thanks guys for the advice - I do appreciate it. I think I'm going to look to see i there is a video showing good stretches to do - I notice if I do simple stretches it allows me to do more - I just have to listen VERY CLOSELY to what my body's telling me 'cause JUST when I cross over the line, instant spasm that can last for a second or 15 minutes - and it's a LOOOOONG 15 minutes... "