(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Sun Mar 01 10:04:09 2009
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Mozilla Add-ons: OverbiteFF Nomination (fwd)
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(???) n Friday 27 February 2009 00:23, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) Good news today -- OverbiteFF is now a public add-on. You should be able to
(???) get automatic updates now and all the good things you would expect.
(TN3) hat's cool!
(???) ..But what about Firefox 2.x users? If you ask me, I'm still using Firefox 2.0.0.20 (3.x is dramatically slow on my PC, and "clicks by itself" from time to time...).
(???) ny chance to get a 2.x compatible release?
(???) ye, ;-)
(???) ateusz
(???) --
(???) ou'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key
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(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Sun Mar 01 10:04:34 2009
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:04:34 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
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(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:55:51 -0600 (CST)
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(???) eceived: from mateusz (unknown [192.168.190.20])
(???) rom: Mateusz Viste <mateusz@viste-family.net>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Mozilla Add-ons: OverbiteFF Nomination (fwd)
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(???) n Friday 27 February 2009 00:23, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) Good news today -- OverbiteFF is now a public add-on. You should be able to
(???) get automatic updates now and all the good things you would expect.
(TN3) hat's cool!
(???) ..But what about Firefox 2.x users? If you ask me, I'm still using Firefox 2.0.0.20 (3.x is dramatically slow on my PC, and "clicks by itself" from time to time...).
(???) ny chance to get a 2.x compatible release?
(???) ye, ;-)
(???) ateusz
(???) --
(???) ou'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key
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(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 00:26:07 2009
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:26:07 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:23:00 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.159.214.137] ident=elvis)
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <200903012322.n21NMug1025684@floodgap.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <200903010955.38852.mateusz@viste-family.net> from Mateusz Viste at "Mar 1, 9 09:55:34 am"
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ate: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:22:56 -0800 (PST)
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(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:23:06 -0600
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Mozilla Add-ons: OverbiteFF Nomination (fwd)
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(???) > Good news today -- OverbiteFF is now a public add-on. You should be able to
(???) > get automatic updates now and all the good things you would expect.
(???)
(???) That's cool!
(???)
(???) ...But what about Firefox 2.x users? If you ask me, I'm still using Firefox
(???) 2.0.0.20 (3.x is dramatically slow on my PC, and "clicks by itself" from
(???) time to time...).
(???) ou can still get the 2.0-compatible release directly from
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - Seen on hand dryer: "Push button for a message from your congressman." -----
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 00:27:04 2009
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
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(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:27:04 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:23:00 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.159.214.137] ident=elvis)
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <200903012322.n21NMug1025684@floodgap.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <200903010955.38852.mateusz@viste-family.net> from Mateusz Viste at "Mar 1, 9 09:55:34 am"
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ate: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:22:56 -0800 (PST)
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(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:23:06 -0600
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Mozilla Add-ons: OverbiteFF Nomination (fwd)
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
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(???) > Good news today -- OverbiteFF is now a public add-on. You should be able to
(???) > get automatic updates now and all the good things you would expect.
(???)
(???) That's cool!
(???)
(???) ...But what about Firefox 2.x users? If you ask me, I'm still using Firefox
(???) 2.0.0.20 (3.x is dramatically slow on my PC, and "clicks by itself" from
(???) time to time...).
(???) ou can still get the 2.0-compatible release directly from
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - Seen on hand dryer: "Push button for a message from your congressman." -----
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 04:22:54 2009
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(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,SPF_HELO_PASS,
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:22:54 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:17:35 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.153])
(???) eceived: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so1437570ywm.12
(???) for <gopher@complete.org>; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:17:33 -0800 (PST)
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(???) essage-ID: <3dbb56130903011917k44aef0f1tac99c3773614975a@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: "N. Theodore Matavka" <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
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(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:17:35 -0600
(???) -archive-position: 2590
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(???) ender: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) rrors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) -original-sender: n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com
(???) recedence: bulk
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(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:17:42 -0600
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Gopher clients
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: O
(???) -Status:
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(IMG) know this may sound a bit odd, but I am compiling a server of
(IMG) nteresting Programmes. Gopher is among them--I was looking for some
(???) inks to Gopher clients and software.
