(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Tue May 01 00:47:21 2007
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(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:45:41 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.18] helo=sdf.lonestar.org)
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(???) ate: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:35:42 -0700
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
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(???) ---------- Forwarded message ----------
(???) From: Christoph Lohmann
(???) Date: 28-Apr-2007 11:26
(???) Subject: Gopherd release
(???)
(???) Good day.
(???)
(???) You are not on IRC, so I am telling you the news over e-mail. There
(???) is a new gopherd_BSD.tgz on r-36.net that supports dir listings now
(???) and has some cleanups.
(???)
(???) Have a nice day.
(???)
(???) Sincerely,
(???)
(???) Christoph
(???) ood to know; I'll give it another try. Still haven't decided on what
(GIF) opher I'll run on the soon-to-be-revived simple machine. Initially I
(???) as sure I wanted the ability to run scripts built-in but I don't think
(IMG) 'm going to have as much dynamic content this time around so maybe
(GIF) opherd_bsd will do it for me.
(???) eff
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Tue May 01 00:48:01 2007
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(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:45:41 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.18] helo=sdf.lonestar.org)
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(???) essage-Id: <200704302235.l3UMZgvD026859@sdf.lonestar.org>
(???) ate: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:35:42 -0700
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Fwd: Gopherd(_BSD) release
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(???)
(???) ---------- Forwarded message ----------
(???) From: Christoph Lohmann
(???) Date: 28-Apr-2007 11:26
(???) Subject: Gopherd release
(???)
(???) Good day.
(???)
(???) You are not on IRC, so I am telling you the news over e-mail. There
(???) is a new gopherd_BSD.tgz on r-36.net that supports dir listings now
(???) and has some cleanups.
(???)
(???) Have a nice day.
(???)
(???) Sincerely,
(???)
(???) Christoph
(???) ood to know; I'll give it another try. Still haven't decided on what
(GIF) opher I'll run on the soon-to-be-revived simple machine. Initially I
(???) as sure I wanted the ability to run scripts built-in but I don't think
(IMG) 'm going to have as much dynamic content this time around so maybe
(GIF) opherd_bsd will do it for me.
(???) eff
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed May 02 08:23:05 2007
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Wed, 02 May 2007 08:23:05 +0200
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(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 02 May 2007 01:16:35 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from 85-10-193-136.clients.your-server.de ([85.10.193.136])
(???) eceived: from localhost (port-ip-213-211-226-171.reverse.mdcc-fun.de [213.211.226.171])
(???) ate: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:58:56 +0200
(???) rom: Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
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(???) -Mailer: Rohrpost
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(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
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(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 02 May 2007 01:16:43 -0500
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Gopherfs and stuff
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(???) -UID: 3
(???) ood morning.
(???) fter the cleanup of gopherd_BSD I have written this nice new toy:
(???) n application that interprets gopher as a FUSE file system. See the
(???) EADME for instructions how to use it.
(TN3) o Cameron Kaiser:
(???) incerely,
(???) hristoph Lohmann
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed May 02 08:23:10 2007
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Wed, 02 May 2007 08:23:10 +0200
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 02 May 2007 01:16:35 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from 85-10-193-136.clients.your-server.de ([85.10.193.136])
(???) eceived: from localhost (port-ip-213-211-226-171.reverse.mdcc-fun.de [213.211.226.171])
(???) ate: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:58:56 +0200
(???) rom: Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net>
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
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(???) -Mailer: Rohrpost
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(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 02 May 2007 01:16:34 -0500
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(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
(???) -List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
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(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
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(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
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(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 02 May 2007 01:16:43 -0500
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
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(???) ubject: [gopher] Gopherfs and stuff
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
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(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
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(???) ood morning.
(???) fter the cleanup of gopherd_BSD I have written this nice new toy:
(???) n application that interprets gopher as a FUSE file system. See the
(???) EADME for instructions how to use it.
