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(IMG) just built and released version 1.1 of the Gophernicus server. No huge
(???) hanges between this and 1.0, but since there is one security fix I do
(???) ecommend people to upgrade (non-zero-terminated strings were being
(PNG) rintf'ed - ugly but luckily not remotely exploitable).
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/1/software/gophernicus/server/
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(???) hangelog:
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(???) n 12/01/2010 10:19 AM, Kim Holviala wrote:
(???)
(???) I just built and released version 1.1 of the Gophernicus server. No huge
(???) changes between this and 1.0, but since there is one security fix I do
(???) recommend people to upgrade (non-zero-terminated strings were being
(???) printf'ed - ugly but luckily not remotely exploitable).
(???)
(???) ice, looking forward to getting it, your server seems somewhat hosed
(???) ight now though. Dont say you got ddos by the list :)
(???) egards
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Gophernicus server version 1.1 released
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(???) n 2010-12-01 12:52, Jacob Dahl Pind wrote:
(???) > I just built and released version 1.1 of the Gophernicus server.
(???)
(???) Nice, looking forward to getting it, your server seems somewhat hosed
(???) right now though. Dont say you got ddos by the list :)
(???) eah, it's just that the whole world is watching for the moment when I
(???) elease something.
(???) cough*
(???) erver seems ok to me? Are you connecting over IPv4 or IPv6? It might be
(???) hat our network connection is slightly over-used right - shouldn't be
(???) ut it's a possibility.
(???) Kim
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Gophernicus server version 1.1 released
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(???) n 2010-12-01 11:55, Kim Holviala wrote:
(???) Server seems ok to me? Are you connecting over IPv4 or IPv6? It might be
(???) that our network connection is slightly over-used right
(SND) /right/right now/
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Gophernicus server version 1.1 released
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(???) > Server seems ok to me? Are you connecting over IPv4 or IPv6? It might be
(???) > that our network connection is slightly over-used right
(???)
(???) s/right/right now/
(???)
(???) There are lots of people here doing VPN from two dozen different laptops
(???) to US... Probably uses lots of bandwidth so it might slow things down.
(???) eems okay now.
(???) -
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Usable text file display in Pocket Gopher (fwd)
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(???) elix reports in:
(???) ---- Forwarded message from Felix Plesoianu -----
(IMG) finally managed to implement text file display in a usable manner
(???) and incidentally Pocket Gopher starts faster than ever now). Hopefully
(???) his fixes the problem once and for all, and I can get around to all
(???) he other things that need to be done.
(???) ---- End of forwarded message from Felix Plesoianu -----
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(???) - Actually, we can overcome gravity (just not the paperwork involved). -------
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(???) ubject: [gopher] helsinki -> uppsala (gopher.floodgap.com)
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(GIF) opher.floodgap.com will be frozen and robot crawls will cease in anticipation
(???) f moving gopher.floodgap.com from helsinki, the old Power Mac 7300 + G3/500
(???) hat runs it now, to uppsala, the IBM Power 520 Express (2-way 4.2GHz POWER6)
(???) hat will be arriving in a few days. Only the news bots will remain active
(PNG) ulling down feeds; everything else will be suspended. You can still access
(???) verything but nothing will be updated.
(???) nce uppsala is activated, it will build its own database from scratch instead
(???) f copying over helsinki's. This is to take advantage of the new database and
(???) lso clean out all the deadwood, so you will notice renewed crawling activity
(???) rom an unusual address in the Floodgap network. There will then be a
(SND) witchover, and uppsala will (hopefully transparently) take over.
(TN3) he idea with uppsala is to combine stockholm (the Apple Network Server),
(HTM) elsinki and godthaab (the internal Q605 proxy server) into one big superserver
(???) hat runs everything. This server wasn't cheap, but should last for years and
(???) ears, and will cost less to run than the three boxes it is replacing.
(TN3) he migration will definitely be done by February 2011, although I imagine I
(???) ay have it done sooner.
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(???) ounds like great news to me Cameron. Nice upgrade on the server btw! What
(SND) ort of linux is powering it? Yellow Dog? Debian?
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(???) ounds like great news to me Cameron. Nice upgrade on the server btw! What sort of linux is powering it? Yellow Dog? Debian?<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div>
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(???) Sounds like great news to me Cameron. Nice upgrade on the server btw! What
(???) sort of linux is powering it? Yellow Dog? Debian?
(IMG) t's AIX, actually. I've had AIX experience since 3.2.5 and it's what I
(???) rust for enterprise systems (which is why I ponied up for a POWER box).