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 04:23:12 2009
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(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,SPF_HELO_PASS,
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:23:12 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:17:35 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.153])
(???) eceived: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so1437570ywm.12
(???) for <gopher@complete.org>; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:17:33 -0800 (PST)
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(???) d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
(???) h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject
(???) :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
(???) bh=/irQIDAf6ydAITSH5VT2jLEatj24wHm311DK3yCk3gQ=;
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(???) rvWV7FTKOrEhba6D/MY/xpVAkHb7kQyS4Vf/KQHI71nGFsO/raJ/IwXQ9KPw5Au8d5un
(???) kITUo8z97qCv+dYMZJ5LKTI47f8n78hV9Y5TY=
(???) omainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
(???) d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
(???) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type
(???) :content-transfer-encoding;
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(???) qXbmI0kQo+ylfdWC22OE6UF6U5I+DVmIaHMvE=
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(???) ate: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:17:33 -0500
(???) essage-ID: <3dbb56130903011917k44aef0f1tac99c3773614975a@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: "N. Theodore Matavka" <n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ontent-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:17:35 -0600
(???) -archive-position: 2590
(???) -ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
(???) ender: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) rrors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) -original-sender: n.theodore.matavka.files@gmail.com
(???) recedence: bulk
(???) eply-to: gopher@complete.org
(???) ist-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help>
(???) ist-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe>
(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:17:42 -0600
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Gopher clients
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: O
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 6
(IMG) know this may sound a bit odd, but I am compiling a server of
(IMG) nteresting Programmes. Gopher is among them--I was looking for some
(???) inks to Gopher clients and software.
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 04:30:29 2009
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS30517 64.85.160.0/20
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mini.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DKIM_SIGNED,SPF_HELO_PASS,
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:30:29 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:28:26 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from static-71-170-11-156.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.170.11.156] helo=turquoise.pongonova.net)
(???) eceived: from turquoise.pongonova.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pongonova.net; h=date:from
(???) eceived: from turquoise (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(???) ate: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:28:36 -0600
(???) rom: Brian Koontz <brian@pongonova.net>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) essage-ID: <20090302032836.GD18245@pongonova.net>
(???) eferences: <3dbb56130903011917k44aef0f1tac99c3773614975a@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ime-Version: 1.0
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(???) ontent-Disposition: inline
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(???) ser-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:28:25 -0600
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
(???) -archive-position: 2591
(???) -ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
(???) ender: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) rrors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) -original-sender: brian@pongonova.net
(???) recedence: bulk
(???) eply-to: gopher@complete.org
(???) ist-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help>
(???) ist-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe>
(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:28:32 -0600
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Gopher clients
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: O
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 7
(???) n Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 10:17:33PM -0500, N. Theodore Matavka wrote:
(???) I know this may sound a bit odd, but I am compiling a server of
(???) Interesting Programmes. Gopher is among them--I was looking for some
(???) links to Gopher clients and software.
(???) ou could start here:
(GIF) opher://hal3000.cx/1/Begin_Here
(???) --Brian
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 04:30:55 2009
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS30517 64.85.160.0/20
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mini.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DKIM_SIGNED,SPF_HELO_PASS,
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:30:55 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:28:26 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from static-71-170-11-156.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.170.11.156] helo=turquoise.pongonova.net)
(???) eceived: from turquoise.pongonova.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(???) KIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pongonova.net; h=date:from
(???) eceived: from turquoise (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(???) ate: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:28:36 -0600
(???) rom: Brian Koontz <brian@pongonova.net>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) essage-ID: <20090302032836.GD18245@pongonova.net>
(???) eferences: <3dbb56130903011917k44aef0f1tac99c3773614975a@mail.gmail.com>
(???) ime-Version: 1.0
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(???) ser-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:28:25 -0600
(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
(???) -archive-position: 2591
(???) -ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
(???) ender: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) rrors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) -original-sender: brian@pongonova.net
(???) recedence: bulk
(???) eply-to: gopher@complete.org
(???) ist-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help>
(???) ist-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe>
(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:28:32 -0600
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Gopher clients
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: O
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 8
(???) n Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 10:17:33PM -0500, N. Theodore Matavka wrote:
(???) I know this may sound a bit odd, but I am compiling a server of
(???) Interesting Programmes. Gopher is among them--I was looking for some
(???) links to Gopher clients and software.
