From lwj@cs.kun.nl Wed Sep 4 00:22 PDT 1991 Return-Path: Received: from [131.174.80.1] by weber.ucsd.edu (15.11/UCSDGENERIC.4) id AA12414 to bjones; Wed, 4 Sep 91 00:22:52 pdt Received: by wn1.sci.kun.nl (5.57/2.1) on NUNET id AA28672; Wed, 4 Sep 91 09:23:16 +0200 Received: from iris by cs.kun.nl (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA14064; Wed, 4 Sep 91 09:23:09 +0200 Received: by iris (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA00600; Wed, 4 Sep 91 09:23:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 91 09:23:08 +0200 From: lwj@cs.kun.nl Message-Id: <9109040723.AA00600@iris> To: bjones@weber.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: A real "kremvax"?? Newsgroups: news.admin References: <1991Sep3.152304.4000@network.ucsd.edu> X-IMAPbase: 1230225487 1 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 In news.admin you write: >I am on a number of maillists that include academics from the Soviet >Union. This morning I received the message below. Either someone >has no idea what happened on the net several years ago, or one hell >of a sense of humor. It is the latter. I include below a conversation that took place in comp.mail.misc some time ago. In short: kremvax exists, and its namers are quite aware of the 1984 joke. The conversation even includes the original 1984 forgery. Read and enjoy ! >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:00 1991 -- Luc Rooijakkers Internet: lwj@cs.kun.nl Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science UUCP: uunet!cs.kun.nl!lwj University of Nijmegen, the Netherlands tel. +3180652271 *** BEGIN INCLUDED NEW *** Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!bjork From: bjork@netcom.COM (Stephen Bjork) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> Date: 10 Jul 91 22:42:48 GMT Sender: bjork@netcom.COM (Stephen Bjork) Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services UNIX System {408 241-9760 guest} Lines: 25 Yes, folks, the long-thought-to-be-mythical kremvax really does exist... bjork@netcom%3 nslookup Default Server: netcomsv.netcom.com Address: 192.100.81.101 > set ty=any > kremvax.hq.demos.su. Server: netcomsv.netcom.com Address: 192.100.81.101 Non-authoritative answer: kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 100, mail exchanger = fuug.fi kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 120, mail exchanger = nac.no kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 200, mail exchanger = mcsun.eu.net Authoritative answers can be found from: fuug.fi inet address = 192.26.119.1 nac.no inet address = 129.240.2.40 mcsun.eu.net inet address = 192.16.202.1 SUNIC.SUNET.SE inet address = 192.36.125.2 SUNIC.SUNET.SE inet address = 130.237.216.2 NS.UU.NET inet address = 137.39.1.3 BROUILLY.INRIA.FR inet address = 128.93.8.4 MUNNARI.OZ.AU inet address = 128.250.1.21 >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:10 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!rutgers!soleil!mlb.semi.harris.com!mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com!john From: john@mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com (John M. Blasik) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul11.075423.25060@mlb.semi.harris.com> Date: 11 Jul 91 07:54:23 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> Sender: news@mlb.semi.harris.com Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL Lines: 19 Nntp-Posting-Host: mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com bjork@netcom.COM (Stephen Bjork) writes: > >Yes, folks, the long-thought-to-be-mythical kremvax really does exist... > ... >Non-authoritative answer: >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 100, mail exchanger = fuug.fi >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 120, mail exchanger = nac.no >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 200, mail exchanger = mcsun.eu.net yo 31> host gorbnext.kmart.demos.su gorbnext.kmart.demos.su mail is handled by fuug.fi gorbnext.kmart.demos.su mail is handled by nac.no gorbnext.kmart.demos.su mail is handled by mcsun.eu.net Something this fun must be evil. -- john >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:14 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!cs.kun.nl!lwj From: lwj@cs.kun.nl (Luc Rooijakkers) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Summary: No it doesn't Message-ID: <3766@wn1.sci.kun.nl> Date: 11 Jul 91 09:32:29 