[offtop] for my mean, this is objective theme, not subjective... soap Likcija (made in France) more best, than deutsche Dove... Bic more best, than Cricket (fire-start gadjet). This is mass-products fron streets. When Syoss start buying in later 00s, price was big, magazines was luxury, and people not believe new mark, but through years price stayed democratical, mass people use and stay believe this mark. Also interests Pantene pro-v, but in this moment not have believing for self, quality may be is non-stable. [/offtop]