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(???) i;
(???) ecently, the GeoCities archive by Archive Team and other volunteers has
(???) ecame famous. I have added some links about Gopher archives to the wiki[1].
(???) erhaps we can work together in future projects.
(???) egards,
(???) mijrp
(???) 1] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Gopher
(PHO) 010/9/16 emijrp <emijrp@gmail.com>
(???) Bumping these amazing links for the new people on this list.
(???)
(???) 2010/8/12 emijrp <emijrp@gmail.com>
(???)
(???) Thanks.
(???) >
(???) > 2010/8/11 John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) >
(???) > Hi folks,
(???) >>
(???) >> I am very pleased to announce that http://torrent.ibiblio.org is now
(???) >> hosting the Gopher torrents, and is permaseeding them. This includes both
(???) >> the 2007 spider copy and my earlier quux.org mirror collection.
(???) >>
(???) >> The links are:
(???) >>
(???) >> http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/181
(???) >>
(???) >> and
(???) >>
(???) >> http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/182
(???) >>
(???) >> I'm very pleased to finally have an institutional home for the data.
(???) >>
(???) >> -- John
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >> _______________________________________________
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(???) i;<br><br>Recently, the GeoCities archive by Archive Team and other volunt=
(???) ers has became famous. I have added some links about Gopher archives to th=
(???) wiki[1]. Perhaps we can work together in future projects.<br><br>Regards,=
(???) br>
(???) mijrp<br><br>[1] <a href=3D"http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=3DG=
(???) pher">http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=3DGopher</a><br><br><div =
(???) lass=3D"gmail_quote">2010/9/16 emijrp <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mai=
(???) to:emijrp@gmail.com">emijrp@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
(???) blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
(???) -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Bumping these ama=
(???) ing links for the new people on this list.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
(???) ">
(PHO) 010/8/12 emijrp <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:emijrp@gmail.com" =
(???) arget=3D"_blank">emijrp@gmail.com</a>></span><div><div></div><div class=
(???) 3D"h5"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
(TXT) .8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
(TN3) hanks.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/8/11 John Goerzen <span dir=
(???) 3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org" target=3D"_blank">jgo=
(???) rzen@complete.org</a>></span><div><div></div><div><br><blockquote class=
(???) 3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid=
(???) rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
(???) i folks,<br>
(???) br>
(IMG) am very pleased to announce that <a href=3D"http://torrent.ibiblio.org" t=
(???) rget=3D"_blank">http://torrent.ibiblio.org</a> is now hosting the Gopher t=
(???) rrents, and is permaseeding them. =A0This includes both the 2007 spider co=
(PNG) y and my earlier <a href=3D"http://quux.org" target=3D"_blank">quux.org</a=
(???) mirror collection.<br>
(???) br>
(TN3) he links are:<br>
(???) br>
(???) a href=3D"http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/181" target=3D"_blank">http://tor=
(???) ent.ibiblio.org/doc/181</a><br>
(???) br>
(???) nd<br>
(???) br>
(???) a href=3D"http://torrent.ibiblio.org/doc/182" target=3D"_blank">http://tor=
(???) ent.ibiblio.org/doc/182</a><br>
(???) br>
(IMG) 'm very pleased to finally have an institutional home for the data.<br=
(???) <font color=3D"#888888">
(???) br>
(???) - John</font><div><div></div><div><br>
(???) br>
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(???) n 11/02/2010 06:44 AM, emijrp wrote:
(???) Hi;
(???)
(???) Recently, the GeoCities archive by Archive Team and other volunteers has
(???) became famous. I have added some links about Gopher archives to the
(???) wiki[1]. Perhaps we can work together in future projects.
(???) ice! I've been very happy to read about the Geocities preservation
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(???) - John
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(???) i gopher guys,
(???) eing fed up with the GUI browsers sucking up all RAM and CPU on my
(???) aptop, i tried to dig up some old friends from back then [TM].
(IMG) found two attempts on bringing NCSA Mosaic into the third millenium,
(???) ne by Cameron and one other. The second one seemed to be untouched
(SND) ince 2002 while Cameron seems to work on it nowadays. Apparently, the
(PNG) orting to more recent OSes has been done while maintaining the
(???) riginal semi-static build, which i ran into problems with.
(???) irst, i wouldn't want to make a static build for my laptop as RAM is
(???) lready scarce in modern terms (only 512 Meg). Second, it doesn't work
(???) ut-of-the-box either (static linking that is) due to some library
ssues. Well, those are probably caused by my setup, but i'm not deep
(???) nough into that to tell.
(???) ow i tried to compile the stuff dynamically, which turns up some other
(???) maybe related) problems. The missing png_info_init() i could sorta
(SND) olve myself, the called function is deprecated since libpng-0.95
(???) somehwere around 1997) but supposedly one could use
(PNG) ng_create_info_struct() which i did. After that, changing the library
(SND) ettings in the Makefile to -lpng and -ljpeg seems to make a compile
(PNG) ossible, unfortunately the freshly crompiled Mosaic crahses before
(???) ven drawing a window :-(
(???) ny hints on that?
(???) egards,
(???) lorian
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(???) being fed up with the GUI browsers sucking up all RAM and CPU on my
(???) laptop, i tried to dig up some old friends from back then [TM].
(???) I found two attempts on bringing NCSA Mosaic into the third millenium,
(???) one by Cameron and one other. The second one seemed to be untouched
(???) since 2002 while Cameron seems to work on it nowadays. Apparently, the
(???) porting to more recent OSes has been done while maintaining the
(???) original semi-static build, which i ran into problems with.
(???)
(???) First, i wouldn't want to make a static build for my laptop as RAM is
(???) already scarce in modern terms (only 512 Meg). Second, it doesn't work
(???) out-of-the-box either (static linking that is) due to some library
(???) issues. Well, those are probably caused by my setup, but i'm not deep
(???) enough into that to tell.
(???) Now i tried to compile the stuff dynamically, which turns up some other
(???) (maybe related) problems. The missing png_info_init() i could sorta
(???) solve myself, the called function is deprecated since libpng-0.95
(???) (somehwere around 1997) but supposedly one could use
(???) png_create_info_struct() which i did. After that, changing the library
(???) settings in the Makefile to -lpng and -ljpeg seems to make a compile
(???) possible, unfortunately the freshly crompiled Mosaic crahses before
(???) even drawing a window :-(
(IMG) f you run it in gdb, what does the backtrace look like?
