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(???) n 2010-04-30 15:52, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
(???) > http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/Full%20Gopher%20Archive%20from%202007.torrent
(???)
(???) Is anyone planning to make the files in the torrent available through
(???) http, ftp or gopher?
(IMG) 'm uploading everything into The Gopher Archive which is browseable
(???) hrough gopher.
(???) ere's the first site I imported (still has bugs and missing files):
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/7/archive.q?state.virginia.edu
(???) Kim
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(???) n 2010-04-30 18:28, Florian Teply wrote:
(???) If i understood Kim right, it might be some work to convert all the gophermap
(???) files in order to point not to the original server but to the local archive.
(???) ep, that takes some semi-manual work. It's bugging out currently so I
(???) eed to code myself around the bugs :-).
(???) Currently i'm unpacking the stuff, the archives can be found at:
(???) gopher://lime.dnsalias.net/1/archives
(???) gopher://nerd.endoftheinternet.org/1/archives
(???) and also via IPv6:
(???) gopher://gopher.home.ipv6.teply.info/1/archives
(???) LEASE set up robots.txt to prevent robots from re-archiving this stuff!
(IMG) don't want to end up with 20 copies of the 30gig archive!
(???) ut "robots.txt" in your gopher root with something like this in it:
(???) ser-agent: *
(???) isallow: /archives
(???) Kim
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(???) n 2010-04-30 22:00, John Goerzen wrote:
(???) There have been a number of people asking about hosting Gopher stuff,
(???) and wanting to make it browsable. Is there anything towards that end
(???) that can be shared with people making that offer?
(???) ere's the first site:
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/7/archive.q?state.virginia.edu
(IMG) t still has bugs (url's break, firefox bugs while lynx works etc etc)
(???) nd all of the files with a ? in the selector are missing (since I
nterpret is as the start of a query string).
(???) ut I'm working on it.
(???) Kim
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(???) n Saturday 01 May 2010 05:23:09 Kim Holviala wrote:
(???) On 2010-04-30 18:28, Florian Teply wrote:
(???) > If i understood Kim right, it might be some work to convert all the
(???) > gophermap files in order to point not to the original server but to the
(???) > local archive.
(???) =20
(???) Yep, that takes some semi-manual work. It's bugging out currently so I
(???) need to code myself around the bugs :-).
(???) =20
(???) 46rom what i've seen yesterday before i turned off the computer, there are=
(???) 't=20
(???) hat many gophermap files anyways.
(???) ight now i'm serving the directory tree as-is.
(???) > Currently i'm unpacking the stuff, the archives can be found at:
(???) > gopher://lime.dnsalias.net/1/archives
(???) > gopher://nerd.endoftheinternet.org/1/archives
(???) > and also via IPv6:
(???) > gopher://gopher.home.ipv6.teply.info/1/archives
(???) =20
(???) PLEASE set up robots.txt to prevent robots from re-archiving this stuff!
(???) I don't want to end up with 20 copies of the 30gig archive!
(???) =20
(???) Put "robots.txt" in your gopher root with something like this in it:
(???) =20
(???) User-agent: *
(???) Disallow: /archives
(???) =20
(???) X] Done!
(???) nd thanks for the reminder, i would have forgotten about that one=20
(???) therwise...
(???) reetings,
(???) 46lorian
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(???) lorian Teply <usenet@teply.info> writes:
(???) On Friday 30 April 2010 14:52:05 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
(???) > John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> writes:
(???) > > To date, I'm seeing about 13 peers downloading the torrent. 32% of it
(???) > > has been seeded and I hope that we'll hit 100% within 12-20 hours.
(???) > >
(???) > > As a reminder for anyone that wants to download this archive, the
(???) > > torrent is at:
(???) > >
(???) > > http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/Full%20Gopher%20Archive%20from%202007.t
(???) > >orrent
(???) >
(???) > Is anyone planning to make the files in the torrent available through
(???) > http, ftp or gopher?
(???) >
(???) Hmm, what way of making the files available do you mean? serving the .tar.bz2
(???) files and stuff just as it is in the torrent, or the unpacked data?
(???) erving the .tar.bz2. As this computer is not configured for bittorrent
(???) et (firewalling, (drop) priviledges, etc), I was looking for another
(???) ay to get the files, until I have time to configure this for bt.
(???) ...]
