever fonts or<br> &gt; &gt; &=
(GIF) t; &gt; however<br>
(???) gt; content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad<br>=
(???) &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; :(<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cheers<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; James<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; James Mills / prologic<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; E: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; W: <a href=3D&qu=
(???) t;<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
(???) =3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, =
(???) ames Mills<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &lt;<a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; >&gt;<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sorry that was my blindne=
(SND) s there :P You are right<br>
(???) gt; about where it<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =
(???) onnects to by default (or<br>
(???) gt; tries to).<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<b=
(???) ><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; But yeah this is totally =
(???) ot working; let me try<br>
(???) gt; to dig in to<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; wh=
(???) ...<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; James Mills / prologic<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; E: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; W: <a<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t;><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9=
(???) 55 PM, Kevin<br>
(???) gt; Veroneau<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &l=
(???) ;<a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt;<br> &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; wrote:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; That's odd, i=
(???) 's currently set to load <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://gopher.veroneau.net" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
(???) target=3D"_blank">http://gopher.veroneau.<wbr>net</a>"> <a href=3D=
(???) http://gopher.veroneau.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gopher.ve=
(???) oneau.net</a></a> by<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; default.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; I haven't see=
(???) the not responding on any of<br>
(???) gt; the platforms I tested<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; it<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; on, not<br>=
(???) br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; sure what's g=
(???) ing on there.&nbsp; I only<br>
(???) gt; noticed a crash if there was<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; no<br>
(???) gt; network<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; available.<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; You can run the b=
nary from a Terminal if you<br>
(???) gt; run it from inside<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(GIF) t;&gt; the Application<br>
(???) gt; bundle.&nbsp; It might display some sort of output<br> &=
(GIF) t; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; there.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; This<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; is my<br><b=
(???) >
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; first time buildi=
(???) g an OS X app bundle, so<br>
(???) gt; maybe something in the<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) mp;gt;&gt; plist is<br>
(???) gt; incorrect.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; On Wednesday, Aug=
(???) st 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM<br>
(???) gt; James Mills wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(GIF) t;&gt; &gt; So one major<br>
(???) gt; issue right now )blocker):<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; a) Open =
(???) pp<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; b) It lo=
(???) ds <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://vernica.floodgap.com" rel=3D"noreferrer=
(???) target=3D"_blank">http://vernica.floodgap.<wbr>com</a>"> <a href=
(???) 3D"http://vernica.floodgap.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">verni=
(???) a.floodgap.com</a></a> by default<br>
(???) gt; (fine)<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; c) Spins=
(???) -- Not Responding (not<br>
(???) gt; responsive to GUI events,<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; spinning<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; wheel)<br><=
(???) r>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Looking =
(???) t process stats:<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; consiste=
(???) t ~2.7% CPU util, 2 threads<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Should I=
(???) just keep waiting? Or is there a<br>
(???) gt; bug?<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &a=
(???) p;gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; cheers&l=
(???) ;br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; James<=
(???) br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; James Mi=
(???) ls / prologic<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; E: <a=
(???) br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">pr=
(???) logic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sho=
(???) tcircuit.net.au">prologic@<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a></a<br>
(???) gt; ><br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &a=
(???) p;gt; W: <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"no=
(???) eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://prologic.<wbr>shortcircuit.net.au</a>&qu=
(???) t;><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a></<wbr>a><br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>=
(???) <br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Wed, =
(???) ug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Kevin<br>
(???) gt; Veroneau &lt;<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.<wbr>net</a>"><a href=3D"mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@verone=
(???) u.net</a></a>&<wbr>gt;<br> &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br><=
(???) r>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) Cameron,&nbsp; it might be possible<br>
(???) gt; to compile a version for Mac OS<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) mp;gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; X 10.4, looking<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) at the compatibility page, it looks<br>
(???) gt; like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; 1.2.6<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; can<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) build<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) for OS X 10.4.<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) lt;br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_=
(???) n_MacOS_X#Com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.freepascal=
(???) <wbr>org/Installing_Lazarus_on_<wbr>MacOS_X#Com</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://wiki.freepascal.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
(???) lank">http://wiki.freepascal.org/</a><<wbr>wbr>Installing_Lazarus_on=
(???) <wbr>MacOS_X#<wbr>Com</a><br>
(???) gt; <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; patibility<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) Once this Gopher client has matured<br>
(???) gt; enough, and you have about<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; an<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; hour to<br>=
(???) br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) spare, you can try installing Xcode<br>
(???) gt; and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4<br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; and<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) running the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) compile process.&nbsp; There is only<br>
(???) gt; one Lazarus package needed<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; other than<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) base<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) Lazarus components and that is<br>
(???) gt; TurboPowerIPro which is used<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &=
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; for the<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; HTML<br><br=
(???)
