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(???) nd this is likely a stupid question that was answered several times,
(???) ut what gopher clients are there for android?
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(???) n 07/09/2013 07:11 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:
(???) And this is likely a stupid question that was answered several times,
(???) but what gopher clients are there for android?
(IMG) know of only one: Overbite http://gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/
(???) adly it seems development stopped 3 years ago at v0.2, but still - it
(???) orks.
(TN3) he alternative choice would be to use some web2gopher gateways...
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(???) > And this is likely a stupid question that was answered several times,
(???) > but what gopher clients are there for android?
(???)
(???) I know of only one: Overbite http://gopher.floodgap.com/overbite/
(???) Sadly it seems development stopped 3 years ago at v0.2, but still - it
(???) works.
(IMG) just haven't gotten around to writing more for it. I do have a bug with
(???) ndroid 4.0+ that I need to fix and I'm pretty sure what the cause is.
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(IMG) would like to suggest a means grande gopher site, a way of controling
(???) ccess through the proxies.
(???) ith http we have the robots.txt file, and the gopher proxies have one
(SND) uch file, but as the individual gopher sites are presenteted as pages
(???) eloning to proxy site, we have to kindly ask the manageres of those pages
(???) o include out pages there to limited access from roaming web crawler bots.
(???) e need a standalized way of placing a .robots.txt file in the root of out
(SND) ite, and say once a week, month such a file would be automatical
ncorperated into the robots.txt on the proxy site, so we need a simple
(PNG) arse, and a set of rules as to just how many linies we can have in that
(???) ile.
(???) t the same time, we could need some way of getting a bit header
nfomation also, useragent string is the one we need for this, if just the
(PNG) roxy site would transmite the useragent of every 50th access by the means
(???) f a sperat access to a comon select with the useragent appeded by the
(???) eans of the web get hack.
(???) ay access to proxy?useragent=<bingbot,googlebot, fake german search
(???) nginen etc etc>
(???) ould all be done over the caps.txt file, by means or robot= lines and the
(???) ebget argument could be pass to that file also.
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(???) enerally, I think, proxies ought to simply deny access from all
(???) ser-agents for the proxied pages. If the owner of the gopher site wishes
(???) o make their site HTTP-indexable, they can set up their own web server.
(TN3) his also prevents search engines from thinking that proxies contain
(DOC) uplicate content.
(???) n Jul 23, 2013 5:00 AM, "Jacob Dahl Pind" <rachael@telefisk.org> wrote:
(???)
(???) I would like to suggest a means grande gopher site, a way of controling
(???) access through the proxies.
(???)
(???) with http we have the robots.txt file, and the gopher proxies have one
(???) such file, but as the individual gopher sites are presenteted as pages
(???) beloning to proxy site, we have to kindly ask the manageres of those pages
(???) to include out pages there to limited access from roaming web crawler bots.
(???)
(???) We need a standalized way of placing a .robots.txt file in the root of out
(???) site, and say once a week, month such a file would be automatical
(???) incorperated into the robots.txt on the proxy site, so we need a simple
(???) parse, and a set of rules as to just how many linies we can have in that
(???) file.
(???)
(???) at the same time, we could need some way of getting a bit header
(???) infomation also, useragent string is the one we need for this, if just the
(???) proxy site would transmite the useragent of every 50th access by the means
(???) of a sperat access to a comon select with the useragent appeded by the
(???) means of the web get hack.
(???)
(???) Say access to proxy?useragent=<bingbot,**googlebot, fake german search
(???) enginen etc etc>
(???)
(???) Could all be done over the caps.txt file, by means or robot= lines and the
(???) webget argument could be pass to that file also.
(???)
