/ _ \ | ||__ __| / /_\ \| | | _|___ __ / | | |___|/ | \____ ____ | | __ ____ __ _ \____|____| _____/ ~ \__ \ __\| |/ / __ | / \ Y / __ \ \__| <\ __/| | \__|__(_____/\___|__|__|\___\|__| http://www.althacker.org/ http://www.alt-hacker.org/ ####################################################################### My ideas were it is a faq, and not rules. Rules are carved in stone and in this ng we handle people on a case by case basis, so rules won't be effective here. -savant *********************************************************************** ### Section One: ### -(1)- How can I hack this web site/ server? -(2)- xxx passwd's? -(3)- Will you help me get back at this ass hole? AKA how do I hack a hacker? -(4)- How to hack hotmail, AOL, yahoo ...etc? -(5)- How do I get this persons passwd? -(6)- I need a credit card number. ### Section Two: ### -(1)- hacking t%lz; where can I get them, and how do I use them? -(2)- Will you teach me how to be a hacker? AKA will you teach me how to hack? -(3)- How do I start to become a hacker? ### Section Three: ### -(1)- What programming lang.'s should I learn? -(2)- What books do I need to read? -(3)- What projects can I help the hacker community with? Kind of an open source initiative. ### Section Four: ### -(1)- What is a hacker (as defined by the users of this ng)? -(2)- How is a hacker different than a cracker, or a script kiddie? ### Section Five: ### -(1)- What do I do if someone has hacked my passwd? -(2)- I think I've been hacked; what should I do now? ### Section Six: ### -(1)- Why should I use GNU/Linux, or Unix? AKA how is it better than Mac0s(9.x/X), or Windows(95/98/ME/NT/2k/XP)? -(2)- What is alt.hacker, and what is "on topic" when on this news group? *********************************************************************** -------------- ### Section One: ### -(1)- How can I hack this web site/ server? + On this ng we will not tell you how to break into web sites. We don't think it is right, and even if you think you have a good reason we won't help because it is off topic. If you still want to do it we may suggest doing a web search on the keywords your looking for, or looking into alt.cracks or some other type of ng. == -(2)- xxx passwd's? + We don't have any; you could do a keyword search by typing @ ulr: search then hit enter. == -(3)- Will you help me get back at this ass hole? AKA how do I hack a hacker? + Use some common sense! If somebody flames you on a hacker ng and you get mad who would be the last people you would want to ask? Answer: more hackers. In short, the answer to this question is NO, we will not help you get back at somebody by cracking his/her box. About getting help: The reality is, a lot of us (not all) do crack on odd occasions. If you tell a whole ng how somebody broke into your system what do you think they heard? Blah blah blah he hacked blah blah and this is how he did it. ... Which I haven't had a chance to fix yet ... We will tell you how to get them (the attacker) caught, how to track them (same) down, and even how to secure your box. What we will not help you do is to get into trouble. My mom used to tell me that: "The best revenge is to live well." == -(4)- How to hack hotmail, AOL, yahoo ...etc? + This is another no brainer. Do you really think we will tell you how to break into our mail accounts? Think if you can do it to one you can do it to them all. Right? About a million people read this ng daily; do you want them to read your mail too? No. *pssst* If you really want to hack hotmail ....SUBSCRIBE! Then you can get any password, login combination you want. == -(5)- How do I get this persons passwd? + Ask them for it. I'm sure they would be happy to tell you what it is ...after they go and change it. *See the section on hacking web sites/server. == -(6)- I need a credit card number. + Go hack a pamphlet! We all get about a hundred pamphlets in the mail in any given year. If you can't hack a pamphlet go hack a dictionary and then try again. == ### Section Two: ### -(1)- hacking t%lz; where can I get them, and how do I use them? + We won't discuss tools like this. We think they are un-ethical, and are offended people think this is what hacking is "ALL about". If you ask you may get the response that: try to write your own tool. This is because we believe that hacking is about learning and doing things your self. If you really want help with these types of tools got to a ng like: something.something.133t.scriptkiddz ....etc. Just don't expect much feedback. They almost don't know how to make them work any more than you do. == -(2)- Will you teach me how to be a hacker? AKA Will you teach me how to hack? + Some people have it in their mind