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) widget.&nbsp; Even if this isn't<br>
(???) gt; compatible with needed version of<br> &gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Lazarus, we<br=
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) could just replace it with a<br>
(???) gt; different widget.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ;&gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) On Wednesday, August 24, 2016<br>
(???) gt; 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.=
(???) lt;br> &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) lt;br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; &gt; OS X 10.11.6 (El Captain)<br>
(???) gt; is unable to open the DMG.<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &g=
(???) ; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; The error is "unrecognized disk image".<br> &=
(???) mp;gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) &gt; It doesn't open on 10.4 either,<br>
(???) gt; though I strongly suspect<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.<br> &gt; &gt; &=
(???) mp;gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt;=
(???) br>
(???) gt; ______________________________<wbr><wbr>_________________<br&=
(GIF) t; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Gopher-Project mailing lis=
(???) <br> &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debi=
(???) n.org">Gopher-Project@<wbr>lists.alioth.debian.org</a>"><wbr>Gophe=
(???) -Project@lists.<br>
(???) gt; alioth.<wbr><a href=3D"http://debian.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">debian.org</a></a><br> &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman=
(???) listinfo/goph" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.<w=
(???) r>debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/goph</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
(???) ank">http://lists.alioth.debian</a>.<<wbr>wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/<w=
(???) r>listinfo/<wbr>goph</a><br>
(???) gt; <br> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; er-project<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
(???) gt; ______________________________<wbr><wbr>_________________<br&=
(GIF) t; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debi=
(???) n.org">Gopher-Project@<wbr>lists.alioth.debian.org</a>"><wbr>Gophe=
(???) -Project@lists.<br>
(???) gt; alioth.<wbr><a href=3D"http://debian.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">debian.org</a></a><br> &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) &gt; &gt;&gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman=
(???) listinfo/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.<wbr>d=
(???) bian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/</a>"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
(???) ank">http://lists.alioth.debian</a>.<<wbr>wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/<w=
(???) r>listinfo/</a><br> &gt;<br>
(???) gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; gopher-project<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ______________________________<wbr><wbr&=
(GIF) t;_________________<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debi=
(???) n.org">Gopher-Project@<wbr>lists.alioth.debian.org</a>"><wbr>Gophe=
(???) -Project@lists.<br>
(???) gt; alioth.<wbr><a href=3D"http://debian.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">debian.org</a></a><br> &gt; &gt; &gt=
(???) <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman=
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.a=
(???) ioth.<wbr>debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gopher-proje</a><br>
(???) gt; ct"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
(???) ank">http://lists.alioth.debian</a>.<<wbr>wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/<w=
(???) r>listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p<br>
(???) gt; roject</a><br> &gt; &gt;<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; ______________________________<wbr><wbr>______=
(???) __________<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br><br>
(???) gt; &gt; &gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debi=
(???) n.org">Gopher-Project@<wbr>lists.alioth.debian.org</a>"><wbr>Gophe=
(???) -Project@lists.<br>
(???) gt; alioth.<wbr><a href=3D"http://debian.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">debian.org</a></a><br> &gt; &gt; <a<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman=
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.a=
(???) ioth.<wbr>debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gopher-proje</a><br>
(???) gt; ct"><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
(???) ank">http://lists.alioth.debian</a>.<<wbr>wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/<w=
(???) r>listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p<br>
(???) gt; roject</a><br> <br><br>
(???) gt; ______________________________<wbr><wbr>_________________<br&=
(GIF) t;<br>
(???) gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br><br>
(???) gt; <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debi=
(???) n.org">Gopher-Project@<wbr>lists.alioth.debian.org</a>"><wbr>Gophe=
(???) -Project@lists.<br>
(???) gt; alioth.<wbr><a href=3D"http://debian.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
(GIF) et=3D"_blank">debian.org</a></a><br> <a<br>
(???) gt; href=3D"<a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman=
(???) listinfo/gopher-proje" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.a=
(???) ioth.<wbr>debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gopher-proje</a><br>
(???) gt; ct"><a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
(???) arget=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian</a><wbr>.<wbr>org/cgi-bi=
(???) /mailman/<wbr>listinfo/<wbr>gophe<br>
(???) gt; r-project</a><br> </div><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; </blockquote><br>
(???) gt; </div><br>
(???) gt; <br><br>
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(???) ello all!
(???) This morning marks yet another update to my Gopher client. This update
ncludes a new font selector, which uses the OSes native font dialog. I
(???) onfirmed that the font does change on Linux/OSX/Win10. This should help out
(???) ith any accessibility, the tree also respects this font choice as well. You
(???) an find it under the "Options" menu.
(???) This update also includes a proper threaded download manager! Yay! Now you
(???) an download files and images from Gopherspace, and a download manager window
(???) ill appear to display the progress.
(???) There is also initial support for rendering Gopher menu items in the HTML
(PNG) ane. Previously when the Gopher menu was rendered, menu items were not
(???) lickable. With this update, you can browser gopher just as you would in a
(???) on-tree gopher browser. This support is experimental, so there might be
(???) ugs, and not all gopher menu items will work through this mode. This is more
(???) r less so that when you view a gopher menu, you can tell what items are 'i'
tems, and which ones are gopher items.
(???) As usual, the updated binary files and source code can be found on my
(???) opherSpace, and the source code repository on my BitBucket page has also been
(???) pdated with the source code changes.
(???) There is still much work to be had, but thus far this Gopher client is
(SND) haping into something great and very fun to work on during my pass time.
(???) est Regards,
(???) Kevin Veroneau
(???) n Thursday, September 01, 2016 06:34:49 PM James Mills wrote:
(???) Hi Kevin,
(???)
(???) Not knowing much about Lazarus on OS X; what I don't get is why the font
(???) rendering is so terrible? Shouldn't it be using native widgets? Maybe yeah
(???) let's see what effect adding the native font selection dialogue gives us?
(???)
(???) Thanks for caring about the 'lil 'ol blind folks :)
(???)
(???) cheers
(???) James
(???)
(???)
(???) James Mills / prologic
(???)
(???) E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???)
(???) On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net> wrote:
(???) > Hi James,
(???) >
(???) > I was thinking of adding a menu to select from various font sizes for
(???) >
(???) > the content. I'll need to see how the tree view could be rendered with a
(???) > larger font and see how that effects the icons and general usability.
(???) > Lazarus appears to also include access to the OSes native select font
(???) > dialogue window, so I can see about making it fully customizable by
(???) > including this.
(???) >
(???) > Thanks for testing it regardless. The next release will for sure
(???) >
(???) > include more accessibility options. Let me know what you think overall.