(TN3) o Cameron Kaiser:
(???) incerely,
(???) hristoph Lohmann
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed May 02 14:43:07 2007
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@rachael.dyndns.org
(???) elivery-date: Wed, 02 May 2007 14:43:07 +0200
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 02 May 2007 07:40:04 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.159.214.137] ident=elvis)
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <200705021240.l42Ce4S2016798@floodgap.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <20070502075856.6252b9cf@localhost> from Christoph Lohmann at "May 2, 7 07:58:56 am"
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ate: Wed, 2 May 2007 05:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
(???) -Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)]
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(???) ist-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org>
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(???) ist-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org>
(???) ist-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org>
(???) ist-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/>
(???) -list: gopher
(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 02 May 2007 07:40:12 -0500
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Gopherfs and stuff
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
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(???) tatus: RO
(???) -Status:
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(???) -UID: 5
(???) I am not running a gopherd on r-36.net because of the lack of
(???) features in Gopher.
(IMG) 'm sorry, this is a terribly ironic statement. Most of us are running
(???) opher to *avoid*:
(???) a half-baked HTTP.
(SND) imply because such features are weighty or unnecessary for the purpose
(???) f using a gopher server. It also detracts from the practicality of
(SND) erver software if you are, so to speak, unwilling to "eat your own dog
(???) ood." If you won't run it, why would anyone else?
(???) or many people running a gopher server alone is unrealistic, and I
(DOC) on't offer all my services on gopher, but rather pick the ones that
(???) re appropriate for each.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. -- Joe Walsh -------------------
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed May 02 14:43:19 2007
(???) eturn-path: <gopher-bounce@complete.org>
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(???) nvelope-to: rachael@telefisk.org
(???) elivery-date: Wed, 02 May 2007 14:43:19 +0200
(???) eceived: from b01s02mr.corenetworks.net ([64.85.160.192] helo=glockenspiel.complete.org)
(???) eceived: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=glockenspiel)
(???) eceived: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 02 May 2007 07:40:04 -0500 (CDT)
(???) eceived: from floodgap.com ([66.159.214.137] ident=elvis)
(???) eceived: (from spectre@localhost)
(???) rom: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>
(???) essage-Id: <200705021240.l42Ce4S2016798@floodgap.com>
(IMG) n-Reply-To: <20070502075856.6252b9cf@localhost> from Christoph Lohmann at "May 2, 7 07:58:56 am"
(TN3) o: gopher@complete.org
(???) ate: Wed, 2 May 2007 05:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
(???) -Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)]
(???) IME-Version: 1.0
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(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 02 May 2007 07:40:03 -0500
(???) -archive-position: 1615
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(???) -Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 02 May 2007 07:40:12 -0500
(???) -SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 64.85.160.192
(???) -SA-Exim-Mail-From: gopher-bounce@complete.org
(???) ubject: [gopher] Re: Gopherfs and stuff
(???) -SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1
(???) -SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on rachael.dyndns.org)
(???) tatus: O
(???) -Status:
(???) -Keywords:
(???) -UID: 6
(???) I am not running a gopherd on r-36.net because of the lack of
(???) features in Gopher.
(IMG) 'm sorry, this is a terribly ironic statement. Most of us are running
(???) opher to *avoid*:
(???) a half-baked HTTP.
(SND) imply because such features are weighty or unnecessary for the purpose
(???) f using a gopher server. It also detracts from the practicality of
(SND) erver software if you are, so to speak, unwilling to "eat your own dog
(???) ood." If you won't run it, why would anyone else?
(???) or many people running a gopher server alone is unrealistic, and I
(DOC) on't offer all my services on gopher, but rather pick the ones that
(???) re appropriate for each.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. -- Joe Walsh -------------------
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed May 02 17:37:20 2007
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(???) m Wed, 2 May 2007 05:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
(SND) chrieb Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>:
(???) > I am not running a gopherd on r-36.net because of the lack of
(???) > features in Gopher.