(???) ou could start here:
(GIF) opher://hal3000.cx/1/Begin_Here
(???) --Brian
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 15:13:52 2009
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS30517 64.85.160.0/20
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mini.home
(???) -Spam-Level: *
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_SBL,SPF_HELO_PASS,
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:13:52 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:07:57 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from relay.etecsa.net ([200.55.128.14])
(???) eceived: from [200.55.128.2] (helo=mail.etecsa.net)
(???) eceived: (from daemon@localhost)
(???) eceived: from ppp-064ved2.pppi.enet.cu(200.55.181.64), claiming to be "arzhabana.co.cu"
(???) via SMTP by mail.etecsa.net, id smtpdsAxVkM; Mon Mar 2 09:07:33 2009
(???) eceived: from tribunal1 ([192.168.1.25])
(???) essage-ID: <C4965BABFD4943AFAE4809FBA8EAA633@tribunal1>
(???) rom: "Jorge Pinckney" <jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu>
(TN3) o: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) eferences: <200901270313.n0R3Dt74017946@floodgap.com> <E17D98F129F24FB0A652EFE59BB45307@tribunal1> <49824B56.5020202@ankylym.ru> <9C0BD4F0F5DD41D7B426FEDB266DF9D6@jorgef8e5e4d31>
(???) ate: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:12:01 -0500
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
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(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
(???) -Priority: 3
(???) -MSMail-Priority: Normal
(???) -Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
(???) -MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
(???) -MDRemoteIP: 192.168.1.25
(???) -Return-Path: jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu
(???) -MDaemon-Deliver-To: gopher@complete.org
(???) -MDAV-Processed: arzhabana.co.cu, Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:05:48 -0500
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:07:57 -0600
(???) -archive-position: 2592
(???) -ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
(???) ender: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) rrors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) -original-sender: jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu
(???) recedence: bulk
(???) eply-to: gopher@complete.org
(???) ist-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help>
(???) ist-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe>
(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:08:04 -0600
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: [?? Probable Spam] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web and gopher server
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: O
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 9
(IMG) mean: an email address working like a server, example;
(GIF) opher@dna.affrc.go.jp to get binary files, using specifics commands
(???) ---- Original Message -----
(???) rom: "Jorge Pinckney" <jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu>
(TN3) o: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) ent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:56 PM
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: [?? Probable Spam] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web and
(GIF) opher server
(???) I mean: get binary files using a gopher server (using gopher server like a
(???) tools to access Internet by email only)
(???) Where I live, I can not get Internet...
(???) Jorge jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu
(???) ----- Original Message -----
(???) From: "Roman Pavlov" <webmaster@ankylym.ru>
(???) To: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:35 PM
(???) Subject: [gopher] Re: [?? Probable Spam] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web
(???) and
(???) gopher server
(???)
(???)
(???) > Jorge Pinckney wrote:
(???) >> Please, how can I get an active server accessing Internet by email only?
(???) >> Anybody knows one?
(???) >
(???) > Do you mean a gopher server accessible via gophermail?
(???) >
(???) > I used to have one, but then had to close it because of massive spam
(???) > abuse.
(???) >
(???) > Honestly, I didn't think that anyone would ever use such a server except
(???) > for gopher experiments, but if someone is interested I can try to open
(???) > it once more sometimes... (in fact, gophermail queries are mostly
(???) > predictable and creating a spam filter should be quite easy)
(???) >
(???) >> Thanks
(???) >> Jorge
(???) >> ----- Original Message -----
(???) >> From: "Cameron Kaiser" <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) >> To: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:13 PM
(???) >> Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [gopher] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web and
(???) >> gopher server
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>> From comp.infosystems.gopher.
(???) >>>
(???) >>> From: Mateusz Viste <mateusz.visteATmailDOTru@invalid.invalid>
(???) >>> Subject: Grumpy - a web & gopher server
(???) >>> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
(???) >>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:38:38 +0100
(???) >>>
(???) >>> Hi!
(???) >>>
(???) >>> I am not sure if this newsgroup is still alive, but anyway :)
(???) >>>
(???) >>> I would like to make a little announcement. Few months ago, I wrote a
(???) >>> web
(???) >>> server, which I called "Grumpy". Recently, I added an Gopher engine to
(???) >>> this
(???) >>> server, so it can serve HTTP content, Gopher, or both. Of course, it
(???) >>> may
(???) >>> act as a Gopher-only server.