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(???) p>Generally, I think, proxies ought to simply deny access from all user-ag=
(???) nts for the proxied pages. If the owner of the gopher site wishes to make =
(???) heir site HTTP-indexable, they can set up their own web server. This also =
(PNG) revents search engines from thinking that proxies contain duplicate conten=
(???) .</p>
(???) div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 23, 2013 5:00 AM, "Jacob Dahl Pind&q=
(???) ot; <<a href=3D"mailto:rachael@telefisk.org">rachael@telefisk.org</a>&g=
(???) ; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
(???) 3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) br>
(IMG) would like to suggest a means grande gopher site, a way of controling acc=
(???) ss through the proxies.<br>
(???) br>
(???) ith http we have the robots.txt file, and the gopher proxies have one such=
(???) file, but as the individual gopher sites are presenteted as pages beloning=
(???) to proxy site, we have to kindly ask the manageres of those pages to inclu=
(DOC) e out pages there to limited access from roaming web crawler bots.<br>
(???) br>
(???) e need a standalized way of placing a .robots.txt file in the root of out =
(SND) ite, and say once a week, month such a file would be automatical incorpera=
(???) ed into the robots.txt on the proxy site, so we need a simple parse, and a=
(???) set of rules as to just how many linies we can have in that file.<br>
(???) br>
(???) t the same time, we could need some way of getting a bit header infomation=
(???) also, useragent string is the one we need for this, if just the proxy site=
(???) would transmite the useragent of every 50th access by the means of a spera=
(???) access to a comon select with the useragent appeded by the means of the w=
(???) b get hack.<br>
(???) br>
(???) ay access to proxy?useragent=3D<bingbot,<u></u>googlebot, fake german s=
(???) arch enginen etc etc><br>
(???) br>
(???) ould all be done over the caps.txt file, by means or robot=3D lines and th=
(???) webget argument could be pass to that file also.<br>
(???) br>
(???) -<br>
(???) acob Dahl Pind | <a href=3D"http://telefisk.org" target=3D"_blank">telefis=
(???) .org</a> | fidonet 2:230/38.8<br>
(???) br>
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(???) > I would like to suggest a means grande gopher site, a way of controling
(???) > access through the proxies.
(???) >
(???) > with http we have the robots.txt file, and the gopher proxies have one
(???) > such file, but as the individual gopher sites are presenteted as pages
(???) > beloning to proxy site, we have to kindly ask the manageres of those pages
(???) > to include out pages there to limited access from roaming web crawler bots.
(???) >
(???) > We need a standalized way of placing a .robots.txt file in the root of out
(???) > site, and say once a week, month such a file would be automatical
(???) > incorperated into the robots.txt on the proxy site, so we need a simple
(???) > parse, and a set of rules as to just how many linies we can have in that
(???) > file.
(???)
(???) Generally, I think, proxies ought to simply deny access from all
(???) user-agents for the proxied pages. If the owner of the gopher site wishes
(???) to make their site HTTP-indexable, they can set up their own web server.
(???) This also prevents search engines from thinking that proxies contain
(???) duplicate content.
(IMG) think these are good thoughts to consider, but the problem is that most of
(???) he "overly permissive" proxies are on servers run by folks who either aren't
(???) n these lists, or disagree with the premise that the content should not be
ndexed. Realistically, asking them to do more work won't fly, unless there
(???) ere a concerted cooperative effort to simply drop requests from them on the
(???) loor and refuse to serve their proxies data until changes were made.
(???) ersonally, I have no problem implementing a reasonable approach along
(???) hese lines, though I suspect that most of the issues aren't coming from my
(PNG) roxy. If you know differently, please send me an E-mail offlist. Probably
(???) he same for Brian and pongonova.
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(???) n Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 07:53:42AM -0700, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) Personally, I have no problem implementing a reasonable approach along
(???) these lines, though I suspect that most of the issues aren't coming from my
(???) proxy. If you know differently, please send me an E-mail offlist. Probably
(???) the same for Brian and pongonova.
(???) lease do include me on this discussion if it goes offline. I don't
(???) ant to be part of the problem either, and would gladly configure my
(PNG) roxy to exclude obnoxious behavior.