(???)
(???) I'm sorry, this is a terribly ironic statement. Most of us are running
(???) Gopher to *avoid*:
(???) ut I need a way to address only a certain range of bytes in a file, to
(GIF) et the size of the to be downloaded file and to see if the file was
(???) hanged since I last got it. Of course Gopher has the advantage of a
(DOC) efined directory index, but you can assume this in HTML (without Java-
(SND) cript) too.
(???) simply because such features are weighty or unnecessary for the
(???) purpose of using a gopher server. It also detracts from the
(???) practicality of server software if you are, so to speak, unwilling to
(???) "eat your own dog food." If you won't run it, why would anyone else?
(???) oone is supposed to run the gopherd. It was written for Plan 9 so it
(GIF) ot some way to be integrated into the gopherspace and because the
(PNG) rotocol is easy to implement. The port of that gopherd to Linux/BSD
(???) as just a fun project. And the current feature change was done so I
(???) an use the gopherfs for simple and fast to setup file transfer.
(???) For many people running a gopher server alone is unrealistic, and I
(???) don't offer all my services on gopher, but rather pick the ones that
(???) are appropriate for each.
(TN3) hat is too much effort in a pure standard Apache environment and it
(???) pens another port. If you can do it over HTTP, why would you do it
(???) ver Gopher?
(IMG) am sorry, I am not a gopher enthusiast.
(???) incerely,
(???) hristoph Lohmann
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(???) m Wed, 2 May 2007 05:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
(SND) chrieb Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>:
(???) > I am not running a gopherd on r-36.net because of the lack of
(???) > features in Gopher.
(???)
(???) I'm sorry, this is a terribly ironic statement. Most of us are running
(???) Gopher to *avoid*:
(???) ut I need a way to address only a certain range of bytes in a file, to
(GIF) et the size of the to be downloaded file and to see if the file was
(???) hanged since I last got it. Of course Gopher has the advantage of a
(DOC) efined directory index, but you can assume this in HTML (without Java-
(SND) cript) too.
(???) simply because such features are weighty or unnecessary for the
(???) purpose of using a gopher server. It also detracts from the
(???) practicality of server software if you are, so to speak, unwilling to
(???) "eat your own dog food." If you won't run it, why would anyone else?
(???) oone is supposed to run the gopherd. It was written for Plan 9 so it
(GIF) ot some way to be integrated into the gopherspace and because the
(PNG) rotocol is easy to implement. The port of that gopherd to Linux/BSD
(???) as just a fun project. And the current feature change was done so I
(???) an use the gopherfs for simple and fast to setup file transfer.
(???) For many people running a gopher server alone is unrealistic, and I
(???) don't offer all my services on gopher, but rather pick the ones that
(???) are appropriate for each.
(TN3) hat is too much effort in a pure standard Apache environment and it
(???) pens another port. If you can do it over HTTP, why would you do it
(???) ver Gopher?
(IMG) am sorry, I am not a gopher enthusiast.
(???) incerely,
(???) hristoph Lohmann
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(???) > simply because such features are weighty or unnecessary for the
(???) > purpose of using a gopher server. It also detracts from the
(???) > practicality of server software if you are, so to speak, unwilling to
(???) > "eat your own dog food." If you won't run it, why would anyone else?
(???)
(???) Noone is supposed to run the gopherd. It was written for Plan 9 so it
(???) got some way to be integrated into the gopherspace and because the
(???) protocol is easy to implement. The port of that gopherd to Linux/BSD
(???) was just a fun project. And the current feature change was done so I
(???) can use the gopherfs for simple and fast to setup file transfer.
(???)
(???) > For many people running a gopher server alone is unrealistic, and I
(???) > don't offer all my services on gopher, but rather pick the ones that
(???) > are appropriate for each.
(???)
(???) That is too much effort in a pure standard Apache environment and it
(???) opens another port. If you can do it over HTTP, why would you do it
(???) over Gopher?