that hacking is about breaking into web sites on the internet, or that hacking is like the movie hackers. That stuff is done, but hackers have a different name for it. We call it cracking. So no, we will not tell you how to crack. + Now that you know what we will not talk about you can understand why we can't tell you how to be a hacker. Either you are or you are not. Hacking is defined by a desire to learn about things, any thing. A hacker is so consumed by curiosity that you just can't help it. We can't tell you how to develop that kind of interest. There is no degree form Hack U. (university); no guide to guide you in this quest. No one can dub you Sir Hacker, and with that said a quote from a post to our ng. "Sure. Let me just pull out my trusty little hacker guide. (We each get a copy when we graduate to hacker, ya know.)" ...what's this..?... "Beware the individuals known as 'wannabes'. These creatures often lurk in usenet, in any newsgroups with the word "hack" in the name. They often post totally at random, with only one identifying pattern...their inability to write a post which does not have the words 'tell', 'me', and 'hack(er/ing/)' in close proximity. "Unfortunately for you, these poor ignorant souls do not realize the true nature of the Internet, and the immense amounts of information stored therein. They have no awareness of the ability to search the 'Net via sites like http://www.dogpile.com, http://www.mamma.com, http;//astalavista.box.sk, and others. They are unable to find sites the likes of http://www.l0pht.com, http://packetstorm.securify.com, or http://www.cotse.com . Nay, they will invariably assume that you exist solely to give others remedial information, and that you have been sitting in a newsgroup for years just in case someone might decide to step in to ask a stupid question." Well, damn. It looks like i can't help you. :) It's against the hacker secret by-laws and stuff. -- cHaoTiCa (tm) cha0tica at mindspring dot com. All rights reserved. *reproduced with the authors permission* == -(3)- How do I start to become a hacker? + If you got a `puter running well enough to read this FAQ then your on the way. Read a lot (and I mean _a lot_). The Internet is an incredible source of information. You can find almost anything. If you can't figure out how to learn to become a hacker with this kind of resource at your disposal then you should log your browser out of your porno site that's eating up your systems RAM by piling your screen full of "pop-ups" and point it to http://slashdot.org/ and read a while. The point of this exercise is to see your level of integrity in the face of this kind of overload of possible information & what you intend on doing with it. The next exercise is to point your browser at http://www.theregister.co.uk/ and get your daily dose of cynicism. :) Don't miss out on the BOFH while your there. Being a hacker is about thinking, and not just following the herd. Example: You know the emails that pop up in your email from time to time? The ones everybody calls spam. They always have the "if you don't want to get any more of these emails reply to blah blah blah with unsubscribe as the subject. What do you think happens? Do you think they really remove your address? Think again. They add it to their special subscription list to be sold (yes sold) to other companies as a valid, and working address for their unwanted advertisements. Now you learned two qualities of a hacker. == ### Section Three: ### -(1)- What programming lang.'s should I learn? + Start on something like C and work your way up from there. No matter what people say C is a great first lang. I know, it was mine. Mac OS 9 is written in pascal (not(!), but they seem to still need p/ strings?), assembly lang. (useful in debugging, but a massive project of it's self) & C/C++. (now for Mac OS X 10.0) Windows is primarily in C++, and Unix (the kernel) is written in C. AI is in lisp, or prolog. This is my own bias, but I think it might be a good idea to add Python to the list. It's a wonderful beginning language. -- Devin == -(2)- What books do I need to read? + [These were graciously provided by Digital Overdrive with some minor additions by me. Also with some added suggestions from a few other kind people.] Routers: - Introduction To Cisco Router Config - Cisco IOS Essentials Security and Firewalls: - Firewalls Complete - Handbook Of Info Security Management - Navy Network Security - Maximum Security - Upgrading and Repairing Networks - Building Linux & OpenBSD Firewalls (ISBN 0-471-35366-3) TCP/IP: - TCP/IP Illustrated Vols. 1,2,3 - W. Richard Stevens - Apache Server Survival Guide - Using Samba - TCP/IP Clearly Explained 