(SND) tockholm, the Apple Network Server it is (also) replacing, runs AIX 4.
(???) inux on Power has always been spotty, unfortunately. Back in the day YDL
(???) as the way to go, but even IBM's kind of given up on Linux on their Power
(???) achines (it's a different story on x86, of course). RHEL is still offered
(???) s a BTO option, and is certainly more economical, but it's mostly as an
(???) fterthought now.
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(???) n 2010-12-18 05:43, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) gopher.floodgap.com will be frozen and robot crawls will cease in anticipation
(???) of moving gopher.floodgap.com from helsinki, the old Power Mac 7300 + G3/500
(???) that runs it now, to uppsala, the IBM Power 520 Express (2-way 4.2GHz POWER6)
(TN3) hat's a nice machine for sure. I've got an extra pSeries 550 (dual P5)
(???) aiting for installation - I too want to transfer everything over to an
(???) IX machine. Linux is just too easy....
(???) Kim
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(???) That's a nice machine for sure. I've got an extra pSeries 550 (dual P5)
(???) waiting for installation - I too want to transfer everything over to an
(???) AIX machine. Linux is just too easy....
(???) OWER5 is pretty hot. How'd you end up with an "extra" ?
(IMG) like Linux fine, but I'm just used to the way AIX does things and it's
(???) eally the most optimized OS for the platform. Of course, 8GB of RAM and a
(ERR) x 15Krpm SAS RAID5 array help.
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(???) n 2010-12-18 07:18, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) > That's a nice machine for sure. I've got an extra pSeries 550 (dual P5)
(???) > waiting for installation - I too want to transfer everything over to an
(???) > AIX machine. Linux is just too easy....
(???)
(???) POWER5 is pretty hot. How'd you end up with an "extra" ?
(???) e have a pile of extra POWER4's and 5's at work waiting for scrapping,
(???) nd that 550 just happened to be one of the better "extra" ones....
(???) Kim
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(???) > > That's a nice machine for sure. I've got an extra pSeries 550 (dual P5)
(???) > > waiting for installation - I too want to transfer everything over to an
(???) > > AIX machine. Linux is just too easy....
(???) >
(???) > POWER5 is pretty hot. How'd you end up with an "extra" ?
(???)
(???) We have a pile of extra POWER4's and 5's at work waiting for scrapping,
(???) and that 550 just happened to be one of the better "extra" ones....
(IMG) got my Network Server almost exactly the same way :)
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(???) ey not bad. I hear good things about AIX compared to other UNIXes out
(???) here. Nice to know that is powering that sweet hardware you got coming in.
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(???) ey not bad. I hear good things about AIX compared to other UNIXes out there. Nice to know that is powering that sweet hardware you got coming in.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div>
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(???) Hey not bad. I hear good things about AIX compared to other UNIXes out
(???) there. Nice to know that is powering that sweet hardware you got coming in.
(???) s a proprietary Un*x it is probably the best, and I've used and administered
(???) and sometimes cursed at) SunOS, Solaris, HP/UX, BSDI, NetBSD and Linux. The
(???) hief disadvantage is the IBM lock-in and the associated costs. Software
(SND) ubscription is about average for a corporate OS support contract, but the
(???) eally nice things like power management and the xlc high-performance
(???) ompiler do not come cheap on top of the per-core activation fee.
(IMG) have relatively little good to say about HP/UX though. There's a reason
(???) hey call it HP/SUX. 11 was somewhat improved, but 9 and 10.20 were just
(???) bysmal by comparison and unfortunately that was the only OS our SIS vendor
(???) t the time would support. (Running Informix, no less.)
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(???) ice historical tidbit. I do remember when Apple made its first attempt at a
(???) NIX OS called A/UX. It was an interesting idea, but it suffered from poor
(SND) ales and flaky hardware compatibility issues. I even recall that only the
(???) pple CD-300 was the only drive you could use to install the OS to a
(???) acintosh.
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(???) ice historical tidbit. I do remember when Apple made its first attempt at =
(???) UNIX OS called A/UX. It was an interesting idea, but it suffered from poo=
(???) sales and flaky hardware compatibility issues. I even recall that only th=
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(???) tosh.<div>
(???) br></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div>
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(???) Nice historical tidbit. I do remember when Apple made its first attempt at a
(???) UNIX OS called A/UX. It was an interesting idea, but it suffered from poor
(???) sales and flaky hardware compatibility issues. I even recall that only the
(???) Apple CD-300 was the only drive you could use to install the OS to a
(???) Macintosh.