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> Sender: root@sci.kun.nl Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Lines: 24 In <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> bjork@netcom.COM (Stephen Bjork) writes: >Yes, folks, the long-thought-to-be-mythical kremvax really does exist... [writes nslookup command returning...] >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 100, mail exchanger = fuug.fi >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 120, mail exchanger = nac.no >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 200, mail exchanger = mcsun.eu.net This is the second time I see this, and I think a clarification would be in order. The su. zone has a *wildcard* MX record for demos (and a lot of other domains, for that matter), so a query for any domain xxx.demos.su will return the above MXes. So, while the above is true, it is no evidence of kremvax' existence. Neither is kremvax.sun.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = Sun.COM. :-) -- Luc Rooijakkers Internet: lwj@cs.kun.nl Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science UUCP: uunet!cs.kun.nl!lwj University of Nijmegen, the Netherlands tel. +3180652271 >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:16 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!news.funet.fi!fuug!nntp.hut.fi!usenet From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul11.124400.24297@nntp.hut.fi> Date: 11 Jul 91 12:44:00 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> <1991Jul11.075423.25060@mlb.semi.harris.com> Sender: usenet@nntp.hut.fi (Usenet pseudouser id) Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 14 In-Reply-To: john@mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com (John M. Blasik) Nntp-Posting-Host: sauna.cs.hut.fi In article <1991Jul11.075423.25060@mlb.semi.harris.com>, john@mintaka (John M. Blasik) writes: >>Yes, folks, the long-thought-to-be-mythical kremvax really does exist... >> >.... >>Non-authoritative answer: >>kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 100, mail exchanger = fuug.fi >>kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 120, mail exchanger = nac.no >>kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 200, mail exchanger = mcsun.eu.net This doesn't prove anything since it's just a wildcard MX record, but I hear the guys at demos really have a machine named 'kremvax'. But I don't think it's at Kreml, though Kreml can be seen from the window. //Jyrki >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:32 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!gatech!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!geomag!zateslo From: zateslo@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Ted Zateslo) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul11.133332.21162@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 11 Jul 91 13:33:32 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> <1991Jul11.075423.25060@mlb.semi.harris.com> Sender: news@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Usenet News File Owner) Organization: Florida State University Geology Dept. Lines: 28 Nntp-Posting-Host: geomag.gly.fsu.edu Kremvax really does exist. It's a Microvax II at DEMOS, the organization that administers RELCOM, the Soviet UUCP network. We get mail relayed through it frequently. Here is a sample header: >From demos!samarin.public.su!sam@fuug.fi Wed Jul 3 03:25:44 1991 Return-Path: Received: from fuug.fi by geomag.gly.fsu.edu with SMTP (5.65/31geomag) id AA04160; Wed, 3 Jul 91 03:25:38 -0400 Received: by fuug.fi id AA25918 (5.65+/IDA-1.3.5 for zateslo@geomag.gly.fsu.edu); Wed, 3 Jul 91 10:25:13 +0300 Received: by kremvax.hq.demos.su; Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:57:38 +0300 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Received: by relcom; Wed, 3 Jul 91 08:45:54 +0300 (GMT+3:00) Received: by samarin.public.su (UUPC/@ Release 2.01/03Feb91); Tue, 02 Jul 1991 14:18:46 MSD To: broedel@geomag.gly.fsu.edu, zateslo@geomag.gly.fsu.edu Message-Id: Organization: Sam, Krasnodar, USSR ~From: sam@samarin.public.su (Samarin A M) ~Date: Tue, 2 Jul 91 14:18:45 +0200 (MSD) ~Subject: jul2 Letter No 39 from Krasnodar Status: RO Dmitry Volodin, the system administrator at DEMOS, has a nice sense of humor -- and he knows his Usenet lore... -Ted Zateslo, FSU Geology Department zateslo@geomag.gly.fsu.edu >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:40 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!uunet!