Oh, being pro-Internet for education isn't anti-school. I just see them as complementary and education is going through some growing pains at present in trying to tie it together. I've spent my adult life on the 'net. Most of my higher education has been here. Been online since 1988... and there's hardly a subject I haven't discussed with somebody online at some point in time. There's many models for learning. The University system is one such system. The public library system is another. On the job training is another. The Internet is another. There's goods and bads in each of them, and I think they all serve a purpose. Yeah, I mean can you imagine _not_ having the Internet? Everybody you know would be the people at your home, in your town, at your school. That's about it. The things you know would be limited to what you can learn from family and friends and local teachers and the library. There's a lot there of course - and I'm not putting down family/friends/community/school... but I wouldn't be who I am today without the 'net, knowing what I know, interested in the things that interest me, doing the projects that I do. I've never stopped to think of the alternative; it's almost frightening to imagine. I probably should, as a thought experiment: What would I be doing if the 'net never existed? It's something I never considered. raised garden beds up a slope? awesome! How'd you do it? Do you have to cut into the hill and make retaining walls (with drainage hoses underneath) or is there another way? [I always like either learning something new or confirming... but I always prefer new ]