(???) >>>
(???) >>> I always liked the simplicity of Gopher, and I am pleased to discover
(???) >>> that
(???) >>> even today, there are still many servers serving gopher content around
(???) >>> the
(???) >>> world. :-)
(???) >>>
(???) >>> The Grumpy server is hosting its own website and gopher site, which are
(???) >>> respectively at:
(???) >>> http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/grumpy/
(???) >>> gopher://gopher.viste-family.net/1/grumpy
(???) >>>
(???) >>> Best regards,
(???) >>> Mateusz Viste
(???) >>>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >
(???)
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 02 15:14:10 2009
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS30517 64.85.160.0/20
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mini.home
(???) -Spam-Level: **
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_SBL,SPF_HELO_PASS,
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:14:10 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:07:57 -0600 (CST)
(???) eceived: from relay.etecsa.net ([200.55.128.14])
(???) eceived: from [200.55.128.2] (helo=mail.etecsa.net)
(???) eceived: (from daemon@localhost)
(???) eceived: from ppp-064ved2.pppi.enet.cu(200.55.181.64), claiming to be "arzhabana.co.cu"
(???) via SMTP by mail.etecsa.net, id smtpdsAxVkM; Mon Mar 2 09:07:33 2009
(???) eceived: from tribunal1 ([192.168.1.25])
(???) essage-ID: <C4965BABFD4943AFAE4809FBA8EAA633@tribunal1>
(???) rom: "Jorge Pinckney" <jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu>
(TN3) o: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) eferences: <200901270313.n0R3Dt74017946@floodgap.com> <E17D98F129F24FB0A652EFE59BB45307@tribunal1> <49824B56.5020202@ankylym.ru> <9C0BD4F0F5DD41D7B426FEDB266DF9D6@jorgef8e5e4d31>
(???) ate: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:12:01 -0500
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
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(???) ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
(???) -Priority: 3
(???) -MSMail-Priority: Normal
(???) -Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
(???) -MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
(???) -MDRemoteIP: 192.168.1.25
(???) -Return-Path: jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu
(???) -MDaemon-Deliver-To: gopher@complete.org
(???) -MDAV-Processed: arzhabana.co.cu, Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:05:48 -0500
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:07:57 -0600
(???) -archive-position: 2592
(???) -ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
(???) ender: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) rrors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) -original-sender: jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu
(???) recedence: bulk
(???) eply-to: gopher@complete.org
(???) ist-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help>
(???) ist-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe>
(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:08:04 -0600
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: [?? Probable Spam] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web and gopher server
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(IMG) mean: an email address working like a server, example;
(GIF) opher@dna.affrc.go.jp to get binary files, using specifics commands
(???) ---- Original Message -----
(???) rom: "Jorge Pinckney" <jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu>
(TN3) o: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) ent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:56 PM
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: [?? Probable Spam] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web and
(GIF) opher server
(???) I mean: get binary files using a gopher server (using gopher server like a
(???) tools to access Internet by email only)
(???) Where I live, I can not get Internet...
(???) Jorge jorgep@arzhabana.co.cu
(???) ----- Original Message -----
(???) From: "Roman Pavlov" <webmaster@ankylym.ru>
(???) To: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:35 PM
(???) Subject: [gopher] Re: [?? Probable Spam] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web
(???) and
(???) gopher server
(???)
(???)
(???) > Jorge Pinckney wrote:
(???) >> Please, how can I get an active server accessing Internet by email only?
(???) >> Anybody knows one?
(???) >
(???) > Do you mean a gopher server accessible via gophermail?
(???) >
(???) > I used to have one, but then had to close it because of massive spam
(???) > abuse.
(???) >
(???) > Honestly, I didn't think that anyone would ever use such a server except
(???) > for gopher experiments, but if someone is interested I can try to open
(???) > it once more sometimes... (in fact, gophermail queries are mostly
(???) > predictable and creating a spam filter should be quite easy)
(???) >
(???) >> Thanks
(???) >> Jorge
(???) >> ----- Original Message -----
(???) >> From: "Cameron Kaiser" <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) >> To: <gopher@complete.org>
(???) >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:13 PM
(???) >> Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [gopher] from c.i.gopher: Grumpy - a web and
(???) >> gopher server
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>> From comp.infosystems.gopher.
(???) >>>
(???) >>> From: Mateusz Viste <mateusz.visteATmailDOTru@invalid.invalid>
(???) >>> Subject: Grumpy - a web & gopher server
(???) >>> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
(???) >>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:38:38 +0100
(???) >>>
(???) >>> Hi!
