(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Fri Jun 01 00:41:06 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:41:06 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so1145215lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.135.200 with SMTP id pu8mr511322lab.8.1338504038515; Thu,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CAAHY1V6pD3J7QNdr87xRAtiRoW8TBFJnfRgnMOWrcFvASF5fNQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD0au7PhZxWejopLReQTDHk5nF-1CB7Gk7iFisAn_eWfBg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:40:38 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD1DLT9osEPejgNqrpi1yjAyaXBi5ybw0RHmah81vy7KkA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Which itemtype for video (vote)?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) ontent-Length: 1137
(???) -IMAPbase: 1338554287 78 NonJunk
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 1
(???) n 22 May 2012 15:57, poczciwy <poczciwiec@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) "V" is most generic, semantic and rational. Also agree with Jeff.
(???) Now it's last time to modernizing/redefining gopher protocol,
(???) otherwise it'll die.
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) apital or lowercase?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Fri Jun 01 00:56:03 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:56:03 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so1152325lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.135.200 with SMTP id pu8mr547377lab.8.1338504931450; Thu,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 15:55:31 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FBC445B.7030908@NorthTech.US>
(???) eferences: <49FD46EA-3A57-4801-B211-1B0A4457A4D1@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:55:31 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD2dBQW4V3jipUdNLQ3k=GMr+AX5oW-7+CHMPgJvaG01jQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 2
(???) n 22 May 2012 21:58, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) Hash: RIPEMD160
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) On 05/06/2012 07:41 AM, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:
(???) > Hello,
(???) >
(???) > On Sat, 5 May 2012 12:07:12 +0000 (UTC)
(???) > Denis Bernard <denis.bernard@laposte.net> wrote:
(???) >
(???) >> Do not miss the opportunity to reach the small devices computers
(???) >> area by avoiding this =93i=94 item-type!
(???) >
(???) > Now for one moment, let's get real. Gopher has been obsolete even
(???) > before this list was created. Even then it has been and it will ever be
(???) > an obsolete thing from the past tinkered with by enthusiasts, people
(???)
(???) The nmap announcement is but one example that belies and contradicts the
(???) naive, prophetic declaration quoted above ;)
(???)
(???) Protocol level software integration occurs when there is a perceived
(???) need for such support. The nmap folks obviously perceive a need.
(???)
(???) Now how do we get the wget devels on board buoys and gulls?
(???)
(???) Kindest regards,
(???)
(???) - --
(???) Bradley D. Thornton
(???) Manager Network Services
(???) NorthTech Computer
(???) TEL: +1.310.388.9469 =A0(US)
(???) TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(???) TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(???) http://NorthTech.US
(???)
(???) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) Comment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
(???)
(???) iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJPvERbAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3pAAH/0WDZOy0igfLfZXhWMNcQ5/n
(???) bx3dFtzSqcgX4mV/bzWwQRDCfZYT/B6oJJrTds7TD7FxJc6A/uryuz9esCYTpco6
(???) k2pHkr5p3N7lnQVHhfMIwYxKlacCZNFfsbHgnbOmM7SLCV8SWqYNyUzhgfq0NYDY
(???) BI8IGGNjWTg4IPu3Tl2ot5MdWBTgjwVhRs2Bw2niAI2KR8sZ8th1h26xWX6mbxoE
(???) /0fNawmECnde8G/jdTSY3HsKMFinDVXReIYcn1+TagX2u+YsaZp5vrbsgrbylPdI
(???) IwaWEGL109YAUF25XJmQ0ewyYE6ty3jaerK2iY6oRj2l1K3FvQSSqXhUcofGxQk=3D
(???) =3DETou
(???) -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) emember, this is the same mentally challenged individual who wrote a
(???) ambling, incoherent, page-and-a-half long message about the
(???) non-existent) "security flaws" of caps.txt files. He needs to
(???) emember to take his pills.
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Fri Jun 01 01:00:41 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:00:41 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so1295801lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.46.101 with SMTP id u5mr866372lbm.21.1338505210946; Thu,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 16:00:10 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <loom.20120505T135956-687@post.gmane.org>
(???) eferences: <49FD46EA-3A57-4801-B211-1B0A4457A4D1@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:00:10 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD3ZntTY5BXeX62-sWwLDRoJQOLCmGR45sO+CrEHP4vEJw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 3
(???) n 5 May 2012 08:07, Denis Bernard <denis.bernard@laposte.net> wrote:
(???) Kim Holviala <kim@...> writes:
(???)
(???) >
(???) > I rule!
(???) >
(???) > gopher://gophernicus.org/1/whatsmyip/
(???) >
(???) > Now onto wondering what to do with the mill... bill... TRILLIONS I'll ma=
(???) e
(???) with this.
(???) >
(???) > - Kim
(???) >
(???)
(???) =A0Your idea to provide IP address with host name and country is good... =
(???) ut
(???) implementation =A0is not compliant with rfc-1436 as you are using the =93=
=94 item
(???) type.
(???)
(???) =A0You should generate your =A0message in a specific text file, hence usi=
(???) g a =930=94
(???) item type.
(???) =A0An alternative implementation could be achieved with a telnet server: =
(???) un a
(???) small program under a Xinetd server is easy to implement! You could write=
(???) a
(???) routine that first reads the xinetd log to know who is connected, then fi=
(???) d
(???) hosname and country and, finally, =A0generate the answer. So, you could u=
(SND) e a =938=94
(???) item type (text-based telnet session).
(???)
(???) =A0I do not like =93i=94 item-type, not only because it is not strictly c=
(???) mpliant to
(???) the standard, but because it is a bad idea for the small devices (like sm=
(???) rt
(???) phones).
(???) Having nice ascii-arts is not good for the readability of menus for this =
(SND) mall
(???) displays! Making drawings in the menus is going in the same way that the =
(???) eb
(???) sites! On my opinion: ascii-arts should migrates from menu to the ABOUT
(???) file. If not, gophersites will remain only for few nostalgic people and c=
(???) uld
(???) run only on desk computers! I sincerely think that Gopher is be more usab=
(???) e on
(???) these small devices than Web because the informations are provided in the
(???) simplest way. Do not miss the opportunity to reach the small devices comp=
(???) ters
(???) area by avoiding this =93i=94 item-type!
(???)
(???) =A0Just for the fun: may be you have on your system the library =93libwww=
(???) 94 from
(???) W3C. This library provides a minimalist web browser for command line (wit=
(HTM) out
(???) curses) =93www=94. Do you know this browser is not only for Web but for G=
(???) pher
(???) protocol too? =A0Run this to have a look at your gophersite:
(???)
(???) www gopher://gophernicus.org/1/
(???)
(???) then, my own gophersite:
(???)
(???) www gopher://oceamer.com/1/
(???)
(???) =A0So, this www browser conforms to the standard rfc-1436 and do not rend=
(???) r the
(???) =93i=94 item-type...
(???)
(???) Regards,
(???) -- Denis
(???)
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) enis, if you read ANY portion of this mailing list, you will find
(???) hat the old RFC is about to become updated, and the i itemtype will
(???) ow become OFFICIAL.
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Fri Jun 01 01:03:31 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:03:31 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so1155853lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.36.132 with SMTP id q4mr840008lbj.63.1338505388489; Thu,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2012 16:03:08 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <20120506164144.c1b2a1441ce25f0c2aaee36d@windows3.de>
(???) eferences: <49FD46EA-3A57-4801-B211-1B0A4457A4D1@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:03:08 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD3LF62nXy6U=rmRyDkypG+fX8WihjKEYurS9UaS0dvBBA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 4
(???) n 6 May 2012 10:41, Dennis Schulmeister <dennis@windows3.de> wrote:
(???) Hello,
(???)
(???) On Sat, 5 May 2012 12:07:12 +0000 (UTC)
(???) Denis Bernard <denis.bernard@laposte.net> wrote:
(???)
(???) > Do not miss the opportunity to reach the small devices computers
(???) > area by avoiding this =93i=94 item-type!
(???)
(???) Now for one moment, let's get real. Gopher has been obsolete even
(???) before this list was created. Even then it has been and it will ever be
(???) an obsolete thing from the past tinkered with by enthusiasts, people
(???) who run old gear just for the fun of it. As I can tell the whole gopher
(???) community has become so small that nearly everybody who runs a server
(???) as well as nearly every user is subscribed to this mailing list.
(???)
(???) So that's it. While gopher might be a good idea with regard to mobile
(???) devices it is very unlikely that anybody will ever care. Even if the
(???) idea of menu-based information services will be resurrected it won't be
(???) gopher. Very likely it well be a new thing based upon a more modern
(???) approach. Think about it. Nowadays embedded devices have more computing
(???) power than many desktop computers from 10 years ago. So get along with
(???) it because it's no problem of the "i" item-type at all.
(???)
(???) Dennis
(???)
(???) --
(???) Dennis Schulmeister - Schifferstr. 1 - 76189 Karlsruhe - Germany
(???) Tel: +49 721/5978883 - Fax: +49 721/5978882 - Mob: +49 152/01994400
(???) Mail: dennis@windows3.de - Web/Gopher: there-is.no-ip.org
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) re you on drugs?!?!?!
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Fri Jun 01 16:58:03 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:58:03 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from gateway09.websitewelcome.com ([67.18.103.4])
(???) eceived: from vanquish.websitewelcome.com (vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) eceived: from [173.55.252.184] (port=56205 helo=[192.168.1.10])
(???) essage-ID: <4FC8D801.2070801@NorthTech.US>
(???) ate: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:56:01 -0700
(???) rom: "Bradley D. Thornton" <Bradley@NorthTech.US>
(???) rganization: NorthTech Computer
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD2dBQW4V3jipUdNLQ3k=GMr+AX5oW-7+CHMPgJvaG01jQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) -Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2
(???) -TagToolbar-Keys: D20120601075601078
(???) -AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse,
(???) -AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) -AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
(???) -AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - NorthTech.US
(???) -BWhitelist: no
(???) -Source:
(???) -Source-Args:
(???) -Source-Dir:
(???) -Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.10]) [173.55.252.184]:56205
(???) -Source-Auth: bradley@northtech.us
(???) -Email-Count: 7
(???) -Source-Cap: dGFsbHNoaXA7dGFsbHNoaXA7dmFucXVpc2gud2Vic2l0ZXdlbGNvbWUuY29t
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 5
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) ash: RIPEMD160
(???) n 05/31/2012 03:55 PM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) On 22 May 2012 21:58, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) The nmap announcement is but one example that belies and contradicts the
(???) naive, prophetic declaration quoted above ;)
(???)
(???) Protocol level software integration occurs when there is a perceived
(???) need for such support. The nmap folks obviously perceive a need.
(???)
(???) Now how do we get the wget devels on board buoys and gulls?
(???)
(???) Kindest regards,
(???)
(???) >
(???) Remember, this is the same mentally challenged individual who wrote a
(???) rambling, incoherent, page-and-a-half long message about the
(???) (non-existent) "security flaws" of caps.txt files. He needs to
(???) remember to take his pills.
(IMG) did no such thing. I support and use caps.txt. And the only meds I
(???) ver took were the fun, illegal kind - and that was over twenty years ago.
(IMG) think you should apologize for that personal attack against my character.
(???) --
(???) radley D. Thornton
(???) anager Network Services
(???) orthTech Computer
(TN3) EL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
(TN3) EL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(TN3) EL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(HTM) ttp://NorthTech.US
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ersion: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) omment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
QEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyNgAAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3CTcH/jQPFZszKeYUUP3FCBsLeqlC
(???) /EJ7QO5TKQb/l6+G3C31tIvpxsKewG9Tjpvh0/cY1DO2uSNDKGkMyvM+Z7UHnXQ
(???) XA9aUqTNSw6iHVpz500fjAEb4WMh5o3jrliiOKERXk3CBKRbWBBKx6/fxRggIP2
(???) ASp55YfMkSIj0Qjgkm7x3wcV0bgSg1bnvmAllWhVtUmSx8m23yZQNczVxhAf3zu
(???) lShkiOMdIY6441fShsDw8W+44OjO026l9wj9Y/ErL4THs5BKYGeaN0PsGy3KueT
(HEX) KAzgfrx8bm3jpcIX+hDJIOuCnrrPCmhSiEqBhhhUAcgC42Y306NTeR3XFkJ0kk=
(???) NFlV
(???) ----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 09:46:31 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:46:31 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so2081572lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.135.200 with SMTP id pu8mr5800761lab.8.1338623162387; Sat,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 00:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FC8D801.2070801@NorthTech.US>
(???) eferences: <49FD46EA-3A57-4801-B211-1B0A4457A4D1@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 03:46:02 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD19BH579VYhgwWcfZEEHAxqQiAr9Rk14W0PZQ8+meTN3w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 6
(???) n 1 June 2012 10:56, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) Hash: RIPEMD160
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) On 05/31/2012 03:55 PM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) > On 22 May 2012 21:58, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > The nmap announcement is but one example that belies and contradicts the
(???) > naive, prophetic declaration quoted above ;)
(???) >
(???) > Protocol level software integration occurs when there is a perceived
(???) > need for such support. The nmap folks obviously perceive a need.
(???) >
(???) > Now how do we get the wget devels on board buoys and gulls?
(???) >
(???) > Kindest regards,
(???) >
(???) >>
(???) > Remember, this is the same mentally challenged individual who wrote a
(???) > rambling, incoherent, page-and-a-half long message about the
(???) > (non-existent) "security flaws" of caps.txt files. =A0He needs to
(???) > remember to take his pills.
(???)
(???) I did no such thing. I support and use caps.txt. And the only meds I
(???) ever took were the fun, illegal kind - and that was over twenty years ago.
(???)
(???) I think you should apologize for that personal attack against my characte=
(???) .
(???)
(???)
(???) - --
(???) Bradley D. Thornton
(???) Manager Network Services
(???) NorthTech Computer
(???) TEL: +1.310.388.9469 =A0(US)
(???) TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(???) TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(???) http://NorthTech.US
(???)
(???) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) Comment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
(???)
(???) iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyNgAAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3CTcH/jQPFZszKeYUUP3FCBsLeqlC
(???) U/EJ7QO5TKQb/l6+G3C31tIvpxsKewG9Tjpvh0/cY1DO2uSNDKGkMyvM+Z7UHnXQ
(???) jXA9aUqTNSw6iHVpz500fjAEb4WMh5o3jrliiOKERXk3CBKRbWBBKx6/fxRggIP2
(???) PASp55YfMkSIj0Qjgkm7x3wcV0bgSg1bnvmAllWhVtUmSx8m23yZQNczVxhAf3zu
(???) nlShkiOMdIY6441fShsDw8W+44OjO026l9wj9Y/ErL4THs5BKYGeaN0PsGy3KueT
(???) 4KAzgfrx8bm3jpcIX+hDJIOuCnrrPCmhSiEqBhhhUAcgC42Y306NTeR3XFkJ0kk=3D
(???) =3DNFlV
(???) -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) ot you, Brad. I was talking about Denis Bernard and Dennis
(???) chulmeister, and I won' t apologise, they're a bunch of morons.
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 09:51:52 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:51:52 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175])
(???) eceived: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so4416516obh.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.193.196 with SMTP id hq4mr3656202igc.57.1338623479092; Sat,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.103.102 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 00:51:18 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD19BH579VYhgwWcfZEEHAxqQiAr9Rk14W0PZQ8+meTN3w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <49FD46EA-3A57-4801-B211-1B0A4457A4D1@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:51:18 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPOXt11-QTjFNk5gEwNenVsyGdNR+9pSgELRkgdh=+O-BQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6029325882687825774=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 7
(???) -===============6029325882687825774==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340e01f5971404c178901c
(???) -14dae9340e01f5971404c178901c
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) eep cool Nick, it's a public list.
(PHO) 012/6/2 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) On 1 June 2012 10:56, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) > Hash: RIPEMD160
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > On 05/31/2012 03:55 PM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) >> On 22 May 2012 21:58, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >> The nmap announcement is but one example that belies and contradicts the
(???) >> naive, prophetic declaration quoted above ;)
(???) >>
(???) >> Protocol level software integration occurs when there is a perceived
(???) >> need for such support. The nmap folks obviously perceive a need.
(???) >>
(???) >> Now how do we get the wget devels on board buoys and gulls?
(???) >>
(???) >> Kindest regards,
(???) >>
(???) >>>
(???) >> Remember, this is the same mentally challenged individual who wrote a
(???) >> rambling, incoherent, page-and-a-half long message about the
(???) >> (non-existent) "security flaws" of caps.txt files. He needs to
(???) >> remember to take his pills.
(???) >
(???) > I did no such thing. I support and use caps.txt. And the only meds I
(???) > ever took were the fun, illegal kind - and that was over twenty years
(???) ago.
(???) >
(???) > I think you should apologize for that personal attack against my
(???) character.
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > - --
(???) > Bradley D. Thornton
(???) > Manager Network Services
(???) > NorthTech Computer
(???) > TEL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
(???) > TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(???) > TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(???) > http://NorthTech.US
(???) >
(???) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) > Comment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
(???) >
(???) > iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyNgAAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3CTcH/jQPFZszKeYUUP3FCBsLeqlC
(???) > U/EJ7QO5TKQb/l6+G3C31tIvpxsKewG9Tjpvh0/cY1DO2uSNDKGkMyvM+Z7UHnXQ
(???) > jXA9aUqTNSw6iHVpz500fjAEb4WMh5o3jrliiOKERXk3CBKRbWBBKx6/fxRggIP2
(???) > PASp55YfMkSIj0Qjgkm7x3wcV0bgSg1bnvmAllWhVtUmSx8m23yZQNczVxhAf3zu
(???) > nlShkiOMdIY6441fShsDw8W+44OjO026l9wj9Y/ErL4THs5BKYGeaN0PsGy3KueT
(???) > 4KAzgfrx8bm3jpcIX+hDJIOuCnrrPCmhSiEqBhhhUAcgC42Y306NTeR3XFkJ0kk=
(???) > =NFlV
(???) > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) Not you, Brad. I was talking about Denis Bernard and Dennis
(???) Schulmeister, and I won' t apologise, they're a bunch of morons.
(???)