(???) I am sorry, I am not a gopher enthusiast.
(IMG) don't understand why you are bothering then. It makes no sense to
(???) elease a server program no one is "supposed to run" for a protocol you
(DOC) on't like, and won't support.
(IMG) 'm all for more diversity in the gopher community, but your statements
(DOC) on't make any sense. I'm glad you're offering the choice, but you don't
nspire much confidence in your work when there are other alternatives
(???) hat are supported by enthusiasts, who do use them, and who believe the
(PNG) rotocol offers certain advantages.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - Watch out, Citizens. Marx's tomb is a communist plot. ----------------------
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed May 02 18:36:03 2007
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(???) > simply because such features are weighty or unnecessary for the
(???) > purpose of using a gopher server. It also detracts from the
(???) > practicality of server software if you are, so to speak, unwilling to
(???) > "eat your own dog food." If you won't run it, why would anyone else?
(???)
(???) Noone is supposed to run the gopherd. It was written for Plan 9 so it
(???) got some way to be integrated into the gopherspace and because the
(???) protocol is easy to implement. The port of that gopherd to Linux/BSD
(???) was just a fun project. And the current feature change was done so I
(???) can use the gopherfs for simple and fast to setup file transfer.
(???)
(???) > For many people running a gopher server alone is unrealistic, and I
(???) > don't offer all my services on gopher, but rather pick the ones that
(???) > are appropriate for each.
(???)
(???) That is too much effort in a pure standard Apache environment and it
(???) opens another port. If you can do it over HTTP, why would you do it
(???) over Gopher?
(???) I am sorry, I am not a gopher enthusiast.
(IMG) don't understand why you are bothering then. It makes no sense to
(???) elease a server program no one is "supposed to run" for a protocol you
(DOC) on't like, and won't support.
(IMG) 'm all for more diversity in the gopher community, but your statements
(DOC) on't make any sense. I'm glad you're offering the choice, but you don't
nspire much confidence in your work when there are other alternatives
(???) hat are supported by enthusiasts, who do use them, and who believe the
(PNG) rotocol offers certain advantages.
(???) -
(???) ----------------------------------- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
(???) Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@floodgap.com
(???) - Watch out, Citizens. Marx's tomb is a communist plot. ----------------------
(???) rom gopher-bounce@complete.org Wed May 02 19:32:59 2007
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(???) ood evening.
(???) m Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:28 -0700 (PDT)
(SND) chrieb Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>:
(???) I don't understand why you are bothering then. It makes no sense to
(???) release a server program no one is "supposed to run" for a protocol
(???) you don't like, and won't support.
(???) ead the copyright line in the source code. Nothing else applies.
(???) I'm all for more diversity in the gopher community, but your
(???) statements don't make any sense. I'm glad you're offering the choice,
(???) but you don't inspire much confidence in your work when there are
(???) other alternatives that are supported by enthusiasts, who do use
(???) them, and who believe the protocol offers certain advantages.
(???) se my gopherd! Sorry for the irony.
(???) nd of discussion.
(???) incerely,
(???) hristoph Lohmann
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(???) rom: Christoph Lohmann <20h@r-36.net>
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(???) ood evening.
(???) m Wed, 2 May 2007 09:31:28 -0700 (PDT)
(SND) chrieb Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com>:
(???) I don't understand why you are bothering then. It makes no sense to
(???) release a server program no one is "supposed to run" for a protocol
(???) you don't like, and won't support.
(???) ead the copyright line in the source code. Nothing else applies.
(???) I'm all for more diversity in the gopher community, but your
(???) statements don't make any sense. I'm glad you're offering the choice,
(???) but you don't inspire much confidence in your work when there are
(???) other alternatives that are supported by enthusiasts, who do use
(???) them, and who believe the protocol offers certain advantages.
(???) se my gopherd! Sorry for the irony.
(???) nd of discussion.
(???) incerely,
(???) hristoph Lohmann