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
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(???) n 2010-11-07 23:14, Florian E. Teply wrote:
(???) First, i wouldn't want to make a static build for my laptop as RAM is
(???) already scarce in modern terms (only 512 Meg).
(???) kimmy@x301 ~]$ ldd bin/Mosaic
(???) linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fffde7ff000)
(???) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00007fc72bfbd000)
(???) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x00007fc72bdac000)
(???) libXm.so.3 => not found
(???) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x00007fc72bb91000)
(???) libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x00007fc72b92d000)
(???) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fc72b5f0000)
(???) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00007fc72b3d5000)
(???) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00007fc72b1cd000)
(???) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007fc72ae6b000)
(???) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007fc72ac4f000)
(???) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fc72aa4b000)
(???) libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007fc72a846000)
(???) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fc72c1e3000)
(???) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00007fc72a643000)
(???) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007fc72a43e000)
(???) ot completely static build for me anyway... and it seems that I'm
(???) issing libXm :-). What else did you want as libraries?
(???) ooking at the sources, at least these are built statically:
(???) kimmy@x301 mosaic27ck8]$ ls -d lib*
(???) ibdtm libhtmlw libnet libnut libwww2 libXmx
(???) lso libpng, libjpeg and libgif are strangely integrated into the
(???) odebase... I probably wouldn't even try to separate those...
(???) Second, it doesn't work
(???) out-of-the-box either (static linking that is) due to some library
(???) issues.
(???) mm. Worked for me for my frankendebian system (part testing, part
(???) nstable, some experimental and a doze of ubuntu) a few months ago.
(???) ooks like it doesn't work now since I'm missing Xm.
(???) fiddling with stuff]
(???) ust downloaded the latest version from Cameron (mosaic27ck9) and it
(???) orked on my system without any patching. Version k8 required some
(???) iddling with readline() to work in Linux but this one worked out of the
(???) ox.
(IMG) have these development packages installed:
(???) kimmy@x301 mosaic27ck9]$ dpkg --get-selections | grep -- -dev | awk '{
(PNG) rint $1 }' | xargs echo
(???) utotools-dev dpkg-dev libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libice-dev libjpeg62-dev
(???) ibmotif-dev libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev libossp-sa-dev
(???) ibpng12-dev libpthread-stubs0-dev libsm-dev libstdc++6-4.4-dev
(???) ibx11-dev libxau-dev libxcb1-dev libxdmcp-dev libxext-dev libxmu-dev
(???) ibxpm-dev libxt-dev linux-libc-dev manpages-dev x11proto-core-dev
(???) 11proto-input-dev x11proto-kb-dev x11proto-print-dev x11proto-xext-dev
(???) trans-dev xutils-dev zlib1g-dev
(TN3) hat's probably way more than enough though, I've got devs for other
(SND) oftware too.
(???) Kim
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(???) im Holviala <kim@holviala.com> wrote:
(???) On 2010-11-07 23:14, Florian E. Teply wrote:
(???)
(???) > First, i wouldn't want to make a static build for my laptop as RAM
(???) > is already scarce in modern terms (only 512 Meg).
(???)
(???) [kimmy@x301 ~]$ ldd bin/Mosaic
(???) linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fffde7ff000)
(???) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00007fc72bfbd000)
(???) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x00007fc72bdac000)
(???) libXm.so.3 => not found
(???) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x00007fc72bb91000)
(???) libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x00007fc72b92d000)
(???) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fc72b5f0000)
(???) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00007fc72b3d5000)
(???) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00007fc72b1cd000)
(???) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007fc72ae6b000)
(???) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007fc72ac4f000)
(???) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fc72aa4b000)
(???) libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007fc72a846000)
(???) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fc72c1e3000)
(???) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00007fc72a643000)
(???) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007fc72a43e000)
(???)
(???) Not completely static build for me anyway... and it seems that I'm
(???) missing libXm :-). What else did you want as libraries?
(???)
(???) ell, ldd here spits out some more, libjpeg and libpng amongst it as
(???) ell as libz and libm. Just exchanged all calls for libxy.a to -lxy in
(???) he Makefile.
(???) Looking at the sources, at least these are built statically:
(???)
(???) [kimmy@x301 mosaic27ck8]$ ls -d lib*
(???) libdtm libhtmlw libnet libnut libwww2 libXmx
(???)
(???) ell, they hopefully are taken care of in the Makefile of Mosaic, so i
(???) ctually don't care too much about them.
(???) Also libpng, libjpeg and libgif are strangely integrated into the
(???) codebase... I probably wouldn't even try to separate those...
(???)
(???) ell, i haven't dug that deep into Mosaic either, but judging from the
(???) rror message i got at least for libpng it's the fact that they're
(???) sing some function that's declared internal since version 0.95 (about
(DIR) 998 i think). After changing the function call to the "new" one it
(???) ompiled fine. By tweaking the Makefile i coaxed it into including
(???) ibjpeg dynamically as well, libgif i haven't seen though.
(???) o i might just caused the breaking by that. Dunno.
(???) > Second, it doesn't work
(???) > out-of-the-box either (static linking that is) due to some library
(???) > issues.
(???)
(???) Hmm. Worked for me for my frankendebian system (part testing, part
(???) unstable, some experimental and a doze of ubuntu) a few months ago.
(???) Looks like it doesn't work now since I'm missing Xm.
(???)
(???) ell, here it is a fairly up-to-date Gentoo on PPC. And i believe all
(DOC) ependencies are fulfilled (unless there are version issues i didn't
(???) otice), but i don't know for sure.
(???) [fiddling with stuff]
(???)
(???) Just downloaded the latest version from Cameron (mosaic27ck9) and it
(???) worked on my system without any patching. Version k8 required some
(???) fiddling with readline() to work in Linux but this one worked out of
(???) the box.
(???)
(???) ead about that one somewhere, but didn't need to apparently.
(???) I have these development packages installed:
(???)
(???) [kimmy@x301 mosaic27ck9]$ dpkg --get-selections | grep -- -dev | awk
(???) '{ print $1 }' | xargs echo
(???)
(???) autotools-dev dpkg-dev libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libice-dev
(???) libjpeg62-dev libmotif-dev libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev
(???) libossp-sa-dev libpng12-dev libpthread-stubs0-dev libsm-dev
(???) libstdc++6-4.4-dev libx11-dev libxau-dev libxcb1-dev libxdmcp-dev
(???) libxext-dev libxmu-dev libxpm-dev libxt-dev linux-libc-dev
(???) manpages-dev x11proto-core-dev x11proto-input-dev x11proto-kb-dev
(???) x11proto-print-dev x11proto-xext-dev xtrans-dev xutils-dev zlib1g-dev
(???)