3rd E. (ISBN 0-12-455826-7) Un*x: - UNIX Unleashed, Internet Edition - UNIX Unleashed, System Administrator's Edition - Windows NT Internet and Intranet Development - Linux System Administrator's Survival Guide - RedHat Linux Unleashed - Linux Command Reference - Linux System Administrators Survival Guide - Harley Hahn's Student Guide to Unix 2nd E. (ISBN 0-07-025492-3) - Windows NT Security Handbook (ISBN 0-07-882240-8) WindowsNT: - Windows NT4 Administrator's Survival Guide (ISBN 0-672-31008-2) Networking: - DNS & BIND (O'Reilly) - TCP/IP (O'Reilly) - Sendmail (O'Reilly) - Sendmail Desktop Ref (O'Reilly) - Internet Firewalls (O'Reilly) - UNIX & Internet Security (O'Reilly) - Client Server Computing [Second Edition] - How Intranets Work Programming C and C++: - The C Programming Language - Brian Kernighan & Dennis Ritchie - The C++ Programming Language - Bjarne Stroustroup The Complete Reference, C (ANSI) (ISBN 0-07-882101-0) - Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment - W. Richard Stevens - Unix Network Programming Vols. 1,2 - W. Richard Stevens - ANSI/ISO C++ Professional Programmer's Handbook - Linux Programming Unleashed (ISBN 0-672-31607-2) - You might also consider the FAQs for comp.lang.c and comp.lang.c++. Perl Books: - Perl 5 Complete (McGraw-Hill) - Perl 5 By Example - Programming Perl 5.0 CGi Web Pages - Perl 5 Unleashed - Using Perl for Web Programming - Perl Quick Reference - Web Programming With Perl 5 Java: - JFC Unleashed - Special Edition Using Java 1.1 - Java Programming Gurus - Intranet Applications with Java - Java 1.2 Unleashed - Java Expert Solutions - Using Java, Second Edition - Java Unleashed, Third Edition - Java Developer's Edition - Core Java Vols. 1,2 (ISBN 0-13-0809468-0) Hacking: - Hacking Exposed - The Hacker crackdown - Hackers Encyclopedia - Maximum Linux Security (ISBN 0-672-31670-6) General CGI: - Using CGI - CGI Developer's Guide - CGI Programming Unleashed Misc Programming/Web: - Visual Basic 6 Database How-To - Using Visual Basic 6 - Object-Oriented System Development - How to Use HTML 3.2 - Developing ActiveX Components with VB - ActiveX Unleashed == In due course, this list of books will be linked through to Amazon, but for now click here and help support us before you purchase the book(s). -(3)- What projects can I help the hacker community with? What about a kind of an open source initiative? + The commercialization of the internet. That's what a lot of real hackers are fighting. You invaded our playground that the U.S. Government and Military practically hand over to us (the public) and educational institutions to save the human race from becoming a race of idiots and give students the resource to learn. Now all the companies want to "Make Money" off the internet and the government has second thoughts about it and ask who's gonna pay for it! Woop-T-do! Fuck you! As for who's paying for the internet. I pay my fuckin' bill every month. -- guardian + In complete agreement. However the commercialization of the internet is helping it to develop even further. You either go with progress or get run over by it :-) -- Daemon + I might add these same corperations wanting to just plug up anything they want to the Internet with the expectation they can hire any idiot who wants a pay check. Then if there is a break in they intend to solve it in a courtroom instead of hiring more qualified help to realy prevent a break-in to their network. After they win the network it still vunerable, and ripe for the next courtroom incersion. This in fact should be criminal. The network should it's self be hardened before it is ever considered ready for Internet connection. If we know they intend to press charges, then they should be expeced nay compeled to prove before they are ever allowed connection to the global network that they are ready for such a responsibility. This is even more dire if they are entrusted by the public to protect the details of commercial transactions, and other such private information. -- de savant + GNU/Linux is always needing drivers for USB, PCMCIA, Firewire ...etc. Mozilla is very active right now, and so is the open source DVD projects. Their is an open voice over IP project. Emulators for all of our favorite video game consoles. These are not all GNU/Linux based either Mozilla even runs on Mac OS. The VoIP project is for Windows as well as other 0s'. Both GnuStep and the HURD are in need of programmers too. == ### Section Four: ### -(1a)- What is a hacker (as defined by the users of this ng)? -(1b)- Can someone please define me what is a hacker? I see these website claiming to be hacking groups, and I see are tools that I swore were tools of a