(???) going to be. But as i recall from some previous post, some guys would be
(???) willing to host the stuff. That also includes me.
(???)
(???) Currently i'm unpacking the stuff, the archives can be found at:
(???) gopher://lime.dnsalias.net/1/archives
(???) gopher://nerd.endoftheinternet.org/1/archives
(???) and also via IPv6:
(???) gopher://gopher.home.ipv6.teply.info/1/archives
(TN3) hanks! I'll visit those soon.
(???) If I download gigabytes from your server is it okay to rely on TCP for
(???) andwidth control, or do you want me to do it slower? (And I wonder how
(???) ould that be done - snarf has no documented option for that.))
(???) bout mpm_gopher.mov, I got a 154 MiB copy of it from a FTP server,
(???) hich seems to be shorter than announced by the QuickTime container. A
(???) ad copy, I presume?
(???) -
(???) uno J. Silva
(GIF) opher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg
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(IMG) got everything sorted out so now I'm quite easily able to import the
(PHO) 007 archive into mine.
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/1/archive.q?hal3000.cx
(???) nfortunately the /Begin_Here/ pages which are also linked from the
(???) ikipedia page about gopher weren't in the archive....
(???) Kim
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(???) n Saturday 01 May 2010 23:33:32 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
(???) Florian Teply <usenet@teply.info> writes:
(???) > On Friday 30 April 2010 14:52:05 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
(???) >> John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> writes:
(???) >> > To date, I'm seeing about 13 peers downloading the torrent. 32% of =
t
(???) >> > has been seeded and I hope that we'll hit 100% within 12-20 hours.
(???) >> >
(???) >> > As a reminder for anyone that wants to download this archive, the
(???) >> > torrent is at:
(???) >> >
(???) >> > http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/Full%20Gopher%20Archive%20from%202=
(TXT) 0
(???) >> >7.t orrent
(???) >>
(???) >> Is anyone planning to make the files in the torrent available through
(???) >> http, ftp or gopher?
(???) >
(???) > Hmm, what way of making the files available do you mean? serving the
(???) > .tar.bz2 files and stuff just as it is in the torrent, or the unpacked
(???) > data?
(???) =20
(???) Serving the .tar.bz2. As this computer is not configured for bittorrent
(???) yet (firewalling, (drop) priviledges, etc), I was looking for another
(???) way to get the files, until I have time to configure this for bt.
(???) =20
(???) h, okay. Have both of it up anyways somehow.
(???) [...]
(???) =20
(???) > going to be. But as i recall from some previous post, some guys would be
(???) > willing to host the stuff. That also includes me.
(???) >
(???) > Currently i'm unpacking the stuff, the archives can be found at:
(???) > gopher://lime.dnsalias.net/1/archives
(???) > gopher://nerd.endoftheinternet.org/1/archives
(???) > and also via IPv6:
(???) > gopher://gopher.home.ipv6.teply.info/1/archives
(???) =20
(???) Thanks! I'll visit those soon.
(???) =20
(???) (If I download gigabytes from your server is it okay to rely on TCP for
(???) bandwidth control, or do you want me to do it slower? (And I wonder how
(???) would that be done - snarf has no documented option for that.))
(???) =20
(???) =20
(IMG) don't mind. It probably won't go beyond say 70KB/s though, and with a=20
(DOC) isconnect every 24 hours. So downloading the large tar.bz2 will probably b=
(???) a=20
(???) oyal PITA as it won't finish before my DSL provider disconnects. Right now=
(???) 20
'm moving at least the smaller quux.org mirror to a server with better=20
(???) onnection but due to size constraints i can't put up the large one there.
(???) nyone knows of some download manager for gopher?
(IMG) 'm cleaning up the archive right now as there are plenty of empty=20
(DOC) irectories, maybe i can tar it up again into smaller parts...
(???) =20
(???) About mpm_gopher.mov, I got a 154 MiB copy of it from a FTP server,
(???) which seems to be shorter than announced by the QuickTime container. A
(???) bad copy, I presume?
(???) =20
(???) ery probably. The copy i have here is 404 MiB. Feel free to grab it...
(???) TH,
(???) 46lorian
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(???) ubject: Re: [gopher] The archived copy of Hal3000.cx is now up and running
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(???) t gopher://gophernicus.org/1/archive.q?hal3000.cx:70/1,99808e0eb66fd016ae431be535d8b81d
(???) hen I try to download
(GIF) opher://hal3000.cx/9/Software/DOS/Games/phylox/phylox.ZIP
(IMG) just get:
(???) ailed to Connect
(TN3) he connection was refused when attempting to contact hal3000.cx.