(???) > Networking isn't yet done in a separate thread, so downloading and
(???) > accessing resources does still hang the GUI. :( a download manager will
(???) > soon be added too.
(???) >
(???) > Best Regards,
(???) >
(???) > Kevin Veroneau
(???) >
(???) > Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device - via the
(???) > TELUS Network
(???) >
(???) > Original Message
(???) >
(???) > From:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) > Sent:September 1, 2016 11:22 AM
(???) > To:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > Reply-to:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > Subject:Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI Client
(???) >
(???) > Hey Kevin,
(???) >
(???) > What about decent accessibility support? :) By that I simply mean how the
(???) > fonts are being rendered or the fonts themselves make it quite hard for a
(???) > vision impaired person such as myself to use! When zoomed in (OS X ->
(???) > System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Zoom) it's quite hard to read any
(???) > of the content in the client :/ Very very blurry :)
(???) >
(???) > I'll nonetheless test out the latest update though!
(???) >
(???) > cheers
(???) > James
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > James Mills / prologic
(???) >
(???) > E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) > W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???) >
(???) > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Kevin Veroneau <kevin@veroneau.net>
(???) > wrote:
(???) > Hello All!
(???) >
(???) > As promised there is a new update which adds many new features. It
(???) >
(???) > seems my
(???) > phone's email client doesn't properly send email messages, I apologize
(???) > for that...
(???) >
(???) > I'll bring up the new updates again in this more text/plain email
(???) >
(???) > message...
(???) >
(???) > This new version now sports a customizable search bar on the upper
(???) > right,
(???) >
(???) > just like Firefox and Mozilla browser products. Now you can easily
(???) > search either Veronica-2 or Gopherpedia directly without needing to
(???) > bookmark their page or navigate gopherspace -- Just enter your query and
(???) > hit the button! Works like magic and brings modern browser search to the
(???) > gopher world.
(???) >
(???) > I also updated the default font size on OS X, so now it should be much
(???) >
(???) > much
(???) > easier to read and use. :) Let me know what you think.
(???) >
(???) > Lazarus for OS X does support cross-compiling into PPC object code,
(???) >
(???) > unfortunately when I did try, it didn't compile. I will be working with
(???) > the
(???) > Lazarus forums for help on getting it to compile for PPC, so stay tuned
(???) > for a
(???) > PPC build.
(???) >
(???) > Today I also took a few minutes to create a demo video of the Gopher
(???) >
(???) > client,
(???) > and am uploading it to YouTube now. I will also upload the FLOSS
(???) > complient OGV file into my Gopherspace soon as well. You can find the
(???) > YouTube video once
(???) > it completes here: https://youtu.be/NnQjtkfz5Ms
(???) >
(???) > As always, any feedback is great. I want to make this the most modern
(???) >
(???) > and
(???) > useful cross-platform gopher client around.
(???) >
(???) > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:30:27 PM Kevin Veroneau wrote:
(???) > > <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy"
(???) >
(???) > content="script-src
(???) >
(???) > > 'self'; img-src * data:;"></head><body style="line-height: initial;
(???) > > background-image: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div
(???) > > id="response_container" style="outline: none" contenteditable="false">
(???) > > <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; font-size: initial;
(???) > > font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif;
(???) > > color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial;
(???) > > background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Hello all;</div><div
(???) > > name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto" style="width: 100%;
(???) > > font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro",
(???) > > sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial;
(???) > > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
(???) > > 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) > > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri,
(???) > > "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
(???) > > 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color:
(???) > > rgb(255, 255, 255);"> A new update this evening(within the next
(???) > > 5 hours) will enable a search bar similar to what you see on the
(???) > > infamous Firefox and Mozilla browsers. This will enable quick
(???) > > searching of Gopherspace and Gopherpedia with just a single click
(???) > > away! Future updates will also enable the ability to add custom
(???) > > searches to this box for your other favourite gopher type 7s
(???) >
(???) > merely
(???) >
(???) > > by right-clicking a gopher type 7 in the tree view and click "Add to
(???) > > search bar".</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) > > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri,
(???) > > "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
(???) > > 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color:
(???) > > rgb(255, 255,
(???) > > 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div" dir="auto"
(???) > > style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri,
(???) > > "Slate Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
(???) > > 125); padding: initial; text-align: initial; background-color:
(???) > > rgb(255, 255, 255);">As for OS X PPC support, it seems that it's
(???) > > entirely possible. Lazarus actually comes on OS X with this
(???) > > ability in the compiler. I will
(???) >
(???) > try
(???) >
(???) > > this out in the new version.</div>
(???) > >
(???) > > <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%;
(???) > >
(???) > > font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate Pro",
(???) > > sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding: initial;
(???) > > text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br
(???) > > style="display:initial"></div> <div
(???) > > id="blackberry_signature" name="BB10" dir="auto"> <div name="BB10"
(???) > > dir="auto" style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, "Slate
(???) > > Pro", sans-serif, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); padding:
(???) > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
(???) > > 255);">Sent from my BlackBerry Priv - the most secure mobile device -
(???) > > via the TELUS Network</div>
(???) > > </div></div><div id="_original_msg_header">
(???) > >
(???) > > <table width="100%" style="border-spacing: 0px;
(DOC) isplay:
(???) > > table; outline: none; background-color: white;"
(???) > > contenteditable="false"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding:
(???) > > initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color:
(???) > > rgb(255, 255, 255);">
(???) > >
(???) > > <div style="border-right: none; border-bottom: none;
(???) > >
(???) > > border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding:
(???) > > 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, "BB Alpha Sans",
(???) > > "Slate Pro"; font-size: 10pt;"> <div
(???) > > id="from"><b>From:</b>Barana24@hotmail.com</div><div
(???) > > id="sent"><b>Sent:</b>August 29, 2016 4:48 AM</div><div
(???) > > id="to"><b>To:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org</div><div
(???) > > id="reply_to"><b>Reply-to:</b>gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >
(???) > </div>
(???) >
(???) > > <div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher
(???) >
(???) > GUI
(???) >
(???) > > Client</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-right:
(???) > > none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-top: 1pt solid
(???) > > rgb(186, 188, 209); display: block; padding: initial; font-size:
(???) > > initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
(???) > > 255);"></div> <br> </div><!--start of _originalContent --><div
(???) > > name="BB10" dir="auto" style="line-height: initial; outline: none;
(???) > > background-image: initial;" contenteditable="false">
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > > <div dir="ltr">
(???) > > <div