cracker! Exploits I understand, but isn't it a hacker duty to help find a fix to an exploit or suggest how you can protect yourself. It is so sad now and day the word "hacker" "hacking" "hack" has been "Rapped" of its true meaning. Even I for myself am not sure what it means! So anyone here please define for me what is a TRUE hacker? -- ThyJok3r@aol.com + Answers from the web: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/hacker.html http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html + I think a hacker is what you are. It is NOT what you do, or can do ("if you wanted to"). It is seeing a problem and taking the high road to its solution. It is not like somebody can sit down and do what we do and become a hacker in a few hours. It is more than that. It is being able to jump from a strictly logical approach into an a-logical solution. "When all else fails go with what works." That's a hacker. Not starting up a few progs (you may or may not have written). It is the over whelming desire to learn like a consuming fire burning from within. It is apart of you, and is not defined by a few things you do every day. + I've had some time to think about this now, and I think a hacker is someone who learns a subject very well and is willing to share the fruits of that knowledge with others freely. They tend to have a high moral ethic, and a openness to help others. + Many in this newsgroup do subscribe to the thoughts that illegal actions are those of "crackers", but we don't seem to come to any agreement that a hacker is necessarily the other side of the law. To hack is to actually seek the unknown knowledge, but I don't think we have tried to tie hack completely into any particular use of that knowledge. There are crackers who are hackers and actually discover new holes. But most crackers nowadays seem to be nothing more than script-kiddies who have no idea what to do with a system after unpacking an exploit onto it. There are hackers on the side of law and order. There are hackers who pursue the knowledge for its own sake and the fun of the challenge even if they are only hacking their own computer. Here we tend to send crackers over to other newsgroups for obviously illegal questions and answers, but that doesn't mean that we are all the white-hat good-guys either. At the most we are... kind of hmmm.. cloak-and-dagger grey :) Informing people that they are trying to do something illegal is very correct for this newsgroup so if anyone doesn't want "smart asses with useless advice" then they need to try a newsgroup which is more appropriate such as alt.2600.crackz On the other hand, if the person shows an interest in figuring it out, we might help them. We need to probe and see whether this is a hacker request, or just someone wanting the final product. Seekers of the final product (hacked accounts, credit cards, free shit) we have other names for. Come here for knowledge, go there for answers. If you don't know the difference, go to AOL. -- Gandalf Parker *reproduced with the authors permission* == -(2)- How is a hacker different than a cracker, or a script kiddie? + One is not a duck. -- Devin Script Kiddies are worse in a way. They want to collect a bunch of pre-written scripts that will allow them to chalk up "kills" and claim what dangerous "hackers" they are. They only want a high score of sites and enough scripts to hurt anyone who makes them mad. They will probably never write such a script them self nor will they ever be hackers. -- Gandalf Parker *reproduced with the authors permission* == ### Section Five: ### -(1)- What do I do if someone has hacked (cracked) my passwd? + Change it. If it was on a network tell the sysadmin, or just send an email to root. == -(2)- I think I've been hacked; what should I do now? + Changing your password would be a good start. Backing up your personal files and reinstalling your operating system would be the next. Most users don't have the resources to do much more than this. They need a functional machine and don't have the know how needed to do much more than installing patches to keep their OS current. == ### Section Six: ### -(1)- Why should I use GNU/Linux, or Unix? AKA how is it better than Mac0s(9.x/X), or Windows(95/98/ME/NT/2k/XP)? + GNU/Linux & Unix are both multitasking & Multiuser operating systems. This means you can do more than a single thing on them at a time along with other users. Like making a new pgp key set, logging in as a different user and surfing the web at the same time. Windows(95/98/ME/XP) can't do this. You could do more than a single thing at once, but you will notice a slow down. Another good thing is that almost everything that you might need is