Language Like Sex Extracted from discussion on RubyLanguage on WikiWikiWeb : HelpMe: I need a reliable language which lives in ordinary files and has good up-to-date libraries and (most importantly) good up-to-date web frameworks. Obviously RubyLanguage is the way to go. But having used IoLanguage a lot, and also played with SmalltalkLanguage, LispLanguage and IokeLanguage, RubyLanguage just seems BORING. Can anyone help me get really excited about it please? -- JasonGrossman It's like with sex - language is just a tool to achieve the goal. Ruby is top-quality, but you don't want to get too excited about machine tools. Sure, Makino Seiki tool grinder is cool, but do you need it? Can it pay for itself? Do you own a workshop? Do you have a product? Customers? Ruby is comfortable, but don't believe anyone who says it is easy. Achieving full command of its power takes months for geniuses, years for us ordinary people. Unless you are solving a very difficult problem, stick with those languages you already know, or PythonLanguage, which is catching up with Ruby comfort with every new release. It is not the machine beauty, but the problem you are solving that should excite you. If it doesn't, your gut might be telling you that you are trying to do something else than you really want. Search your soul and find a more attractive goal (not necessarily in the realm of computers), and you will love the tools that help you to achieve it. BorisStitnicky