(???) > > style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#
(???) >
(???) > ffffff;font-family:'
(???) >
(???) > > calibri' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif"> <p>you have a tester
(???) > > waiting here for os 10.4.11 ppc.<br>
(???) > > </p>
(???) > > <br>
(???) > > <br>
(???) > > <div style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )">
(???) > > <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%">
(???) > > <div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"
(???) >
(???) > face="Calibri,
(???) >
(???) > > sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Gopher-Project
(???) > > <gopher-project-bounces+barana24=hotmail.com@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > ; on behalf of James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au><br>
(???) > > <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 August 2016 1:33 PM<br>
(???) > > <b>To:</b> Gopher Project Discussion<br>
(???) > > <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gopher] New Cross-Platform Gopher GUI
(???) > > Client</font> <div> </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > <div>
(???) > > <div dir="ltr">Sounds good! Btw if you have a Macbook with OS X turn on
(???) >
(???) > the
(???) >
(???) > > Zoom feature in Accessibility and try ot use your Gopher client/app
(???) > > with zoomed in display. <div><br>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > <div>:)</div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text"><br clear="all">
(???) > > <div>
(???) > > <div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) > > );font-size:13px"><br> <font face="arial, sans-serif">James Mills /
(???) > > prologic</font><br>
(???) > > <br>
(???) > > <font face="arial, sans-serif"></font><font face="'courier new',
(???) > > monospace">E: <a href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au"
(???) > > style="color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) > > )">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span> <div><span
(???) > > style="font-family:'courier new' , monospace;color:rgb( 136 , 136 , 136
(???) > > );font-size:13px">W: </span><a
(???) > > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style="font-family:'courier
(???) > > new' , monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 204
(???) > > )">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br> </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > <br>
(???) > > <div style="display: block;" class="elided-text">On Sun, Aug 28, 2016
(???) > > at 3:11 PM, Kevin Veroneau <span dir="ltr"> <<a
(???) > > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>></span>
(???) > > wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
(???) > > solid;padding-left:1ex"> That's great to hear. :) I have a new
(???) > > update which I released into the source<br> repo, but not all the
(???) >
(???) > binaries
(???) >
(???) > > are updated yet as I need to go through all my<br> development
(???) > > environments here to build the project and upload them into my<br>
(???) > > Gopherspace.<br>
(???) > > <br>
(???) > > Now that most of the main gopher functionality is present, I can start
(???) > > doing<br> work on the usability and accessible functions, such as font
(???) > > sizes and a<br> proper threaded download manager. :)<br>
(???) > > <div>
(???) > > <div><br>
(???) > > On Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:32:12 AM James Mills wrote:<br>
(???) > > > Good news! Your latest binaries are working okay now. No more
(???) > > "hanging".<br> ><br>
(???) > > > Fonts are still very blurred though :)<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > E: <a
(???) > > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) >
(???) > </a
(???) >
(???) > > ><br> > W: <a href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > >
(???) > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Kevin Veroneau <<a
(???) > > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > A REALLY BIG update!<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > All binaries on my GopherSpace have also been updated to the
(???) > > latest<br> > > versions<br>
(???) > > > > as well.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > *** What's new ***<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > * Full Bookmark support! Bookmarks are
(???) > > saved into a local file in<br> > > Gopher<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > Menu format. So if you know the Gopher protocol, you
(???) > > can edit the<br> > > bookmark file.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > * Support for many more GopherTypes, search, and
(???) > > binary.<br> > > * Ability to save the image you are
(???) > > viewing to your local<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > disk(Right-click<br>
(???) > > > > menu).<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > * Ability to download supported GopherTypes to
(???) >
(???) > local
(???) >
(???) > > disk,<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > Text/Image/Binary<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > * You can now close previously opened GopherNodes
(???) >
(???) > in
(???) >
(???) > > the tree view.<br> > > * Updated icons, taken from
(???) > > the Emerald GPL iconset.<br> > > * You can now
(???) > > resize the middle divider.<br> > > * Many bug fixes
(???) > > and improved stability.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > I wouldn't recommend downloading uber large
(???) > > binary files on a slow<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > connection<br>
(???) > > > > as threading AKA a download manager which runs in the
(???) >
(???) > background
(???) >
(???) > > isn't<br> > > yet implemented, so downloads do hang the GUI.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > Attached is a screenshot from my Linux
(???) >
(???) > workstation, I
(???) >
(???) > > tried to snapshot<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > the<br>
(???) > > > > right-click context menu in the tree view, but KSnapshot
(???) >
(???) > doesn't
(???) >
(???) > > do that.<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > Anyways, let me know what you think of this
(???) > > update and the project<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > overall.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:58:44 PM Kevin Veroneau
(???) > > wrote:<br> > > > Hmm, not entirely sure what is causing that
(???) > > Access Violation, I had<br> > > > that problem during initial
(???) > > development which ended up slowing down<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > development.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > I will look further into that.<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > Font options would be something I will definately look
(???) > > into.<br> > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > I updated the Source code to enable GopherType 7 and h,
(???) > > so now<br> > > > Veronica-2 works, as well as most
(???) > > gopherholes
(???) >
(???) > which
(???) >
(???) > > use the search<br> > > > type. Initial support for the
(???) > > 'h' type has also been added, however I<br> > > > am trying
(???) > > to<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > debug<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > how to make the "data:" protocol which some gopherpages
(???) >
(???) > use
(???) >
(???) > > work<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > properly.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > These updates are not available in the binary images
(???) > > yet,
(???) >
(???) > I
(???) >
(???) > > will make<br> > > > an updated set of binaries tomorrow
(???) > > evening after I get more working.<br> > > > :)<br>
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:10:22 PM James Mills
(???) > > wrote:<br> > > > > Okay... So running from
(???) > > /Applications/gopher.app/<wbr>Contents/MacOS works<br> > > >
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > $ ./gopher<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > I've run into several stack-traces though (Access
(???) > > Violation -- pascal<br> > > > > days coming back to
(???) > > me!)<br> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > e.g: <a
(???) > > href="https://gist.github.com/5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c59">
(???) > > https://gist.github.com/<wbr>5a7011f0c987ebf7db849169e14a8c
(???) >
(???) > <wbr>59</a><br>
(???) >