(???) --Brian
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(???) > Personally, I have no problem implementing a reasonable approach along
(???) > these lines, though I suspect that most of the issues aren't coming from my
(???) > proxy. If you know differently, please send me an E-mail offlist. Probably
(???) > the same for Brian and pongonova.
(???)
(???) Please do include me on this discussion if it goes offline. I don't
(???) want to be part of the problem either, and would gladly configure my
(???) proxy to exclude obnoxious behavior.
(???) efinitely, and any other proxy maintainers that *are* on this list.
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(???) n Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) I think these are good thoughts to consider, but the problem is that most of
(???) the "overly permissive" proxies are on servers run by folks who either aren't
(???) on these lists, or disagree with the premise that the content should not be
(???) indexed. Realistically, asking them to do more work won't fly, unless there
(???) were a concerted cooperative effort to simply drop requests from them on the
(???) floor and refuse to serve their proxies data until changes were made.
(HTM) ad hoped if there was a sample implementation that parsed, check and
(GIF) enerated that unifed robots.txt, it would be easy enough for them to
mplement it, but you are right, in the end we are at their mercy and
(???) locking is the only option.
(???) ave been using the redirection code I made, that servering up nonsense to
(???) hem, I even though about serving them piratebay data, but that would at best
(GIF) et them delisted from google and bing but I doubt its ether of those that is
(???) ausing those none stop crawer storms.
(IMG) see the same behaviour on http from:
(???) ser-agent: Lightspeed
(???) ser-agent: SISTRIX Crawler
(???) ser-agent: Baiduspider
(???) ser-agent: YandexBot
(???) ser-agent: Ezooms
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(???) n Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:56:25AM +0200, Jacob Dahl Pind wrote:
(???) user-agent: Lightspeed
(???) user-agent: SISTRIX Crawler
(???) user-agent: Baiduspider
(???) user-agent: YandexBot
(???) user-agent: Ezooms
(???) user-agent: Exabot
(???) user-agent: AhrefsBot
(???) hrefsBot is relentless. They don't seem to obey robots.txt, and
(???) ill just hammer a server for non-existent links. So are you
(SND) uggesting that it's the proxy that should be responsible for
(???) iltering this in some way?
(???) --Brian
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(???) n Jul 24, 2013 1:15 PM, "Brian Koontz" <brian@pongonova.net> wrote:
(???)
(???) On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:56:25AM +0200, Jacob Dahl Pind wrote:
(???) > user-agent: Lightspeed
(???) > user-agent: SISTRIX Crawler
(???) > user-agent: Baiduspider
(???) > user-agent: YandexBot
(???) > user-agent: Ezooms
(???) > user-agent: Exabot
(???) > user-agent: AhrefsBot
(???)
(???) AhrefsBot is relentless. They don't seem to obey robots.txt, and
(???) will just hammer a server for non-existent links. So are you
(???) suggesting that it's the proxy that should be responsible for
(???) filtering this in some way?
(???) ome of them already do. The floodgap proxy, for instance, has a blackhole
(???) or bots to wander about in.
(???)
(???) --Brian
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(???) n Jul 24, 2013 1:15 PM, "Brian Koontz" <<a href=3D"mailto:bri=
(???) n@pongonova.net">brian@pongonova.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:56:25AM +0200, Jacob Dahl Pind wrote:<br>
(???) gt; > user-agent: Lightspeed<br>
(???) gt; > user-agent: SISTRIX Crawler<br>
(???) gt; > user-agent: Baiduspider<br>
(???) gt; > user-agent: YandexBot<br>
(???) gt; > user-agent: Ezooms<br>
(???) gt; > user-agent: Exabot<br>
(???) gt; > user-agent: AhrefsBot<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; AhrefsBot is relentless. They don't seem to obey robots.txt, and<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; will just hammer a server for non-existent links. =A0So are you<br>
(???) gt; suggesting that it's the proxy that should be responsible for<br>
(???) gt; filtering this in some way?</p>
(???) p>Some of them already do. The floodgap proxy, for instance, has a blackho=
(???) e for bots to wander about in.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; =A0 --Brian<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; --<br>
(???) gt; Don't have gopher? =A0Visit the world's first wiki-based gophe=
(???) proxy!<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://www.pongonova.org/gopherwiki">http://www.pongonova.o=
(???) g/gopherwiki</a><br>
(???) gt; IRC: Freenode.net channel #gopherproject<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Proje=
(???) t@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gop=
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(???) n Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:31:48PM -0400, Wolfgang Faust wrote:
(???) Some of them already do. The floodgap proxy, for instance, has a blackhole
(???) for bots to wander about in.