(???) --
(???) /^\/^\
(???) \----|
(???) _---'---~~~~-_
(???) ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) (/_ /~~--
(???) \~ \ / /~
(???) __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) \ | | / \
(???) /| |/ | |
(???) | | | o o /~ |
(???) _-~_ | || \ /
(???) (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) //_- | | \
(???) // |____|\______\__\
(???) ~ | / | |
(???) |_ / \ _|
(???) /~___| /____\
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) -
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -14dae9340e01f5971404c178901c
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) eep cool Nick, it's a public list.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2=
(TXT) 12/6/2 Nick Matavka <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.mat=
(???) vka.files@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com<=
(???) a>></span><br>
(???) blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
(???) #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On 1=
(???) June 2012 10:56, Bradley D. Thornton <<a href=3D"mailto:Bradley@northte=
(???) h.us">Bradley@northtech.us</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
(???) gt; Hash: RIPEMD160<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; On 05/31/2012 03:55 PM, Nick Matavka wrote:<br>
(???) gt;> On 22 May 2012 21:58, Bradley D. Thornton <<a href=3D"mailto:Br=
(???) dley@northtech.us">Bradley@northtech.us</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> The nmap announcement is but one example that belies and contradic=
(???) s the<br>
(???) gt;> naive, prophetic declaration quoted above ;)<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> Protocol level software integration occurs when there is a perceiv=
(???) d<br>
(???) gt;> need for such support. The nmap folks obviously perceive a need.<b=
(???) >
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> Now how do we get the wget devels on board buoys and gulls?<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> Kindest regards,<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;>><br>
(???) gt;> Remember, this is the same mentally challenged individual who wrot=
(???) a<br>
(???) gt;> rambling, incoherent, page-and-a-half long message about the<br>
(???) gt;> (non-existent) "security flaws" of caps.txt files. =C2=
(???) A0He needs to<br>
(???) gt;> remember to take his pills.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; I did no such thing. I support and use caps.txt. And the only meds I<b=
(???) >
(???) gt; ever took were the fun, illegal kind - and that was over twenty years =
(???) go.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; I think you should apologize for that personal attack against my chara=
(???) ter.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; - --<br>
(???) gt; Bradley D. Thornton<br>
(???) gt; Manager Network Services<br>
(???) gt; NorthTech Computer<br>
(???) gt; TEL: <a href=3D"tel:%2B1.310.388.9469" value=3D"+13103889469">+1.310.3=
(TEL) 8.9469</a> =C2=A0(US)<br>
(???) gt; TEL: <a href=3D"tel:%2B44.203.318.2755" value=3D"+442033182755">+44.20=
(ERR) .318.2755</a> (UK)<br>
(???) gt; TEL: <a href=3D"tel:%2B41.43.508.05.10" value=3D"+41435080510">+41.43.=
(ARC) 08.05.10</a> (CH)<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://NorthTech.US" target=3D"_blank">http://NorthTech.US<=
(???) a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>
(???) gt; Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>
(???) gt; Comment: Find this cert at x-hkp://<a href=3D"http://pool.sks-keyserve=
(???) s.net" target=3D"_blank">pool.sks-keyservers.net</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyNgAAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3CTcH/jQPFZszKeYUUP3FCBsLeqlC<br>
(???) gt; U/EJ7QO5TKQb/l6+G3C31tIvpxsKewG9Tjpvh0/cY1DO2uSNDKGkMyvM+Z7UHnXQ<br>
(???) gt; jXA9aUqTNSw6iHVpz500fjAEb4WMh5o3jrliiOKERXk3CBKRbWBBKx6/fxRggIP2<br>
(???) gt; PASp55YfMkSIj0Qjgkm7x3wcV0bgSg1bnvmAllWhVtUmSx8m23yZQNczVxhAf3zu<br>
(???) gt; nlShkiOMdIY6441fShsDw8W+44OjO026l9wj9Y/ErL4THs5BKYGeaN0PsGy3KueT<br>
(???) gt; 4KAzgfrx8bm3jpcIX+hDJIOuCnrrPCmhSiEqBhhhUAcgC42Y306NTeR3XFkJ0kk=3D<br>
(???) gt; =3DNFlV<br>
(???) gt; -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Proje=
(???) t@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gop=
(HTM) er-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailm=
(???) n/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) /div></div>Not you, Brad. =C2=A0I was talking about Denis Bernard and Denn=
s<br>
(???) chulmeister, and I won' t apologise, they're a bunch of morons.<br=
(???)
(???) div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
(???) -<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<br>
(???) // )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) /_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) / =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) br>
(???) /div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">_____________________________=
(???) _________________<br>
(???) opher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@li=
(SND) ts.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-p=
(???) oject" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li=
(SND) tinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -14dae9340e01f5971404c178901c--
(???) -===============6029325882687825774==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============6029325882687825774==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 09:57:10 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:57:10 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so2083542lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.135.200 with SMTP id pu8mr5826994lab.8.1338623805619; Sat,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 00:56:45 -0700 (PDT)
(???) ate: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 03:56:45 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD3FORmw5NQ7=NW9fO9ApQiVe20+y2F1uJuHXojDWx6AZQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] Any good programmers on here?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 8
(???) nyone here good with programming, especially Web browsers? I've got
(???) cool vintage Web browser (and Gopher client!) that used to be the
(???) 3C's testbed browser till they pawned it off on Yggdrasil, who
(PNG) romptly disappeared. It' s called Arena and it would be great to see
t turn into Ygg's original vision, a GPL-licenced browser for the X
(???) indow System (uses Motif). I would love to see this browser turn
nto an HTML 3 browser that would be lightweight and super fast,
(SND) omething like Lynx with pretty pictures.
(???) I've got the latest version right here.
(HTM) ttp://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/web/arena_0.3.62.=
(???) rig.tar.gz
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 09:59:06 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:59:06 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so2222166lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.41.2 with SMTP id b2mr3232694lbl.58.1338623922579; Sat, 02
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 00:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CA+JTEPOXt11-QTjFNk5gEwNenVsyGdNR+9pSgELRkgdh=+O-BQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <49FD46EA-3A57-4801-B211-1B0A4457A4D1@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 03:58:42 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD2Ab4Uq=aGdgeS9eUUn9WeL=TkJe0Ttcp6ckdsrBRY1Cg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 9
(???) n 2 June 2012 03:51, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) Keep cool Nick, it's a public list.
(???)
(???)
(???) 2012/6/2 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >
(???) > On 1 June 2012 10:56, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) > > Hash: RIPEMD160
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > > On 05/31/2012 03:55 PM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) > >> On 22 May 2012 21:58, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrot=
(???) :
(???) > >>
(???) > >>
(???) > >>
(???) > >> The nmap announcement is but one example that belies and contradicts
(???) > >> the
(???) > >> naive, prophetic declaration quoted above ;)
(???) > >>
(???) > >> Protocol level software integration occurs when there is a perceived
(???) > >> need for such support. The nmap folks obviously perceive a need.
(???) > >>
(???) > >> Now how do we get the wget devels on board buoys and gulls?
(???) > >>
(???) > >> Kindest regards,
(???) > >>
(???) > >>>
(???) > >> Remember, this is the same mentally challenged individual who wrote a
(???) > >> rambling, incoherent, page-and-a-half long message about the
(???) > >> (non-existent) "security flaws" of caps.txt files. =A0He needs to
(???) > >> remember to take his pills.
(???) > >
(???) > > I did no such thing. I support and use caps.txt. And the only meds I
(???) > > ever took were the fun, illegal kind - and that was over twenty years
(???) > > ago.
(???) > >
(???) > > I think you should apologize for that personal attack against my
(???) > > character.
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > > - --
(???) > > Bradley D. Thornton
(???) > > Manager Network Services
(???) > > NorthTech Computer
(???) > > TEL: +1.310.388.9469 =A0(US)
(???) > > TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(???) > > TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(???) > > http://NorthTech.US
(???) > >
(???) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) > > Comment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
(???) > >
(???) > > iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyNgAAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3CTcH/jQPFZszKeYUUP3FCBsLeqlC
(???) > > U/EJ7QO5TKQb/l6+G3C31tIvpxsKewG9Tjpvh0/cY1DO2uSNDKGkMyvM+Z7UHnXQ
(???) > > jXA9aUqTNSw6iHVpz500fjAEb4WMh5o3jrliiOKERXk3CBKRbWBBKx6/fxRggIP2
(???) > > PASp55YfMkSIj0Qjgkm7x3wcV0bgSg1bnvmAllWhVtUmSx8m23yZQNczVxhAf3zu
(???) > > nlShkiOMdIY6441fShsDw8W+44OjO026l9wj9Y/ErL4THs5BKYGeaN0PsGy3KueT
(???) > > 4KAzgfrx8bm3jpcIX+hDJIOuCnrrPCmhSiEqBhhhUAcgC42Y306NTeR3XFkJ0kk=3D
(???) > > =3DNFlV
(???) > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) > >
(???) > > _______________________________________________
(???) > > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >
(???) > Not you, Brad. =A0I was talking about Denis Bernard and Dennis
(???) > Schulmeister, and I won' t apologise, they're a bunch of morons.
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) --
(???) Damien CAROL
(???) gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(IMG) 'm sorry Brad, but when I see that someone is spouting bovine faeces,
(IMG) feel the need to get some toilet tissue and gently wipe their mouth
(???) ith it.
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 15:45:54 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:45:54 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so2296976lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.46.101 with SMTP id u5mr3505685lbm.21.1338644728431; Sat,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 06:45:28 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1205290856470.5575@web.home>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD0xvX7qEkdo+LZx7m52onm+Vp9DSWGNN1VKSfKio3yqAQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:45:28 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD3BsCrtWy=4pN0kjXS9hzba_LD7_YZAhX9Jm=fzHOdidw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Mosaic-CK and gopher supportq
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 10
(???) n 29 May 2012 03:20, Jacob Dahl Pind <rachael@telefisk.org> wrote:
(???) On Mon, 28 May 2012, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) <snip>
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > All this talk about Mosaic and Gopher has given me an idea. =A0The UI
(???) > for Mosaic is actually pretty nice; I like it. =A0Now that it also
(???) > supports Gopher, I was wondering about the feasibility of Mosaic
(???) > stripped down so as to support only Gopher, with bookmark support,
(???) > let's call it M-Gopher, or Mosgopher. =A0The size of it would shrink,
(???) > since it wouldn't need HTTP (not that the Mosaic HTTP rendition is any
(???) > good imho, even compared to Lynx).
(???)
(???)
(???) It havent just learned gopher, it has known that since the
(???) begining, hurl and i type is what was added.
(???)
(???) sizewise we are looking at this:
(???)
(???) -rwxr-xr-x 1 rachael users 1867964 May 29 08:55 Mosaic*
(???)
(???) A stipped Mosaic-ck takes up 1.8mb, are we really to low on memory that it
(???) would be meaningful to start and poke away at libwww2 to remove anything =
(???) ut
(???) gopher form it ?
(???) Would be easier to start from scratch, mosaic has a lot crud in there, you
(???) could spend an ethernety untangling the spagitty, and still be left with =
(???) ll
(???) the holes.
(???)
(???)
(???) --
(???) Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:230/38.8
(???)
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) ell in that case forget I said anything.
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 17:26:39 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:26:39 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from gateway03.websitewelcome.com ([69.93.205.21])
(???) eceived: from vanquish.websitewelcome.com (vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) eceived: from [173.55.252.184] (port=59415 helo=[192.168.1.10])
(???) essage-ID: <4FCA3098.20303@NorthTech.US>
(???) ate: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:26:16 -0700
(???) rom: "Bradley D. Thornton" <Bradley@NorthTech.US>
(???) rganization: NorthTech Computer
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD19BH579VYhgwWcfZEEHAxqQiAr9Rk14W0PZQ8+meTN3w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) -Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2
(???) -TagToolbar-Keys: D20120602082616041
(???) -AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse,
(???) -AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) -AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
(???) -AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - NorthTech.US
(???) -BWhitelist: no
(???) -Source:
(???) -Source-Args:
(???) -Source-Dir:
(???) -Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.10]) [173.55.252.184]:59415
(???) -Source-Auth: bradley@northtech.us
(???) -Email-Count: 4
(???) -Source-Cap: dGFsbHNoaXA7dGFsbHNoaXA7dmFucXVpc2gud2Vic2l0ZXdlbGNvbWUuY29t
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] What's my IP address in gopher!
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 11
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) ash: RIPEMD160
(???) n 06/02/2012 12:46 AM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) Not you, Brad. I was talking about Denis Bernard and Dennis
(???) Schulmeister, and I won' t apologise, they're a bunch of morons.
(???) H, oic. np :)
(???) --
(???) radley D. Thornton
(???) anager Network Services
(???) orthTech Computer
(TN3) EL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
(TN3) EL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(TN3) EL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(HTM) ttp://NorthTech.US
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ersion: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) omment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
QEbBAEBAwAGBQJPyjCXAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3jHMH91+bieNnIwQl5guYQaieVC76
(???) 4OmGbW4caV6Wa4UHab+dRJNMbLmLhsbxbR3G8T6forZ/tBTBd0JPcuNNzLMAcpk
(???) I9ai9u48AKBjQQ7Str0FJedlpuqugMwPIOakZExFNltftd9dMhmYwA8rXMpcC29
(???) LPEK5hSnmJAZyH7QIpE05iOzo3Ilt/byT8+j6M7OL7A2A/7OvGO2W7uUoE9EsJ5
(QRY) VNJTbAGLifBydFwWOtyoZ0I6b4Yd64o0Zg9xahhA71TtEVniy5CRYXeviyjNiga
(???) wGSYIN3qoH2Oh344UN1WI8JFeAXnRTnLNWI5QlU4bHqu8HTprv2L6+EFuBsYg==
(???) l2LO
(???) ----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 17:37:45 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:37:45 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from gateway06.websitewelcome.com ([69.93.179.18])
(???) eceived: from vanquish.websitewelcome.com (vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) eceived: from [173.55.252.184] (port=35198 helo=[192.168.1.10])
(???) essage-ID: <4FCA3333.1050506@NorthTech.US>
(???) ate: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:37:23 -0700
(???) rom: "Bradley D. Thornton" <Bradley@NorthTech.US>
(???) rganization: NorthTech Computer
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3FORmw5NQ7=NW9fO9ApQiVe20+y2F1uJuHXojDWx6AZQ@mail.gmail.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD3FORmw5NQ7=NW9fO9ApQiVe20+y2F1uJuHXojDWx6AZQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) -Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2
(???) -TagToolbar-Keys: D20120602083723596
(???) -AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse,
(???) -AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) -AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
(???) -AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - NorthTech.US
(???) -BWhitelist: no
(???) -Source:
(???) -Source-Args:
(???) -Source-Dir:
(???) -Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.10]) [173.55.252.184]:35198
(???) -Source-Auth: bradley@northtech.us
(???) -Email-Count: 5
(???) -Source-Cap: dGFsbHNoaXA7dGFsbHNoaXA7dmFucXVpc2gud2Vic2l0ZXdlbGNvbWUuY29t
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Any good programmers on here?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 12
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) ash: RIPEMD160
(???) n 06/02/2012 12:56 AM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) I've got
(???) a cool vintage Web browser (and Gopher client!) that used to be the
(???) W3C's testbed browser till they pawned it off on Yggdrasil, who
(???) promptly disappeared.
(???) owza! LGX! I used to base my ISP services on that and Jolix when it
(???) ecame impossible to keep the Vaxen alive LOL!
(IMG) 've actually got the first few releases of Yggdrasil, and the first two
(???) ditions of "The Linux Bible - The GNU Testament", on my bookshelf...
(HTM) m... let's see here....
(???) all 93 - Linux Kernel version 0.99.13
(???) ummer 94 and Fall 94 too.
(IMG) 've got one of them running as a VM, which I fire up sometimes, and
(???) hen there's my collection of old 386 boxes w/8bit ISA Ethernet NICs in
(???) y Sea Container that are presumably operational if I just plug them in :)
(TN3) hat's totally kewl Nick! I didn't know that about the browser though. I
(SND) poke to Adam a couple of times back then, and have tried to find out
(???) hat happened to him (and Phil Hughes - original publisher of LJ, who I
(???) think* left the industry and moved to Panama or something) but the
(???) rail dead ends everywhere I look.
(???) ou have a great idea there though.
(IMG) t' s called Arena and it would be great to see
(???) it turn into Ygg's original vision, a GPL-licenced browser for the X
(???) Window System (uses Motif). I would love to see this browser turn
(???) into an HTML 3 browser that would be lightweight and super fast,
(???) something like Lynx with pretty pictures.
(???)
(???) I've got the latest version right here.
(???) http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/web/arena_0.3.62.orig.tar.gz
(???)
(???) --
(???) radley D. Thornton
(???) anager Network Services
(???) orthTech Computer
(TN3) EL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
(TN3) EL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(TN3) EL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(HTM) ttp://NorthTech.US
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ersion: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) omment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
QEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyjMzAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3/6sH/juiIrwm0K3adE5psPMtIClW
(???) MUVPconIdBomxKf+ZW5Y3XTC9PjwN0jYi8qiNVGMFFUyOXawHwHZLixg+WBFG5i
(???) SYFCjAx3tEqXo0I8zbqJuYb/c2osmnyirNH8aBpN+0ooTJTK3EiOnEsjcfrCkDo
(???) qmb7edcA9sIhRO0GWeGXGqy5j89aWbisNQtcSybOKWr+PLzhsTdmFgKXeDmpjpx
(???) w0JY2f0spHCQmc8BuxeATkF8X8zS+vT9qakk2c8HGJXsYDyuN+yM3qSgSDmPKet
(UUE) LZjGUOdNLAEG4Bw1G0zxOuolQ0UNkewnkHrEezQWctAduPpM42wWNzE3zIoeO8=
(???) Yypc
(???) ----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 19:52:37 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:52:37 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so2232389lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.148.199 with SMTP id tu7mr7116577lab.43.1338659527169;
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:52:07 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FCA3333.1050506@NorthTech.US>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3FORmw5NQ7=NW9fO9ApQiVe20+y2F1uJuHXojDWx6AZQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:52:07 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD0WwLmmnrf6JcLwmcu_uJePQKgEP2Pzg-upwOnNpOF9+g@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Any good programmers on here?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 13
(???) n 2 June 2012 11:37, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) Hash: RIPEMD160
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) On 06/02/2012 12:56 AM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) > I've got
(???) > a cool vintage Web browser (and Gopher client!) that used to be the
(???) > W3C's testbed browser till they pawned it off on Yggdrasil, who
(???) > promptly disappeared.
(???)
(???) That's totally kewl Nick! I didn't know that about the browser though. I
(???) spoke to Adam a couple of times back then, and have tried to find out
(???) what happened to him (and Phil Hughes - original publisher of LJ, who I
(???) *think* left the industry and moved to Panama or something) but the
(???) trail dead ends everywhere I look.
(???)
(???) You have a great idea there though.
(???)
(???)
(???) It' s called Arena and it would be great to see
(???) > it turn into Ygg's original vision, a GPL-licenced browser for the X
(???) > Window System (uses Motif). =A0I would love to see this browser turn
(???) > into an HTML 3 browser that would be lightweight and super fast,
(???) > something like Lynx with pretty pictures.
(???) >
(???) > =A0I've got the latest version right here.
(???) > http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/web/arena_0.3.=
(UUE) 2.orig.tar.gz
(???) >
(???)
(???) - --
(???) Bradley D. Thornton
(???) Manager Network Services
(???) NorthTech Computer
(???) TEL: +1.310.388.9469 =A0(US)
(???) TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(???) TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(???) http://NorthTech.US
(???) et's get this straight. Are you saying that further development of
(???) his software is anything close to a serious possibility?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 02 22:36:54 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:36:54 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so2407958lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.145.41 with SMTP id sr9mr7331003lab.25.1338669379356; Sat,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:36:19 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FCA3333.1050506@NorthTech.US>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3FORmw5NQ7=NW9fO9ApQiVe20+y2F1uJuHXojDWx6AZQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:36:19 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD3N928Tz_oxMdhYqq0G0LHKURt6ow-oM-tvsNA-sT5Jnw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Any good programmers on here?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 14
(???) n 2 June 2012 11:37, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) Hash: RIPEMD160
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) On 06/02/2012 12:56 AM, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) > I've got
(???) > a cool vintage Web browser (and Gopher client!) that used to be the
(???) > W3C's testbed browser till they pawned it off on Yggdrasil, who
(???) > promptly disappeared.
(???)
(???) Yowza! LGX! I used to base my ISP services on that and Jolix when it
(???) became impossible to keep the Vaxen alive LOL!
(???)
(???) I've actually got the first few releases of Yggdrasil, and the first two
(???) editions of "The Linux Bible - The GNU Testament", on my bookshelf...
(???)
(???) hm... let's see here....
(???)
(???) Fall 93 - Linux Kernel version 0.99.13
(???)
(???) Summer 94 and Fall 94 too.
(???)
(???) I've got one of them running as a VM, which I fire up sometimes, and
(???) then there's my collection of old 386 boxes w/8bit ISA Ethernet NICs in
(???) my Sea Container that are presumably operational if I just plug them in :)
(???)
(???) That's totally kewl Nick! I didn't know that about the browser though. I
(???) spoke to Adam a couple of times back then, and have tried to find out
(???) what happened to him (and Phil Hughes - original publisher of LJ, who I
(???) *think* left the industry and moved to Panama or something) but the
(???) trail dead ends everywhere I look.
(???)
(???) You have a great idea there though.
(???)
(???)
(???) It' s called Arena and it would be great to see
(???) > it turn into Ygg's original vision, a GPL-licenced browser for the X
(???) > Window System (uses Motif). =A0I would love to see this browser turn
(???) > into an HTML 3 browser that would be lightweight and super fast,
(???) > something like Lynx with pretty pictures.