(???) y IIci in the bedroom "triple boots" System 7, MacMiNT and A/UX 3. It's
(???) ather nice, considering, but it was somewhat more arcane compared to the
(???) ther contemporary and more straightforward Unices, and making the most
(???) f it was difficult. It's sort of interesting to contrast it against OS X,
(???) aturally, because even though the concept is similar in theory the
mplementations are rather different. A/UX was more like "Classic" was the
(???) ntire interface running within Unix.
(???) acMiNT is more of a toy than anything else. But I get a lot of wear out
(???) f MachTen, which is sort of OS X turned inside out: instead of OS 9
(???) unning as a task in Mach, it's Mach running as a task in OS 9. It's my
(???) avourite way to run Unix on a classic Mac, and certainly the weirdest.
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(???) ow. I never played with MachTen before... I never realized it worked like
(???) hat. Very interesting indeed. I did know that it was a well supported open
(SND) ource project by then Apple Computer back in the 90s. I believe they even
(GIF) ave out discs to participants at a WWDC one year.
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(???) div>Wow. I never played with MachTen before... I never realized it worked =
(???) ike that. Very interesting indeed. I did know that it was a well supported=
(???) open source project by then Apple Computer back in the 90s. I believe they=
(???) even gave out discs to participants at a WWDC one year.<br>
(???) /div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div>
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(???) Wow. I never played with MachTen before... I never realized it worked like
(???) that. Very interesting indeed. I did know that it was a well supported open
(???) source project by then Apple Computer back in the 90s. I believe they even
(???) gave out discs to participants at a WWDC one year.
(IMG) think you're thinking of mkLinux. MachTen was always closed-source although
(???) hey used open source components in the userland. mkLinux was an Apple
(PNG) roject and the web site and CD images are up, though of course they haven't
(???) een updated in ages.
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(???) hh.... thanks for correcting me. I got my wires crossed. xD
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(???) div>Ahh.... thanks for correcting me. I got my wires crossed. xD<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div><br>
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(???) am, if you've got any questions about smitty, etc (smitty is the set
(???) p programme for aix) you just let me know. I've been an aix jockey
(SND) ince I was 10.
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(???) h, and same for triple eights (most aix people are scared of the
(PNG) hrase---if an aix geek sees 888 on an aix system, he will run away
(SND) creaming.
(???) n 19 December 2010 07:19, N. Theodore Matavka
(???) n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) Cam, if you've got any questions about smitty, etc (smitty is the set
(???) up programme for aix) you just let me know. =A0I've been an aix jockey
(???) since I was 10.
(???)
(???) On 18 December 2010 00:59, Matthew Nawrocki <matthew.nawrocki@gmail.com> =
(???) rote:
(???) > Ahh.... thanks for correcting me. I got my wires crossed. xD
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > Matt
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > _______________________________________________
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(???) n 2010-12-19 14:21, N. Theodore Matavka wrote:
(???) Oh, and same for triple eights (most aix people are scared of the
(???) phrase---if an aix geek sees 888 on an aix system, he will run away
(???) screaming.
(???) usr/lib/methods/showled 0x888
(???) -D
(???) not in front of an AIX box right now so the 0x888 part could be wrong)
(???) Kim
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(TN3) hey won't flash, tho.
(???) n 12/19/10, N. Theodore Matavka <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com> wrote:
(???) Cam, if you've got any questions about smitty, etc (smitty is the set
(???) up programme for aix) you just let me know. I've been an aix jockey
(???) since I was 10.
(???)
(???) On 18 December 2010 00:59, Matthew Nawrocki <matthew.nawrocki@gmail.com>
(???) wrote:
(???) > Ahh.... thanks for correcting me. I got my wires crossed. xD
(???) >
(???) >
(???) > Matt
(???) >
(???) >
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Major update to Web2Gopher
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(???) ello all,
(IMG) 'd kind of left Web2Gopher (http://wt.gopherite.org/) unmaintained for a
(???) hile, and so went back through over the last week and made a major update.
(IMG) 've cleaned up dead links, added a lot of new links, and most importantly
(???) nabled the site to recognize gopher friendly browsers (allowing them to use
(GIF) opher links natively) and funnels all other browsers through an http proxy.
(???) ynx, Camino, old Netscape, Classilla, Mosaic, Vonkeror, and appropriate
(???) ersions of Hyperlink, Firefox, SeaMonkey, and OmniWeb should all be able to
(???) rowse gopher links natively.
(TN3) here are some kinks I'm still working out:
(???) Mozilla derivatives like IceApe, IceWeasel, IceCat, Gnuzilla, etc. will be
(SND) hunted through a proxy unless they include the appropriate Firefox version
n their user agent string.