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > Also fonts are terrible on OS X (btw). I typically
(???) >
(???) > use
(???) >
(???) > > OS X's buitin<br> > > > > accessibility zoom (because I'm
(???) > > legally blind) and whatever fonts or<br> > > > > however
(???) > > content is being rendered in the gopher client is really bad<br> >
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > > > :(<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > > > James<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > E: <a
(???) > > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) >
(???) > </a
(???) >
(???) > > ><br> > > > > W: <a href="http://prologic.
(???) >
(???) > shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) >
(???) > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:05 PM, James Mills<br>
(???) > > > > > > <<a
(???) > > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) >
(???) > </a
(???) >
(???) > > >><br> > > > ><br>
(???) > >
(???) > > > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > > > Sorry that was my blindness there :P You are
(???) >
(???) > right
(???) >
(???) > > about where it<br> > > > > > connects to by default (or
(???) > > tries to).<br> > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > > But yeah this is totally not working; let me
(???) > > try to dig in to<br> > > > > > why...<br>
(???) > > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > > E: <a
(???) > > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) >
(???) > </a
(???) >
(???) > > ><br> > > > > > W: <a
(???) > >
(???) > > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Kevin
(???) > > Veroneau<br> > > > > > <<a
(???) > > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> >
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > > wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> That's odd, it's currently set to load <a
(???) > > href="http://gopher.veroneau.net"> gopher.veroneau.net</a> by<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > default.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> I haven't seen the not responding on any
(???) > > of the platforms I tested<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > it<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> on, not<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> sure what's going on there. I only
(???) > > noticed a crash if there was<br> > > > > >> no
(???) > > network<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> available.<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> You can run the binary from a Terminal if
(???) >
(???) > you
(???) >
(???) > > run it from inside<br> > > > > >> the Application
(???) > > bundle. It might display some sort of output<br> > > >
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > >> there.<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > This<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> is my<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> first time building an OS X app bundle, so
(???) > > maybe something in the<br> > > > > >> plist is
(???) > > incorrect.<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:47:28 PM
(???) > > James Mills wrote:<br> > > > > >> > So one major
(???) > > issue right now )blocker):<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > a) Open App<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > b) It loads <a
(???) > > href="http://vernica.floodgap.com"> vernica.floodgap.com</a> by default
(???) > > (fine)<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > c) Spins -- Not Responding (not
(???) > > responsive to GUI events,<br> > > > > >> >
(???) > > spinning<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> wheel)<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > Looking at process stats:<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > consistent ~2.7% CPU util, 2
(???) >
(???) > threads<br>
(???) >
(???) > > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > Should I just keep waiting? Or is
(???) >
(???) > there a
(???) >
(???) > > bug?<br> > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > cheers<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > James<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > James Mills / prologic<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > E: <a
(???) > > href="mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) >
(???) > </a
(???) >
(???) > > ><br> > > > > >> > W: <a
(???) > >
(???) > > href="http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au">
(???) > > prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:44 PM,
(???) > > Kevin Veroneau <<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > <a
(???) > > href="mailto:kevin@veroneau.net">kevin@veroneau.net</a>><br> >
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> wrote:<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > Cameron, it might be
(???) >
(???) > possible
(???) >
(???) > > to compile a version for Mac OS<br> > > > > >> >
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > X 10.4, looking<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > at the compatibility page, it
(???) >
(???) > looks
(???) >
(???) > > like FPC 2.6.4 and Lazarus<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > > 1.2.6<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> can<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > build<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > for OS X 10.4.<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > <a
(???) > > href="http://wiki.freepascal.org/Installing_Lazarus_on_MacOS_X#Com">
(???) > > http://wiki.freepascal.org/<wbr>Installing_Lazarus_on_
(???) >
(???) > MacOS_X#<wbr>Com</a>
(???) >
(???) > > <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> patibility<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > Once this Gopher client has
(???) >
(???) > matured
(???) >
(???) > > enough, and you have about<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > an<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> hour to<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > spare, you can try installing
(???) >
(???) > Xcode
(???) >
(???) > > and Lazarus onto OS X 10.4<br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > and<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > running the<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > compile process. There is
(???) >
(???) > only
(???) >
(???) > > one Lazarus package needed<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > > other than<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> the<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > base<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > Lazarus components and that is
(???) > > TurboPowerIPro which is used<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > > for the<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> HTML<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > widget. Even if this isn't
(???) > > compatible with needed version of<br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> Lazarus, we<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > could just replace it with a
(???) > > different widget.<br> > > > > >> > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > On Wednesday, August 24, 2016
(???) > > 10:25:41 PM Cameron Kaiser wrote:<br> > > > > >> >
(???) > > > > > Ooops I think you have a packaging problem.<br> >
(???) > > > > > >> > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > > > OS X 10.11.6 (El
(???) >
(???) > Captain)
(???) >
(???) > > is unable to open the DMG.<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > > The error is "unrecognized disk image".<br> > > > >
(???) > > >> > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > > > It doesn't open on 10.4
(???) >
(???) > either,
(???) >
(???) > > though I strongly suspect<br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > > > the binary isn't PowerPC compatible.<br> > > > >
(???) > > >>
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> > >
(???) > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > > > >> > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br> > > >
(???) > > > >> > > <a
(???) > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) >
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) >
(???) > > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> > >
(???) > > <a
(???) > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/goph">
(???) > > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) >