(???) >
(???) > =A0I've got the latest version right here.
(???) > http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/web/arena_0.3.=
(UUE) 2.orig.tar.gz
(???) >
(???)
(???) - --
(???) Bradley D. Thornton
(???) Manager Network Services
(???) NorthTech Computer
(???) TEL: +1.310.388.9469 =A0(US)
(???) TEL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(???) TEL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(???) http://NorthTech.US
(???)
(???) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) Comment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
(???)
(???) iQEcBAEBAwAGBQJPyjMzAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3/6sH/juiIrwm0K3adE5psPMtIClW
(???) PMUVPconIdBomxKf+ZW5Y3XTC9PjwN0jYi8qiNVGMFFUyOXawHwHZLixg+WBFG5i
(???) kSYFCjAx3tEqXo0I8zbqJuYb/c2osmnyirNH8aBpN+0ooTJTK3EiOnEsjcfrCkDo
(???) wqmb7edcA9sIhRO0GWeGXGqy5j89aWbisNQtcSybOKWr+PLzhsTdmFgKXeDmpjpx
(???) Ew0JY2f0spHCQmc8BuxeATkF8X8zS+vT9qakk2c8HGJXsYDyuN+yM3qSgSDmPKet
(???) 6LZjGUOdNLAEG4Bw1G0zxOuolQ0UNkewnkHrEezQWctAduPpM42wWNzE3zIoeO8=3D
(???) =3DYypc
(???) -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) ow that I've mentally woken up, I have something more coherent for you.
(???) es, Arena was taken up by the same corporation that assembled LGX
(???) assuming you are talking about what would today be called a Linux
(???) ive CD). Yeah, Adam Richter certainly was a man ahead of his time.
(???) ity Arena was discontinued; it has its problems, sure, but it's
(???) ightweight, Gopher-compatible, and open-source, as a browser should
(???) e. Mosaic-CK as written is not too bad, but I feel that an
(???) lternative might actually be viable. Then again, I have a soft spot
(???) or old software (not so much old hardware). I mean, it must be
nsane to use alpine as a mail client, lynx as a web/gopher client,
(???) tytter for tweeting, NCSA Mosaic when one needs "pretty pictures" on
(???) he web, and ditto for GopherVR, and all this on a brand spanking new
(???) acBook Pro, but there I am, eh? Actually, I skipped the craziest
(PNG) art: I edit in TECO (yes, the old tape editor for the PDP-10),
(???) nyway, I don't know if it's insanity or nostalgia, but I feel that
(???) ggdrasil's vision is still as much of a possibility now as it was
(???) hirteen years ago, and, for some even more insane reason, I'd love to
(???) ind out. I don't feel like messing with Yggdrasil's plan; this thing
(DOC) oesn't need today's bells and whistles on it---it just needs to be
(SND) table and compatible with *simple* Web pages (Facebook is OUT).
(???) ypothetically speaking, of course.
(???) - Nick.
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 05:07:21 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:07:21 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so2980750lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.104.171 with SMTP id gf11mr19424276lab.5.1339470404305;
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:06:44 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <201205141941.q4EJf5Bp8978550@floodgap.com>
(???) eferences: <CA+JTEPPKqxTfTTi_DBJmjGO+r+FScM99qZWTcbHp1TLmzTiF1g@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:06:44 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD0cNtY-qA4UZHt6x=bd4tGrKvtNQz+Y+rsBWP5HGjuLtQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Finally: Chrome extensions have real sockets
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 15
(???) n 14 May 2012 15:41, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) > > It's only in Canary. But finally we can ditch the proxy kludge and
(???) > > Overbite Chrome can be a real gopher client just like OverbiteFF.
(???) > >
(???) > > http://blog.alexmaccaw.com/chrome-tcp-udp
(???) >
(???) > Chrome will be definitively a back door...
(???)
(???) Well, it's just extensions, so it's nothing different than Firefox. Mysel=
(???) I
(???) actually like Firefox's approach better because it becomes an actual comp=
(???) nent
(???) in the system (OverbiteFF implements an XPCOM object), but this will still
(???) suffice. The API is allegedly in flux though.
(???)
(???) --
(???) ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.c=
(???) m/ --
(???) =A0Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodga=
(PNG) .com
(???) -- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing, but mean your mother. -----=
(???) -----
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(IMG) s there a version of Overbite for Canary that works like this? Is it comi=
(???) g?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 05:14:04 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:14:04 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so65922lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.41.2 with SMTP id b2mr4167347lbl.58.1339470820340; Mon, 11
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:13:40 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <3232.50.73.56.22.1328158054.squirrel@mail.missing.com>
(???) eferences: <4F24F835.8000409@r-36.net>
(???) ate: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:13:40 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD1qEj3efzwzmK3W2V440N7WYWBODbHJ=HkQ7EfEPPZoXA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: danny@missing.com,
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] FreeArchie
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status: A
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 16
(???) n 1 February 2012 23:47, danny <danny@missing.com> wrote:
(???) I received an email from Alan Emtage yesterday regarding the actual
(???) sources to the commercial version from many years ago. =A0He has recently
(???) sent a tape with the sources to the computer history museum in San Jose to
(???) see if they can be read.
(???)
(???) Sounds very likely we may get to have a peek at the commercial version
(???) source if it can be read (He still holds the rights)
(???)
(???) > Hello.
(???) >
(???) > danny wrote:
(???) >> You had to remind me of that - ARRGH!! lol
(???) >>
(???) >> I have it somewhere around here (ran it at missing years ago). =A0I will
(???) >> roll through a few boxes and see if I can find it (it's either on one of
(???) >> the OG Sparcstations, Tatung, or Solbourne boxes). =A0How fast do you n=
(???) ed
(???) >> it? =A0May take me a bit to spool some of these old boxes back up.
(???) >
(???) > My request is for historical reasons. It doesn't hurry, but
(???) > if the source is public, then it may be archived for further
(???) > generations.
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > Sincerely,
(???) >
(???) > Christoph Lohmann
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(IMG) know I might sound like a total idiot, but since there is basically
(???) nly one server that runs Archie on the entire internet, suppose one
(???) ishes to look for a file and doesn't know which FTP server has it.
(???) hat does one do to locate this file today?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 05:28:22 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:28:22 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so70784lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.147.33 with SMTP id th1mr19622779lab.9.1339471679756; Mon,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:27:59 -0700 (PDT)
(???) ate: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:27:59 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] 32-bit gopher software/clients/browsers?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 17
(???) ello, world!
(IMG) have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that
(???) ere written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge
n software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher
(???) tc.) Do any exist?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 05:46:03 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:46:03 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.213.175])
(???) eceived: by yenl13 with SMTP id l13so2917608yen.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.87.227 with SMTP id bb3mr7396189igb.57.1339472726929; Mon,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.103.102 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:45:26 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:45:26 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPOmjYZgRPZGY+opy2Fntj8N5ngoBXxK7wHVyF9Zct42oA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9173949184451770018=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] 32-bit gopher software/clients/browsers?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 18
(???) -===============9173949184451770018==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3ba4d313310f04c23e4c13
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d313310f04c23e4c13
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(IMG) made one.
(IMG) t's beta but works well.
(???) ERE => gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser
(???) egards,
(PHO) 012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) Hello, world!
(???)
(???) I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that
(???) were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge
(???) in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher
(???) etc.) Do any exist?
(???)
(???) --
(???) /^\/^\
(???) \----|
(???) _---'---~~~~-_
(???) ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) (/_ /~~--
(???) \~ \ / /~
(???) __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) \ | | / \
(???) /| |/ | |
(???) | | | o o /~ |
(???) _-~_ | || \ /
(???) (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) //_- | | \
(???) // |____|\______\__\
(???) ~ | / | |
(???) |_ / \ _|
(???) /~___| /____\
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) -
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d313310f04c23e4c13
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(IMG) made one.<br><br>It's beta but works well.<br><br>HERE =3D> <a hre=
(???) =3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser">gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/go=
(GIF) oph-browser</a><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012=
(???) 6/12 Nick Matavka <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matav=
(???) a.files@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a=
(???) ></span><br>
(???) blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
(???) #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello, world!<br>
(???) br>
(IMG) have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that<br>
(???) ere written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge<br>
n software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher<br>
(???) tc.) =C2=A0Do any exist?<br>
(???) br>
(???) -<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<br>
(???) // )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) /_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) / =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) br>
(???) ______________________________________________<br>
(???) opher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@li=
(SND) ts.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-p=
(???) oject" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li=
(SND) tinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) /blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CAROL<br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d313310f04c23e4c13--
(???) -===============9173949184451770018==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============9173949184451770018==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 08:11:34 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:11:34 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so3039360lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.99.98 with SMTP id ep2mr4368035lbb.45.1339481471097; Mon,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:11:11 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CA+JTEPOmjYZgRPZGY+opy2Fntj8N5ngoBXxK7wHVyF9Zct42oA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:11:11 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD149Uj1_x_2eisi2hAjE9eouvkmC_8-p2p2YqD2CLd_ew@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] 32-bit gopher software/clients/browsers?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 19
(???) n 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) I made one.
(???)
(???) It's beta but works well.
(???)
(???) HERE =3D> gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser
(???)
(???)
(???) Regards,
(???)
(???) 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >
(???) > Hello, world!
(???) >
(???) > I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that
(???) > were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge
(???) > in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher
(???) > etc.) =A0Do any exist?
(???) >
(???) > --
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) > =A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) > =A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) > =A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) > =A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) > =A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) > =A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) > =A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) > (// )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) > //_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) > // =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) > ~ =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) --
(???) Damien CAROL
(???) gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) h, Damien, thank you, but I was looking for historical Gopher
(???) lients---old ones, in other words.
(???) OWEVER... I found my answer somewhere else (WS-Gopher 32) and am now
(???) ooking for CURRENT (new) Gopher clients. I am compiling an archive
(???) f old gopher clients and a list of new ones.
(???) hat about for the Mac? Are there any standalone new gopher clients
(???) or the Mac?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 08:19:42 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:19:42 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so3042245lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.112.138 with SMTP id iq10mr19683580lab.13.1339481950056;
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:19:10 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CA+JTEPOmjYZgRPZGY+opy2Fntj8N5ngoBXxK7wHVyF9Zct42oA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:19:10 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD2R51yCML3Y6w46PxAb4LWq1dHnL1jHyCVL+wM2psTt=w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] 32-bit gopher software/clients/browsers?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 20
(???) n 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) I made one.
(???)
(???) It's beta but works well.
(???)
(???) HERE =3D> gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser
(???)
(???)
(???) Regards,
(???)
(???) 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >
(???) > Hello, world!
(???) >
(???) > I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that
(???) > were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge
(???) > in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher
(???) > etc.) =A0Do any exist?
(???) >
(???) > --
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) > =A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) > =A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) > =A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) > =A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) > =A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) > =A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) > =A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) > (// )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) > //_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) > // =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) > ~ =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) > =A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) --
(???) Damien CAROL
(???) gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) ey Damien:
(???) our server thinks my client is ugly and doesn't want to give it some
(GIF) ood ol' fashioned lovin'. It just keeps brushing it off with a
(???) Connection refused!" How can I impress your server? ;-)
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 09:28:38 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:28:38 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-yw0-f47.google.com ([209.85.213.47])
(???) eceived: by yhjj56 with SMTP id j56so3030527yhj.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.140.70 with SMTP id re6mr7805366igb.23.1339486081920; Tue,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.103.102 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:28:01 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD2R51yCML3Y6w46PxAb4LWq1dHnL1jHyCVL+wM2psTt=w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:28:01 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPOz8jXBhyfC8FaYvPpZ2mftLGHr6TMZoTU77EDTdE03MA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7160885263177784093=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] 32-bit gopher software/clients/browsers?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 21
(???) -===============7160885263177784093==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f923b9c182e5804c241687b
(???) -e89a8f923b9c182e5804c241687b
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) nalysing that...
(PHO) 012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) On 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) > I made one.
(???) >
(???) > It's beta but works well.
(???) >
(???) > HERE => gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > Regards,
(???) >
(???) > 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >>
(???) >> Hello, world!
(???) >>
(???) >> I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that
(???) >> were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge
(???) >> in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher
(???) >> etc.) Do any exist?
(???) >>
(???) >> --
(???) >> /^\/^\
(???) >> \----|
(???) >> _---'---~~~~-_
(???) >> ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) >> (/_ /~~--
(???) >> \~ \ / /~
(???) >> __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) >> \ | | / \
(???) >> /| |/ | |
(???) >> | | | o o /~ |
(???) >> _-~_ | || \ /
(???) >> (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) >> //_- | | \
(???) >> // |____|\______\__\
(???) >> ~ | / | |
(???) >> |_ / \ _|
(???) >> /~___| /____\
(???) >>
(???) >> _______________________________________________
(???) >> Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) >> Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > --
(???) > Damien CAROL
(???) > gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) Hey Damien:
(???)
(???) Your server thinks my client is ugly and doesn't want to give it some
(???) good ol' fashioned lovin'. It just keeps brushing it off with a
(???) "Connection refused!" How can I impress your server? ;-)
(???)
(???) --
(???) /^\/^\
(???) \----|
(???) _---'---~~~~-_
(???) ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) (/_ /~~--
(???) \~ \ / /~
(???) __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) \ | | / \
(???) /| |/ | |
(???) | | | o o /~ |
(???) _-~_ | || \ /
(???) (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) //_- | | \
(???) // |____|\______\__\
(???) ~ | / | |
(???) |_ / \ _|
(???) /~___| /____\
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) -
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -e89a8f923b9c182e5804c241687b
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) nalysing that...<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/6/12 Nick Matavka =
(???) span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com"=
(???) target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>></span><br><bl=
(???) ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
(???) cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) div class=3D"im">On 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <<a href=3D"mailto=
(???) damien.carol@gmail.com">damien.carol@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) /div><div><div class=3D"h5">> I made one.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; It's beta but works well.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; HERE =3D> gopher://<a href=3D"http://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browse=
(???) " target=3D"_blank">dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; Regards,<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@=
(GIF) mail.com">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>><br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> Hello, world!<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) t=
(HTM) at<br>
(???) gt;> were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resu=
(???) ge<br>
(???) gt;> in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher<=
(???) r>
(???) gt;> etc.) =C2=A0Do any exist?<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> --<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br=
(???)
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<b=
(???) >
(???) gt;> (// )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) gt;> //_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) gt;> // =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) gt;> ~ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt;> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt;> <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-P=
(???) oject@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt;> <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo=
(???) gopher-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/m=
(???) ilman/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; --<br>
(???) gt; Damien CAROL<br>
(???) gt; gopher://<a href=3D"http://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">dams.z=
(???) pto.org/1/</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Proje=
(???) t@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gop=
(HTM) er-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailm=
(???) n/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) /div></div>Hey Damien:<br>
(???) br>
(???) our server thinks my client is ugly and doesn't want to give it some<b=
(???) >
(GIF) ood ol' fashioned lovin'. =C2=A0It just keeps brushing it off with=
(???) a<br>
(???) quot;Connection refused!" =C2=A0How can I impress your server? =C2=A0=
(???) -)<br>
(???) div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
(???) -<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<br>
(???) // )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) /_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) / =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) br>
(???) ______________________________________________<br>
(???) opher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@li=
(SND) ts.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-p=
(???) oject" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li=
(SND) tinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -e89a8f923b9c182e5804c241687b--
(???) -===============7160885263177784093==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============7160885263177784093==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 09:36:14 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:36:14 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.213.175])
(???) eceived: by yenl13 with SMTP id l13so2976957yen.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.140.70 with SMTP id re6mr7811545igb.23.1339486543109; Tue,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.103.102 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CA+JTEPOz8jXBhyfC8FaYvPpZ2mftLGHr6TMZoTU77EDTdE03MA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:35:43 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPMAeHwr8W_WJkvoyg1ar1yKUU-usD_4r+V24w8g6727OQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4289790697439561518=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] 32-bit gopher software/clients/browsers?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 22
(???) -===============4289790697439561518==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f923b9c955e8e04c24183fc
(???) -e89a8f923b9c955e8e04c24183fc
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) erver down. I restarted it.
(PHO) 012/6/12 Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(???) Analysing that...
(???)
(???)
(???) 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???)
(???) > On 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) > > I made one.
(???) > >
(???) > > It's beta but works well.
(???) > >
(???) > > HERE => gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > > Regards,
(???) > >
(???) > > 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) > >>
(???) > >> Hello, world!
(???) > >>
(???) > >> I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that
(???) > >> were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge
(???) > >> in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher
(???) > >> etc.) Do any exist?
(???) > >>
(???) > >> --
(???) > >> /^\/^\
(???) > >> \----|
(???) > >> _---'---~~~~-_
(???) > >> ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) > >> (/_ /~~--
(???) > >> \~ \ / /~
(???) > >> __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) > >> \ | | / \
(???) > >> /| |/ | |
(???) > >> | | | o o /~ |
(???) > >> _-~_ | || \ /
(???) > >> (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) > >> //_- | | \
(???) > >> // |____|\______\__\
(???) > >> ~ | / | |
(???) > >> |_ / \ _|
(???) > >> /~___| /____\
(???) > >>
(???) > >> _______________________________________________
(???) > >> Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > >> Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > > --
(???) > > Damien CAROL
(???) > > gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) > >
(???) > > _______________________________________________
(???) > > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >
(???) > Hey Damien:
(???) >
(???) > Your server thinks my client is ugly and doesn't want to give it some
(???) > good ol' fashioned lovin'. It just keeps brushing it off with a
(???) > "Connection refused!" How can I impress your server? ;-)
(???) >
(???) > --
(???) > /^\/^\
(???) > \----|
(???) > _---'---~~~~-_
(???) > ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) > (/_ /~~--
(???) > \~ \ / /~
(???) > __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) > \ | | / \
(???) > /| |/ | |
(???) > | | | o o /~ |
(???) > _-~_ | || \ /
(???) > (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) > //_- | | \
(???) > // |____|\______\__\
(???) > ~ | / | |
(???) > |_ / \ _|
(???) > /~___| /____\
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) --
(???) Damien CAROL
(???) gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???)
(???) -
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -e89a8f923b9c955e8e04c24183fc
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) erver down. I restarted it.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/6/12 Da=
(???) ien Carol <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:damien.carol@gmail.com" =
(???) arget=3D"_blank">damien.carol@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote clas=
(SND) =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
(DOC) ing-left:1ex">
(???) nalysing that...<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=
(???) 3D"gmail_quote">2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
lto:n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matav=
(???) a.files@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
(???) blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
(???) #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) div>On 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <<a href=3D"mailto:damien.carol=
(???) gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">damien.carol@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) /div><div><div>> I made one.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; It's beta but works well.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; HERE =3D> gopher://<a href=3D"http://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browse=
(???) " target=3D"_blank">dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; Regards,<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@=
(GIF) mail.com" target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>><br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> Hello, world!<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) t=
(HTM) at<br>
(???) gt;> were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resu=
(???) ge<br>
(???) gt;> in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher<=
(???) r>
(???) gt;> etc.) =C2=A0Do any exist?<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> --<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br=
(???)