(???) That's probably way more than enough though, I've got devs for other
(???) software too.
(???)
(???) robably enough. Given the nature of gentoo, there is no such thing
(???) here as development packages here.
(???) ust compiling gdb as we speak to check Camerons suggestion.
(???) egards,
(???) lorian
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(???) ameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) > being fed up with the GUI browsers sucking up all RAM and CPU on my
(???) > laptop, i tried to dig up some old friends from back then [TM].
(???) > I found two attempts on bringing NCSA Mosaic into the third
(???) > millenium, one by Cameron and one other. The second one seemed to
(???) > be untouched since 2002 while Cameron seems to work on it nowadays.
(???) > Apparently, the porting to more recent OSes has been done while
(???) > maintaining the original semi-static build, which i ran into
(???) > problems with.
(???) >
(???) > First, i wouldn't want to make a static build for my laptop as RAM
(???) > is already scarce in modern terms (only 512 Meg). Second, it
(???) > doesn't work out-of-the-box either (static linking that is) due to
(???) > some library issues. Well, those are probably caused by my setup,
(???) > but i'm not deep enough into that to tell.
(???) > Now i tried to compile the stuff dynamically, which turns up some
(???) > other (maybe related) problems. The missing png_info_init() i could
(???) > sorta solve myself, the called function is deprecated since
(???) > libpng-0.95 (somehwere around 1997) but supposedly one could use
(???) > png_create_info_struct() which i did. After that, changing the
(???) > library settings in the Makefile to -lpng and -ljpeg seems to make
(???) > a compile possible, unfortunately the freshly crompiled Mosaic
(???) > crahses before even drawing a window :-(
(???)
(???) If you run it in gdb, what does the backtrace look like?
(???)
(TN3) here we go:
(???) gdb) run
(???) tarting program: /home/floh/ebuilds/mosaic-ck/src/Mosaic
(???) rogram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(TXT) x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0, iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(DIR) 678
(???) gdb) backtrace
(???) 0 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0, iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) 1 0x10077718 in set_pref_boolean (pref_id=121, value=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1168
(???) 2 0x1001299c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4437
(???) 3 0x10006b40 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at main.c:251
(???) gdb)
(???) o if I understand this correctly, Mosaic segfaults due to dereferenciong a NULL pointer while trying to get the color depth of the screen. Weird.
(???) egards,
(???) lorian
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(???) there are no graphical gopher clients on my N900, so if we consider
(???) osaic one of those then we're on topic :-)
(???) uilt the latest Mosaic on my N900 today, required quite a lot of
(???) iddling but in the end the build was succesfull. This was with the
(???) HOLE F*CKIN build environment installed into my N900 - it required so
(???) uch room from root that I had to move stuff around quite a lot...
(???) nyway...
(???) uild succeeded, but apparently the N900's fonts are TTF only. Well,
(???) here's -misc-fixed- but the rest are TrueType. Tried installing 100dpi
(???) onts from Debian but couldn't get it up and running as the X server
(DOC) oesn't have font paths set (so it failed to find the installed fonts)...
(???) h well. Gotta sleep, need to think about this more tomorrow.
(???) user@n900 ~/code/mosaic/mosaic27ck9/src]$ ./Mosaic
(???) arning: Cannot convert string
(???) -adobe-times-medium-r-normal-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) arning: Cannot Get Font
(???) adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal-*-*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-*Warning:
(???) plash Screen has been aborted.
(???) Reason: Could not load version font.
(???) nyone know how to list the configured font dirs from a running X server?
(???) Kim
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(???) n 2010-11-08 22:17, Kim Holviala wrote:
(???) Build succeeded, but apparently the N900's fonts are TTF only.
(???) ince we've been kinda discussing about the N900 here... I found out
(???) hat Maemo is configured as TrueType/Fontconfig only - as in there is
(???) bsolutely nothing related to X11 server-side fonts on either the device
(???) r in the repos.
(???) ust in case someone's thinking "hey, I'll port this simple X11 proggy
(???) o the N900" - it might not be so easy. I couldn't even get something as
(SND) imple as xset up and running...
(???) o, no Mosaic on the N900, unfortunately.
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(???) Since we've been kinda discussing about the N900 here... I found out
(???) that Maemo is configured as TrueType/Fontconfig only - as in there is
(???) absolutely nothing related to X11 server-side fonts on either the device
(???) or in the repos.
(TN3) hat really sucks. Looking like we might need a Mobile Firefox port of
(???) verbite after all.
(???) lorian, I'm reviewing your backtrace -- thanks.
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(???) at down with this.
(???) (gdb) run
(???) Starting program: /home/floh/ebuilds/mosaic-ck/src/Mosaic
(???)
(???) Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(???) 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0, iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) 1678
(???) (gdb) backtrace
(???) #0 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0, iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) #1 0x10077718 in set_pref_boolean (pref_id=121, value=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1168
(???) #2 0x1001299c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4437
(???) #3 0x10006b40 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at main.c:251
(???) (gdb)
(???)
(???) So if I understand this correctly, Mosaic segfaults due to dereferenciong a
(???) NULL pointer while trying to get the color depth of the screen. Weird.
(???) o, this crash is in prefs. It seems not to like an existing? preferences
(???) ile. Do you have one already? What happens if you delete it?
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(???) ameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) Sat down with this.
(???)
(???) > (gdb) run
(???) > Starting program: /home/floh/ebuilds/mosaic-ck/src/Mosaic
(???) >
(???) > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(???) > 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0,
(???) > iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) > 1678
(???) > #0 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0,
(???) > iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678 #1 0x10077718 in
(???) > set_pref_boolean (pref_id=121, value=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1168 #2
(???) > 0x1001299c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4437 #3
(???) > 0x10006b40 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at
(???) > main.c:251 (gdb)
(???) >
(???) > So if I understand this correctly, Mosaic segfaults due to
(???) > dereferenciong a NULL pointer while trying to get the color depth
(???) > of the screen. Weird.
(???)
(???) No, this crash is in prefs. It seems not to like an existing?
(???) preferences file. Do you have one already? What happens if you delete
(???) it?
(???)
(???) ell, until two minutes ago i beleived there was no prefs file as i
(???) ever produced one. On the other hand, i just found one in ~/.mosaic .
(???) ad a look at it, it referenced Mosaic-CK. Deleted it, and tried again,
(SND) ame result. The file reappeared, so apparently Mosaic creates it when
(SND) tarted first time.