(???) --
(???) /Alex
(???) n Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com> wrote:
(???)
(???) I got everything sorted out so now I'm quite easily able to import the 2007
(???) archive into mine.
(???)
(???) gopher://gophernicus.org/1/archive.q?hal3000.cx
(???)
(???) Unfortunately the /Begin_Here/ pages which are also linked from the
(???) Wikipedia page about gopher weren't in the archive....
(???)
(???)
(???)
(???) - Kim
(???)
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(???) n 2010-05-02 21:26, Alex Nordlund wrote:
(???) at gopher://gophernicus.org/1/archive.q?hal3000.cx:70/1,99808e0eb66fd016ae431be535d8b81d
(???) when I try to download
(???) gopher://hal3000.cx/9/Software/DOS/Games/phylox/phylox.ZIP
(???) I just get:
(???)
(???) Failed to Connect
(???) The connection was refused when attempting to contact hal3000.cx.
(IMG) don't archive binaries, and when something isn't in the archive the
(???) equest gets redirected to the original server....
(???) .. which is dead.
(???) uestion is, should I start archiving binaries too? Pros? Cons? Like I
(SND) aid before, I wasn't going to archive anything, I was just doing a
(SND) earch engine - and search engines don't index binaries.
(???) nd yes, the URLs look ugly - the md5sum in the url was just a temporary
(???) ix...
(???) Kim
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(???) n Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Kim Holviala <kim@holviala.com> wrote:
(???) On 2010-05-02 21:26, Alex Nordlund wrote:
(???)
(???) I don't archive binaries, and when something isn't in the archive the
(???) request gets redirected to the original server....
(???)
(???) ... which is dead.
(???) hy do you keep a link to it then?
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(???) n 2010-05-02 21:46, Alex Nordlund wrote:
(???) > I don't archive binaries, and when something isn't in the archive the
(???) > request gets redirected to the original server....
(???) >
(???) > ... which is dead.
(???)
(???) Why do you keep a link to it then?
(???) ecause I'm archiving live sites too and then those links work.
(???) h, and I'm open to suggestions if you guys have suggestions...
(???) Kim
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(???) n the Sat, May 01, 2010 at 06:23:09AM +0300, Kim Holviala blubbered:
(???) i.
(???) PLEASE set up robots.txt to prevent robots from re-archiving this stuff!
(???) I don't want to end up with 20 copies of the 30gig archive!
(???)
(???) Put "robots.txt" in your gopher root with something like this in it:
(???)
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(???) Disallow: /archives
(???) oes this really work for gopherspace?
(???) esides, are there any popular search engines that index
(GIF) opherspace? Google[1] does not, neither does Bing.
(???) U, Venty
(???) 1] I once made a joke to a Google engineer about when "Google
(???) opher" would launch. He looked kind of puzzled...
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(???) artin Ebnoether <ventilator@semmel.ch> writes:
(???) On the Sat, May 01, 2010 at 06:23:09AM +0300, Kim Holviala blubbered:
(???)
(???) Hi.
(???)
(???) > PLEASE set up robots.txt to prevent robots from re-archiving this stuff!
(???) > I don't want to end up with 20 copies of the 30gig archive!
(???) >
(???) > Put "robots.txt" in your gopher root with something like this in it:
(???) >
(???) > User-agent: *
(???) > Disallow: /archives
(???)
(???) Does this really work for gopherspace?
(IMG) t's up to the spider itself - Kim's one looks for it.
(IMG) dunno if the robots.txt convention was made just for web or if other
(PNG) rotocols were being considered too, but that won't prevent a spider
(???) rom using a robots.txt found in a gopherspace :-)
(???) Besides, are there any popular search engines that index
(???) gopherspace? Google[1] does not, neither does Bing.
(???) o, but we have Veronica Lodge and others!
(???) [1] I once made a joke to a Google engineer about when "Google
(???) Gopher" would launch. He looked kind of puzzled...
(???) puzzled" as in "he is working at google and does not know what gopher
s" or as in "our business is the web, only if you encapsulate gopher
(???) ver http will we spider it"?