(???) > listinfo/<wbr>goph</a>
(???) >
(???) > > <br> > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >> er-project<br>
(???) > > > > > > >><br>
(???) > > > > > > >>
(???) > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > > >
(???) > > > >> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > > > >> <a
(???) > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) >
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) >
(???) > > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > > >> <a
(???) > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/">
(???) > > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/</a><br>
(???) >
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > > ><br>
(???) > > > > gopher-project<br>
(???) > > > ><br>
(???) > > > > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > > > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > > <a
(???) > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) >
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) >
(???) > > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > > <a
(???) > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) >
(???) > listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) >
(???) > > ct">
(???) > > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) >
(???) > listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) >
(???) > > roject</a><br> > ><br>
(???) > > > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > > > <a
(???) > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) >
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) >
(???) > > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> > > <a
(???) > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) >
(???) > listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) >
(???) > > ct">
(???) > > http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) >
(???) > listinfo/<wbr>gopher-p
(???) >
(???) > > roject</a><br> <br>
(???) > > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
(???) > > Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) > > <a
(???) > > href="mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">
(???) >
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.
(???) >
(???) > > alioth.<wbr>debian.org</a><br> <a
(???) > > href="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) >
(???) > listinfo/gopher-proje
(???) >
(???) > > ct">http://lists.alioth.debian.<wbr>org/cgi-bin/mailman/
(???) >
(???) > listinfo/<wbr>gophe
(???) >
(???) > > r-project</a><br> </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > </blockquote>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > <br>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > > </div>
(???) > >
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(???) >
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(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
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(???) eah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it.
(???) D
(TN3) he only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because I've been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid inetd/systemd Debian package.
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(???) hat's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did I miss an announcement about
(???) his? :)
(???) ames Mills / prologic
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(???) n Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com> wrote:
(???) Yeah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it.
(???)
(???) :D
(???)
(???) The only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because I've
(???) been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid inetd/systemd
(???) Debian package.
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did=
(???) I miss an announcement about this? :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
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(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala=
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(???) eah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it.<br>
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(TN3) he only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" b=
(???) cause I've been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid =
netd/systemd Debian package.<br>
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(???) ll proper software need release names, right? So this is Gophernicus =
(PHO) .0 "for Workgroups".
(IMG) should do 2.1 with proper hybrid .deb packages and then 2.2 with =
(HTM) ybrid .rpm support (hybrid being =
netd/xinetd/systemd/whatevertheyusethisweek-d). Maybe installp support =
(???) or Cameron as well so he can finally have a proper modern Gopher daemon =
(???) D
(???) Kim
(???) On 08 Sep 2016, at 20:39, James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> =
(???) rote:
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(???) What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did I miss an announcement =
(???) bout this? :)
(???) =20
(???) =20
(???) James Mills / prologic
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(???) E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au <mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>
(???) W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au <http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/>
(???) =20
(???) On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com =
(???) mailto:kim@holviala.com>> wrote:
(???) Yeah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it.
(???) =20
(???) :D
(???) =20
(???) The only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because =
(IMG) 've been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid =
netd/systemd Debian package.
(???) =20
(???) =20
(???) - Kim
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(???) lass=3D""><div class=3D"">All proper software need release names, =
(???) ight? So this is Gophernicus 2.0 "for Workgroups".</div><div =
(???) lass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I should do 2.1 with =
(PNG) roper hybrid .deb packages and then 2.2 with hybrid .rpm support =
(???) hybrid being inetd/xinetd/systemd/whatevertheyusethisweek-d). Maybe =
nstallp support for Cameron as well so he can finally have a proper =
(???) odern Gopher daemon :D</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
(???) lass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
(???) lass=3D"">- Kim</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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(???) lass=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
(TXT) 8 Sep 2016, at 20:39, James Mills <<a =
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(???) lass=3D"">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>> wrote:</div><br =
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(???) lass=3D"">What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did I miss an =
(???) nnouncement about this? :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br =
(???) lear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature" =
(DOC) ata-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><span =
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(???) lass=3D"">James Mills / prologic</font><br class=3D""><br =
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(???) br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 =
(???) M, Kim Holviala <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a =
(HTM) ref=3D"mailto:kim@holviala.com" target=3D"_blank" =
(???) lass=3D"">kim@holviala.com</a>></span> wrote:<br =
(???) lass=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
(???) 8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yeah yeah, I just =
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(TN3) he only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because I've =
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(???) ebian package.<br class=3D"">
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(???) hh I see so nothing special as such :)
(IMG) thought for a second there that "for Workgroups"
(???) eans that Gophernicus had groupware like features and support :)
(???) heers
(???) ames
(???) ames Mills / prologic
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(???) n Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com> wrote:
(???) All proper software need release names, right? So this is Gophernicus 2.0
(???) "for Workgroups".