(???) >>>
(???) >>> I am not sure if this newsgroup is still alive, but anyway :)
(???) >>>
(???) >>> I would like to make a little announcement. Few months ago, I wrote a
(???) >>> web
(???) >>> server, which I called "Grumpy". Recently, I added an Gopher engine to
(???) >>> this
(???) >>> server, so it can serve HTTP content, Gopher, or both. Of course, it
(???) >>> may
(???) >>> act as a Gopher-only server.
(???) >>>
(???) >>> I always liked the simplicity of Gopher, and I am pleased to discover
(???) >>> that
(???) >>> even today, there are still many servers serving gopher content around
(???) >>> the
(???) >>> world. :-)
(???) >>>
(???) >>> The Grumpy server is hosting its own website and gopher site, which are
(???) >>> respectively at:
(???) >>> http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/grumpy/
(???) >>> gopher://gopher.viste-family.net/1/grumpy
(???) >>>
(???) >>> Best regards,
(???) >>> Mateusz Viste
(???) >>>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >>
(???) >
(???)
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed Mar 11 15:36:12 2009
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(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:36:12 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:27:39 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.159.214.137] ident=elvis)
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <200903111427.n2BERZAj014228@floodgap.com>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ate: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT)
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(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:27:45 -0500
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(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Signs your coders don't have enough to do (xkcd)
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(GIF) opher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/fun/xkcd/comics/550/554
(???) slight language warning for the sensitive)
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - And if I claim to be a wise man/it surely means that I don't know. -- Kansas
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed Mar 11 15:37:11 2009
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:37:11 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:27:39 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.159.214.137] ident=elvis)
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <200903111427.n2BERZAj014228@floodgap.com>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ate: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT)
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(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:27:45 -0500
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Signs your coders don't have enough to do (xkcd)
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: O
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 12
(GIF) opher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/fun/xkcd/comics/550/554
(???) slight language warning for the sensitive)
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - And if I claim to be a wise man/it surely means that I don't know. -- Kansas
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Sat Mar 14 13:33:33 2009
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:33:33 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:27:08 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.147])
(???) eceived: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1674988qwf.0
(???) for <gopher@complete.org>; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
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(???) :from:to:content-type;
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(???) d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
(???) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type;
(???) b=X1FJD/ZqZ9E57+5QAx+3flb6EIS5xVrj9R/HyOnuBrSO/lOJjju9a+dbYfjGm8XZ/y
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(???) ate: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:27:06 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <2326c590903140527q594f7d7eu70baceeca8c7307@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Matthew Nawrocki <matthew.nawrocki@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
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(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:27:08 -0500
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(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:27:15 -0500
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] An alternate gopher-driven universe?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
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(HTM) ttp://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/13/2039205
(TN3) hat is some crazy stuff...
(???) att
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Sat Mar 14 13:34:07 2009
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(???) -Spam-ASN: AS30517 64.85.160.0/20
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(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,SPF_HELO_PASS,
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:34:07 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:27:08 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.147])
(???) eceived: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1674988qwf.0
(???) for <gopher@complete.org>; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
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(???) d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
(???) h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject
(???) :from:to:content-type;
(???) bh=if055r4ST33xxaFmnEiRQe4hGQXDZeNIEaXXXmsTZAA=;
(???) b=b9Ot2Wlxg0lPqDH1wL6LGqObzulYmSApB8SwfNQkz9RSDr4mwQnvuG7rTd1SeuXHtT
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(???) d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
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(???) b=X1FJD/ZqZ9E57+5QAx+3flb6EIS5xVrj9R/HyOnuBrSO/lOJjju9a+dbYfjGm8XZ/y
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(???) 3SOo83FWugn4h4/o7qmruWOONdnF4TDdyiHHU=
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(???) ate: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:27:06 -0400
(???) essage-ID: <2326c590903140527q594f7d7eu70baceeca8c7307@mail.gmail.com>
(???) rom: Matthew Nawrocki <matthew.nawrocki@gmail.com>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ontent-type: text/plain
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:27:08 -0500
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(???) eply-to: gopher@complete.org
(???) ist-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help>
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(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:27:15 -0500
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
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(???) ubject: [gopher] An alternate gopher-driven universe?
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on telefisk.org)
(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 14
(HTM) ttp://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/13/2039205
(TN3) hat is some crazy stuff...