(???) only OmniWeb 5.10.1 and up are supported because their user agent string
(???) ses their build number (currently 622.10) and I have no idea what their
(???) irst gopher-supporting version's build number was. If anyone knows the
(???) uild number for OmniWeb 5.9.2, that would help me a lot.
(???) Support for Vonkeror and HyperLink have not been tested. Vonkeror should
(???) ork, all the same. I was not able to find any info on HyperLink's user
(???) gent string and had to guess as to what it might contain, so if anyone has
(???) hat, I can make sure whether my guess was correct or not.
(???) Also bad browsers that have add-ons that allow them to handle gopher (such
(???) s Firefox 5 or Google Chrome with Overbite, or Konqueror with kio_gopher)
(???) ill get shunted through the proxy rather than letting the add-ons handle
(GIF) opher.
(???) s always, I'm open to suggestions if I've missed any links or if there's
(???) nything else about the page anyone thinks could be improved.
(???) appy Holidays,
(???) esley
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(???) ello all,<br>I'd kind of left Web2Gopher (<a href=3D"http://wt.gopheri=
(???) e.org/">http://wt.gopherite.org/</a>) unmaintained for a while, and so wen=
(???) back through over the last week and made a major update. I've cleaned=
(???) up dead links, added a lot of new links, and most importantly enabled the =
(SND) ite to recognize gopher friendly browsers (allowing them to use gopher lin=
(???) s natively) and funnels all other browsers through an http proxy. Lynx, Ca=
(???) ino, old Netscape, Classilla, Mosaic, Vonkeror, and appropriate versions o=
(???) Hyperlink, Firefox, SeaMonkey, and OmniWeb should all be able to browse g=
(???) pher links natively.<br>
(???) br>There are some kinks I'm still working out:<br>*Mozilla derivatives=
(???) like IceApe, IceWeasel, IceCat, Gnuzilla, etc. will be shunted through a p=
(???) oxy unless they include the appropriate Firefox version in their user agen=
(???) string.<br>
(???) br>*only OmniWeb 5.10.1 and up are supported because their user agent stri=
(???) g uses their build number (currently 622.10) and I have no idea what their=
(???) first gopher-supporting version's build number was. If anyone knows th=
(???) build number for OmniWeb 5.9.2, that would help me a lot.<br>
(???) br>*Support for Vonkeror and HyperLink have not been tested. Vonkeror shou=
(???) d work, all the same. I was not able to find any info on HyperLink's u=
(SND) er agent string and had to guess as to what it might contain, so if anyone=
(???) has that, I can make sure whether my guess was correct or not.<br>
(???) br>*Also bad browsers that have add-ons that allow them to handle gopher (=
(SND) uch as Firefox 5 or Google Chrome with Overbite, or Konqueror with kio_gop=
(HTM) er) will get shunted through the proxy rather than letting the add-ons han=
(DOC) le gopher.<br>
(???) br>As always, I'm open to suggestions if I've missed any links or =
f there's anything else about the page anyone thinks could be improved=
(???) <br><br>Happy Holidays,<br>Wesley<br>
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(???) I'd kind of left Web2Gopher (http://wt.gopherite.org/) unmaintained for a
(???) while, and so went back through over the last week and made a major update.
(???) ice work!
(???) There are some kinks I'm still working out:
(???) *Mozilla derivatives like IceApe, IceWeasel, IceCat, Gnuzilla, etc. will be
(???) shunted through a proxy unless they include the appropriate Firefox version
(???) in their user agent string.
(???) ...]
(???) *Also bad browsers that have add-ons that allow them to handle gopher (such
(???) as Firefox 5 or Google Chrome with Overbite, or Konqueror with kio_gopher)
(???) will get shunted through the proxy rather than letting the add-ons handle
(???) gopher.
(???) or Chrome this isn't a bad thing since they would just get bounced to a
(PNG) roxy anyway with Overbite Chrome, but that's kind of a bummer for Firefox.
(???) ow about a "force links to gopher://" page where the links are always
(GIF) opher://, regardless of the browser sniff, as an option?
(???) *Support for Vonkeror and HyperLink have not been tested. Vonkeror should
(???) work, all the same. I was not able to find any info on HyperLink's user
(???) agent string and had to guess as to what it might contain, so if anyone has
(???) that, I can make sure whether my guess was correct or not.
(???) onkeror is slick. Who wrote that?