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<b=
(???) >
(???) gt;> (// )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) gt;> //_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) gt;> // =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) gt;> ~ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt;> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt;> <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" target=
(???) 3D"_blank">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt;> <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo=
(???) gopher-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/m=
(???) ilman/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; --<br>
(???) gt; Damien CAROL<br>
(???) gt; gopher://<a href=3D"http://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">dams.z=
(???) pto.org/1/</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" target=3D"_b=
(???) ank">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gop=
(HTM) er-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailm=
(???) n/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) /div></div>Hey Damien:<br>
(???) br>
(???) our server thinks my client is ugly and doesn't want to give it some<b=
(???) >
(GIF) ood ol' fashioned lovin'. =C2=A0It just keeps brushing it off with=
(???) a<br>
(???) quot;Connection refused!" =C2=A0How can I impress your server? =C2=A0=
(???) -)<br>
(???) div><div><br>
(???) -<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<br>
(???) // )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) /_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) / =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) br>
(???) ______________________________________________<br>
(???) opher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" target=3D"_blank"=
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-p=
(???) oject" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li=
(SND) tinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -e89a8f923b9c955e8e04c24183fc--
(???) -===============4289790697439561518==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============4289790697439561518==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 09:51:49 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:51:49 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from 3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk ([90.185.242.181] helo=telefisk.org)
(???) eceived: from rachael by telefisk.org with local (Exim 4.77)
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:51:30 +0200 (CEST)
(???) rom: Jacob Dahl Pind <rachael@telefisk.org>
(???) -X-Sender: rachael@web.home
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD1qEj3efzwzmK3W2V440N7WYWBODbHJ=HkQ7EfEPPZoXA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) essage-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1206120948280.18568@web.home>
(???) eferences: <4F24F835.8000409@r-36.net>
(???) ser-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23)
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] FreeArchie
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 23
(???) n Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) I know I might sound like a total idiot, but since there is basically
(???) only one server that runs Archie on the entire internet, suppose one
(???) wishes to look for a file and doesn't know which FTP server has it.
(???) What does one do to locate this file today?
(GIF) oogle "index of ftp/" or "inurl:ftp -inurl:(http|https)" along with your
(SND) earch word(s)
(???) -
(???) acob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:230/38.8
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 10:34:43 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:34:43 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-gh0-f175.google.com ([209.85.160.175])
(???) eceived: by ghbz2 with SMTP id z2so2994019ghb.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.87.227 with SMTP id bb3mr7607413igb.57.1339490052359; Tue,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.103.102 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:34:12 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CA+JTEPMAeHwr8W_WJkvoyg1ar1yKUU-usD_4r+V24w8g6727OQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2+cTvJMajArwNCwxMyS2FOx6+ppYpaS2Wvam3sPgak9w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:34:12 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPMZX=9ji+FuBMwNG+vFDrHEPeCW6mqS3GYbtoPz8KSviQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4977410062279638236=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] 32-bit gopher software/clients/browsers?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 24
(???) -===============4977410062279638236==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3ba4d3c0467b04c242544a
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d3c0467b04c242544a
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) erver was not started due to maitenance update.
(PHO) 012/6/12 Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(???) Server down. I restarted it.
(???)
(???)
(???) 2012/6/12 Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(???)
(???) > Analysing that...
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >
(???) >> On 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) >> > I made one.
(???) >> >
(???) >> > It's beta but works well.
(???) >> >
(???) >> > HERE => gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> > Regards,
(???) >> >
(???) >> > 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> Hello, world!
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) that
(???) >> >> were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resurge
(???) >> >> in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher
(???) >> >> etc.) Do any exist?
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> --
(???) >> >> /^\/^\
(???) >> >> \----|
(???) >> >> _---'---~~~~-_
(???) >> >> ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) >> >> (/_ /~~--
(???) >> >> \~ \ / /~
(???) >> >> __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) >> >> \ | | / \
(???) >> >> /| |/ | |
(???) >> >> | | | o o /~ |
(???) >> >> _-~_ | || \ /
(???) >> >> (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) >> >> //_- | | \
(???) >> >> // |____|\______\__\
(???) >> >> ~ | / | |
(???) >> >> |_ / \ _|
(???) >> >> /~___| /____\
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> _______________________________________________
(???) >> >> Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) >> >> Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >> >>
(???) >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> > --
(???) >> > Damien CAROL
(???) >> > gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) >> >
(???) >> > _______________________________________________
(???) >> > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) >> > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >>
(???) >> Hey Damien:
(???) >>
(???) >> Your server thinks my client is ugly and doesn't want to give it some
(???) >> good ol' fashioned lovin'. It just keeps brushing it off with a
(???) >> "Connection refused!" How can I impress your server? ;-)
(???) >>
(???) >> --
(???) >> /^\/^\
(???) >> \----|
(???) >> _---'---~~~~-_
(???) >> ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) >> (/_ /~~--
(???) >> \~ \ / /~
(???) >> __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) >> \ | | / \
(???) >> /| |/ | |
(???) >> | | | o o /~ |
(???) >> _-~_ | || \ /
(???) >> (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) >> //_- | | \
(???) >> // |____|\______\__\
(???) >> ~ | / | |
(???) >> |_ / \ _|
(???) >> /~___| /____\
(???) >>
(???) >> _______________________________________________
(???) >> Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) >> Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) >>
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > --
(???) > Damien CAROL
(???) > gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) >
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) --
(???) Damien CAROL
(???) gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???)
(???) -
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d3c0467b04c242544a
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) erver was not started due to maitenance update.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
(???) quote">2012/6/12 Damien Carol <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dami=
(???) n.carol@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">damien.carol@gmail.com</a>></span>=
(???) br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
(???) :1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) erver down. I restarted it.<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br><br=
(???) <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/6/12 Damien Carol <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a=
(???) href=3D"mailto:damien.carol@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">damien.carol@gmai=
(???) .com</a>></span><br>
(???) blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
(???) #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) nalysing that...<div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/6/12 Nic=
(???) Matavka <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@=
(GIF) mail.com" target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>></sp=
(???) n><br>
(???) blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
(???) #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) div>On 11 June 2012 23:45, Damien Carol <<a href=3D"mailto:damien.carol=
(???) gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">damien.carol@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) /div><div><div>> I made one.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; It's beta but works well.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; HERE =3D> gopher://<a href=3D"http://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browse=
(???) " target=3D"_blank">dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; Regards,<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; 2012/6/12 Nick Matavka <<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@=
(GIF) mail.com" target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>><br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> Hello, world!<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> I have been looking around for any gopher clients (aka browsers) t=
(HTM) at<br>
(???) gt;> were written for 32-bit Windows, or Windows NT 4+, before the resu=
(???) ge<br>
(???) gt;> in software development of genus Geomyidae (such as Matjaz gopher<=
(???) r>
(???) gt;> etc.) =C2=A0Do any exist?<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> --<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br=
(???)
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<b=
(???) >
(???) gt;> (// )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) gt;> //_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) gt;> // =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) gt;> ~ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) gt;> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt;> Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt;> <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" target=
(???) 3D"_blank">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt;> <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo=
(???) gopher-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/m=
(???) ilman/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; --<br>
(???) gt; Damien CAROL<br>
(???) gt; gopher://<a href=3D"http://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">dams.z=
(???) pto.org/1/</a><br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" target=3D"_b=
(???) ank">Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gop=
(HTM) er-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailm=
(???) n/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) /div></div>Hey Damien:<br>
(???) br>
(???) our server thinks my client is ugly and doesn't want to give it some<b=
(???) >
(GIF) ood ol' fashioned lovin'. =C2=A0It just keeps brushing it off with=
(???) a<br>
(???) quot;Connection refused!" =C2=A0How can I impress your server? =C2=A0=
(???) -)<br>
(???) div><div><br>
(???) -<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<br>
(???) // )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) /_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) / =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) br>
(???) ______________________________________________<br>
(???) opher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org" target=3D"_blank"=
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-p=
(???) oject" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li=
(SND) tinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d3c0467b04c242544a--
(???) -===============4977410062279638236==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============4977410062279638236==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 10:37:26 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:37:26 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.213.175])
(???) eceived: by yenl13 with SMTP id l13so2996915yen.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.87.227 with SMTP id bb3mr7609559igb.57.1339490218974; Tue,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.103.102 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:36:58 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CA+JTEPOFPf-OPZuQjRDy3-5eSMWL9b2E+yj0xC1m4mzabP5sQg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CA+JTEPOFPf-OPZuQjRDy3-5eSMWL9b2E+yj0xC1m4mzabP5sQg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:36:58 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPMfDpGbjfZtt93xMwoU8uEE0Mwi1ZeR3gpcwbZ5OCzcjg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8098024770147470428=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Soo sad today...
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 25
(???) -===============8098024770147470428==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3ba4d3ae9cb104c2425e4c
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d3ae9cb104c2425e4c
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) uess what ?
(???) ETGEAR send me a new one !!!
(???) fter many mails to NETGEAR support (europe).
(TN3) hey sent me a new one.
(IMG) pluged old hard drives and... it worked !
(TN3) he data and config is here ! :D
(IMG) T'S A GOOD DAY !!!!
(PHO) 012/5/19 Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(???) my NAS is out...
(???)
(???)
(???) 4To fo data lost :/
(???)
(???) !!! NetGEAR ReadyNAS RND4000 !!!
(???)
(???) --
(???) Damien CAROL
(???) gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???)
(???) -
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d3ae9cb104c2425e4c
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) uess what ?<br><br>NETGEAR send me a new one !!!<br><br>After many mails t=
(???) NETGEAR support (europe).<br><br>They sent me a new one.<br><br>I pluged =
(???) ld hard drives and... it worked !<br><br>The data and config is here !=C2=
(???) A0 :D=C2=A0 <br>
(???) br>IT'S A GOOD DAY !!!! <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/5/19 D=
(???) mien Carol <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:damien.carol@gmail.com"=
(???) target=3D"_blank">damien.carol@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote cla=
(SND) s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
(DOC) ding-left:1ex">
(???) y NAS is out...<br><br><br>4To fo data lost=C2=A0 :/<br><br>!!! NetGEAR Re=
(???) dyNAS RND4000 !!!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br clear=
(???) 3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CAROL<br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) /font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CA=
(???) OL<br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d3ae9cb104c2425e4c--
(???) -===============8098024770147470428==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============8098024770147470428==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 12 12:32:25 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:32:25 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from one.holviala.com ([84.239.242.93] helo=mail.holviala.com)
(???) eceived: from air.local (unknown
(???) essage-ID: <4FD71A45.9000207@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:30:29 +0300
(???) rom: Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com>
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] Gophernicus 1.3 released
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 26
(IMG) just finished and released Teh Absolutely Greatest!!111!! gopher
(SND) erver in the known universe, Gophernicus 1.3.
(???) ince there was one off-by-one I recommend people to upgrade from older
(???) ersions. I don't think it was exploitable since the data being
(???) verwritten wasn't user-controllable, but you never know...
(???) lso, if you're trying to run Gophernicus on MacOSX Lion I strongly
(???) ecommend you upgrade to 1.3 as older versions just didn't work right.
(???) hanges from 1.3:
(???) * Support for headerless HTTP/0.9
(???) * Code cleanups
(???) * Platform probing now knows about RedHat and Slackware
(???) * lsb_release no longer gets called if it doesn't exist
(???) (bugreport from Jacob Dahl Pind)
(???) * Changed menu errors from type "i" text to type "3"
(???) (bugreport from Damien Carol)
(???) * Removed the special OSX Carbonized build
(???) * Fixed a bug in menu.c: popen() needs pclose()
(???) * Fixed a off-by-one in gopher_filetype()
(???) * Changed the filetype of documents (doc/ps/pdf) to "d"
(???) Kim
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 16 00:29:04 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:29:04 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so3074717lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.104.171 with SMTP id gf11mr7039865lab.5.1339799321010;
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:28:40 -0700 (PDT)
(???) ate: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:28:40 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD0mq=s3jM2qi3+XcgJa17U__RHhJRsSjq68wpDRkEkhqA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] Matjaz Gopher
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 27
(IMG) know I probably sound like a Welsh carrot (moron) saying this, but
(HTM) ere goes: Matjaz Mesnjak has an excellent graphical gopher client,
(???) hich is apparently open source. Try as I might though I can't find
(???) he source code distribution, just the binaries. Anyone got a lead on
t?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 16 01:08:04 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 01:08:04 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47])
(???) eceived: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so2283576lag.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.99.98 with SMTP id ep2mr3346327lbb.45.1339801651234; Fri,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:07:30 -0700 (PDT)
(???) ate: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:07:30 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD2NUw7yotmgE-aDEDcyUX9rwQzmM83TFC5tjV98nWEkvQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] Gopher software
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status: A
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 28
(???) drlow ,olleH
(???) ould I have a list of Gopher software currently being maintained? I
(???) m especially interested in software for Windows and UN*X (Mac and
(???) inux), but I would also welcome names and sites of software for
(???) lassic Mac, Commodore 64, Amiga, and what have you. Here's what I
(???) now at the moment:
(???) lients:
(???) atjaz gopher (Windows) -- https://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gophercli=
(???) nt
(???) igger Dwarf (Windows, UN*X) --
(HTM) ttp://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/software/ddwarf/
(???) yperLink (C64) -- http://www.armory.com/~spectre/cwi/hl/
(???) nnamed C64 client (C64) -- http://retrohackers.com/viewtopic.php?f=3D5&t=
(???) 3D472
(???) ynx (x-platform) -- http://lynx.isc.org/
(???) osaic-CK (UN*X) -- http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/machten/mosaic/
(???) opherVR (UN*X) -- http://www.floodgap.com/software/gophervr/
(???) ogoph (?) -- gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser OR
(HTM) ttps://github.com/damiencarol/gogoph
(???) ervers:
(???) ftershock -- http://aftershock.sourceforge.net/
(???) eomyidae -- gopher://gopher.r-36.net/1/geomyidae.gph
(???) N -- http://freshmeat.net/projects/gn/
(???) oFish -- http://gofish.sourceforge.net/
(???) ophernicus -- gopher://gophernicus.org/1/software/gophernicus/server/
(???) ophrier -- http://gophrier.tuxfamily.org/
(???) ophserv -- gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net/1/gophserv
(???) opher Cannon (Windows) -- gopher://gopher.pcrpg.org/
(???) oscher -- gopher://gopher.sacrideo.us/1/goscher
(???) rumpy -- gopher://gopher.viste-family.net/1/grumpy
(???) god -- gopher://port70.net/1mgod
(???) yGD -- http://gurno.com/dru/?q=3Dnode/153
(???) otsognir -- gopher://gopher.viste-family.net/1/projects/motsognir/
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 16 09:50:51 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:50:51 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-we0-f175.google.com ([74.125.82.175])
(???) eceived: by werg55 with SMTP id g55so2455685wer.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) eceived: by 10.216.216.226 with SMTP id g76mr4519860wep.221.1339833026915;
(???) eceived: from [192.168.2.130] (188-230-178-67.dynamic.t-2.net.
(???) essage-ID: <4fdc3ac1.ea51b40a.613c.ffffb96b@mx.google.com>
(TN3) o: "=?utf-8?B?R29waGVyIFByb2plY3QgRGlzY3Vzc2lvbg==?="
(???) rom: "=?utf-8?B?bWF0amF6ODVAZ21haWwuY29t?=" <matjaz85@gmail.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:50:24 +0200
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2000506246818403004=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] =?utf-8?q?Odg=3A__Matjaz_Gopher?=
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 29
(???) -===============2000506246818403004==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative;
(???) -----=_Part_0_1339833024818
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain;
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: base64
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) W91IGRpZG4ndCBmaW5kIGl0IGJlY2F1c2UgSSBuZXZlciB1cGxvYWRlZCBpdC4gSXQgd2FzIChh
(???) mQgc3RpbGwgaXMpIGEgYml0IG1lc3N5LiBCdXQgaWYgeW91IHdhbnQgaXQgYW55d2F5IEkgY2Fu
(IMG) HNlbmQgaXQgdG8geW91IChvciB1cGxvYWQgaXQgc29tZXdoZXJlKS4KCk1hdGphxb4KCi0tLS0t
(IMG) FJlcGx5IG1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0KT2Q6ICJOaWNrIE1hdGF2a2EiIDxuLnRoZW9kb3JlLm1hdGF2
(???) 2EuZmlsZXNAZ21haWwuY29tPgpaYTogIkdvcGhlciBQcm9qZWN0IERpc2N1c3Npb24iIDxnb3Bo
(???) XItcHJvamVjdEBsaXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZz4KWmFkZXZhOiBbZ29waGVyXSBNYXRq
(???) XogR29waGVyCkRhdHVtOiBzb2IuLCBqdW4uIDE2LCAyMDEyIDAwOjI4CgoKSSBrbm93IEkgcHJv
(???) mFibHkgc291bmQgbGlrZSBhIFdlbHNoIGNhcnJvdCAobW9yb24pIHNheWluZyB0aGlzLCBidXQK
(???) GVyZSBnb2VzOiBNYXRqYXogTWVzbmphayBoYXMgYW4gZXhjZWxsZW50IGdyYXBoaWNhbCBnb3Bo
(???) XIgY2xpZW50LAp3aGljaCBpcyBhcHBhcmVudGx5IG9wZW4gc291cmNlLiAgVHJ5IGFzIEkgbWln
(???) HQgdGhvdWdoIEkgY2FuJ3QgZmluZAp0aGUgc291cmNlIGNvZGUgZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9uLCBqdXN0
(IMG) HRoZSBiaW5hcmllcy4gIEFueW9uZSBnb3QgYSBsZWFkIG9uCml0PwoKLS0gCsKgIMKgIMKgIMKg
(???) 15cL15cCsKgIMKgIMKgIMKgXC0tLS18CsKgIMKgXy0tLSctLS1+fn5+LV8KwqAgwqAgfn5+fH5+
(TN3) H58fn5+fgrCoCDCoCDCoCDCoCgvXyDCoC9+fi0tCsKgIMKgIMKgXH4gXCDCoC8gwqAvfgrCoCDC
(???) F9fflwgwqB+IC8gwqAgfn4tLS0tLArCoCDCoFwgwqAgwqB8IHwgwqAgwqAgwqAgLyDCoFwKwqAg
(???) qAvfCDCoCB8LyDCoCDCoCDCoCB8IMKgIMKgfArCoCDCoHwgfCB8IG8gwqBvIMKgIMKgIC9+IMKg
(IMG) HwKwqBfLX5fIMKgfCDCoCDCoCDCoCDCoHx8IMKgXCDCoC8KKC8vICkpIHwgbyDCoG8gwqAgwqBc
(???) C0tLScKLy9fLSB8IMKgfCDCoCDCoCDCoCDCoCDCoFwKLy8gwqAgfF9fX198XF9fX19fX1xfX1wK
(???) iDCoCDCoCDCoHwgwqAgLyB8IMKgIMKgfArCoCDCoCDCoCDCoHxfIC8gwqAgXCBffArCoCDCoCDC
(???) C9+X19ffCDCoC9fX19fXAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f
(???) 19fX19fX18KR29waGVyLVByb2plY3QgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0CkdvcGhlci1Qcm9qZWN0QGxpc3Rz
(???) mFsaW90aC5kZWJpYW4ub3JnCmh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZy9jZ2ktYmlu
(???) 21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZ29waGVyLXByb2plY3QK
(???) -----=_Part_0_1339833024818
(???) ontent-Type: text/html;
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: base64
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) W91IGRpZG4mIzM5O3QgZmluZCBpdCBiZWNhdXNlIEkgbmV2ZXIgdXBsb2FkZWQgaXQuIEl0IHdh
(???) yAoYW5kIHN0aWxsIGlzKSBhIGJpdCBtZXNzeS4gQnV0IGlmIHlvdSB3YW50IGl0IGFueXdheSBJ
(IMG) GNhbiBzZW5kIGl0IHRvIHlvdSAob3IgdXBsb2FkIGl0IHNvbWV3aGVyZSkuPGJyPjxicj5NYXRq
(???) cW+PGJyPjxicj4tLS0tLSBSZXBseSBtZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tPGJyPk9kOiAmcXVvdDtOaWNrIE1h
(DOC) GF2a2EmcXVvdDsgJmx0O24udGhlb2RvcmUubWF0YXZrYS5maWxlc0BnbWFpbC5jb20mZ3Q7PGJy
(???) lphOiAmcXVvdDtHb3BoZXIgUHJvamVjdCBEaXNjdXNzaW9uJnF1b3Q7ICZsdDtnb3BoZXItcHJv
(???) mVjdEBsaXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZyZndDs8YnI+WmFkZXZhOiBbZ29waGVyXSBNYXRq
(???) XogR29waGVyPGJyPkRhdHVtOiBzb2IuLCBqdW4uIDE2LCAyMDEyIDAwOjI4PGJyPjxicj48YnI+
(???) SBrbm93IEkgcHJvYmFibHkgc291bmQgbGlrZSBhIFdlbHNoIGNhcnJvdCAobW9yb24pIHNheWlu
(???) yB0aGlzLCBidXQ8YnI+aGVyZSBnb2VzOiBNYXRqYXogTWVzbmphayBoYXMgYW4gZXhjZWxsZW50
(IMG) GdyYXBoaWNhbCBnb3BoZXIgY2xpZW50LDxicj53aGljaCBpcyBhcHBhcmVudGx5IG9wZW4gc291
(???) mNlLiAmbmJzcDtUcnkgYXMgSSBtaWdodCB0aG91Z2ggSSBjYW4mIzM5O3QgZmluZDxicj50aGUg
(???) 291cmNlIGNvZGUgZGlzdHJpYnV0aW9uLCBqdXN0IHRoZSBiaW5hcmllcy4gJm5ic3A7QW55b25l
(IMG) GdvdCBhIGxlYWQgb248YnI+aXQ/PGJyPjxicj4tLSA8YnI+wqAgwqAgwqAgwqAvXlwvXlw8YnI+
(???) qAgwqAgwqAgwqBcLS0tLXw8YnI+wqAgwqBfLS0tJiMzOTstLS1+fn5+LV88YnI+wqAgwqAgfn5+
(???) H5+TH58fn5+fjxicj7CoCDCoCDCoCDCoCgvXyDCoC9+fi0tPGJyPsKgIMKgIMKgXH4gXCDCoC8g
(???) qAvfjxicj7CoCDCoF9fflwgwqB+IC8gwqAgfn4tLS0tLDxicj7CoCDCoFwgwqAgwqB8IHwgwqAg
(???) qAgwqAgLyDCoFw8YnI+wqAgwqAvfCDCoCB8LyDCoCDCoCDCoCB8IMKgIMKgfDxicj7CoCDCoHwg
(???) CB8IG8gwqBvIMKgIMKgIC9+IMKgIHw8YnI+wqBfLX5fIMKgfCDCoCDCoCDCoCDCoHx8IMKgXCDC
(???) C88YnI+KC8vICkpIHwgbyDCoG8gwqAgwqBcXC0tLSYjMzk7PGJyPi8vXy0gfCDCoHwgwqAgwqAg
(???) qAgwqAgwqBcPGJyPi8vIMKgIHxfX19ffFxfX19fX19cX19cPGJyPn4gwqAgwqAgwqB8IMKgIC8g
(???) CDCoCDCoHw8YnI+wqAgwqAgwqAgwqB8XyAvIMKgIFwgX3w8YnI+wqAgwqAgwqAvfl9fX3wgwqAv
(???) 19fX1w8YnI+PGJyPl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f
(???) 19fPGJyPkdvcGhlci1Qcm9qZWN0IG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdDxicj5Hb3BoZXItUHJvamVjdEBsaXN0
(???) y5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZzxicj5odHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuYWxpb3RoLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcvY2dp
(???) WJpbi9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2dvcGhlci1wcm9qZWN0PGJyPg==
(???) -----=_Part_0_1339833024818--
(???) -===============2000506246818403004==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============2000506246818403004==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 16 10:11:51 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:11:51 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-we0-f175.google.com ([74.125.82.175])
(???) eceived: by werg55 with SMTP id g55so2463245wer.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) eceived: by 10.180.94.4 with SMTP id cy4mr10056765wib.2.1339834286662;
(???) eceived: from matjaz-mac.dev (188-230-178-67.dynamic.t-2.net.