(???) att
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Sat Mar 14 16:07:30 2009
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
(???) -Spam-ASN: AS30517 64.85.160.0/20
(???) -Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on web.home
(???) -Spam-Level:
(???) -Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS
(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:07:30 +0100
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:05:13 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.159.214.137] ident=elvis)
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <200903141505.n2EF5As4014824@floodgap.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <2326c590903140527q594f7d7eu70baceeca8c7307@mail.gmail.com> from Matthew Nawrocki at "Mar 14, 9 08:27:06 am"
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(???) eply-to: gopher@complete.org
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(???) ist-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0
(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) ist-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe>
(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:05:20 -0500
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: An alternate gopher-driven universe?
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(???) That is some crazy stuff...
(IMG) t does make some interesting points, though. The one I found particularly
(???) oteworthy was that gopher in some respects was easier to deal with for
(SND) imply serving multimedia.
(???) ore to the point, if WWW had died out, WWW-like features probably *would*
(HTM) ave started to emerge within gopher menus. It *is* a logical extension to,
(SND) ay, only make part of a menu item active. Eventually some sort of markup
(???) anguage would have evolved, even if it wouldn't have looked much like SGML.
(TN3) hanks for the link.
(???) -
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(???) - This geek BRKs for 6502s. --------------------------------------------------
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(???) http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/13/2039205
(???)
(???) That is some crazy stuff...
(IMG) t does make some interesting points, though. The one I found particularly
(???) oteworthy was that gopher in some respects was easier to deal with for
(SND) imply serving multimedia.
(???) ore to the point, if WWW had died out, WWW-like features probably *would*
(HTM) ave started to emerge within gopher menus. It *is* a logical extension to,
(SND) ay, only make part of a menu item active. Eventually some sort of markup
(???) anguage would have evolved, even if it wouldn't have looked much like SGML.
(TN3) hanks for the link.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - This geek BRKs for 6502s. --------------------------------------------------
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: An alternate gopher-driven universe?
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(???) ut beyond markup languages, see the key to doing extraordinary things
s to keep
(???) hings simple, when our home machines are as powerful as HAL (not the
(GIF) opher server
(???) he computer from space odyssey :P) And we are actually able to talk
(???) o our computers
(???) nd say something like hey computer send an email to my friend xyz
(???) eminding them of
(???) he fishing trip this weekend, and then the computer does it without
(???) ny more intervention.
(???) et's say you said something like Computer go purchase ebook abc and
(???) egin to recite it
(???) o me, if the entire interwebz was basically text based semi-gopher
(SND) ervers, it would be much
(???) asier for the machine to archive and parse all the servers it could
(???) ind menu systems and
(???) nd text links, as apposed to trillions of images, billions of movies,
(???) uadrillions of audio files,
(PNG) oorly written websites that contain nothing but high level markup
(SND) cript that would almost
mpossible for it to parse without actually having the human brain to
(???) ook at what the website
(???) ooks like as apposed to just looking at the code.
(???) o in my opinion the simpler we can keep everything that we hold
(???) aluable in this world
(???) he easier it will be to do more amazing stuff with those items.
(???) ey on a side note, Cam are u running an AIX server, i thought i might
(???) f seen somewhere
(???) here you were running one, i think the old IBM aix boxes had a gopher
(DOC) emon, and I got one
(???) n my desk i just setup and i actually found a monitor to plug up to
t so I can see what's going on
(???) ow as for the BNC connection in the back... well... I wonder if I can
(???) orward all tcp traffic out of the
(SND) erial port :D
(???) att
(???) n Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wro=
(???) e:
(???) > http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D09/03/13/2039205
(???) >
(???) > That is some crazy stuff...
(???)
(???) It does make some interesting points, though. The one I found particularl=
(???)
(???) noteworthy was that gopher in some respects was easier to deal with for
(???) simply serving multimedia.
(???)
(???) More to the point, if WWW had died out, WWW-like features probably *would=
(???)
(???) have started to emerge within gopher menus. It *is* a logical extension t=
(???) ,
(???) say, only make part of a menu item active. Eventually some sort of markup
(???) language would have evolved, even if it wouldn't have looked much like SG=
(???) L.
(???)
(???) Thanks for the link.
(???)
(???) --
(???) ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.c=
(???) m/ --
(???) =A0Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodga=
(PNG) .com
(???) -- This geek BRKs for 6502s. --------------------------------------------=
(???) -----
(???)
(???)