(IMG) don`t know, but could this be caused different endianness?? PPC is
(???) ig-endian IIRC while most of the rest is little-endian.
(???) egards,
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(???) > > So if I understand this correctly, Mosaic segfaults due to
(???) > > dereferenciong a NULL pointer while trying to get the color depth
(???) > > of the screen. Weird.
(???) >
(???) > No, this crash is in prefs. It seems not to like an existing?
(???) > preferences file. Do you have one already? What happens if you delete
(???) > it?
(???) >
(???) Well, until two minutes ago i beleived there was no prefs file as i
(???) never produced one. On the other hand, i just found one in ~/.mosaic .
(???) Had a look at it, it referenced Mosaic-CK. Deleted it, and tried again,
(???) same result. The file reappeared, so apparently Mosaic creates it when
(???) started first time.
(???) I don`t know, but could this be caused different endianness?? PPC is
(???) big-endian IIRC while most of the rest is little-endian.
(???) an I take a look at what it's creating? Either send me offlist as an
(???) ttachment or to the list, whichever is easier.
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(???) Starting program: /home/floh/ebuilds/mosaic-ck/src/Mosaic
(???)
(???) Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(???) 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0, iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) 1678
(???) (gdb) backtrace
(???) #0 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0, iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) #1 0x10077718 in set_pref_boolean (pref_id=121, value=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1168
(???) #2 0x1001299c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4437
(???) #3 0x10006b40 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at main.c:251
(???) (gdb)
(???) kay. I can't get this to trigger, but I think I understand what the problem
s. In prefs.c, change line 1677-1678:
(???) case eSPLASHSCREEN:
(???) thePrefsStructP->RdataP->splashScreen =
(???) *((Boolean *)incoming);
(DUP) thePrefsStructP->RdataP->splashScreen = bincoming;
(???) break;
(???) oes this fix it? If so, I'll add to ck10.
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(???) ameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) > Starting program: /home/floh/ebuilds/mosaic-ck/src/Mosaic
(???) >
(???) > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(???) > 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0,
(???) > iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) > 1678
(???) > #0 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0,
(???) > iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678 #1 0x10077718 in
(???) > set_pref_boolean (pref_id=121, value=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1168 #2
(???) > 0x1001299c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4437 #3
(???) > 0x10006b40 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at
(???) > main.c:251 (gdb)
(???)
(???) Okay. I can't get this to trigger, but I think I understand what the
(???) problem is. In prefs.c, change line 1677-1678:
(???)
(???) case eSPLASHSCREEN:
(???) - thePrefsStructP->RdataP->splashScreen =
(???) - *((Boolean *)incoming);
(???) + thePrefsStructP->RdataP->splashScreen = bincoming;
(???) break;
(???)
(???) Does this fix it? If so, I'll add to ck10.
(???)
(TN3) hat does indeed fix it. Just being nosy: what would the underlying
(PNG) roblem be? To me, the change indicates a typecast that doesn't work as
ntended, even though bincoming seems to be exactly the boolean value
(???) he typecast was meant to produce.
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(???) > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(???) > > 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0,
(???) > > iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678
(???) > > 1678
(???) > > #0 0x10078ae4 in set_pref_solid (pref_id=121, incoming=0x0,
(???) > > iincoming=0, bincoming=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1678 #1 0x10077718 in
(???) > > set_pref_boolean (pref_id=121, value=0 '\000') at prefs.c:1168 #2
(???) > > 0x1001299c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4437 #3
(???) > > 0x10006b40 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at
(???) > > main.c:251 (gdb)
(???) >
(???) > Okay. I can't get this to trigger, but I think I understand what the
(???) > problem is. In prefs.c, change line 1677-1678:
(???) >
(???) > case eSPLASHSCREEN:
(???) > - thePrefsStructP->RdataP->splashScreen =
(???) > - *((Boolean *)incoming);
(???) > + thePrefsStructP->RdataP->splashScreen = bincoming;
(???) > break;
(???) >
(???) > Does this fix it? If so, I'll add to ck10.
(???)
(???) That does indeed fix it. Just being nosy: what would the underlying
(???) problem be? To me, the change indicates a typecast that doesn't work as
(???) intended, even though bincoming seems to be exactly the boolean value
(???) the typecast was meant to produce.
(TN3) he redundant bincoming and iincoming were added by me in ck9 to solve
(???) his problem with preferences in general. NCSA never finished the code
(???) hat hooked up reading the preferences file to actually storing prefs in
(???) emory, so when I turned it on, everything dereferenced a null pointer
(???) nd crashed. I added the redundant arguments so that for simple prefs a
(SND) imple value could be passed along directly (strings still need a pointer
(???) f course) and there would be no messy mucking around, but I only did this
(???) or the ones I needed to get running. Obviously I missed one, and I should
(???) ust do the rest of them for ck10 at the same time.
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(???) ameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) > That does indeed fix it. Just being nosy: what would the underlying
(???) > problem be? To me, the change indicates a typecast that doesn't
(???) > work as intended, even though bincoming seems to be exactly the
(???) > boolean value the typecast was meant to produce.
(???)
(???) The redundant bincoming and iincoming were added by me in ck9 to solve
(???) this problem with preferences in general. NCSA never finished the code
(???) that hooked up reading the preferences file to actually storing prefs
(???) in memory, so when I turned it on, everything dereferenced a null
(???) pointer and crashed. I added the redundant arguments so that for
(???) simple prefs a simple value could be passed along directly (strings
(???) still need a pointer of course) and there would be no messy mucking
(???) around, but I only did this for the ones I needed to get running.
(???) Obviously I missed one, and I should just do the rest of them for
(???) ck10 at the same time.
(???)
(???) TW, i just catched another one during runtime. Happens already when
(???) ccessing google at the result pages. I had two versions of that one
(???) hough and attached three backtraces in total. But that probably has to
(DOC) o with me linking libpng dynamically. The last two backtraces are actually
(???) ery similar, only resolving to different functions/libraries. They can be
(???) eliably triggered by doing a search at google. It'll crash with a segfault
(???) hen displaying the results. I'll see if i can reproduce that on gopher pages...