(???) ime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278)
(???) rom: MatjazM <matjaz85@gmail.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD2NUw7yotmgE-aDEDcyUX9rwQzmM83TFC5tjV98nWEkvQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:11:24 +0200
(???) essage-Id: <24DD99C7-5DC9-483A-9D20-F464A1F7A0F4@gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2NUw7yotmgE-aDEDcyUX9rwQzmM83TFC5tjV98nWEkvQ@mail.gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278)
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Gopher software
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 30
(???) n 16. jun. 2012, at 01:07, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) !drlow ,olleH
(???) =
(???) Could I have a list of Gopher software currently being maintained? I
(???) am especially interested in software for Windows and UN*X (Mac and
(???) Linux), but I would also welcome names and sites of software for
(???) classic Mac, Commodore 64, Amiga, and what have you. Here's what I
(???) know at the moment:
(???) ice list! I would add some software from here:
(HTM) ttp://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/soft/util/gopher/
(GIF) opher://iubio.bio.indiana.edu/11/IUBio-Software+Data/util/gopher
(TN3) hey have gopher client and server (their own modification of standard goph=
(???) r+ server) They also have a gopher site - one of few from the actual gophe=
(???) era.
(???) nd another nice client for DOS:
(HTM) ttp://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/gopher.htm
(???) atja=9E
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 16 11:02:47 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:02:47 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from gateway02.websitewelcome.com ([74.52.222.226])
(???) eceived: by gateway02.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007)
(???) eceived: from vanquish.websitewelcome.com (vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) eceived: from [173.55.252.184] (port=45216 helo=[192.168.1.10])
(???) essage-ID: <4FDC4B9B.3020202@NorthTech.US>
(???) ate: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 02:02:19 -0700
(???) rom: "Bradley D. Thornton" <Bradley@NorthTech.US>
(???) rganization: NorthTech Computer
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) eferences: <4fdc3ac1.ea51b40a.613c.ffffb96b@mx.google.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4fdc3ac1.ea51b40a.613c.ffffb96b@mx.google.com>
(???) -Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2
(???) -TagToolbar-Keys: D20120616020219509
(???) -AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse,
(???) -AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) -AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
(???) -AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - NorthTech.US
(???) -BWhitelist: no
(???) -Source:
(???) -Source-Args:
(???) -Source-Dir:
(???) -Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.10]) [173.55.252.184]:45216
(???) -Source-Auth: bradley@northtech.us
(???) -Email-Count: 1
(???) -Source-Cap: dGFsbHNoaXA7dGFsbHNoaXA7dmFucXVpc2gud2Vic2l0ZXdlbGNvbWUuY29t
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: base64
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Odg: Matjaz Gopher
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 31
(???) S0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQpIYXNoOiBSSVBFTUQxNjAKCgoKT24g
(???) DYvMTYvMjAxMiAxMjo1MCBBTSwgbWF0amF6ODVAZ21haWwuY29tIHdyb3RlOgo+IFlvdSBkaWRu
(???) 3QgZmluZCBpdCBiZWNhdXNlIEkgbmV2ZXIgdXBsb2FkZWQgaXQuIEl0IHdhcyAoYW5kIHN0aWxs
(IMG) GlzKSBhIGJpdCBtZXNzeS4gQnV0IGlmIHlvdSB3YW50IGl0IGFueXdheSBJIGNhbiBzZW5kIGl0
(IMG) HRvIHlvdSAob3IgdXBsb2FkIGl0IHNvbWV3aGVyZSkuCj4gCj4gTWF0amHFvgo+IAoKSSB3b3Vs
(???) CBsaWtlIGEgY29weSB0b28gaWYgaXQgaXNuJ3QgdG9vIG11Y2ggdHJvdWJsZSBNYXRqYXouCgpU
(???) GFua3MgOikKCj4gLS0tLS0gUmVwbHkgbWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tLQo+IE9kOiAiTmljayBNYXRhdmth
(IMG) iA8bi50aGVvZG9yZS5tYXRhdmthLmZpbGVzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KPiBaYTogIkdvcGhlciBQcm9q
(???) WN0IERpc2N1c3Npb24iIDxnb3BoZXItcHJvamVjdEBsaXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZz4K
(???) iBaYWRldmE6IFtnb3BoZXJdIE1hdGpheiBHb3BoZXIKPiBEYXR1bTogc29iLiwganVuLiAxNiwg
(???) jAxMiAwMDoyOAo+IAo+IAo+IEkga25vdyBJIHByb2JhYmx5IHNvdW5kIGxpa2UgYSBXZWxzaCBj
(???) XJyb3QgKG1vcm9uKSBzYXlpbmcgdGhpcywgYnV0Cj4gaGVyZSBnb2VzOiBNYXRqYXogTWVzbmph
(???) yBoYXMgYW4gZXhjZWxsZW50IGdyYXBoaWNhbCBnb3BoZXIgY2xpZW50LAo+IHdoaWNoIGlzIGFw
(???) GFyZW50bHkgb3BlbiBzb3VyY2UuICBUcnkgYXMgSSBtaWdodCB0aG91Z2ggSSBjYW4ndCBmaW5k
(???) j4gdGhlIHNvdXJjZSBjb2RlIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbiwganVzdCB0aGUgYmluYXJpZXMuICBBbnlv
(???) mUgZ290IGEgbGVhZCBvbgo+IGl0Pwo+IAo+IAo+IAo+IAo+IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f
(???) 19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCj4gR29waGVyLVByb2plY3QgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0
(???) j4gR29waGVyLVByb2plY3RAbGlzdHMuYWxpb3RoLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcKPiBodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMu
(???) Wxpb3RoLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcvY2dpLWJpbi9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2dvcGhlci1wcm9qZWN0
(???) gotIC0tIApCcmFkbGV5IEQuIFRob3JudG9uCk1hbmFnZXIgTmV0d29yayBTZXJ2aWNlcwpOb3J0
(???) FRlY2ggQ29tcHV0ZXIKVEVMOiArMS4zMTAuMzg4Ljk0NjkgIChVUykKVEVMOiArNDQuMjAzLjMx
(???) C4yNzU1IChVSykKVEVMOiArNDEuNDMuNTA4LjA1LjEwIChDSCkKaHR0cDovL05vcnRoVGVjaC5V
(???) woKLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC4xMCAo
(???) 05VL0xpbnV4KQpDb21tZW50OiBGaW5kIHRoaXMgY2VydCBhdCB4LWhrcDovL3Bvb2wuc2tzLWtl
(???) XNlcnZlcnMubmV0CgppUUVjQkFFQkF3QUdCUUpQM0V1YkFBb0pFRTF3Z2tJaHI5ajNSc2NIL2lR
(???) EE1UnZmcW1Zc0pmWTZ0eitTNnhiCm9Cc3I4L2NWWXFEcjN1OVhMeHFGOW42Z0pzSHorS0xkblFM
(???) nhZeXhZRzlreVJUTUJsd0pGWEI0c054Qk9jQ3gKdlVoUThQVHFoamNlQ0ZYdEFZWTIrdFlvYW5i
(???) WlHTzBNd1lpQ1I0NDMraHBnZzZEdXVZRWV6SWVCVFNBR0dWZwpPazAvWDVaK3JyRWJBYXZXdlVk
(???) 0NRcHNLZ1hMblVwaHNTMGw5Z3VlL0ZKcE9vL0Z2S1ZPWlBMQzUrdXFmM3BTCitYMVVtc1l5TDdC
(???) jV0STR3WHhHcUF0dURITy8wb0dVZ0JvNXdFcnJLY0gzWFBwTHFSSnpyMVlYVDlacHNTeEoKdkhV
(TN3) jFrZ3BMejFFK1h0aEd6YWlkQXRHdzA1RzdEK2pieTZmUmE3c3ptTFVKQTBPSmxFM2plS3NYRkgx
(???) E1RPQo9SjRWZAotLS0tLUVORCBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f
(???) 19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkdvcGhlci1Qcm9qZWN0IG1haWxpbmcgbGlz
(DOC) ApHb3BoZXItUHJvamVjdEBsaXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZwpodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuYWxp
(???) 3RoLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcvY2dpLWJpbi9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2dvcGhlci1wcm9qZWN0
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sat Jun 16 16:28:01 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:28:01 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from 3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk ([90.185.242.181] helo=telefisk.org)
(???) eceived: from rachael by telefisk.org with local (Exim 4.77)
(???) ate: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:27:32 +0200 (CEST)
(???) rom: Jacob Dahl Pind <rachael@telefisk.org>
(???) -X-Sender: rachael@web.home
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD2NUw7yotmgE-aDEDcyUX9rwQzmM83TFC5tjV98nWEkvQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) essage-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1206161553220.17883@web.home>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD2NUw7yotmgE-aDEDcyUX9rwQzmM83TFC5tjV98nWEkvQ@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ser-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23)
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Gopher software
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 32
(???) lients for amiga
(HTM) ttp://aminet.net/comm/tcp/BBGopher10.lha
(HTM) ttp://aminet.net/comm/net/AmigaNOSGW6.lzh
(HTM) ttp://aminet.net/comm/tcp/gopher.lha
(???) special the nos one is interessting as its an extented classical KA9Q nos
(???) hat let an external program access tcp/ip.
(???) nother of those type where the rhinos
(GIF) opher://telefisk.org/9/amiga/nos/rhinossrc.lha was trying to offer a
(SND) tandart bsd socket interface and sana2 network drivers.
(???) he Web browsers - ibrowser, aweb, voyager, amoasic, alynx all does
(GIF) opher also.
(GIF) ofish excists in a amiga version, and I made a umn gopherd port, and
(???) simple one in arexx.
(???) ny of the unix ones shouldnt be to hard to make a amiga version for a os
(PHO) .x+ machines.
(???) or nos/jnos there where patches so they included a gopher server also,
(SND) hould work on any of the platforms where nos ran also.
(???) tp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/jnos/www.zip
(???) -
(???) acob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:230/38.8
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Sun Jun 17 00:57:36 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:57:36 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so3412330lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.36.132 with SMTP id q4mr4398222lbj.63.1339887429619; Sat,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:57:09 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FDC4B9B.3020202@NorthTech.US>
(???) eferences: <4fdc3ac1.ea51b40a.613c.ffffb96b@mx.google.com>
(???) ate: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:57:09 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD0REpgTyiCASEW=auPzo-q3SnvD9n-2JX_75M407T8Kjg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: base64
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Odg: Matjaz Gopher
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 33
(???) WVzLCBwbGVhc2UsIE1hdGphei4KCk9uIDE2IEp1bmUgMjAxMiAwNTowMiwgQnJhZGxleSBELiBU
(???) G9ybnRvbiA8QnJhZGxleUBub3J0aHRlY2gudXM+IHdyb3RlOgo+IC0tLS0tQkVHSU4gUEdQIFNJ
(???) 05FRCBNRVNTQUdFLS0tLS0KPiBIYXNoOiBSSVBFTUQxNjAKPgo+Cj4KPiBPbiAwNi8xNi8yMDEy
(IMG) DEyOjUwIEFNLCBtYXRqYXo4NUBnbWFpbC5jb20gd3JvdGU6Cj4+IFlvdSBkaWRuJ3QgZmluZCBp
(DOC) CBiZWNhdXNlIEkgbmV2ZXIgdXBsb2FkZWQgaXQuIEl0IHdhcyAoYW5kIHN0aWxsIGlzKSBhIGJp
(DOC) CBtZXNzeS4gQnV0IGlmIHlvdSB3YW50IGl0IGFueXdheSBJIGNhbiBzZW5kIGl0IHRvIHlvdSAo
(???) 3IgdXBsb2FkIGl0IHNvbWV3aGVyZSkuCj4+Cj4+IE1hdGphxb4KPj4KPgo+IEkgd291bGQgbGlr
(???) SBhIGNvcHkgdG9vIGlmIGl0IGlzbid0IHRvbyBtdWNoIHRyb3VibGUgTWF0amF6Lgo+Cj4gVGhh
(???) mtzIDopCj4KPj4gLS0tLS0gUmVwbHkgbWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tLQo+PiBPZDogIk5pY2sgTWF0YXZr
(???) SIgPG4udGhlb2RvcmUubWF0YXZrYS5maWxlc0BnbWFpbC5jb20+Cj4+IFphOiAiR29waGVyIFBy
(???) 2plY3QgRGlzY3Vzc2lvbiIgPGdvcGhlci1wcm9qZWN0QGxpc3RzLmFsaW90aC5kZWJpYW4ub3Jn
(???) go+PiBaYWRldmE6IFtnb3BoZXJdIE1hdGpheiBHb3BoZXIKPj4gRGF0dW06IHNvYi4sIGp1bi4g
(???) TYsIDIwMTIgMDA6MjgKPj4KPj4KPj4gSSBrbm93IEkgcHJvYmFibHkgc291bmQgbGlrZSBhIFdl
(???) HNoIGNhcnJvdCAobW9yb24pIHNheWluZyB0aGlzLCBidXQKPj4gaGVyZSBnb2VzOiBNYXRqYXog
(TN3) WVzbmphayBoYXMgYW4gZXhjZWxsZW50IGdyYXBoaWNhbCBnb3BoZXIgY2xpZW50LAo+PiB3aGlj
(???) CBpcyBhcHBhcmVudGx5IG9wZW4gc291cmNlLiDCoFRyeSBhcyBJIG1pZ2h0IHRob3VnaCBJIGNh
(???) id0IGZpbmQKPj4gdGhlIHNvdXJjZSBjb2RlIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbiwganVzdCB0aGUgYmluYXJp
(???) XMuIMKgQW55b25lIGdvdCBhIGxlYWQgb24KPj4gaXQ/Cj4+Cj4+Cj4+Cj4+Cj4+IF9fX19fX19f
(???) 19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCj4+IEdvcGhlci1Qcm9qZWN0
(IMG) G1haWxpbmcgbGlzdAo+PiBHb3BoZXItUHJvamVjdEBsaXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZwo+
(???) iBodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuYWxpb3RoLmRlYmlhbi5vcmcvY2dpLWJpbi9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZv
(???) 2dvcGhlci1wcm9qZWN0Cj4KPiAtIC0tCj4gQnJhZGxleSBELiBUaG9ybnRvbgo+IE1hbmFnZXIg
(TN3) mV0d29yayBTZXJ2aWNlcwo+IE5vcnRoVGVjaCBDb21wdXRlcgo+IFRFTDogKzEuMzEwLjM4OC45
(???) DY5IMKgKFVTKQo+IFRFTDogKzQ0LjIwMy4zMTguMjc1NSAoVUspCj4gVEVMOiArNDEuNDMuNTA4
(???) jA1LjEwIChDSCkKPiBodHRwOi8vTm9ydGhUZWNoLlVTCj4KPiAtLS0tLUJFR0lOIFBHUCBTSUdO
(???) VRVUkUtLS0tLQo+IFZlcnNpb246IEdudVBHIHYxLjQuMTAgKEdOVS9MaW51eCkKPiBDb21tZW50
(???) iBGaW5kIHRoaXMgY2VydCBhdCB4LWhrcDovL3Bvb2wuc2tzLWtleXNlcnZlcnMubmV0Cj4KPiBp
(???) UVjQkFFQkF3QUdCUUpQM0V1YkFBb0pFRTF3Z2tJaHI5ajNSc2NIL2lRWEE1UnZmcW1Zc0pmWTZ0
(???) itTNnhiCj4gb0JzcjgvY1ZZcURyM3U5WEx4cUY5bjZnSnNIeitLTGRuUUxieFl5eFlHOWt5UlRN
(???) mx3SkZYQjRzTnhCT2NDeAo+IHZVaFE4UFRxaGpjZUNGWHRBWVkyK3RZb2FuYjlpR08wTXdZaUNS
(???) DQzK2hwZ2c2RHV1WUVlekllQlRTQUdHVmcKPiBPazAvWDVaK3JyRWJBYXZXdlVkZ0NRcHNLZ1hM
(???) lVwaHNTMGw5Z3VlL0ZKcE9vL0Z2S1ZPWlBMQzUrdXFmM3BTCj4gK1gxVW1zWXlMN0JqNXRJNHdY
(???) EdxQXR1REhPLzBvR1VnQm81d0VycktjSDNYUHBMcVJKenIxWVhUOVpwc1N4Sgo+IHZIVU4xa2dw
(TN3) HoxRStYdGhHemFpZEF0R3cwNUc3RCtqYnk2ZlJhN3N6bUxVSkEwT0psRTNqZUtzWEZIMUhNUT0K
(???) iA9SjRWZAo+IC0tLS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQo+Cj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f
(???) 19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPiBHb3BoZXItUHJvamVjdCBtYWlsaW5n
(IMG) Gxpc3QKPiBHb3BoZXItUHJvamVjdEBsaXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZwo+IGh0dHA6Ly9s
(???) XN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZy9jZ2ktYmluL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZ29waGVyLXBy
(???) 2plY3QKCgoKLS0gCsKgIMKgIMKgIMKgL15cL15cCsKgIMKgIMKgIMKgXC0tLS18CsKgIMKgXy0t
(???) SctLS1+fn5+LV8KwqAgwqAgfn5+fH5+TH58fn5+fgrCoCDCoCDCoCDCoCgvXyDCoC9+fi0tCsKg
(IMG) MKgIMKgXH4gXCDCoC8gwqAvfgrCoCDCoF9fflwgwqB+IC8gwqAgfn4tLS0tLArCoCDCoFwgwqAg
(???) qB8IHwgwqAgwqAgwqAgLyDCoFwKwqAgwqAvfCDCoCB8LyDCoCDCoCDCoCB8IMKgIMKgfArCoCDC
(???) HwgfCB8IG8gwqBvIMKgIMKgIC9+IMKgIHwKwqBfLX5fIMKgfCDCoCDCoCDCoCDCoHx8IMKgXCDC
(???) C8KKC8vICkpIHwgbyDCoG8gwqAgwqBcXC0tLScKLy9fLSB8IMKgfCDCoCDCoCDCoCDCoCDCoFwK
(???) y8gwqAgfF9fX198XF9fX19fX1xfX1wKfiDCoCDCoCDCoHwgwqAgLyB8IMKgIMKgfArCoCDCoCDC
(???) CDCoHxfIC8gwqAgXCBffArCoCDCoCDCoC9+X19ffCDCoC9fX19fXAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f
(???) 19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KR29waGVyLVByb2plY3QgbWFpbGluZyBs
(???) XN0CkdvcGhlci1Qcm9qZWN0QGxpc3RzLmFsaW90aC5kZWJpYW4ub3JnCmh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5h
(???) GlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZy9jZ2ktYmluL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZ29waGVyLXByb2plY3Q=
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Mon Jun 18 20:08:23 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:08:23 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49])
(???) eceived: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so5080811wgb.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) eceived: by 10.216.208.80 with SMTP id p58mr8232044weo.139.1340042866476;
(???) eceived: from matjaz-mac.dev (188-230-178-67.dynamic.t-2.net.