(???)
(???) I should do 2.1 with proper hybrid .deb packages and then 2.2 with hybrid
(???) .rpm support (hybrid being inetd/xinetd/systemd/whatevertheyusethisweek-d).
(???) Maybe installp support for Cameron as well so he can finally have a proper
(???) modern Gopher daemon :D
(???)
(???)
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(???) - Kim
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(???) On 08 Sep 2016, at 20:39, James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>
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(???) What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did I miss an announcement about
(???) this? :)
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(???)
(???) James Mills / prologic
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(???) On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com> wrote:
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(???) > Yeah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it.
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(???) > :D
(???) >
(???) > The only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" because I've
(???) > been too lazy to fix the control files to produce a hybrid inetd/systemd
(???) > Debian package.
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(???) > - Kim
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">Ahh I see so nothing special as such :)<div>I thought for =
(???) second there that "for Workgroups"</div><div>means that Gophern=
cus had groupware like features and support :)</div><div><br></div><div>ch=
(???) ers</div><div>James</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all=
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rcuit.net.au</a><br></div></div></div>
(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Kim Holvial=
(???) <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kim@holviala.com" target=3D"_blan=
(???) ">kim@holviala.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
(???) e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
(???) <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>All proper software need release =
(???) ames, right? So this is Gophernicus 2.0 "for Workgroups".</div><=
(DOC) iv><br></div><div>I should do 2.1 with proper hybrid .deb packages and the=
(???) 2.2 with hybrid .rpm support (hybrid being inetd/xinetd/systemd/<wbr>what=
(???) vertheyusethisweek-d). Maybe installp support for Cameron as well so he ca=
(???) finally have a proper modern Gopher daemon :D</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"=
(???) <font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=
(???) Kim</div></font></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><div><br></d=
v><div><br></div><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 08 Sep 2016, a=
(???) 20:39, James Mills <<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" ta=
(???) get=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><=
(DOC) iv dir=3D"ltr">What's with the "for Workgroups" bit? :) Did =
(IMG) miss an announcement about this? :)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br c=
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(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Kim Holviala=
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(???) >kim@holviala.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
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(???) eah yeah, I just removed the -alpha from VERSION. Deal with it.<br>
(???) br>
(???) D<br>
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(TN3) he only thing that's missing compared to 1.8 is "make deb" b=
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netd/systemd Debian package.<br>
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(???) Kim<br>
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(???) i all,
(IMG) 'm pleased to announce the availability of github.com/prologic/go-gopher
(???) Gopher library for the Go programming language implementing client
(???) nd server functionality (as a library). There are three examples:
(???) a simple file server
(???) a simple client
(???) a simple custom handler
(HTM) ttps://github.com/prologic/go-gopher
(???) o far the design of this library is heavily inspired by the standard
(???) et/http library with simple interfaces. My plans are to work on continuing
(DOC) evelopment and support for go-gopher to a point where it is mature enough
(???) or a full-fledged cross-platform GUI Gopher client (Yes I'm also working
(???) n one; because why not!) as well as a re-implementation of cgod (Python)
n Go.
(???) heers
(???) ames
(???) ames Mills / prologic
(???) : prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) : prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I'm pleased to announce the=
(???) availability of <a href=3D"http://github.com/prologic/go-gopher">github.co=
(???) /prologic/go-gopher</a></div><div>a Gopher library for the Go programming =
(???) anguage implementing client</div><div>and server functionality (as a libra=
(???) y). There are three examples:</div><div><br></div><div>- a simple file ser=
(???) er</div><div>- a simple client</div><div>- a simple custom handler</div><d=
v><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://github.com/prologic/go-gopher">https:/=
(???) github.com/prologic/go-gopher</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>So far the =
(DOC) esign of this library is heavily inspired by the standard net/http library=
(???) with simple interfaces. My plans are to work on continuing development and=
(???) support for go-gopher to a point where it is mature enough for a full-fled=
(GIF) ed cross-platform GUI Gopher client (Yes I'm also working on one; beca=
(???) se why not!) as well as a re-implementation of cgod (Python) in Go.</div><=
(DOC) iv><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>James<br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=
(???) 3D"gmail_signature"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,=
(DIR) 36,136);font-size:13px"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills /=
(???) prologic</font><br><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=
(???) 3D"'courier new', monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@sh=
(???) rtcircuit.net.au" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@=
(SND) hortcircuit.net.au</a></font></span><div><span style=3D"font-family:"=
(???) ourier new",monospace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=C2=A0=
(???) /span><a href=3D"http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family=
(???) "courier new",monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" targe=
(???) =3D"_blank">prologic.shortcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></div></div>
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(???) ubject: [gopher] New stand-alone Gopher client (fwd)
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(???) orwarded for folks' interest.
(???) ---- Forwarded message from Felix -----
(???) From felix@plesoianu.ro Sun Aug 21 11:31:40 2016
(???) i there!
(???) pologies for the prolonged silence. Waning interest in Pocket Gopher
(???) oincided with a bad time in my life, so I dropped the ball for a few
(???) ears. Now I'm back, not least thanks to that recent article on
(???) ww.minnpost.com, but as feature phones have fallen by the wayside,
(???) here's little point in continuing with my old client. So I decided to
(???) ake a new one.