(???) egards,
(???) lorian
(???) acktrace #1:
(???) gdb) run
(???) tarting program: /home/floh/ebuilds/mosaic-ck/src/Mosaic
(???) arning: Cannot convert string "-*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) arning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-times-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) arning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-times-bold-r-normal-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) arning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-times-bold-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) arning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-times-bold-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) arning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) arning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-times-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
(???) rogram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(TXT) x00000000 in ?? ()
(???) gdb) backtrace
(???) 0 0x00000000 in ?? ()
(???) 1 0x0fa7814c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 2 0x0fa5fff8 in png_create_info_struct () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 3 0x1005bfec in ReadPNG (infile=Cannot access memory at address 0x3f8
(???) at readPNG.c:162
(???) acktrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)
(???) acktrace #2:
(???) rogram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(TXT) x0f8075b4 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
(???) gdb) backtrace
(???) 0 0x0f8075b4 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
(???) 1 0x0fa77df8 in png_free_default () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 2 0x0fa77e68 in png_free () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 3 0x0fa61400 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 4 0x0fa64b40 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 5 0x0fa6e7c0 in png_read_info () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 6 0x1005c010 in ReadPNG (infile=0x10396790, width=0xbfffd110, height=0xbfffd114, colrs=0xbfffd518) at readPNG.c:168
(???) 7 0x1004d9bc in ReadBitmap (datafile=0x102b7280 "/tmp/fileMSyJk6", w=0xbfffd110, h=0xbfffd114, colrs=0xbfffd518, bg=0xbfffe118)
(???) at picread.c:690
(???) 8 0x1004a9cc in ImageResolve (w=0x1028ead0, src=0x10394488 "http://www.google.de/images/srpr/nav_logo25.png", noload=0, wid=0x0, hei=0x0)
(???) at img.c:588
(???) 9 0x1004b870 in DelayedImageResolve (w=0x1028ead0, src=0x1038c780 "/images/srpr/nav_logo25.png") at img.c:872
(???) 10 0x100ae340 in HandleAClick (hw=0x1028ead0, eptr=0x102b8840, event=0x0) at HTML.c:4272
(???) 11 0x100b3ef0 in HTMLLoadNextDelayedImage (hw=0x1028ead0) at HTML.c:7210
(???) 12 0x1002d84c in mo_start_async_loads (mwin=0x102622f8, id=0x0) at gui-documents.c:139
(???) 13 0x1002edc0 in mo_do_window_text (win=0x102622f8, url=0x102ae280 "http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test",
(???) txt=0x102bbaa8 "<!doctype html><head><title>test - Google-Suche</title><script>window.google={kEI:\"okzdTL3kEoj0sgbC_J2BDA\",kEXPI:\"25907,26711,27404,27545\",kCSI:{e:\"25907,26711,27404,27545\",ei:\"okzdTL3kEoj0sgbC_J2BDA\""...,
(???) txthead=0x102bbaa8 "<!doctype html><head><title>test - Google-Suche</title><script>window.google={kEI:\"okzdTL3kEoj0sgbC_J2BDA\",kEXPI:\"25907,26711,27404,27545\",kCSI:{e:\"25907,26711,27404,27545\",ei:\"okzdTL3kEoj0sgbC_J2BDA\""..., register_visit=2, ref=0x0, last_modified=0x0,
(???) expires=0x102a8560 ": -1") at gui-documents.c:622
(???) 14 0x1002f950 in mo_load_window_text (win=0x102622f8, url=0x102ae280 "http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test",
(???) ref=0x0) at gui-documents.c:1072
(???) 15 0x1002ffe0 in mo_access_document (win=0x102622f8, url=0x102cfdf8 "/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test") at gui-documents.c:1350
(???) 16 0x10008508 in submit_form_callback (w=0x1028ead0, client_data=0x10000, call_data=0xbfffe3c4) at gui.c:1408
(???) 17 0x0fc6a974 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 18 0x100cdeb4 in CBSubmitForm (w=0x102ac9a8, client_data=0x102ac730 "\020(\352\320\020+p\210", call_data=0xbfffe478 "") at HTMLwidgets.c:691
(???) 19 0x100cea0c in CBActivateField (w=0x102ac9a8, client_data=0x102ac730 "\020(\352\320\020+p\210", call_data=0xbfffe478 "")
(???) at HTMLwidgets.c:1110
(???) 20 0x0fc6a974 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 21 0x0fe402a0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXm.so.4
(???) 22 0x0fca7b00 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 23 0x0fca7ef8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 24 0x0fca84d0 in _XtTranslateEvent () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 25 0x0fc7aa58 in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 26 0x0fc7b08c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 27 0x0fc79fa0 in XtDispatchEvent () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 28 0x0fc7a06c in XtAppMainLoop () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 29 0x1001298c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4798
(???) 30 0x10005a30 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at main.c:251
(???) gdb)
(???) acktrace #3:
(???) rogram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(TXT) x0fa61334 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
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(???) 0 0x0fa61334 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 1 0x0fa61328 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 2 0x0fa64b40 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 3 0x0fa6e7c0 in png_read_info () from /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14
(???) 4 0x1005c010 in ReadPNG (infile=0x103957b0, width=0xbfffd110, height=0xbfffd114, colrs=0xbfffd518) at readPNG.c:168
(???) 5 0x1004d9bc in ReadBitmap (datafile=0x103a84b0 "/tmp/fileVXANUe", w=0xbfffd110, h=0xbfffd114, colrs=0xbfffd518, bg=0xbfffe118)
(???) at picread.c:690
(???) 6 0x1004a9cc in ImageResolve (w=0x1028eab0, src=0x10393470 "http://www.google.de/images/srpr/nav_logo25.png", noload=0, wid=0x0, hei=0x0)
(???) at img.c:588
(???) 7 0x1004b870 in DelayedImageResolve (w=0x1028eab0, src=0x1038b5b0 "/images/srpr/nav_logo25.png") at img.c:872
(???) 8 0x100ae340 in HandleAClick (hw=0x1028eab0, eptr=0x102b8958, event=0x0) at HTML.c:4272
(???) 9 0x100b3ef0 in HTMLLoadNextDelayedImage (hw=0x1028eab0) at HTML.c:7210
(???) 10 0x1002d84c in mo_start_async_loads (mwin=0x102622f8, id=0x0) at gui-documents.c:139
(???) 11 0x1002edc0 in mo_do_window_text (win=0x102622f8, url=0x102d0ad8 "http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test",
