In short, I don't think there is such a thing as abstract
   things. They're real and measurable, as jots on a piece of
   paper, on a computer screen, spoken as words - and ultimately as
   jigglies of some kind within a human brain, which is in a body
   which is acting in the world.

   The separation between the two, I believe, is artificial. And
   yes, this does, in some sense, make everything real that we can
   conceive - in *some* fashion, because we're not conceiving of
   things from outside of this Universe but from within it.