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(???) ut beyond markup languages, see the key to doing extraordinary things
s to keep
(???) hings simple, when our home machines are as powerful as HAL (not the
(GIF) opher server
(???) he computer from space odyssey :P) And we are actually able to talk
(???) o our computers
(???) nd say something like hey computer send an email to my friend xyz
(???) eminding them of
(???) he fishing trip this weekend, and then the computer does it without
(???) ny more intervention.
(???) et's say you said something like Computer go purchase ebook abc and
(???) egin to recite it
(???) o me, if the entire interwebz was basically text based semi-gopher
(SND) ervers, it would be much
(???) asier for the machine to archive and parse all the servers it could
(???) ind menu systems and
(???) nd text links, as apposed to trillions of images, billions of movies,
(???) uadrillions of audio files,
(PNG) oorly written websites that contain nothing but high level markup
(SND) cript that would almost
mpossible for it to parse without actually having the human brain to
(???) ook at what the website
(???) ooks like as apposed to just looking at the code.
(???) o in my opinion the simpler we can keep everything that we hold
(???) aluable in this world
(???) he easier it will be to do more amazing stuff with those items.
(???) ey on a side note, Cam are u running an AIX server, i thought i might
(???) f seen somewhere
(???) here you were running one, i think the old IBM aix boxes had a gopher
(DOC) emon, and I got one
(???) n my desk i just setup and i actually found a monitor to plug up to
t so I can see what's going on
(???) ow as for the BNC connection in the back... well... I wonder if I can
(???) orward all tcp traffic out of the
(SND) erial port :D
(???) att
(???) n Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wro=
(???) e:
(???) > http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D09/03/13/2039205
(???) >
(???) > That is some crazy stuff...
(???)
(???) It does make some interesting points, though. The one I found particularl=
(???)
(???) noteworthy was that gopher in some respects was easier to deal with for
(???) simply serving multimedia.
(???)
(???) More to the point, if WWW had died out, WWW-like features probably *would=
(???)
(???) have started to emerge within gopher menus. It *is* a logical extension t=
(???) ,
(???) say, only make part of a menu item active. Eventually some sort of markup
(???) language would have evolved, even if it wouldn't have looked much like SG=
(???) L.
(???)
(???) Thanks for the link.
(???)
(???) --
(???) ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.c=
(???) m/ --
(???) =A0Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodga=
(PNG) .com
(???) -- This geek BRKs for 6502s. --------------------------------------------=
(???) -----
(???)
(???)
(???)
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(???) cratch that I got some old AIX servers AND some old SUN servers =3D-)
(???) ipeeee
(???) n Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Matthew Holevinski <eylusion@gmail.com> w=
(???) ote:
(???) But beyond markup languages, see the key to doing extraordinary things
(???) is to keep
(???) things simple, when our home machines are as powerful as HAL (not the
(???) gopher server
(???) the computer from space odyssey :P) And we are actually able to talk
(???) to our computers
(???) and say something like hey computer send an email to my friend xyz
(???) reminding them of
(???) the fishing trip this weekend, and then the computer does it without
(???) any more intervention.
(???)
(???) let's say you said something like Computer go purchase ebook abc and
(???) begin to recite it
(???) to me, if the entire interwebz was basically text based semi-gopher
(???) servers, it would be much
(???) easier for the machine to archive and parse all the servers it could
(???) find menu systems and
(???) and text links, as apposed to trillions of images, billions of movies,
(???) quadrillions of audio files,
(???) poorly written websites that contain nothing but high level markup
(???) script that would almost
(???) impossible for it to parse without actually having the human brain to
(???) look at what the website
(???) looks like as apposed to just looking at the code.
(???)
(???) So in my opinion the simpler we can keep everything that we hold
(???) valuable in this world
(???) the easier it will be to do more amazing stuff with those items.
(???)
(???) Hey on a side note, Cam are u running an AIX server, i thought i might
(???) of seen somewhere
(???) where you were running one, i think the old IBM aix boxes had a gopher
(???) demon, and I got one
(???) on my desk i just setup and i actually found a monitor to plug up to
(???) it so I can see what's going on
(???) now as for the BNC connection in the back... well... I wonder if I can
(???) forward all tcp traffic out of the
(???) serial port :D
(???)
(???) Matt
(???)
(???) On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> w=
(???) ote:
(???) >> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D09/03/13/2039205
(???) >>
(???) >> That is some crazy stuff...