(???) txt=0x102bbbc0 "<!doctype html><head><title>test - Google-Suche</title><script>window.google={kEI:\"pU3dTMiZCszAswa-5bXDCw\",kEXPI:\"26711,27404,27566\",kCSI:{e:\"26711,27404,27566\",ei:\"pU3dTMiZCszAswa-5bXDCw\",expi:\"26711"...,
(???) txthead=0x102bbbc0 "<!doctype html><head><title>test - Google-Suche</title><script>window.google={kEI:\"pU3dTMiZCszAswa-5bXDCw\",kEXPI:\"26711,27404,27566\",kCSI:{e:\"26711,27404,27566\",ei:\"pU3dTMiZCszAswa-5bXDCw\",expi:\"26711"..., register_visit=2, ref=0x0, last_modified=0x0,
(???) expires=0x102ae0d0 ": -1") at gui-documents.c:622
(???) 12 0x1002f950 in mo_load_window_text (win=0x102622f8, url=0x102d0ad8 "http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test",
(???) ref=0x0) at gui-documents.c:1072
(???) 13 0x1002ffe0 in mo_access_document (win=0x102622f8, url=0x102cff10 "/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test") at gui-documents.c:1350
(???) 14 0x10008508 in submit_form_callback (w=0x1028eab0, client_data=0x10000, call_data=0xbfffe3c4) at gui.c:1408
(???) 15 0x0fc6a974 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 16 0x100cdeb4 in CBSubmitForm (w=0x102aca00, client_data=0x102ac7a8 "\020(\352\260\020+q\240", call_data=0xbfffe478 "") at HTMLwidgets.c:691
(???) 17 0x100cea0c in CBActivateField (w=0x102aca00, client_data=0x102ac7a8 "\020(\352\260\020+q\240", call_data=0xbfffe478 "")
(???) at HTMLwidgets.c:1110
(???) 18 0x0fc6a974 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 19 0x0fe402a0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXm.so.4
(???) 20 0x0fca7b00 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 21 0x0fca7ef8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 22 0x0fca84d0 in _XtTranslateEvent () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 23 0x0fc7aa58 in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 24 0x0fc7b08c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 25 0x0fc79fa0 in XtDispatchEvent () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 26 0x0fc7a06c in XtAppMainLoop () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 27 0x1001298c in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4798
(???) 28 0x10005a30 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at main.c:251
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(IMG) f you link Mosaic statically against libpng.a, does that fix the problem?
(TN3) hat at least gives me an idea where to look.
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(???) ameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) If you link Mosaic statically against libpng.a, does that fix the
(???) problem? That at least gives me an idea where to look.
(???)
(???) mm, not quite. Had to fiddle around some in order to make it compile
(???) t all:
(???) changed prefs.c according to your last mail
(???) changed readPNG.c to call png_create_info_struct instead of
(???) png_info_init in line 162
(???) s it seems, png_info_init() has been removed from libpng-1.4.3, at
(???) east i've seen it only inside a comment.
(???) acktrace attached...
(???) egards,
(???) lorian
(???) rogram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
(TXT) x100fa8ec in png_set_text_2 ()
(???) gdb) backtrace
(???) 0 0x100fa8ec in png_set_text_2 ()
(???) 1 0x100f71c4 in png_handle_iTXt ()
(???) 2 0x100ede68 in png_read_info ()
(???) 3 0x1005e370 in ReadPNG (infile=0x103b03e0, width=0xbfffd110, height=0xbfffd114, colrs=0xbfffd518) at readPNG.c:168
(???) 4 0x1004fd1c in ReadBitmap (datafile=0x103ade40 "/tmp/fileyz14wE", w=0xbfffd110, h=0xbfffd114, colrs=0xbfffd518, bg=0xbfffe118)
(???) at picread.c:690
(???) 5 0x1004cd2c in ImageResolve (w=0x102a9f78, src=0x103ae068 "http://www.google.de/images/srpr/nav_logo25.png", noload=0, wid=0x0, hei=0x0)
(???) at img.c:588
(???) 6 0x1004dbd0 in DelayedImageResolve (w=0x102a9f78, src=0x102e3f68 "/images/srpr/nav_logo25.png") at img.c:872
(???) 7 0x100b06a0 in HandleAClick (hw=0x102a9f78, eptr=0x102d4100, event=0x0) at HTML.c:4272
(???) 8 0x100b6250 in HTMLLoadNextDelayedImage (hw=0x102a9f78) at HTML.c:7210
(???) 9 0x1002fbac in mo_start_async_loads (mwin=0x1027d878, id=0x0) at gui-documents.c:139
(???) 10 0x10031120 in mo_do_window_text (win=0x1027d878, url=0x102eb838 "http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test",
(???) txt=0x102d52f0 "<!doctype html><head><title>test - Google-Suche</title><script>window.google={kEI:\"hqjdTLenJIL6sgazx7GCDA\",kEXPI:\"25907,26711,27404,27547\",kCSI:{e:\"25907,26711,27404,27547\",ei:\"hqjdTLenJIL6sgazx7GCDA\""...,
(???) txthead=0x102d52f0 "<!doctype html><head><title>test - Google-Suche</title><script>window.google={kEI:\"hqjdTLenJIL6sgazx7GCDA\",kEXPI:\"25907,26711,27404,27547\",kCSI:{e:\"25907,26711,27404,27547\",ei:\"hqjdTLenJIL6sgazx7GCDA\""..., register_visit=2, ref=0x0, last_modified=0x0,
(???) expires=0x102eba38 ": -1") at gui-documents.c:622
(???) 11 0x10031cb0 in mo_load_window_text (win=0x1027d878, url=0x102eb838 "http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test",
(???) ref=0x0) at gui-documents.c:1072
(???) 12 0x10032340 in mo_access_document (win=0x1027d878, url=0x102eb6f0 "/search?hl=de&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=test") at gui-documents.c:1350
(???) 13 0x1000a868 in submit_form_callback (w=0x102a9f78, client_data=0x10000, call_data=0xbfffe3c4) at gui.c:1408
(???) 14 0x0fc6a974 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 15 0x100d0214 in CBSubmitForm (w=0x102c82b0, client_data=0x102c8058 "\020*\237x\020-)H", call_data=0xbfffe478 "") at HTMLwidgets.c:691
(???) 16 0x100d0d6c in CBActivateField (w=0x102c82b0, client_data=0x102c8058 "\020*\237x\020-)H", call_data=0xbfffe478 "") at HTMLwidgets.c:1110
(???) 17 0x0fc6a974 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 18 0x0fe402a0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXm.so.4
(???) 19 0x0fca7b00 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 20 0x0fca7ef8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 21 0x0fca84d0 in _XtTranslateEvent () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 22 0x0fc7aa58 in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 23 0x0fc7b08c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 24 0x0fc79fa0 in XtDispatchEvent () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 25 0x0fc7a06c in XtAppMainLoop () from /usr/lib/libXt.so.6
(???) 26 0x10014cec in mo_do_gui (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14) at gui.c:4798
(???) 27 0x10007d90 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfffef14, envp=0xbfffef1c) at main.c:251
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(???) ust for a little extra mailing list traffic and to promote new Gopher nerds,
(???) ould people enjoy or object to me posting new gopher servers here too as
(???) hey are sent to me for Veronica?
