2020-01-16 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nick Bostrom's Simulation Argument says that at least one of the following is true: 1) The human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching "posthuman" stage. 2) Any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history. 3) We are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It's a bit confusing that the two first ones are made to be negative statements, so I would clean that up by saying: It is likely that any civilization that reaches the capability of high-powered simulation will use this capability and thus the number of consciousnesses that are simulated is so high compared to "real" beings that I am very likely experiencing a simulated consciousness. I have not dug very deeply into the argument, but I have a sort of "instinct" against it. It smells like a tautology. I have seen some reactions to it but not one that questions the idea that we can make any predictions about the "real world" from inside a simulation. So, my "argument" would be that if we are in a simulation, there are a very limited amount of facts that we could guess about the makers of the simulation. Even if inside our simulation it seems likely that we would be interested in creating ancestry simulations, this doesn't actually mean anything. I guess this means that I am for the option number 2, although it would have to be heavily re-written. I would not call it "posthuman", to begin with. It could literally be the mind of god. It could be one conscious being that is imagining life as a multitude. It could be in any kind of universe where consciousness is possible. I guess here Nick would say something like "the possibility it is human is a lot higher than that of being god" but I disagree. There is nothing that we can say about the possibility, since our idea of possibility comes from our interaction with the world we are in. This is where it is a tautology. Or maybe you could call it anthropomorphism on a meta-cosmic scale: "Since we are what we are, our possible creator has to be like us". It's a bit like if in Plato's cave you were to say that since we see these shadows, we can infer that there is a sun that is sending light through space and there has to be a three dimensional mammal in front of the sun. No. If you don't see the real world, it could be almost anything that is causing the wall to have these forms. It could be that the wall is changing color spontaneusly. It could be that the sun is on the other side of the wall and the wall is translucent. It could be that you have several eyes like a spider and the image is in fact a combination of overlapping images from several directions. The object could be a 3D mammal or a 7D fish. Or a 2D wall parasite. I find it very suspect that you could make predictions in such conditions. ------------------------------------------------------------------