(???) >
(???) > It does make some interesting points, though. The one I found particular=
(???) y
(???) > noteworthy was that gopher in some respects was easier to deal with for
(???) > simply serving multimedia.
(???) >
(???) > More to the point, if WWW had died out, WWW-like features probably *woul=
(DOC) *
(???) > have started to emerge within gopher menus. It *is* a logical extension =
(???) o,
(???) > say, only make part of a menu item active. Eventually some sort of marku=
(PNG)
(???) > language would have evolved, even if it wouldn't have looked much like S=
(???) ML.
(???) >
(???) > Thanks for the link.
(???) >
(???) > --
(???) > ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.=
(???) om/ --
(???) > =A0Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodg=
(???) p.com
(???) > -- This geek BRKs for 6502s. -------------------------------------------=
(???) ------
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???)
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(???) cratch that I got some old AIX servers AND some old SUN servers =3D-)
(???) ipeeee
(???) n Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Matthew Holevinski <eylusion@gmail.com> w=
(???) ote:
(???) But beyond markup languages, see the key to doing extraordinary things
(???) is to keep
(???) things simple, when our home machines are as powerful as HAL (not the
(???) gopher server
(???) the computer from space odyssey :P) And we are actually able to talk
(???) to our computers
(???) and say something like hey computer send an email to my friend xyz
(???) reminding them of
(???) the fishing trip this weekend, and then the computer does it without
(???) any more intervention.
(???)
(???) let's say you said something like Computer go purchase ebook abc and
(???) begin to recite it
(???) to me, if the entire interwebz was basically text based semi-gopher
(???) servers, it would be much
(???) easier for the machine to archive and parse all the servers it could
(???) find menu systems and
(???) and text links, as apposed to trillions of images, billions of movies,
(???) quadrillions of audio files,
(???) poorly written websites that contain nothing but high level markup
(???) script that would almost
(???) impossible for it to parse without actually having the human brain to
(???) look at what the website
(???) looks like as apposed to just looking at the code.
(???)
(???) So in my opinion the simpler we can keep everything that we hold
(???) valuable in this world
(???) the easier it will be to do more amazing stuff with those items.
(???)
(???) Hey on a side note, Cam are u running an AIX server, i thought i might
(???) of seen somewhere
(???) where you were running one, i think the old IBM aix boxes had a gopher
(???) demon, and I got one
(???) on my desk i just setup and i actually found a monitor to plug up to
(???) it so I can see what's going on
(???) now as for the BNC connection in the back... well... I wonder if I can
(???) forward all tcp traffic out of the
(???) serial port :D
(???)
(???) Matt
(???)
(???) On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> w=
(???) ote:
(???) >> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D09/03/13/2039205
(???) >>
(???) >> That is some crazy stuff...
(???) >
(???) > It does make some interesting points, though. The one I found particular=
(???) y
(???) > noteworthy was that gopher in some respects was easier to deal with for
(???) > simply serving multimedia.
(???) >
(???) > More to the point, if WWW had died out, WWW-like features probably *woul=
(DOC) *
(???) > have started to emerge within gopher menus. It *is* a logical extension =
(???) o,
(???) > say, only make part of a menu item active. Eventually some sort of marku=
(PNG)
(???) > language would have evolved, even if it wouldn't have looked much like S=
(???) ML.
(???) >
(???) > Thanks for the link.
(???) >
(???) > --
(???) > ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.=
(???) om/ --
(???) > =A0Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodg=
(???) p.com
(???) > -- This geek BRKs for 6502s. -------------------------------------------=
(???) ------
(???) >
(???) >
(???) >
(???)
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Mar 30 06:11:53 2009
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Emergency downtime for gopher.floodgap.com
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(HTM) elsinki needs a new UPS (it is temporarily connected directly to the grid
(SND) ince I didn't discover it until I came in the door tonight). Thus, the
(???) loodgap gopher will be offline tomorrow at 6pm Pacific for approximately an
(HTM) our for installation and checks. Sorry for the inconvenience.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - Do not use for personal hygiene. -- Actual label, toilet brush -------------
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(SND) ince I didn't discover it until I came in the door tonight). Thus, the
(???) loodgap gopher will be offline tomorrow at 6pm Pacific for approximately an
(HTM) our for installation and checks. Sorry for the inconvenience.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - Do not use for personal hygiene. -- Actual label, toilet brush -------------