(???) rom: MatjazM <matjaz85@gmail.com>
(???) ime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278)
(???) ate: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:07:42 +0200
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD0REpgTyiCASEW=auPzo-q3SnvD9n-2JX_75M407T8Kjg@mail.gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) eferences: <4fdc3ac1.ea51b40a.613c.ffffb96b@mx.google.com>
(???) essage-Id: <CBD08D80-2C16-41DB-8B40-B83A629D8467@gmail.com>
(???) -Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278)
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2414625874689988918=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Odg: Matjaz Gopher
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 34
(???) -===============2414625874689988918==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E7FAB193-F719-4094-B0E5-E99798196E24"
(???) -Apple-Mail=_E7FAB193-F719-4094-B0E5-E99798196E24
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain;
(???) n 17. jun. 2012, at 00:57, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) Yes, please, Matjaz.
(???) =20
(???) On 16 June 2012 05:02, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> =
(???) rote:
(???) >=20
(???) > I would like a copy too if it isn't too much trouble Matjaz.
(???) >=20
(???) > Thanks :)
(???) >=20
(???) ere it is...
(???) eware though: the source code is not as good or as beautiful as you =
(???) ight expect. I am not a programmer, it was and still is just a hobby of =
(???) ine. Some file names, function names, and comments are in Slovene and =
(SND) ome in English. I meant to tidy it at some point, but unfortunately I =
(DOC) o not have so much time. And just recently I started to work on it =
(???) gain (don't hold your breath).
(HTM) ttps://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient/gopher-source
(???) uckily I am better lawyer than programmer, so you don't have to worry =
(???) bout me making life with this kind of programming ;-)
(IMG) t supposed to be compiled with Sharp Develop =
(???) http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/), but MS Visual Studio/Visual =
(???) tudio Express should work as well.
(???) ou might find some strange files/folders in root of the zip file - I =
(???) ipped it up on a Mac.
(???) est regards,
(???) atja=BE=
(???) -Apple-Mail=_E7FAB193-F719-4094-B0E5-E99798196E24
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ontent-Type: text/html;
(???) html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
(???) webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; =
(???) ><br><div><div>On 17. jun. 2012, at 00:57, Nick Matavka wrote:</div><br =
(???) lass=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Yes, =
(PNG) lease, Matjaz.<br><br>On 16 June 2012 05:02, Bradley D. Thornton <<a =
(HTM) ref=3D"mailto:Bradley@northtech.us">Bradley@northtech.us</a>> =
(???) rote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
(???) ype=3D"cite">I would like a copy too if it isn't too much trouble =
(???) atjaz.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
(???) ype=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Thanks =
(???) )<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><font =
(???) lass=3D"Apple-style-span" =
(???) olor=3D"#6b0604"><br></font></blockquote></div></blockquote><br></div><di=
(???) >Here it is...</div><div><br></div><div>Beware though: the source code =
s not as good or as beautiful as you might expect. I am not a =
(PNG) rogrammer, it was and still is just a hobby of mine. Some file names, =
(???) unction names, and comments are in Slovene and some in English. I meant =
(???) o tidy it at some point, but unfortunately I do not have so much time. =
(???) nd just recently I started to work on it again (don't hold your =
(???) reath).</div><br><div><a =
(HTM) ref=3D"https://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient/gopher-source"=
(???) https://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient/gopher-source</a></di=
(???) ><div><br></div><div>Luckily I am better lawyer than programmer, so you =
(DOC) on't have to worry about me making life with this kind of programming =
(???) -)</div><div><br></div><div>It supposed to be compiled with Sharp =
(???) evelop (<a =
(HTM) ref=3D"http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/">http://www.icsharpcode.=
(???) et/OpenSource/SD/</a>), but MS Visual Studio/Visual Studio Express =
(SND) hould work as well.</div><div><br></div><div>You might find some =
(SND) trange files/folders in root of the zip file - I zipped it up on a =
(???) ac.</div><div><br></div><div>Best =
(???) egards,</div><div>Matja=BE</div></body></html>=
(???) -Apple-Mail=_E7FAB193-F719-4094-B0E5-E99798196E24--
(???) -===============2414625874689988918==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============2414625874689988918==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Mon Jun 18 22:44:01 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:44:01 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from one.holviala.com ([84.239.242.93] helo=mail.holviala.com)
(???) eceived: from mini.holviala.com (dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe27de00-94.dhcp.inet.fi
(???) essage-ID: <4FDF92EE.6070801@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:43:26 +0300
(???) rom: Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com>
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -7.6
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] Gophernicus fully supported on Haiku OS
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 35
(???) ere's part of the default gophermap:
(TN3) ook a little effort, mostly because there's really no documentation
(???) bout Haiku available so I had to read it's sources to figure out how it
(???) orked... Sigh.
(???) nyway, it's a fully supported platform now: all you have to do is "wget
(???) & make && make install" and it's up and running with proper configs.
(???) ources aren't there yet, I'll upload them tomorrow.
(???) ext up, getting Gopher up and running on OpenWRT. I've got an TL-WR703N
(???) outer on order, once it arrives it'll reflash it and start hacking.
(???) Kim
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 19 11:47:08 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:47:08 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from one.holviala.com ([84.239.242.93] helo=mail.holviala.com)
(???) eceived: from air.local (24-gw.konehuone.fi [84.239.242.65])
(???) essage-ID: <4FE04A83.5060802@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:46:43 +0300
(???) rom: Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com>
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -7.6
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] WWW to Gopher proxy
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 36
(IMG) t had to be done... Too long we've been watching the ongoing march of
(???) opher to WWW proxies and the damage they do to the world we're living in.
(???) no, I *don't* live in a basement, that's not the world I'm referring)
(???) really)
(???) I don't)
(???) honest)
(???) aaaanyway. Since it's sooo easy for those newfangled www hipsters to
(???) rowse our sacred gopher land, it's time for us old beards to browse
(???) their* Web six.dot.whatever using the only protocol that makes sense in
(???) his crazy modern world.
(???) mmm... kinda lost the plot here... what was I talking about?
(???) h yeah, gopher. Gopher. I think I was talking about Gopher? Right? Right?
(???) o, preseting: I can haz interwebz in gopherz!
(???) ust open up gopher://gophernicus.org and choose the menu entry for the
(???) ww to gopher proxy. Enter any URL (type it right - it's picky) and
(???) atch in awe.
(???) ere are a few examples:
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?www.floodgap.com
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?www.google.co.uk
(???) aaand. This.
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?http://gopherproxy.meulie.net/gopher.floodgap.com/
(IMG) t's Floodgaps gopher site converted to www and back to gopher. It still
(???) orks...
(IMG) *so* rule!
(???) Kim
(???) S. If it doesn't work for a particular URL, it's probably because it's
(DOC) enying HTTP 304 redirects... Fiddle a bit with the url and it'll start
(???) orking.
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 19 11:49:49 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:49:49 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from one.holviala.com ([84.239.242.93] helo=mail.holviala.com)
(???) eceived: from air.local (24-gw.konehuone.fi [84.239.242.65])
(???) essage-ID: <4FE04B28.2080705@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:49:28 +0300
(???) rom: Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com>
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) eferences: <4FDF92EE.6070801@holviala.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FDF92EE.6070801@holviala.com>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -7.6
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Gophernicus fully supported on Haiku OS
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 37
(???) n 18.6.2012 23:43, Kim Holviala wrote:
(???) server version.: Gophernicus/1.4-beta
(???) server platform: Haiku/R1 BePC
(TN3) he current 1.4-beta source package now supports Haiku.
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/1/software/gophernicus/server/
(???) ust wget the sources and run make && make install. It'll restart
(???) et_server for you and start up the server right away.
(???) Kim
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 19 15:35:14 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:35:14 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.166.122.164])
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <201206191334.q5JDYc2c13041774@floodgap.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FE04A83.5060802@holviala.com> from Kim Holviala at "Jun 19,
(TN3) o: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) ate: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
(???) -Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)]
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] WWW to Gopher proxy
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 38
(???) gopher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?www.floodgap.com
(???) ynx rides again, eh?
(IMG) nterestingly, the gopher:// links are not converted to menu entries ...
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - FORTUNE: Travel is important today. The IRS will arrive tomorrow. ----------
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Tue Jun 19 15:36:15 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:36:15 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from one.holviala.com ([84.239.242.93] helo=mail.holviala.com)
(???) eceived: from mini.holviala.com (dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe27de00-94.dhcp.inet.fi
(???) essage-ID: <4FE0803C.8070807@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:35:56 +0300
(???) rom: Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com>
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) eferences: <201206191334.q5JDYc2c13041774@floodgap.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <201206191334.q5JDYc2c13041774@floodgap.com>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -7.6
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] WWW to Gopher proxy
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 39
(???) n 19.6.2012 16:34, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) > gopher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?www.floodgap.com
(???)
(???) Lynx rides again, eh?
(???) eah. The who script is no more than 15 lines...
(???) Interestingly, the gopher:// links are not converted to menu entries ...
(IMG) noticed... didn't have to to do regexps for those, yet.
(???) Kim
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Wed Jun 20 04:35:21 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 04:35:21 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from gateway14.websitewelcome.com ([67.18.22.82])
(???) eceived: by gateway14.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007)
(???) eceived: from vanquish.websitewelcome.com (vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) eceived: from [173.55.252.184] (port=56960 helo=[192.168.1.10])
(???) essage-ID: <4FE123EB.10104@NorthTech.US>
(???) ate: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:14:19 -0700
(???) rom: "Bradley D. Thornton" <Bradley@NorthTech.US>
(???) rganization: NorthTech Computer
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) eferences: <4FE04A83.5060802@holviala.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <4FE04A83.5060802@holviala.com>
(???) -Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2
(???) -TagToolbar-Keys: D20120619181419966
(???) -AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse,
(???) -AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vanquish.websitewelcome.com
(???) -AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
(???) -AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - NorthTech.US
(???) -BWhitelist: no
(???) -Source:
(???) -Source-Args:
(???) -Source-Dir:
(???) -Source-Sender: ([192.168.1.10]) [173.55.252.184]:56960
(???) -Source-Auth: bradley@northtech.us
(???) -Email-Count: 1
(???) -Source-Cap: dGFsbHNoaXA7dGFsbHNoaXA7dmFucXVpc2gud2Vic2l0ZXdlbGNvbWUuY29t
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] WWW to Gopher proxy
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 40
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
(???) ash: RIPEMD160
(???) n 06/19/2012 02:46 AM, Kim Holviala wrote:
(???) It had to be done... Too long we've been watching the ongoing march of
(???) Gopher to WWW proxies and the damage they do to the world we're living in.
(???)
(???)
(???) Aaaaanyway. Since it's sooo easy for those newfangled www hipsters to
(???) browse our sacred gopher land, it's time for us old beards to browse
(???) *their* Web six.dot.whatever using the only protocol that makes sense in
(???) this crazy modern world.
(???)
(???)
(???) So, preseting: I can haz interwebz in gopherz!
(???) oot! You can haz Cheezburgerz Kim!
(???)
(???) Just open up gopher://gophernicus.org and choose the menu entry for the
(???) www to gopher proxy. Enter any URL (type it right - it's picky) and
(???) watch in awe.
(???)
(???) Here are a few examples:
(???)
(???) gopher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?www.floodgap.com
(???) gopher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?www.google.co.uk
(???)
(???) Aaaand. This.
(???)
(???) gopher://gophernicus.org/1/www/?http://gopherproxy.meulie.net/gopher.floodgap.com/
(???) h, man that is truly sick!
(IMG) can hear that high pitched feeback in my ear rising to a painful
(DOC) ecibel as I write this LOL!
(???)
(???) I *so* rule!
(???)
(???) areful you don't let your head swell to proportions that don't let you
(PNG) ass through the average doorway ;)
(TN3) his really is pretty kewl Kim :)
(???) --
(???) radley D. Thornton
(???) anager Network Services
(???) orthTech Computer
(TN3) EL: +1.310.388.9469 (US)
(TN3) EL: +44.203.318.2755 (UK)
(TN3) EL: +41.43.508.05.10 (CH)
(HTM) ttp://NorthTech.US
(???) ----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ersion: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
(???) omment: Find this cert at x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net
QEcBAEBAwAGBQJP4SPrAAoJEE1wgkIhr9j3/7kIAJqrP00iiqJ9LB3Ri5gaNXvM
(TN3) C/7J1KujKiLPG8ARHhVrvD/zAO/ytOJ7hnDHxre4bVG0+NfluUDLhRBpdNRh3WV
(ERR) vP18JSuEYQ10xTs7ySw5ma0XENxxwVJSIIvN6hbcYFC9HdqrPadD7bcXZ0Zhz1g
(???) rl1wQ4ciHIbhio8yqzpxSew5Yd6y/XrXerbPi2ltqQQTOUqkdQo2IWKiRIO1gpo
(???) WFHJcQRaYRNDcTPu8zIC3uIF7YOZVL80rxmSO7RAJlgPtgzyvk/yYrXWROPN3tY
(DUP) f+6929Ei2PNmvLcwESrlqNYbPztQE4d864lmPII7gCeIMNWIFT0vnyY+an0A4Q=
(???) t88i
(???) ----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 07:15:20 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:15:20 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so1563650lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.148.199 with SMTP id tu7mr25301058lab.43.1340255648418;
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:14:08 -0700 (PDT)
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:14:08 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 41
(???) ello, world!
(???) aving spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft RFC
s just about ready to be published. Without further ado, allow me to
(PNG) resent the new Gopher specification! Unless anyone says otherwise,
(???) his is what will get published.
(HTM) ttp://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 08:29:43 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:29:43 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com ([209.85.212.169])
(???) eceived: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so3941834wib.0
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.216.228.224 with SMTP id f74mr14023819weq.217.1340260158591;
(???) eceived: by 10.216.25.148 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:29:18 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CBD08D80-2C16-41DB-8B40-B83A629D8467@gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <4fdc3ac1.ea51b40a.613c.ffffb96b@mx.google.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:29:18 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD0ujEuY-uE=1JA1Nqis_J0-+q0Hn7MZE+xcpk=ZbhpLXg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Odg: Matjaz Gopher
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 42
(???) n 18 June 2012 14:07, MatjazM <matjaz85@gmail.com> wrote:
(???)
(???) On 17. jun. 2012, at 00:57, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???)
(???) Yes, please, Matjaz.
(???)
(???) On 16 June 2012 05:02, Bradley D. Thornton <Bradley@northtech.us> wrote:
(???)
(???)
(???) I would like a copy too if it isn't too much trouble Matjaz.
(???)
(???)
(???) Thanks :)
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) Here it is...
(???)
(???) Beware though: the source code is not as good or as beautiful as you might
(???) expect. I am not a programmer, it was and still is just a hobby of mine.
(???) Some file names, function names, and comments are in Slovene and some in
(???) English. I meant to tidy it at some point, but unfortunately I do not have
(???) so much time. And just recently I started to work on it again (don't hold
(???) your breath).
(???)
(???) https://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient/gopher-source
(???)
(???) Luckily I am better lawyer than programmer, so you don't have to worry ab=
(???) ut
(???) me making life with this kind of programming ;-)
(???)
(???) It supposed to be compiled with Sharp Develop
(???) (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/), but MS Visual Studio/Visual
(???) Studio Express should work as well.
(???)
(???) You might find some strange files/folders in root of the zip file - I zip=
(PNG) ed
(???) it up on a Mac.
(???)
(???) Best regards,
(???) Matja=BE
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) unny you should say you're a lawyer... the General Public Licence
(SND) tates that source must be publicly available for any application
(???) icenced under it? Don't worry, I won't sue. ;-)
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 09:26:13 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:26:13 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47])
(???) eceived: by pbbrq2 with SMTP id rq2so1667130pbb.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) eceived: by 10.68.204.129 with SMTP id ky1mr87628973pbc.32.1340263548098;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.68.132.132 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD0ujEuY-uE=1JA1Nqis_J0-+q0Hn7MZE+xcpk=ZbhpLXg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <4fdc3ac1.ea51b40a.613c.ffffb96b@mx.google.com>
(???) rom: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Matja=BE_Me=B9njak?= <matjaz85@gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:25:27 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CAE136rrusdOwxbXwdRgQvfJ2K_gSYgu6xkLz-M7g-bacCNawiw@mail.gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8881364160176447910=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Odg: Matjaz Gopher
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 43
(???) -===============8881364160176447910==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e4cdeb099f604c2f66c87
(???) -047d7b2e4cdeb099f604c2f66c87
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???)
(???)
(???) Funny you should say you're a lawyer... the General Public Licence
(???) states that source must be publicly available for any application
(???) licenced under it? Don't worry, I won't sue. ;-)
(???)
(???)