(???) ophersnake is written in Python and Tkinter, so it's inherently
(PNG) ortable (should run out of the box on most Linux and Mac boxes). It's
(???) lso stand-alone, modern-looking, and like its predecessor offers the
(???) ser a decent set of starting points. All this should make Gopher more
(???) isible to newcomers than a browser plugin. It's still at a very early
(SND) tage, but I'll keep poking at it. And just in case anyone shows more
(???) han a passing interest, I put it on GitHub for now:
(HTM) ttps://github.com/felixplesoianu/gophersnake -- its nature also makes
t easier to hack and maintain. So, hope this helps.
(???) est regards,
(???) elix
(???) .S. There's another similar client out there:
(HTM) ttps://github.com/avysk/suck-o-rama
(???) ---- End of forwarded message from Felix -----
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - Commodore on desk/Power light glowing brightly/The computer waits -- T. Lake
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(IMG) came across both of these (as a fellow Pythonista myself!) and both work
(???) airly well (at least on my recent Macbook).
(???) ood to see alternative clients springing up!
(???) heers
(???) ames
(???) ames Mills / prologic
(???) : prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
(???) : prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
(???) n Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) rote:
(???) Forwarded for folks' interest.
(???)
(???) ----- Forwarded message from Felix -----
(???)
(???) From felix@plesoianu.ro Sun Aug 21 11:31:40 2016
(???)
(???) Hi there!
(???)
(???) Apologies for the prolonged silence. Waning interest in Pocket Gopher
(???) coincided with a bad time in my life, so I dropped the ball for a few
(???) years. Now I'm back, not least thanks to that recent article on
(???) www.minnpost.com, but as feature phones have fallen by the wayside,
(???) there's little point in continuing with my old client. So I decided to
(???) make a new one.
(???)
(???) Gophersnake is written in Python and Tkinter, so it's inherently
(???) portable (should run out of the box on most Linux and Mac boxes). It's
(???) also stand-alone, modern-looking, and like its predecessor offers the
(???) user a decent set of starting points. All this should make Gopher more
(???) visible to newcomers than a browser plugin. It's still at a very early
(???) stage, but I'll keep poking at it. And just in case anyone shows more
(???) than a passing interest, I put it on GitHub for now:
(???) https://github.com/felixplesoianu/gophersnake -- its nature also makes
(???) it easier to hack and maintain. So, hope this helps.
(???)
(???) Best regards,
(???) Felix
(???)
(???) P.S. There's another similar client out there:
(???) https://github.com/avysk/suck-o-rama
(???)
(???) ----- End of forwarded message from Felix -----
(???)
(???) --
(???) ------------------------------------ personal:
(???) http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com *
(???) ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) -- Commodore on desk/Power light glowing brightly/The computer waits -- T.
(???) Lake
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(???) div dir=3D"ltr">I came across both of these (as a fellow Pythonista myself=
(???) ) and both work fairly well (at least on my recent Macbook).<div><br></div=
(???) <div>Good to see alternative clients springing up!</div><div><br></div><di=
(???) >cheers</div><div>James</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D=
(???) all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature=
(???) ><span style=3D"border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:=
(DIR) 3px"><br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif">James Mills / prologic</font><br=
(???) <br><font face=3D"arial, sans-serif"></font><font face=3D"'courier new=
(???) #39;, monospace">E:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:prologic@shortcircuit.net.au" s=
(???) yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic@shortcircuit.net.au<=
(???) a></font></span><div><span style=3D"font-family:'courier new',mono=
(SND) pace;color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:13px">W:=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http=
(???) //prologic.shortcircuit.net.au" style=3D"font-family:'courier new'=
(???) monospace;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,204)" target=3D"_blank">prologic.sh=
(???) rtcircuit.net.au</a><br></div></div></div>
(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Cameron Ka=
ser <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:spectre@floodgap.com" target=
(???) 3D"_blank">spectre@floodgap.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
(???) 3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ng-left:1ex">Forwarded for folks' interest.<br>
(???) br>
(???) ---- Forwarded message from Felix -----<br>
(???) br>
(???) From <a href=3D"mailto:felix@plesoianu.ro">felix@plesoianu.ro</a>=C2=A0 Sun=
(???) Aug 21 11:31:40 2016<br>
(???) br>
(???) i there!<br>
(???) br>
(???) pologies for the prolonged silence. Waning interest in Pocket Gopher<br>
(???) oincided with a bad time in my life, so I dropped the ball for a few<br>
(???) ears. Now I'm back, not least thanks to that recent article on<br>
(???) a href=3D"http://www.minnpost.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ww=
(???) .minnpost.com</a>, but as feature phones have fallen by the wayside,<br>
(???) here's little point in continuing with my old client. So I decided to<=
(???) r>
(???) ake a new one.<br>
(???) br>
(???) ophersnake is written in Python and Tkinter, so it's inherently<br>
(PNG) ortable (should run out of the box on most Linux and Mac boxes). It's<=
(???) r>
(???) lso stand-alone, modern-looking, and like its predecessor offers the<br>
(???) ser a decent set of starting points. All this should make Gopher more<br>
(???) isible to newcomers than a browser plugin. It's still at a very early<=
(???) r>
(SND) tage, but I'll keep poking at it. And just in case anyone shows more<b=
(???) >
(???) han a passing interest, I put it on GitHub for now:<br>
(???) a href=3D"https://github.com/felixplesoianu/gophersnake" rel=3D"noreferrer=
(???) target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>felixplesoianu/gophersnake</a> =
(???) - its nature also makes<br>
t easier to hack and maintain. So, hope this helps.<br>
(???) br>
(???) est regards,<br>
(???) elix<br>
(???) br>
(???) .S. There's another similar client out there:<br>
(???) a href=3D"https://github.com/avysk/suck-o-rama" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
(???) 3D"_blank">https://github.com/avysk/suck-<wbr>o-rama</a><br>
(???) br>
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