(???) -
(???) uno J. Silva
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(???) n 3.5.2010 14:19, Martin Ebnoether wrote:
(???) > PLEASE set up robots.txt to prevent robots from re-archiving this stuff!
(???) > I don't want to end up with 20 copies of the 30gig archive!
(???) >
(???) > Put "robots.txt" in your gopher root with something like this in it:
(???) >
(???) > User-agent: *
(???) > Disallow: /archives
(???)
(???) Does this really work for gopherspace?
(???) up.
(???) Besides, are there any popular search engines that index
(???) gopherspace? Google[1] does not, neither does Bing.
(???) opular... *cough*, Veronica-2 is pretty popular and it respects
(???) obots.txt.
(IMG) 'm building my search engine which will be have much broader scope but
t's not finished yet. Crawler works, and I have crawled through maybe
(ARC) 0% of the gopherspace, but the indexer and search are still works in
(PNG) rogress.
(???) Kim
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(???) n the Mon, May 03, 2010 at 01:05:13PM +0100, Nuno J. Silva blubbered:
(???) oi.
(???) >> Put "robots.txt" in your gopher root with something like this in it:
(???) > Does this really work for gopherspace?
(???) I dunno if the robots.txt convention was made just for web or if other
(???) protocols were being considered too, but that won't prevent a spider
(???) from using a robots.txt found in a gopherspace :-)
(???) :-) I see.
(???) > [1] I once made a joke to a Google engineer about when "Google
(???) > Gopher" would launch. He looked kind of puzzled...
(???)
(???) "puzzled" as in "he is working at google and does not know what gopher
(???) is" or as in "our business is the web, only if you encapsulate gopher
(???) over http will we spider it"?
(???) ell, he asked me if gopher still exist. I then pointed him to
(???) y own gopher server (gopher.semmel.ch) and of course to
(GIF) opher.floodgap.com and told him that gopherspace is still
(???) live.
(???) U, Venty
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(???) ie immer von 19:00 bis 20:00 Uhr auf Radio LoRa in Zuerich.
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(???) n Mon, 3 May 2010, Martin Ebnoether wrote:
(???) Does this really work for gopherspace?
(???) Besides, are there any popular search engines that index
(???) gopherspace? Google[1] does not, neither does Bing.
(???) hey do indirectly through the http to gopher proxies, Before I stopped
(HTM) aving mailing lists on my gopher, one could find email address and such
(???) rom those lists through google, it had index it through a proxy as the
(???) inks it provied was running though one of those.
(???) egards
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(???) eported to me on Twitter:
(???) *atan2> @ttytter A bit off-topic, but @LGnome made a Gopher URL shortener and I thought you might be professionally interested: gopher://p70.us/
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(???) i folks,
(???) fter the Gopher archive torrent was posted (incidentally, there are
(SND) till seeds and peers for it even now), I got emails from maybe a dozen
(PNG) eople offering to host it. Most were just individuals with bandwidth
(???) o spare. Many were asking for help setting up something to serve it up
(???) ith, which unfortunately I don't have the time to provide. Is there
(???) nyone here that would be interested in following up on all the hosting
(???) ffers? I could pass them on to you if so. I know that there's already
(???) n effort to get it online, but I'd like to see it online in more than
(???) ne place/person's server.
(???) nfortunately, my efforts to find an institutional home for the archive
(HTM) ave so far struck out. No reply from archive.org and ibiblio.
(???) - John
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(???) n Monday 17 May 2010 21:20:21 John Goerzen wrote:
(???) Hi folks,
(???) =20
(???) After the Gopher archive torrent was posted (incidentally, there are
(???) still seeds and peers for it even now), I got emails from maybe a dozen
(???) people offering to host it. Most were just individuals with bandwidth
(???) to spare. Many were asking for help setting up something to serve it up
(???) with, which unfortunately I don't have the time to provide. Is there
(???) anyone here that would be interested in following up on all the hosting
(???) offers? I could pass them on to you if so. I know that there's already
(???) an effort to get it online, but I'd like to see it online in more than
(???) one place/person's server.
(???) =20
(???) ore than one place is definitely the way to go in order to preserve the=20
(SND) tuff.