(IMG) t is not GPL ... it is BSD licence and it is at the bottom of the page (
(HTM) ttps://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient). The code does not
nclude it - as I said it is what it is - I did not clean it up (yet). When
(IMG) do, the licence will be in there as well :)
(???) atja=C5=BE
(???) -047d7b2e4cdeb099f604c2f66c87
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) div class=3D"gmail_quote">
(???) blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
(???) DING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
(???) div class=3D"im">=C2=A0</div>Funny you should say you're a lawyer... t=
(HTM) e General Public Licence<br>states that source must be publicly available =
(???) or any application<br>licenced under it? =C2=A0Don't worry, I won'=
(???) sue. =C2=A0;-)<br>
(???) div class=3D"HOEnZb">
(???) div class=3D"h5">=C2=A0</div></div></blockquote>
(???) div>It is not GPL ... it is BSD licence and it is at the bottom of the pag=
(???) (<a href=3D"https://sites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient">https://=
(SND) ites.google.com/site/matjaz85/gopherclient</a>). The code does not include=
(???) it - as I said it is what it is - I did not clean it up (yet). When I do, =
(???) he licence will be in there as well :)</div>
(???) div>=C2=A0</div>
(???) div>Matja=C5=BE</div></div>
(???) -047d7b2e4cdeb099f604c2f66c87--
(???) -===============8881364160176447910==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============8881364160176447910==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 10:28:49 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:28:49 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from r-36.net ([188.40.33.61])
(???) eceived: by r-36.net (Postfix, from userid 5001)
(???) eceived: from localhost (f053206141.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.53.206.141])
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=r-36.net; s=mail;
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ser-Agent: rohrpost
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) rom: Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) essage-Id: <20120621082824.B06DD18C4AC1@r-36.net>
(???) -policyd-weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: base64
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 44
(???) 3JlZXRpbmdzLgoKT24gVGh1LCAyMSBKdW4gMjAxMiAxMDoxNjowNSArMDIwMCBOaWNrIE1hdGF2
(???) 2EgPG4udGhlb2RvcmUubWF0YXZrYS5maWxlc0BnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdyb3RlOgo+IEhlbGxvLCB3
(???) 3JsZCEKPiAKPiBIYXZpbmcgc3BlbnQgc2V2ZXJhbCB3ZWVrcyB3cml0aW5nIHRoaXMsIEkgYmVs
(???) WV2ZSB0aGF0IHRoZSBkcmFmdCBSRkMKPiBpcyBqdXN0IGFib3V0IHJlYWR5IHRvIGJlIHB1Ymxp
(???) 2hlZC4gIFdpdGhvdXQgZnVydGhlciBhZG8sIGFsbG93IG1lIHRvCj4gcHJlc2VudCB0aGUgbmV3
(IMG) EdvcGhlciBzcGVjaWZpY2F0aW9uISAgVW5sZXNzIGFueW9uZSBzYXlzIG90aGVyd2lzZSwKPiB0
(???) GlzIGlzIHdoYXQgd2lsbCBnZXQgcHVibGlzaGVkLgo+IAo+IGh0dHA6Ly9waXJhdGVwYWQubmV0
(???) 2dvcGhlcgo+IFtzbmlwIC4uLiB0b28gbG9uZyBzaWduYXR1cmVdCgpJIGFtIGFnYWluc3QgdGhp
(???) yBkcmFmdDoKMS4pIFRoZSBjYXBzIGZpbGUgc2hvdWxkbid0IGJlIGluIHRoZSAqcHJvdG9jb2wq
(IMG) HNwZWNpZmljYXRpb24uCjIuKSByb2JvdHMudHh0IHNob3VsZG4ndCBiZSBpbiB0aGUgKnByb3Rv
(???) 29sKiBzcGVjaWZpY2F0aW9uLgozLikgYWJvdXQudHh0IHNob3VsZG4ndCBiZSBpbiB0aGUgKnBy
(???) 3RvY29sKiBzcGVjaWZpY2F0aW9uLgo0LikgVGhlIGRlZmluaXRpb24gb2YgdGhlIGZ1bGwgc3Rv
(???) CB0ZXJtaW5hdGlvbiBvZiB0ZXh0IGZpbGVzIGluCiAgICB0aGlzIGRyYWZ0IGRvZXMgbm90IHNv
(???) HZlIGFueXRoaW5nLiBJdCBjYW4gYmUgc2VudCBhcyBiZWZvcmUKICAgIGFuZCBjbGllbnRzIGhh
(DOC) mUgdG8gdGFrZSBzb21lIG1hZ2ljIHRvIGtub3cgaWYgaXQgaXMgcGFydCBvZgogICAgdGhlIGNv
(???) nRlbnQgb3IgdGhlIHRyYW5zZmVyIHByb3RvY29sLgo1LikgV2h5IGlzIHRoZXJlIGEgbmVlZCB0
(???) yBpbmNsdWRlIHRoZSBIVFRQIGVycm9yIGNvZGVzPyBJdGVtIHR5cGUKICAgIDMgYW5kIHByZWRl
(???) mluZWQgc3RyaW5ncyBzaG91bGQgc2ltcGxpZnkgaXQuCjYuKSBXaG8gdXNlcyB0aGlzIFRJVExF
(IMG) HN0dWZmPwo3LikgQWNjb3JkaW5nIHRvIHRoYXQgZHJhZnQgcHJvcG9zYWwgaXQgaXMgcG9zc2li
(???) GUgdG8gaGF2ZSB0aGUKICAgIFVSTDogcmVkaXJlY3Rpb25zIGluIGV2ZXJ5IHNlbGVjdG9yLiBU
(???) GlzIHdvdWxkIGNyZWF0ZSBtdWNoCiAgICBjb25mdXNpb24gd2l0aG91dCB0aGUgwrtowqsgaXRl
(???) SB0eXBlIGluIGNvbmp1bmN0aW9uLgo4LikgU2VydmVycyBzdGlsbCBoYXZlIHRvIHByb3ZpZGUg
(DOC) GhlIHJlZGlyZWN0aW9uIGhhY2suIFRoaXMgZHJhZnQKICAgIGRvZXMgbm90IHNvbHZlIGFueXRo
(???) W5nIHRoZXJlLgo5LikgV2h5IGlzIHRoZXJlIGEgZGVmaW5pdGlvbiBvZiBhIHJlZGlyZWN0IHBh
(???) 2U/IFdoeSBhcmUgcGVvcGxlCiAgICByZXN0cmljdGVkIGluIGl0PyBDb3VsZG4ndCBpdCBqdXN0
(IMG) GJlIGF2b2lkZWQ/CgpNeSAgY29uY2x1c2lvbiBpcywgdGhhdCB3aXRoIHRoYXQgZHJhZnQgaW4g
(???) WN0aW9uIGdvcGhlciBpcyBub3RoaW5nIGVsc2UKYnV0IGEgc2ltcGxpZmllZCBIVFRQIHdpdGgg
(???) GFja3MgYW5kIG1vcmUgdW5zcGVjaWZpZWQgYmVoYXZpb3VyLgoKClNpbmNlcmVseSwKCkNocmlz
(DOC) G9waCBMb2htYW5uCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f
(???) 19fX18KR29waGVyLVByb2plY3QgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0CkdvcGhlci1Qcm9qZWN0QGxpc3RzLmFs
(???) W90aC5kZWJpYW4ub3JnCmh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5hbGlvdGguZGViaWFuLm9yZy9jZ2ktYmluL21h
(???) WxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZ29waGVyLXByb2plY3Q=
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 11:38:41 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:38:41 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from one.holviala.com ([84.239.242.93] helo=mail.holviala.com)
(???) eceived: from air.local (unknown
(???) essage-ID: <4FE2EB83.1020305@holviala.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:38:11 +0300
(???) rom: Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com>
(???) ser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -7.6
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 45
(???) n 21.6.2012 8:14, Nick Matavka wrote:
(???) Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft RFC
(???) is just about ready to be published. Without further ado, allow me to
(???) present the new Gopher specification! Unless anyone says otherwise,
(???) this is what will get published.
(???)
(???) http://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) ust a quick comment; the filetype for Mime was a capital "M", not "m".
(???) nd it's actually from the sources of UMN gopher - I finally remembered
(???) here I got it from. That's the same list where I got the "P" for PDF from.
(???) ere's the full list from object/GSgopherobj.h:
(???) define A_FILE '0' /* Types of objects */
(???) define A_DIRECTORY '1'
(???) define A_CSO '2'
(???) define A_ERROR '3'
(???) define A_MACHEX '4'
(???) define A_PCBIN '5'
(???) define A_INDEX '7'
(???) define A_TELNET '8'
(???) define A_UNIXBIN '9'
(???) define A_SOUND 's'
(???) define A_EVENT 'e'
(???) define A_CALENDAR 'c'
(???) define A_GIF 'g'
(???) define A_HTML 'h'
(???) define A_TN3270 'T'
(???) define A_MIME 'M'
(???) define A_IMAGE 'I'
(???) define A_INFO 'i'
(???) define A_MOVIE ';'
(???) define A_PDF 'P'
(???) define A_WORLD 'v'
(???) define A_APP '!'
(???) define A_EOI '.'
(???) Kim
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 15:06:36 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:06:36 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-ey0-f175.google.com ([209.85.215.175])
(???) eceived: by eaal1 with SMTP id l1so185216eaa.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.152.104.171 with SMTP id gf11mr26647766lab.5.1340283961924;
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:06:01 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <20120621082824.B06DD18C4AC1@r-36.net>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:06:01 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD29Z4=hXyj2H3AKiJFcCAcCEAjsBCg=ytdo_mg_Dk0aZA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 46
(???) n 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net> wrote:
(???) Greetings.
(???)
(???) On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files=
(???) gmail.com> wrote:
(???) > Hello, world!
(???) >
(???) > Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft RFC
(???) > is just about ready to be published. =A0Without further ado, allow me to
(???) > present the new Gopher specification! =A0Unless anyone says otherwise,
(???) > this is what will get published.
(???) >
(???) > http://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) > [snip ... too long signature]
(???)
(???) I am against this draft:
(???) 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files in
(???) =A0 =A0this draft does not solve anything. It can be sent as before
(???) =A0 =A0and clients have to take some magic to know if it is part of
(???) =A0 =A0the content or the transfer protocol.
(???) 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item type
(???) =A0 =A03 and predefined strings should simplify it.
(???) 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?
(???) 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have the
(???) =A0 =A0URL: redirections in every selector. This would create much
(???) =A0 =A0confusion without the =BBh=AB item type in conjunction.
(???) 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This draft
(???) =A0 =A0does not solve anything there.
(???) 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are people
(???) =A0 =A0restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoided?
(???)
(???) My =A0conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher is nothing else
(???) but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behaviour.
(???)
(???)
(???) Sincerely,
(???)
(???) Christoph Lohmann
(???)
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(IMG) f caps and robots shouldn't be in the protocol specification, where
(DOC) oes one standardise such things? Several people actually
(???) oogle-Doced that these things must be there.
(???) hat I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently
(???) sed, and there's no question that caps and robots are currently used.
(IMG) f I were to implement your changes, there would be nothing left but
(???) ffectively the 1991 version of gopher.
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 15:29:41 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:29:41 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-gg0-f175.google.com ([209.85.161.175])
(???) eceived: by ggnp4 with SMTP id p4so394011ggn.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.87.227 with SMTP id bb3mr7264427igb.57.1340285336812; Thu,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.12.81 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:28:56 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD29Z4=hXyj2H3AKiJFcCAcCEAjsBCg=ytdo_mg_Dk0aZA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 15:28:56 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPMDbJEQSVuuCjQfcuXWZXgPwmQ-Vm5m53chJo7+SURDNg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1586692376743464808=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 47
(???) -===============1586692376743464808==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3ba4d365fab004c2fb7f76
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d365fab004c2fb7f76
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(IMG) agree, every modern server I saw have "about" node and many have
(???) robots.txt" and "caps.txt".
(IMG) think you should consider writing your document in "RFC" format.
(???) any RFC only formalize use of techs like robots.txt.
(PHO) 012/6/21 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) On 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net> wrote:
(???) > Greetings.
(???) >
(???) > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka <
(???) n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) >> Hello, world!
(???) >>
(???) >> Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft RFC
(???) >> is just about ready to be published. Without further ado, allow me to
(???) >> present the new Gopher specification! Unless anyone says otherwise,
(???) >> this is what will get published.
(???) >>
(???) >> http://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) >> [snip ... too long signature]
(???) >
(???) > I am against this draft:
(???) > 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) > 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) > 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) > 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files in
(???) > this draft does not solve anything. It can be sent as before
(???) > and clients have to take some magic to know if it is part of
(???) > the content or the transfer protocol.
(???) > 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item type
(???) > 3 and predefined strings should simplify it.
(???) > 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?
(???) > 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have the
(???) > URL: redirections in every selector. This would create much
(???) > confusion without the =C2=BBh=C2=AB item type in conjunction.
(???) > 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This draft
(???) > does not solve anything there.
(???) > 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are people
(???) > restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoided?
(???) >
(???) > My conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher is nothing els=
(???)
(???) > but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behaviour.
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > Sincerely,
(???) >
(???) > Christoph Lohmann
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
(???) > Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) > Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) If caps and robots shouldn't be in the protocol specification, where
(???) does one standardise such things? Several people actually
(???) Google-Doced that these things must be there.
(???)
(???) What I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently
(???) used, and there's no question that caps and robots are currently used.
(???)
(???) If I were to implement your changes, there would be nothing left but
(???) effectively the 1991 version of gopher.
(???)
(???) --
(???) /^\/^\
(???) \----|
(???) _---'---~~~~-_
(???) ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) (/_ /~~--
(???) \~ \ / /~
(???) __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) \ | | / \
(???) /| |/ | |
(???) | | | o o /~ |
(???) _-~_ | || \ /
(???) (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) //_- | | \
(???) // |____|\______\__\
(???) ~ | / | |
(???) |_ / \ _|
(???) /~___| /____\
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) -=20
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d365fab004c2fb7f76
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(IMG) agree, every modern server I saw have "about" node and many hav=
(???) "robots.txt" and "caps.txt".<br><br>I think you shoul=
(DOC) consider writing your document in "RFC" format.<br><br>Many RFC=
(???) only formalize use of techs like robots.txt.<br>
(???) br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/6/21 Nick Matavka <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
(???) <a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">n.=
(???) heodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
(???) :1ex">
(???) div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lo=
(HTM) mann <<a href=3D"mailto:20h@r-36.net">20h@r-36.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) gt; Greetings.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka <<a href=3D"mailto:=
(???) .theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>&=
(GIF) t; wrote:<br>
(???) gt;> Hello, world!<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft =
(???) FC<br>
(???) gt;> is just about ready to be published. =C2=A0Without further ado, al=
(???) ow me to<br>
(???) gt;> present the new Gopher specification! =C2=A0Unless anyone says oth=
(???) rwise,<br>
(???) gt;> this is what will get published.<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> <a href=3D"http://piratepad.net/gopher" target=3D"_blank">http://p=
ratepad.net/gopher</a><br>
(???) gt;> [snip ... too long signature]<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; I am against this draft:<br>
(???) gt; 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.<br=
(???)
(???) gt; 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.<br>
(???) gt; 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.<br>
(???) gt; 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files in<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0this draft does not solve anything. It can be sent as bef=
(???) re<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0and clients have to take some magic to know if it is part=
(???) of<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0the content or the transfer protocol.<br>
(???) gt; 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item type<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A03 and predefined strings should simplify it.<br>
(???) gt; 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?<br>
(???) gt; 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have the<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0URL: redirections in every selector. This would create mu=
(???) h<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0confusion without the =C2=BBh=C2=AB item type in conjunct=
on.<br>
(???) gt; 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This draft<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0does not solve anything there.<br>
(???) gt; 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are people<br>
(???) gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoided?<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; My =C2=A0conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher is nothi=
(???) g else<br>
(???) gt; but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behaviour.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; Sincerely,<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; Christoph Lohmann<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; _______________________________________________<br>
(???) gt; Gopher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Proje=
(???) t@lists.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) gt; <a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gop=
(HTM) er-project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailm=
(???) n/listinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) /div></div>If caps and robots shouldn't be in the protocol specificati=
(???) n, where<br>
(DOC) oes one standardise such things? =C2=A0Several people actually<br>
(???) oogle-Doced that these things must be there.<br>
(???) br>
(???) hat I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently<br>
(???) sed, and there's no question that caps and robots are currently used.<=
(???) r>
(???) br>
(IMG) f I were to implement your changes, there would be nothing left but<br>
(???) ffectively the 1991 version of gopher.<br>
(???) div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
(???) -<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<br>
(???) // )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) /_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) / =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) br>
(???) /div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">_____________________________=
(???) _________________<br>
(???) opher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@li=
(SND) ts.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-p=
(???) oject" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li=
(SND) tinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -e89a8f3ba4d365fab004c2fb7f76--
(???) -===============1586692376743464808==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============1586692376743464808==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 16:11:08 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:11:08 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175])
(???) eceived: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so2053087lbo.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.112.45.168 with SMTP id o8mr11621393lbm.88.1340287835043; Thu,
(???) eceived: by 10.112.77.10 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CA+JTEPMDbJEQSVuuCjQfcuXWZXgPwmQ-Vm5m53chJo7+SURDNg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:10:35 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CANroBD0tE=fpGZk-4Snx5jqfNZDch8iDp5Zb+rfTWQscJ1LxwA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 48
(???) n 21 June 2012 09:28, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) I agree, every modern server I saw have "about" node and many have
(???) "robots.txt" and "caps.txt".
(???)
(???) I think you should consider writing your document in "RFC" format.
(???)
(???) Many RFC only formalize use of techs like robots.txt.
(???)
(???)
(???) 2012/6/21 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >
(???) > On 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net> wrote:
(???) > > Greetings.
(???) > >
(???) > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka
(???) > > <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) > >> Hello, world!
(???) > >>
(???) > >> Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft RFC
(???) > >> is just about ready to be published. =A0Without further ado, allow me=
(???) to
(???) > >> present the new Gopher specification! =A0Unless anyone says otherwise,
(???) > >> this is what will get published.
(???) > >>
(???) > >> http://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) > >> [snip ... too long signature]
(???) > >
(???) > > I am against this draft:
(???) > > 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) > > 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) > > 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) > > 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files in
(???) > > =A0 =A0this draft does not solve anything. It can be sent as before
(???) > > =A0 =A0and clients have to take some magic to know if it is part of
(???) > > =A0 =A0the content or the transfer protocol.
(???) > > 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item type
(???) > > =A0 =A03 and predefined strings should simplify it.
(???) > > 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?
(???) > > 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have the
(???) > > =A0 =A0URL: redirections in every selector. This would create much
(???) > > =A0 =A0confusion without the =BBh=AB item type in conjunction.
(???) > > 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This draft
(???) > > =A0 =A0does not solve anything there.
(???) > > 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are people
(???) > > =A0 =A0restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoided?
(???) > >
(???) > > My =A0conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher is nothing =
(???) lse
(???) > > but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behaviour.
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > > Sincerely,
(???) > >
(???) > > Christoph Lohmann
(???) > >
(???) > >
(???) > If caps and robots shouldn't be in the protocol specification, where
(???) > does one standardise such things? =A0Several people actually
(???) > Google-Doced that these things must be there.
(???) >
(???) > What I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently
(???) > used, and there's no question that caps and robots are currently used.
(???) >
(???) > If I were to implement your changes, there would be nothing left but
(???) > effectively the 1991 version of gopher.
(???) >
(???) r Carol, just whom do you agree with? Me or Mr Lohmann?
(???) - =
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) // )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) /_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) / =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 17:56:15 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:56:15 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.216.175])
(???) eceived: by qcso7 with SMTP id o7so391733qcs.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.224.184.82 with SMTP id cj18mr48937787qab.81.1340294136622;
(???) eceived: by 10.229.51.140 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT)
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:55:36 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CAJvjBNbvtwLydJQsFu86o=sFKG8Z-z=c8pD4N53WKXy8A+uYvg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Wolfgang Faust <wolfgangmcq@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: [gopher] View page source with OverbyteFF
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 49
(IMG) noticed today that viewing the source of a gopher page doesn't give
(???) he original menu, it gives the rendered HTML source. I would suggest
(???) or a future version of Overbyte the ability to view the raw
(???) ransmission.
(???) -
(TXT) 1010111 01101111 01101100 01100110
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 17:59:05 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:59:05 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-yw0-f42.google.com ([209.85.213.42])
(???) eceived: by yhfq11 with SMTP id q11so973618yhf.29
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.153.170 with SMTP id vh10mr8062419igb.24.1340294298849;
(???) eceived: by 10.64.12.81 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD0tE=fpGZk-4Snx5jqfNZDch8iDp5Zb+rfTWQscJ1LxwA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:58:18 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPO7MY4zXL6XuivpL1Q53e84NPSR5wFHgypyUrE1Phxjyg@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5299041243125707907=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 50
(???) -===============5299041243125707907==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3bac0593d33004c2fd9544
(???) -e89a8f3bac0593d33004c2fd9544
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ou definitively.
