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(IMG) switched it to UTF-8 with BOM and although the BOM appears in FF2
(???) as a '?' at the start of the file), it now looks fine in lynx.
(TN3) he characters in question obviously weren't 7-bit ASCII, I had two
(???) é's on one line, and the output in lynx was that the links drawn
(DOC) idn't match the links that were highlighted when you pressed 'down',
(SND) uch that navigating the page produced erroneous drawing in the
(???) erminal.
(IMG) have also since discovered that URLs such as /h/linguistics/yolŋu/
(???) re not requested correctly. No URL escaping of the unicode characters
s performed, and ^K whatever that's supposed to mean: '/h/linguistics/
(???) ol^Ku' instead of '/h/linguistics/yol%C5%8Bu/'.
(???) n 29 Sep 2008, at 4:52 pm, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) >> I've had a problem for a while related to character sets.
(???) >> My root gophermap is encoded as ISO 8859-1, but for some reason =20
(???) >> characters appear broken when viewed with lynx and Firefox 2. My =20
(???) >> server is bucktooth 0.2.4
(???) > *what* characters appear broken? :) (in my mutt, your mail has '=20',
(???) > whatever that is)
(???)
(???) Looks like some of the quoted-printable leaked into the main message
(???) body ...
(???)
(???) >> How do I tell the client which encoding to use?
(???)
(???) > You can't. However, ISO-8859-1 should be about the best choice...
(???) > especially if you don't use any non-7-bit characters :)
(???)
(???) Right. It may also depend on the version of Perl you use, but even
(???) old Perls
(???) should still be okay with that (utf-8 is another story).
(???)
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(IMG) switched it to UTF-8 with BOM and although the BOM appears in FF2
(???) as a '?' at the start of the file), it now looks fine in lynx.
(TN3) he characters in question obviously weren't 7-bit ASCII, I had two
(???) é's on one line, and the output in lynx was that the links drawn
(DOC) idn't match the links that were highlighted when you pressed 'down',
(SND) uch that navigating the page produced erroneous drawing in the
(???) erminal.
(IMG) have also since discovered that URLs such as /h/linguistics/yolŋu/
(???) re not requested correctly. No URL escaping of the unicode characters
s performed, and ^K whatever that's supposed to mean: '/h/linguistics/
(???) ol^Ku' instead of '/h/linguistics/yol%C5%8Bu/'.
(???) n 29 Sep 2008, at 4:52 pm, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
(???) >> I've had a problem for a while related to character sets.
(???) >> My root gophermap is encoded as ISO 8859-1, but for some reason =20
(???) >> characters appear broken when viewed with lynx and Firefox 2. My =20
(???) >> server is bucktooth 0.2.4
(???) > *what* characters appear broken? :) (in my mutt, your mail has '=20',
(???) > whatever that is)
(???)
(???) Looks like some of the quoted-printable leaked into the main message
(???) body ...
(???)
(???) >> How do I tell the client which encoding to use?
(???)
(???) > You can't. However, ISO-8859-1 should be about the best choice...
(???) > especially if you don't use any non-7-bit characters :)
(???)
(???) Right. It may also depend on the version of Perl you use, but even
(???) old Perls
(???) should still be okay with that (utf-8 is another story).
(???)
(???) --
(???) ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/
(???) --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) -- This message will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Jim.
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(???) I switched it to UTF-8 with BOM and although the BOM appears in FF2 =20
(???) (as a '?' at the start of the file), it now looks fine in lynx.
(???) The characters in question obviously weren't 7-bit ASCII, I had two =20
(???) '=C3=A9's on one line, and the output in lynx was that the links drawn =
(???) 20
(???) didn't match the links that were highlighted when you pressed 'down', =20
(???) such that navigating the page produced erroneous drawing in the =20
(???) terminal.
(IMG) 'm not surprised, Lynx does not have much history with non-7bit encodings.
(???) I have also since discovered that URLs such as /h/linguistics/yol=C5=8Bu/=
(???) =20
(???) are not requested correctly. No URL escaping of the unicode characters =
(???) 20
(???) is performed, and ^K whatever that's supposed to mean: '/h/linguistics/=
(???) 20
(???) yol^Ku' instead of '/h/linguistics/yol%C5%8Bu/'.
(???) ou mean the client does not request them correctly, or the server does not
(PNG) rocess the request correctly? I would probably call 8-bit Gopher handling
(???) undefined." However, if Unicode characters (or any non 7-bit entity) were
n a gopher selector, I don't think URL encoding them is really in the spir=
t
(???) f the RFC either.