(???) o your position is there should be absolutely no mingling of gopher
n http-space?
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(???) n Jul 24, 2013 1:45 PM, "Brian Koontz" <brian@pongonova.net> wrote:
(???)
(???) On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:31:48PM -0400, Wolfgang Faust wrote:
(???) > Some of them already do. The floodgap proxy, for instance, has a
(???) lackhole
(???) > for bots to wander about in.
(???)
(???) So your position is there should be absolutely no mingling of gopher
(???) in http-space?
(???)
(???) --Brian
(???) o, I was merely pointing out an example of a current practice, to make the
(PNG) oint that this is not merely hypothetical.
(IMG) 'm not really sure where I stand on the topic, though if I were writing a
(PNG) roxy I would *probably* configure it to prevent crawling.
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(???) p>On Jul 24, 2013 1:45 PM, "Brian Koontz" <<a href=3D"mailto:=
(???) rian@pongonova.net">brian@pongonova.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:31:48PM -0400, Wolfgang Faust wrote:<br>
(???) gt; > Some of them already do. The floodgap proxy, for instance, has a =
(???) lackhole<br>
(???) gt; > for bots to wander about in.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; So your position is there should be absolutely no mingling of gopher<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; in http-space?<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; =A0 --Brian<br>
(???) o, I was merely pointing out an example of a current practice, to make the=
(???) point that this is not merely hypothetical.</p>
(???) p>I'm not really sure where I stand on the topic, though if I were wri=
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(???) n Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:56:38PM -0400, Wolfgang Faust wrote:
(???) I'm not really sure where I stand on the topic, though if I were writing a
(???) proxy I would *probably* configure it to prevent crawling.
(IMG) 'm ambivalent too...OTOH I don't necessarily see the value of hosting
(GIF) opher content in HTTP land. However, it does add exposure to what we
(???) re doing. I've thought about some way to just allow one level of
ndexing, forcing those who are truly interested to invest some time
nto firing up Overbite or whatever.
(???) n a similar topic: What might be the value of a policy that excludes
(???) ll HTTP-space spidering, instead opting for a single HTTP
(???) storefront" of gopher sites like http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/?
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(???) > AhrefsBot is relentless. They don't seem to obey robots.txt, and
(???) > will just hammer a server for non-existent links. So are you
(???) > suggesting that it's the proxy that should be responsible for
(???) > filtering this in some way?
(???)
(???) Some of them already do. The floodgap proxy, for instance, has a blackhole
(???) for bots to wander about in.
(TN3) he proxy doesn't. The webserver does -- I don't want abusive bots on my
(SND) ites at all.
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(???) n Jul 23, 2013, at 14:55, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) >> Personally, I have no problem implementing a reasonable approach along
(???) >> these lines, though I suspect that most of the issues aren't coming from my
(???) >> proxy. If you know differently, please send me an E-mail offlist. Probably
(???) >> the same for Brian and pongonova.
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(???) > Please do include me on this discussion if it goes offline. I don't
(???) > want to be part of the problem either, and would gladly configure my
(???) > proxy to exclude obnoxious behavior.
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(???) Definitely, and any other proxy maintainers that *are* on this list.
(IMG) would prefer that you kept the discussion here on the list - it's been quiet enough lately anyway....
(???) Kim
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