(PHO) 012/6/21 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) On 21 June 2012 09:28, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) > I agree, every modern server I saw have "about" node and many have
(???) > "robots.txt" and "caps.txt".
(???) >
(???) > I think you should consider writing your document in "RFC" format.
(???) >
(???) > Many RFC only formalize use of techs like robots.txt.
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > 2012/6/21 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >>
(???) >> On 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net> wrote:
(???) >> > Greetings.
(???) >> >
(???) >> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka
(???) >> > <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) >> >> Hello, world!
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft R=
(???) C
(???) >> >> is just about ready to be published. Without further ado, allow me
(???) to
(???) >> >> present the new Gopher specification! Unless anyone says otherwise=
(???)
(???) >> >> this is what will get published.
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> http://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) >> >> [snip ... too long signature]
(???) >> >
(???) >> > I am against this draft:
(???) >> > 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >> > 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >> > 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >> > 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files in
(???) >> > this draft does not solve anything. It can be sent as before
(???) >> > and clients have to take some magic to know if it is part of
(???) >> > the content or the transfer protocol.
(???) >> > 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item type
(???) >> > 3 and predefined strings should simplify it.
(???) >> > 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?
(???) >> > 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have the
(???) >> > URL: redirections in every selector. This would create much
(???) >> > confusion without the =C2=BBh=C2=AB item type in conjunction.
(???) >> > 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This draft
(???) >> > does not solve anything there.
(???) >> > 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are people
(???) >> > restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoided?
(???) >> >
(???) >> > My conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher is nothing
(???) else
(???) >> > but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behaviour.
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> > Sincerely,
(???) >> >
(???) >> > Christoph Lohmann
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> If caps and robots shouldn't be in the protocol specification, where
(???) >> does one standardise such things? Several people actually
(???) >> Google-Doced that these things must be there.
(???) >>
(???) >> What I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently
(???) >> used, and there's no question that caps and robots are currently used.
(???) >>
(???) >> If I were to implement your changes, there would be nothing left but
(???) >> effectively the 1991 version of gopher.
(???) >>
(???)
(???) Mr Carol, just whom do you agree with? Me or Mr Lohmann?
(???)
(???) --
(???) /^\/^\
(???) \----|
(???) _---'---~~~~-_
(???) ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) (/_ /~~--
(???) \~ \ / /~
(???) __~\ ~ / ~~----,
(???) \ | | / \
(???) /| |/ | |
(???) | | | o o /~ |
(???) _-~_ | || \ /
(???) (// )) | o o \\---'
(???) //_- | | \
(???) // |____|\______\__\
(???) ~ | / | |
(???) |_ / \ _|
(???) /~___| /____\
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) -=20
(???) amien CAROL
(GIF) opher://dams.zapto.org/1/
(???) -e89a8f3bac0593d33004c2fd9544
(???) ontent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ou definitively.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/6/21 Nick Matavka =
(???) span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com"=
(???) target=3D"_blank">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>></span><br><bl=
(???) ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
(???) cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(???) div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On 21 June 2012 09:28, Damien Carol=
(???) <<a href=3D"mailto:damien.carol@gmail.com">damien.carol@gmail.com</a>&g=
(???) ; wrote:<br>
(???) gt; I agree, every modern server I saw have "about" node and man=
(???) have<br>
(???) gt; "robots.txt" and "caps.txt".<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; I think you should consider writing your document in "RFC" f=
(???) rmat.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; Many RFC only formalize use of techs like robots.txt.<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt;<br>
(???) gt; 2012/6/21 Nick Matavka <<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@=
(GIF) mail.com">n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>><br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> On 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lohmann <<a href=3D"mailto:20h=
(???) r-36.net">20h@r-36.net</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) gt;> > Greetings.<br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) gt;> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka<br>
(???) gt;> > <<a href=3D"mailto:n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com">n.t=
(HTM) eodore.matavka.files@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
(???) gt;> >> Hello, world!<br>
(???) gt;> >><br>
(???) gt;> >> Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that t=
(HTM) e draft RFC<br>
(???) gt;> >> is just about ready to be published. =C2=A0Without furthe=
(???) ado, allow me to<br>
(???) gt;> >> present the new Gopher specification! =C2=A0Unless anyone=
(???) says otherwise,<br>
(???) gt;> >> this is what will get published.<br>
(???) gt;> >><br>
(???) gt;> >> <a href=3D"http://piratepad.net/gopher" target=3D"_blank"=
(???) http://piratepad.net/gopher</a><br>
(???) gt;> >> [snip ... too long signature]<br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) gt;> > I am against this draft:<br>
(???) gt;> > 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specific=
(???) tion.<br>
(???) gt;> > 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specificati=
(???) n.<br>
(???) gt;> > 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specificatio=
(???) .<br>
(???) gt;> > 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files=
(???) in<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0this draft does not solve anything. It can be se=
(???) t as before<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0and clients have to take some magic to know if i=
(???) is part of<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0the content or the transfer protocol.<br>
(???) gt;> > 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item=
(???) type<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A03 and predefined strings should simplify it.<br>
(???) gt;> > 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?<br>
(???) gt;> > 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have t=
(HTM) e<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0URL: redirections in every selector. This would =
(???) reate much<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0confusion without the =C2=BBh=C2=AB item type in=
(???) conjunction.<br>
(???) gt;> > 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This =
(DOC) raft<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0does not solve anything there.<br>
(???) gt;> > 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are peo=
(PNG) le<br>
(???) gt;> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoide=
(DOC) ?<br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) gt;> > My =C2=A0conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher=
(???) is nothing else<br>
(???) gt;> > but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behavio=
(???) r.<br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) gt;> > Sincerely,<br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) gt;> > Christoph Lohmann<br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) gt;> ><br>
(???) /div></div><div class=3D"im">>> If caps and robots shouldn't be =
n the protocol specification, where<br>
(???) gt;> does one standardise such things? =C2=A0Several people actually<br=
(???)
(???) gt;> Google-Doced that these things must be there.<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> What I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently<=
(???) r>
(???) gt;> used, and there's no question that caps and robots are current=
(???) y used.<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) gt;> If I were to implement your changes, there would be nothing left b=
(???) t<br>
(???) gt;> effectively the 1991 version of gopher.<br>
(???) gt;><br>
(???) br>
(???) /div>Mr Carol, just whom do you agree with? =C2=A0Me or Mr Lohmann?<br>
(???) div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
(???) -<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/^\/^\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\----|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0_---'---~~~~-_<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(/_ =C2=A0/~~--<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\~ \ =C2=A0/ =C2=A0/~<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0__~\ =C2=A0~ / =C2=A0 ~~----,<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0\ =C2=A0 =C2=A0| | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 / =C2=A0\<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0/| =C2=A0 |/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0| | | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /~ =C2=A0 |<br>
(???) C2=A0_-~_ =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|| =C2=A0\ =C2=A0/<br>
(???) // )) | o =C2=A0o =C2=A0 =C2=A0\\---'<br>
(???) /_- | =C2=A0| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\<br>
(???) / =C2=A0 |____|\______\__\<br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| =C2=A0 / | =C2=A0 =C2=A0|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0|_ / =C2=A0 \ _|<br>
(???) C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/~___| =C2=A0/____\<br>
(???) br>
(???) ______________________________________________<br>
(???) opher-Project mailing list<br>
(???) a href=3D"mailto:Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org">Gopher-Project@li=
(SND) ts.alioth.debian.org</a><br>
(???) a href=3D"http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-p=
(???) oject" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li=
(SND) tinfo/gopher-project</a><br>
(???) /div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Damien CARO=
(???) <br>
(???) a href=3D"gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/" target=3D"_blank">gopher://dams.zapt=
(???) .org/1/</a><br>
(???) -e89a8f3bac0593d33004c2fd9544--
(???) -===============5299041243125707907==
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) -===============5299041243125707907==--
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 18:14:00 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:14:00 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=alioth.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.216.175])
(???) eceived: by qcso7 with SMTP id o7so403916qcs.6
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.229.137.137 with SMTP id w9mr14305277qct.67.1340295208099;
(???) eceived: by 10.229.51.140 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CANroBD0tE=fpGZk-4Snx5jqfNZDch8iDp5Zb+rfTWQscJ1LxwA@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:13:27 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <CAJvjBNam3M4cuz-+9x955wiZUZLv6jMvqwHF-4JXBjvQiK45_w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Wolfgang Faust <wolfgangmcq@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 51
(???) I think that the caps file, about.txt and robots.txt should be in
(???) he standard because many servers use them and there isn't a better
(PNG) lace to define them.
(???) HTTP error codes do provide a computer-readable explanation for what
(???) ent wrong, but I don't know of any gopher server which provides them
(???) nd it doesn't seem likely that servers would do so in the future. I'd
(???) ike to know what the rest of the community thinks about this.
(???) The redirect is for clients which don't support URL: links but which
(DOC) o support HTML. They will be sent to the correct location so that
(???) hey're not left wondering what went wrong.
(TN3) he example redirect is malformed HTML -- I thought I fixed it on the
(???) oogle Doc but I can't find the revision anywhere. It seems that it
(???) as mangled by the original email transmission and nobody noticed
(???) including me) because it looks OK at first glance. The valid HTML is:
(???) HTML>
(???) <HEAD>
(???) <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"refresh" content=3D"2;URL=3Dhttp://www.example.com/=
(???) >
(???) </HEAD>
(???) <BODY>
(???) You are following an external link to a Web site. You will be
(???) automatically taken to the site shortly. If you do not get sent
(???) there, please click
(???) <A HREF=3D"http://www.example.com/">here</A> to go to the web site.
(???) <P>
(???) The URL linked is:
(???) <P>
(???) <A HREF=3D"hhttp://www.example.com/">http://www.example.com/</A>
(???) <P>
(???) Thanks for using Gopher!
(???) </BODY>
(???) </HTML>
(???) n 6/21/12, Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) On 21 June 2012 09:28, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) > I agree, every modern server I saw have "about" node and many have
(???) > "robots.txt" and "caps.txt".
(???) >
(???) > I think you should consider writing your document in "RFC" format.
(???) >
(???) > Many RFC only formalize use of techs like robots.txt.
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > 2012/6/21 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >>
(???) >> On 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net> wrote:
(???) >> > Greetings.
(???) >> >
(???) >> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka
(???) >> > <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) >> >> Hello, world!
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft RFC
(???) >> >> is just about ready to be published. =A0Without further ado, allow me
(???) >> >> to
(???) >> >> present the new Gopher specification! =A0Unless anyone says otherwis=
(???) ,
(???) >> >> this is what will get published.
(???) >> >>
(???) >> >> http://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) >> >> [snip ... too long signature]
(???) >> >
(???) >> > I am against this draft:
(???) >> > 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >> > 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >> > 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >> > 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files in
(???) >> > =A0 =A0this draft does not solve anything. It can be sent as before
(???) >> > =A0 =A0and clients have to take some magic to know if it is part of
(???) >> > =A0 =A0the content or the transfer protocol.
(???) >> > 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item type
(???) >> > =A0 =A03 and predefined strings should simplify it.
(???) >> > 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?
(???) >> > 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have the
(???) >> > =A0 =A0URL: redirections in every selector. This would create much
(???) >> > =A0 =A0confusion without the =BBh=AB item type in conjunction.
(???) >> > 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This draft
(???) >> > =A0 =A0does not solve anything there.
(???) >> > 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are people
(???) >> > =A0 =A0restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoided?
(???) >> >
(???) >> > My =A0conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher is nothing
(???) >> > else
(???) >> > but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behaviour.
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> > Sincerely,
(???) >> >
(???) >> > Christoph Lohmann
(???) >> >
(???) >> >
(???) >> If caps and robots shouldn't be in the protocol specification, where
(???) >> does one standardise such things? =A0Several people actually
(???) >> Google-Doced that these things must be there.
(???) >>
(???) >> What I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently
(???) >> used, and there's no question that caps and robots are currently used.
(???) >>
(???) >> If I were to implement your changes, there would be nothing left but
(???) >> effectively the 1991 version of gopher.
(???) >>
(???)
(???) Mr Carol, just whom do you agree with? Me or Mr Lohmann?
(???)
(???) --
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/^\/^\
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\----|
(???) =A0 =A0_---'---~~~~-_
(???) =A0 =A0 ~~~|~~L~|~~~~
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(/_ =A0/~~--
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0\~ \ =A0/ =A0/~
(???) =A0 =A0__~\ =A0~ / =A0 ~~----,
(???) =A0 =A0\ =A0 =A0| | =A0 =A0 =A0 / =A0\
(???) =A0 =A0/| =A0 |/ =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
(???) =A0 =A0| | | o =A0o =A0 =A0 /~ =A0 |
(???) =A0_-~_ =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|| =A0\ =A0/
(???) (// )) | o =A0o =A0 =A0\\---'
(???) //_- | =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\
(???) // =A0 |____|\______\__\
(???) ~ =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 / | =A0 =A0|
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0|_ / =A0 \ _|
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0/~___| =A0/____\
(???)
(???) _______________________________________________
(???) Gopher-Project mailing list
(???) Gopher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???)
(???) - =
(TXT) 1010111 01101111 01101100 01100110
(???) ______________________________________________
(???) opher-Project mailing list
(???) opher-Project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(HTM) ttp://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project
(???) rom gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org Thu Jun 21 18:28:05 2012
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:28:05 +0200
(???) eceived: from wagner.debian.org ([217.196.43.132])
(???) eceived: from localhost ([::1] helo=wagner.debian.org)
(???) eceived: from mail-yw0-f42.google.com ([209.85.213.42])
(???) eceived: by yhfq11 with SMTP id q11so1025392yhf.29
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
(???) eceived: by 10.50.159.227 with SMTP id xf3mr8204461igb.24.1340296045413; Thu,
(???) eceived: by 10.64.12.81 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:27:25 -0700 (PDT)
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <CAJvjBNam3M4cuz-+9x955wiZUZLv6jMvqwHF-4JXBjvQiK45_w@mail.gmail.com>
(???) eferences: <CANroBD3tjK0h+Pg8qNjfUFsWJP-St8X090fceZJ+=SdyfNUKUw@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ate: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:27:25 +0200
(???) essage-ID: <CA+JTEPOdZd6Pm7P1E4O1R6A+wwv3gnpRjMkHcJk1ivmKXYG0Ug@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) -policyd-weight: using cached result; rate: -8.4
(???) -BeenThere: gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Mailman-Version: 2.1.13
(???) recedence: list
(???) eply-To: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Id: Gopher Project Discussion <gopher-project.lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/gopher-project>,
(???) ist-Archive: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/gopher-project>
(???) ist-Post: <mailto:gopher-project@lists.alioth.debian.org>
(???) ist-Help: <mailto:gopher-project-request@lists.alioth.debian.org?subject=help>
(???) ist-Subscribe: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project>,
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8165962522959062795=="
(???) ender: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) rrors-To: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 217.196.43.132
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-project-bounces+rachael=telefisk.org@lists.alioth.debian.org
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS34106 217.196.32.0/20
(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Draft RFC
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 52
(???) -===============8165962522959062795==
(???) ontent-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340f25ae468904c2fdfd0a
(???) -14dae9340f25ae468904c2fdfd0a
(???) ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(IMG) agree HTTP code IS a wrong idea and nobody will implement that.
(???) >* HTTP error codes do provide a computer-readable explanation for what
(???) >went wrong, but I don't know of any gopher server which provides them
(???) >and it doesn't seem likely that servers would do so in the future. I'd
(???) >like to know what the rest of the community thinks about this.
(???) nd... Bitch PLZ it's HTTP !!!!! U FUCKING KIDDING ME ?
(???) D
(PHO) 012/6/21 Wolfgang Faust <wolfgangmcq@gmail.com>
(???) * I think that the caps file, about.txt and robots.txt should be in
(???) the standard because many servers use them and there isn't a better
(???) place to define them.
(???) * HTTP error codes do provide a computer-readable explanation for what
(???) went wrong, but I don't know of any gopher server which provides them
(???) and it doesn't seem likely that servers would do so in the future. I'd
(???) like to know what the rest of the community thinks about this.
(???) * The redirect is for clients which don't support URL: links but which
(???) do support HTML. They will be sent to the correct location so that
(???) they're not left wondering what went wrong.
(???) The example redirect is malformed HTML -- I thought I fixed it on the
(???) Google Doc but I can't find the revision anywhere. It seems that it
(???) was mangled by the original email transmission and nobody noticed
(???) (including me) because it looks OK at first glance. The valid HTML is:
(???) <HTML>
(???) <HEAD>
(???) <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"refresh" content=3D"2;URL=3Dhttp://www.example.com=
(???) ">
(???) </HEAD>
(???) <BODY>
(???) You are following an external link to a Web site. You will be
(???) automatically taken to the site shortly. If you do not get sent
(???) there, please click
(???) <A HREF=3D"http://www.example.com/">here</A> to go to the web site.
(???) <P>
(???) The URL linked is:
(???) <P>
(???) <A HREF=3D"hhttp://www.example.com/">http://www.example.com/</A>
(???) <P>
(???) Thanks for using Gopher!
(???) </BODY>
(???) </HTML>
(???)
(???) On 6/21/12, Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) > On 21 June 2012 09:28, Damien Carol <damien.carol@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) >> I agree, every modern server I saw have "about" node and many have
(???) >> "robots.txt" and "caps.txt".
(???) >>
(???) >> I think you should consider writing your document in "RFC" format.
(???) >>
(???) >> Many RFC only formalize use of techs like robots.txt.
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >> 2012/6/21 Nick Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(???) >>>
(???) >>> On 21 June 2012 04:16, Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net> wrote:
(???) >>> > Greetings.
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:05 +0200 Nick Matavka
(???) >>> > <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) >>> >> Hello, world!
(???) >>> >>
(???) >>> >> Having spent several weeks writing this, I believe that the draft
(???) RFC
(???) >>> >> is just about ready to be published. Without further ado, allow m=
(???)
(???) >>> >> to
(???) >>> >> present the new Gopher specification! Unless anyone says otherwis=
(???) ,
(???) >>> >> this is what will get published.
(???) >>> >>
(???) >>> >> http://piratepad.net/gopher
(???) >>> >> [snip ... too long signature]
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> > I am against this draft:
(???) >>> > 1.) The caps file shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >>> > 2.) robots.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >>> > 3.) about.txt shouldn't be in the *protocol* specification.
(???) >>> > 4.) The definition of the full stop termination of text files in
(???) >>> > this draft does not solve anything. It can be sent as before
(???) >>> > and clients have to take some magic to know if it is part of
(???) >>> > the content or the transfer protocol.
(???) >>> > 5.) Why is there a need to include the HTTP error codes? Item type
(???) >>> > 3 and predefined strings should simplify it.
(???) >>> > 6.) Who uses this TITLE stuff?
(???) >>> > 7.) According to that draft proposal it is possible to have the
(???) >>> > URL: redirections in every selector. This would create much
(???) >>> > confusion without the =C2=BBh=C2=AB item type in conjunction.
(???) >>> > 8.) Servers still have to provide the redirection hack. This draft
(???) >>> > does not solve anything there.
(???) >>> > 9.) Why is there a definition of a redirect page? Why are people
(???) >>> > restricted in it? Couldn't it just be avoided?
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> > My conclusion is, that with that draft in action gopher is nothing
(???) >>> > else
(???) >>> > but a simplified HTTP with hacks and more unspecified behaviour.
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> > Sincerely,
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> > Christoph Lohmann
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> >
(???) >>> If caps and robots shouldn't be in the protocol specification, where
(???) >>> does one standardise such things? Several people actually
(???) >>> Google-Doced that these things must be there.
(???) >>>
(???) >>> What I am seeking to do is take a snapshot of Gopher as currently
(???) >>> used, and there's no question that caps and robots are currently used=