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(???) ameron--
(???) o for it!
(???) h yeah, and since we're on the topic of promotion, here's the
(SND) emi-demi-annual reminder about the IRC #gopherproject channel on
(???) reenode! Alive and well...stop by and visit.
(???) --Brian
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(???) Oh yeah, and since we're on the topic of promotion, here's the
(???) semi-demi-annual reminder about the IRC #gopherproject channel on
(???) freenode! Alive and well...stop by and visit.
(IMG) should get my IRC client working again and drop in.
(???) eanwhile, today's new gopher site:
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(???) > If you link Mosaic statically against libpng.a, does that fix the
(???) > problem? That at least gives me an idea where to look.
(???) >
(???)
(???) Umm, not quite. Had to fiddle around some in order to make it compile
(???) at all:
(???) * changed prefs.c according to your last mail
(???) * changed readPNG.c to call png_create_info_struct instead of
(???) png_info_init in line 162
(???)
(???) as it seems, png_info_init() has been removed from libpng-1.4.3, at
(???) least i've seen it only inside a comment.
(???) HA. I didn't notice the version of libpng you were using. Does using 1.2.44
(???) ix it? I'll get around to making it compatible with 1.4.x but I just want
(???) o make sure that's the only issue.
(???) -
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(IMG) didn't know about that IRC channel. Nice!
(PHO) 010/11/15 Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) > Oh yeah, and since we're on the topic of promotion, here's the
(???) > semi-demi-annual reminder about the IRC #gopherproject channel on
(???) > freenode! Alive and well...stop by and visit.
(???)
(???) I should get my IRC client working again and drop in.
(???)
(???) Meanwhile, today's new gopher site:
(???)
(???) gopher://lottalinuxlinks.com/1
(???)
(???) --
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(???) ckaiser@floodgap.com
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(IMG) didn't know about that IRC channel. Nice!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
(???) uote">2010/11/15 Cameron Kaiser <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sp=
(???) ctre@floodgap.com">spectre@floodgap.com</a>></span><br><blockquote clas=
(SND) =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px soli=
(DOC) rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
(???) div class=3D"im">> Oh yeah, and since we're on the topic of promoti=
(???) n, here's the<br>
(???) gt; semi-demi-annual reminder about the IRC #gopherproject channel on<br>
(???) gt; freenode! =A0 Alive and well...stop by and visit.<br>
(???) br>
(???) /div>I should get my IRC client working again and drop in.<br>
(???) br>
(???) eanwhile, today's new gopher site:<br>
(???) br>
(???) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gopher://<a href=3D"http://lottalinuxlinks.com/1" target=3D=
(???) _blank">lottalinuxlinks.com/1</a><br>
(???) div class=3D"im"><br>
(???) -<br>
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: <a href=3D"http://www.camero=
(???) kaiser.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.cameronkaiser.com/</a> --<br>
(???) =A0Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * <a href=3D"http://www.floodgap.com"=
(???) target=3D"_blank">www.floodgap.com</a> * <a href=3D"mailto:ckaiser@floodga=
(PNG) .com">ckaiser@floodgap.com</a><br>
(???) /div>-- Too much of a good thing is wonderful. -- Mae West ---------------=
(???) ---------<br>
(???) div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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(???) ameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> writes:
(???) Just for a little extra mailing list traffic and to promote new Gopher nerds,
(???) would people enjoy or object to me posting new gopher servers here too as
(???) they are sent to me for Veronica?
(IMG) 'd enjoy it. It shows me gopher is growing, and gives me something to
(???) xplore :-)
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] Dynamically linked Mosaic on Linux??
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(???) n Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:42:07 -0800 (PST)
(???) ameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote:
(???) > > If you link Mosaic statically against libpng.a, does that fix the
(???) > > problem? That at least gives me an idea where to look.
(???) > >
(???) >
(???) > Umm, not quite. Had to fiddle around some in order to make it
(???) > compile at all:
(???) > * changed prefs.c according to your last mail
(???) > * changed readPNG.c to call png_create_info_struct instead of
(???) > png_info_init in line 162
(???) >
(???) > as it seems, png_info_init() has been removed from libpng-1.4.3, at
(???) > least i've seen it only inside a comment.
(???)
(???) AHA. I didn't notice the version of libpng you were using. Does using
(???) 1.2.44 fix it? I'll get around to making it compatible with 1.4.x but
(???) I just want to make sure that's the only issue.
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) pparently, it doesn't crash when hitting google result pages now.
(IMG) t seems that even though i specifically put the full path to
(???) ibpng12.a into the Makefile, Mosaic seems to be linked dynamically
(???) gainst libpng.so.12 . To be more precise, Mosaic seems to be fully
(DOC) ynamically linked. I wont complain about that ;-)
(???) est regards,
(???) lorian
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(???) ello
(???) n Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:23:10PM -0800, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) Just for a little extra mailing list traffic and to promote new Gopher nerds,
(???) would people enjoy or object to me posting new gopher servers here too as
(???) they are sent to me for Veronica?
(???)
(IMG) would not object. Depending on how often you receive them, perhaps
(???) ou could send a digest.
(???) enjamin Newman
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(???) I would not object. Depending on how often you receive them, perhaps
(???) you could send a digest.
(???) adly not all that frequently, on average around once a week. Though when
(???) he Android client was making the rounds, I got several reports.
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(???) ubject: [gopher] A free (as in gratis) offer to the gopher community
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(???) hort version:
(IMG) am a long-time participant in the OpenNIC project (an open, free, and
(DOC) emocratic alternative to ICANN), as well as a long-time member of the
(GIF) opher community. I have set up a .gopher top-level domain (TLD) in
(???) he OpenNIC root for the purpose of providing gopher sites with
(???) nique domains accessible to anyone who can resolve OpenNIC domains.
(TN3) his is a free (as in gratis) offer; I expect nothing in return.
(???) penNIC is one of several F/OSS projects I work on in my spare time; I
(???) m simply offering this service to the gopher community as a token of
(???) y gratitude to those who keep the gopher protocol alive and well.