free software or open source which is nice on your bottom line. This will also always be the programmer's 0s. Mac OS X is the same way. It's BSD. It's multiuser and multitasking. It has a new beautiful GUI! It'll bring a tear^H^H^H^Haqua to your eye. ;) I must say though I like to surf the web, play games (& emulators) and check my mail and read my ng's under this 0s because it is more fun. The down side for it being BSD is that it is bloated to hell and you need the latest and greatest Apple has to run it. You must know too that there are some things that will only work under Windows(95/98/ME/XP). Like some modems, printers, and other equipment & software simply because no one has written the drivers or ported the software yet. Windows(NT) is multitasking, but it crashes a lot. It has it's features though. It is a networking operating system like unix, but this is its only feature. It lacks a lot of the graphics & USB support that its non-networking(98) counter part has. Windows(2k) is multitasking (I would go for the server version if this is the 0s of choice for you. It will have more for you to learn.), but it still has one overwhelming weakness. Achilles heal if you will. It is not even open source let alone free software. Windows(XP) is (2k) with all the games and drivers from (98). It's still not free software, and even worse it's spyware as only MS could do it. GNU/Linux isn't perfect. It plays some mean games, it is a networking and multitasking operating system. Netscape [4.79] (its primary web browser) is still kinda unstable, and now outdated. Version 6 really sucks too since AOL/TW bought it. Note: Mozilla is now in a position to be the primary web browser for Linux and KDE's web/file manager is a close second. Linux has second to none networking tools, packet sniffers, portscanners, raid tools ...etc. It is also a server 0s. It has the best hard core code hacking tools like gcc, and emacs! Even Java is fully supported. Not everything is supported under this 0s (worth note here is the hardware is better supported than the people you will talk to. Companies will refuse to discuss anything with a user running this 0s. The sysadmin of my ISP assumed that if anything was wrong with my account it had to be the GNU/Linux I was running and not his servers. *it was his servers we found out later* The only thing that I can recommend is to know your GNU/Linux, and tell them: "You do your job and let me handle the GNU/Linux side of the issue. I can handle it." This is getting better by the day now. ) like I said it isn't perfect, but get this if it isn't YOU can change that. It is free software, and open source. It runs on almost any computer architecture. This is because it is open source. Somebody like you wanted it to run on their notebook computer and ported it over to RISC ISA, or wrote the PCMCIA drivers. GNU/Linux now supports USB. (2.4.1) It is the 0s I use to get "real" work done, like hacking out programs doing research on the web, or network trouble shooting. Update: A new mach based GNU system called "The HURD" (or just HURD) is starting to get interesting. Just like Mac OS X it has a mach (gnumach) core and a Unix-like interface. The GNUStep (derived from the OpenStep specification) is now also maturing rapidly into a very useable system GUI. It so happens this is the same type of UI that Apple's Mac OS X uses for It's Apple Aqua interface. Many programs that were written for GNUStep work just as you would expect them to after a X-compile on Mac OS X. All that is needed now is to work out the DGS (display postscript system) to work as the XDM system works now. That way it will be fully OpenStep compliant! =^) == -(2)- What is alt.hacker, and what is on topic when on this news group? + We will discuss almost anything. By almost I mean that we will not talk about ways that you can get into trouble. We don't want trolling, or working off other individuals vendetta's. Spam is also a strong no-no, but almost anything else goes. Within reason of course. == +--------------------+ | PLEASE DO NOT FEED | | THE TROLLS. | | THANK YOU. | | -- The Management | +--------------------+ | | | | O o | | | __\|/___=\| |/=_\|/____ /***************************************************************** * Let's not get nutz either. Lets keep them as informative * * (intellectual) and inoffensive as possible. ;) * * * * -savant * *****************************************************************/ Version info/changes: Posted by: de savant on Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:36:17 GMT Changed for reference to jargon file on 2002-09-04 by Bodo Eggert Slight updates done on restoration 01 Jan 2006 by Gandalf Parker