(???) -=20
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(???) --
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(???) m
(???) - Don't Be Evil. -- Paul Buchheit ----------------------------------------=
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(???) I switched it to UTF-8 with BOM and although the BOM appears in FF2 =20
(???) (as a '?' at the start of the file), it now looks fine in lynx.
(???) The characters in question obviously weren't 7-bit ASCII, I had two =20
(???) '=C3=A9's on one line, and the output in lynx was that the links drawn =
(???) 20
(???) didn't match the links that were highlighted when you pressed 'down', =20
(???) such that navigating the page produced erroneous drawing in the =20
(???) terminal.
(IMG) 'm not surprised, Lynx does not have much history with non-7bit encodings.
(???) I have also since discovered that URLs such as /h/linguistics/yol=C5=8Bu/=
(???) =20
(???) are not requested correctly. No URL escaping of the unicode characters =
(???) 20
(???) is performed, and ^K whatever that's supposed to mean: '/h/linguistics/=
(???) 20
(???) yol^Ku' instead of '/h/linguistics/yol%C5%8Bu/'.
(???) ou mean the client does not request them correctly, or the server does not
(PNG) rocess the request correctly? I would probably call 8-bit Gopher handling
(???) undefined." However, if Unicode characters (or any non 7-bit entity) were
n a gopher selector, I don't think URL encoding them is really in the spir=
t
(???) f the RFC either.
(???) -=20
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(???) --
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(???) m
(???) - Don't Be Evil. -- Paul Buchheit ----------------------------------------=
(???) ---
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(IMG) haven't heard back from the tester who submitted the original bug report,
(SND) o I'll pass it to the group. Overbite build 1419 is available which fixes
(SND) ome small cosmetic issues, and has one big change, namely "dotless" mode.
(???) Dotless" is an internal filter to suppress the famous final full stop that
(???) he Gopher protocol ambiguously asks for or not on textual transmissions, but
(???) hich can trip up markup language parsers (for example, the current build
(DOC) ownloads SVG images correctly, but the Mozilla image parser refuses to
(DOC) isplay them if the trailing period gets added by the server). With "dotless"
(???) nabled, which is the default in 1419, if the dot plus a variable amount of
(???) railing white space or newline/returns exist at the end, they are trimmed.
(???) owever, I don't want to completely eliminate transparency, so if the
(PNG) reference extensions.overbiteff.dotless is present and set to false,
(???) verbiteFF will fall back on the old behaviour and will not try to filter
(???) he trailing period.
(IMG) hope to release 1419 with the coincident release of Firefox 3.1, and then
(SND) tart on Overbite 1.2 with XUL. However, as Firefox 2.0.0.x is now end of
(???) ife, 1.1.* will be the only supported version for Firefox 2, although I will
(SND) till make bug fixes and security patches against 1.1 for a period of time
(???) fter Mozilla ends Firefox 2/Moz 1.8 support.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - 1-GHz Pentium-III + Java + XSLT == 1-MHz 6502. -- Craig Bruce --------------
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Mon Oct 27 03:39:41 2008
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(IMG) haven't heard back from the tester who submitted the original bug report,
(SND) o I'll pass it to the group. Overbite build 1419 is available which fixes
(SND) ome small cosmetic issues, and has one big change, namely "dotless" mode.
(???) Dotless" is an internal filter to suppress the famous final full stop that
(???) he Gopher protocol ambiguously asks for or not on textual transmissions, but
(???) hich can trip up markup language parsers (for example, the current build
(DOC) ownloads SVG images correctly, but the Mozilla image parser refuses to
(DOC) isplay them if the trailing period gets added by the server). With "dotless"
(???) nabled, which is the default in 1419, if the dot plus a variable amount of
(???) railing white space or newline/returns exist at the end, they are trimmed.
(???) owever, I don't want to completely eliminate transparency, so if the
(PNG) reference extensions.overbiteff.dotless is present and set to false,
(???) verbiteFF will fall back on the old behaviour and will not try to filter
(???) he trailing period.
(IMG) hope to release 1419 with the coincident release of Firefox 3.1, and then
(SND) tart on Overbite 1.2 with XUL. However, as Firefox 2.0.0.x is now end of
(???) ife, 1.1.* will be the only supported version for Firefox 2, although I will
(SND) till make bug fixes and security patches against 1.1 for a period of time
(???) fter Mozilla ends Firefox 2/Moz 1.8 support.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - 1-GHz Pentium-III + Java + XSLT == 1-MHz 6502. -- Craig Bruce --------------
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(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
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(???) - "Bad dog, what a big mess you made! I told you to sit! SIT!!!" -- unknown --
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(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - "Bad dog, what a big mess you made! I told you to sit! SIT!!!" -- unknown --