(???) ou can register one or more .gopher domains at
(HTM) ttp://register.gopher. This is accessible to anyone who can resolve
(???) penNIC domains. For instructions on setting up your DNS settings to
(???) esolve OpenNIC domains (ICANN domains remain accessible as well), or
(???) or a listing of OpenNIC nameservers, please visit
(HTM) ttp://www.opennicproject.org.
(???) ong version:
(???) penNIC is an open, free, and democratic alternative to ICANN that was
(???) ounded by Robin Bandy nearly 10 years ago[1]. I've been involved with
(???) penNIC for about that long, and was instrumental in its revival a few
(???) ears ago. I help maintain the OpenNIC infrastructure and various
nformational websites, as well as serve as moderator on the #opennic
(???) Freenode) IRC channel.
(???) ne of our goals is to establish OpenNIC as a non-profit organization
(SND) o that we can have a legal standing when it comes to dealing with DNS
(PNG) olicy and issues. We have several nameservers, all run by
(???) olunteers, that span the globe[2]. In addition to OpenNIC domains,
(???) e also peer all ICANN domains as well as a few TLDs from alternative
(???) oots that are still in existence.
(IMG) 've also been a member of the gopher community since the days of
(???) AIS, Archie and Veronica. While not as active as in other pursuits,
(IMG) do maintain an active gopher server and proxy (the first wiki-based
(PNG) roxy of which I'm aware)[3].
(???) s a nod of appreciation towards the gopher community for keeping
(GIF) opher alive, I proposed to the OpenNIC membership the establishment
(???) f the .gopher TLD, focused on showcasing sites that deliver content
(???) ia the gopher protocol. The .gopher charter was ratified by the
(???) penNIC membership in 2008[4].
(IMG) have finally gotten around to putting online an automated process to
(???) egister .gopher domains[5]. This is totally a volunteer effort on my
(PNG) art, and I expect no remuneration, now or in the future. I am simply
(PNG) roviding this service to the gopher community in the same spirit as
(SND) o many of us provide the world with access to gopher sites. There
(???) re no strings. If you agree with the charter, you can register as
(???) any .gopher TLDs and/or domains as you wish. I provide the interface
(???) or maintaining your DNS records. Work on this interface is ongoing,
(???) ut it's functional. Any DNS records that can't be handled by the
nteface I will be glad to process manually.
(TN3) he URL to access the .gopher registration site is
(HTM) ttp://register.gopher (the software that runs the site is GPL, and
(???) ll content is covered by the CC-BY-SA license). Yes, it's only
(???) ccessible via an OpenNIC nameserver. Presumably, if you are
nterested in a .gopher domain, you are going to need to be able to
(???) esolve the .gopher TLD. So consider setting up your DNS settings[6]
(???) o access OpenNIC as part of the registration process :)
(???) y goal is simple: I'd like to expose the gopher community to a wider
(???) udience via the OpenNIC community. You all who are involved in F/OSS
(PNG) rojects will understand that there doesn't need to be an ulterior
(???) otive for the things we do. We do this kind of thing because we
(???) njoy it.
(???) eel free to e-mail me offline if you have questions or issues. I
(???) lso hang out on the #gopherproject and #opennic channels on Freenode
n the (U.S.) evenings, nick is brianko.
(???) --Brian
(???) 1] http://wiki.opennic.glue/files/OpenNIC/K5%20An%20Immodest%20DNS%20Proposal.html
(???) 2] http://wiki.opennicproject.org/Tier2
(???) 3] http://www.pongonova.org/gopherwiki/HomePage
(???) 4] http://wiki.opennicproject.org/GopherCharter
(???) 5] http://register.gopher
(???) 6] http://www.opennicproject.org/index.php/start-here/51-migrate-to-opennic
(???) -
(???) on't have gopher? Visit the world's first wiki-based gopher proxy!
(HTM) ttp://www.pongonova.org/gopherwiki
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(???) n 2010-11-26 01:03, Brian Koontz wrote:
(???) I am a long-time participant in the OpenNIC project (an open, free, and
(???) democratic alternative to ICANN)
(???) mall world... I used to run a couple of OpenNIC Tier-2's for years....
(???) inally quit because a) root expired a couple of times (duh!) and b) the
(???) hole project seemed dead.
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(???) n Friday 26 November 2010 00:03:02 Brian Koontz wrote:
(???) Short version:
(???)
(???) I am a long-time participant in the OpenNIC project (an open, free,
(???) and democratic alternative to ICANN), as well as a long-time member
(???) of the gopher community. I have set up a .gopher top-level domain
(???) (TLD) in the OpenNIC root for the purpose of providing gopher sites
(???) with unique domains accessible to anyone who can resolve OpenNIC
(???) domains. This is a free (as in gratis) offer; I expect nothing in
(???) return. OpenNIC is one of several F/OSS projects I work on in my
(???) spare time; I am simply offering this service to the gopher community
(???) as a token of my gratitude to those who keep the gopher protocol
(???) alive and well.
(IMG) love the idea of OpenNIC, but it doesn't seem very... stable.
(???) cat /etc/resolv.conf
(SND) earch llalala
(???) ameserver 66.244.95.20 #Brian's server
(???) ameserver 217.79.186.148
(???) ookup file bind
(???) ust to show that it works:
(???) ping opennic.glue
(???) ING opennic.glue (75.127.96.89): 56 data bytes
(UUE) 4 bytes from 75.127.96.89: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=161.372 ms
(UUE) 4 bytes from 75.127.96.89: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=161.250 ms
(???) ut the Tier 2 Submission Form:
(???) ping reg.opennic.glue
(PNG) ing: unknown host: reg.opennic.glue
(???) nd reg.for.free (I wanted a .geek name) gives me:
(???) arning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Lost connection to
(???) ySQL server at 'reading authorization packet', system error: 0
n /var/www/clients/client5/web6/web/index.php on line 40
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(???) n Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 02:51:39PM +0100, Cato Auestad wrote:
(???) I love the idea of OpenNIC, but it doesn't seem very... stable.
(???) ince this is rather off-topic for the gopher list, I'm replying to
(???) ou offline (but feel free to share the contents of my response with
(???) homever you please).
(???) --Brian
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(???) or those (like Kim) suffering now that Fennec is e10s-based and OverbiteFF
s not yet "mobilized," this is the bug for enabling custom protocols
ncluding gopher:// in Electrolysis Mozilla builds. Honza seems to think that
(???) verbiteFF would be easily adapted to this environment.
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