(IMG) myself started (and am still somewhere midway i guess) to clean out the=20
(???) rchive. As i went through the archive, i've noticed quite some empty files=
(???) =20
(???) ost notably .gophermap an robots.txt which had the size of zero Bytes. Alo=
(???) g=20
(???) he way i also stumbled across some other files that are in my opinion bogu=
(SND) :=20
(HTM) ttp GET requests that returned a 404 error. From the mirror hosted at my h=
(???) me=20
(GIF) opher i removed all of those. Next thing i'll try to do is restoring the=20
(GIF) ophermap files where available to point to the mirror instead of the origi=
(???) al=20
(SND) erver. Could use some help there though. Any hints on that one, Kim maybe?
(???) Unfortunately, my efforts to find an institutional home for the archive
(???) have so far struck out. No reply from archive.org and ibiblio.
(???) =20
(TN3) hat sucks indeed.
(???) reets,
(???) 46lorian
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(???) n 2010-05-18 23:01, Florian Teply wrote:
(???) I myself started (and am still somewhere midway i guess) to clean out the
(???) archive. As i went through the archive, i've noticed quite some empty files,
(???) most notably .gophermap an robots.txt which had the size of zero Bytes.
(IMG) noticed the very same thing, so the first thing I did was:
(???) find archive/ -type f -size 0 -exec rm -v "{}" \;
(???) ollowed by:
(???) find archive/ -type d -exec rm -v "{}" \;
(IMG) n case you're wondering, the second removes emtpy directories only :-).
(???) the way i also stumbled across some other files that are in my opinion bogus:
(???) http GET requests that returned a 404 error.
(TN3) here are also loads of gophermaps which only contain "3Error of some kind".
(???) gopher i removed all of those. Next thing i'll try to do is restoring the
(???) gophermap files where available to point to the mirror instead of the original
(???) server. Could use some help there though. Any hints on that one, Kim maybe?
(IMG) was lazy... So I'm doing it one site at the time - one server hosts
(???) ne archived site using Gophernicus with some extra command line
(SND) witches, and a second site spiders the "live site" using the hosts-file
(???) o fix the IP address....
(???) o no, I have no real answer to that yet. I do have the full archive
(???) temporarily) here but without the original gophermaps.
(GIF) opher://gophernicus.org/1/archive_2007/gopher-arch/gopher/
(???) Kim
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(???) n 2010-05-19 08:49, Kim Holviala wrote:
(???) # find archive/ -type d -exec rm -v "{}" \;
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(???) In case you're wondering, the second removes emtpy directories only :-).
(???) nd of course that should have been rmdir and not rm.
(???) Kim
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(???) n Wednesday 19 May 2010 07:49:51 Kim Holviala wrote:
(???) On 2010-05-18 23:01, Florian Teply wrote:
(???) > I myself started (and am still somewhere midway i guess) to clean out t=
(HTM) e
(???) > archive. As i went through the archive, i've noticed quite some empty
(???) > files, most notably .gophermap an robots.txt which had the size of zero
(???) > Bytes.
(???) =20
(???) I noticed the very same thing, so the first thing I did was:
(???) =20
(???) # find archive/ -type f -size 0 -exec rm -v "{}" \;
(???) =20
(???) Followed by:
(???) =20
(???) # find archive/ -type d -exec rm -v "{}" \;
(???) =20
(???) In case you're wondering, the second removes emtpy directories only :-).
(???) =20
(IMG) basically did the same thing just a little more complicated as i used the=
(???) 20
(???) utput of find in a for loop. Had to do it several times though, as an=20
(???) therwise empty directory which has an empty directory in it doesn't count =
(???) s=20
(???) mpty.
(???) > the way i also stumbled across some other files that are in my opinion
(???) > bogus: http GET requests that returned a 404 error.
(???) =20
(???) There are also loads of gophermaps which only contain "3Error of some
(???) kind".
(???)
(???) eah, saw those too.
(???) 20
(???) > gopher i removed all of those. Next thing i'll try to do is restoring t=
(HTM) e
(???) > gophermap files where available to point to the mirror instead of the
(???) > original server. Could use some help there though. Any hints on that on=
(???) ,
(???) > Kim maybe?
(???) =20
(???) I was lazy... So I'm doing it one site at the time - one server hosts
(???) one archived site using Gophernicus with some extra command line
(???) switches, and a second site spiders the "live site" using the hosts-file
(???) to fix the IP address....
(???) =20
(???) aybe we should coordinate that a little, as i see no point in two guys doi=
(???) g=20
(???) he same grunt work twice in total...
(???) 46lorian
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