(TN3) he user agent for HyperLink is
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(???) n Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>wrote:
(???) > I'd kind of left Web2Gopher (http://wt.gopherite.org/) unmaintained for
(???) a
(???) > while, and so went back through over the last week and made a major
(???) update.
(???)
(???) Nice work!
(???)
(???) > There are some kinks I'm still working out:
(???) > *Mozilla derivatives like IceApe, IceWeasel, IceCat, Gnuzilla, etc. will
(???) be
(???) > shunted through a proxy unless they include the appropriate Firefox
(???) version
(???) > in their user agent string.
(???) [...]
(???) > *Also bad browsers that have add-ons that allow them to handle gopher
(???) (such
(???) > as Firefox 5 or Google Chrome with Overbite, or Konqueror with
(???) kio_gopher)
(???) > will get shunted through the proxy rather than letting the add-ons handle
(???) > gopher.
(???)
(???) For Chrome this isn't a bad thing since they would just get bounced to a
(???) proxy anyway with Overbite Chrome, but that's kind of a bummer for Firefox.
(???) How about a "force links to gopher://" page where the links are always
(???) gopher://, regardless of the browser sniff, as an option?
(???)
(TN3) here's now a link for using gopher regardless of browser sniffing.
(???)
(???) > *Support for Vonkeror and HyperLink have not been tested. Vonkeror should
(???) > work, all the same. I was not able to find any info on HyperLink's user
(???) > agent string and had to guess as to what it might contain, so if anyone
(???) has
(???) > that, I can make sure whether my guess was correct or not.
(???)
(???) Vonkeror is slick. Who wrote that?
(???)
(IMG) t looks like it's a fork of Conqueror (http://conkeror.org/) by whoever
(???) aintains zzo38computer.cjb.net/
(???)
(???) The user agent for HyperLink is
(???)
(???) Lynx (compatible; HyperLink-Parsing-Proxy C64/128)
(???)
(TN3) hanks. The page should recognize HyperLink now.
(???)
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(???) br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Cameron=
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(???) e@floodgap.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
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(???) div class=3D"im">> I'd kind of left Web2Gopher (<a href=3D"http://w=
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(???) ed for a<br>
(???) gt; while, and so went back through over the last week and made a major up=
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(???) /div>Nice work!<br>
(???) div class=3D"im"><br>
(???) gt; There are some kinks I'm still working out:<br>
(???) gt; *Mozilla derivatives like IceApe, IceWeasel, IceCat, Gnuzilla, etc. wi=
(???) l be<br>
(???) gt; shunted through a proxy unless they include the appropriate Firefox ve=
(???) sion<br>
(???) gt; in their user agent string.<br>
(???) /div>[...]<br>
(???) div class=3D"im">> *Also bad browsers that have add-ons that allow them=
(???) to handle gopher (such<br>
(???) gt; as Firefox 5 or Google Chrome with Overbite, or Konqueror with kio_gop=
(HTM) er)<br>
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(DOC) le<br>
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(???) br>
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(???) ox.<br>
(???) ow about a "force links to gopher://" page where the links are a=
(???) ways<br>
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ng. <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
(PNG) t 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
(???) div class=3D"im"><br>
(???) gt; *Support for Vonkeror and HyperLink have not been tested. Vonkeror sho=
(???) ld<br>
(???) gt; work, all the same. I was not able to find any info on HyperLink's=
(???) user<br>
(???) gt; agent string and had to guess as to what it might contain, so if anyon=
(???) has<br>
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(???) br>
(???) /div>Vonkeror is slick. Who wrote that?<br></blockquote><div><br>It looks =
(???) ike it's a fork of Conqueror (<a href=3D"http://conkeror.org/">http://=
(???) onkeror.org/</a>) by whoever maintains <a href=3D"http://zzo38computer.cjb=
(???) net/">zzo38computer.cjb.net/</a> <br>
(???) /div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
(???) border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
(???) br>
(TN3) he user agent for HyperLink is<br>
(???) br>
(???) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Lynx (compatible; HyperLink-Parsing-Proxy C64/1=
(PHO) 8)<br></blockquote><div><br>Thanks. The page should recognize HyperLink no=
(???) .<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
(TXT) .8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
(???) br>
(???) -<br>
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: <a href=3D"http://www.camero=
(???) kaiser.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.cameronkaiser.com/</a> --<br>
(???) =C2=A0Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * <a href=3D"http://www.floodgap.c=
(???) m" target=3D"_blank">www.floodgap.com</a> * <a href=3D"mailto:ckaiser@floo=
(DOC) gap.com">ckaiser@floodgap.com</a><br>
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