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!fuat From: fuat@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Fuat C. Baran) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul11.135012.21935@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Date: 11 Jul 91 13:50:12 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> Reply-To: fuat@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Fuat C. Baran) Organization: Columbia University Center for Computing Activities Lines: 30 In article <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> bjork@netcom.COM (Stephen Bjork) writes: > >Yes, folks, the long-thought-to-be-mythical kremvax really does exist... > >bjork@netcom%3 nslookup >Default Server: netcomsv.netcom.com >Address: 192.100.81.101 > >> set ty=any >> kremvax.hq.demos.su. >Server: netcomsv.netcom.com >Address: 192.100.81.101 > >Non-authoritative answer: >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 100, mail exchanger = fuug.fi >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 120, mail exchanger = nac.no >kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 200, mail exchanger = mcsun.eu.net ... I doubt it. You're getting a mail exchanger because of wildcard MX's. Any hostname *.demos.su (try foobar.hq.demos.su, xyzzy.plugh.demos.su, or anything else) is MX'ed to those three hosts. --Fuat Internet: fuat@columbia.edu U.S. MAIL: Columbia University BITNET: fuat@cunixc Center for Computing Activities UUCP: ...!rutgers!columbia!cunixf!fuat 712 Watson Labs, 612 W115th St. Phone: (212) 854-5128 Fax: (212) 662-6442 New York, NY 10025 >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:48 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!rickert From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul11.140644.18448@mp.cs.niu.edu> Date: 11 Jul 91 14:06:44 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> <1991Jul11.075423.25060@mlb.semi.harris.com> <1991Jul11.124400.24297@nntp.hut.fi> Organization: Northern Illinois University Lines: 28 >This doesn't prove anything since it's just a wildcard MX record, but Please stop this silly bickering about whether this is only a wildcard MX, or whether kremvax really exists. Just to put matters to rest, here is a real live mail header. ------------------------- Received: from fuug.fi by mp.cs.niu.edu with SMTP id AA14884 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.4 for ); Tue, 25 Jun 1991 05:32:25 -0500 Received: by fuug.fi id AA11167 (5.65+/IDA-1.3.5 for rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu); Tue, 25 Jun 91 13:28:55 +0300 ***---> Received: by kremvax.hq.demos.su; Tue, 25 Jun 91 13:11:23 +0300 From: dvv@hq.demos.su (Dmitry V. Volodin) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 91 13:11:23 +0300 Message-Id: <9106251011.AA01294@kremvax.hq.demos.su> To: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu Subject: Re: IDA Sendmail on Sun bounce mail not imm. deliverable Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail References: <1991Jun24.150150.2148@mthvax.cs.miami.edu> <1991Jun24.160901.23028@mp.cs.niu.edu> Return-Receipt-To: dvv@hq.demos.su -- | METROPOLITAN LIFE! The roach motel of insurance. Neil Rickert | Premiums check in, but benefits don't check out. Computer Science | Northern Illinois U. | ---> 7 months of harrassment and deception <--- >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:54:59 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-state.edu!purdue!haven.umd.edu!uvaarpa!murdoch!fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU!mer6g From: mer6g@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU (Marc Rouleau) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul11.102651@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: 11 Jul 91 14:26:51 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> <3766@wn1.sci.kun.nl> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Reply-To: marc@Virginia.EDU Organization: UVa Academic Computing Lines: 65 lwj@cs.kun.nl (Luc Rooijakkers) writes: >bjork@netcom.COM (Stephen Bjork) writes: > >>kremvax.hq.demos.su preference = 100, mail exchanger = fuug.fi > >[...] while the above is true, it is no evidence of kremvax' existence. How 'bout this message I received a month ago? Note the third Received: header. Looks authentic to me ... ******************************************************************** Received: from fuug.fi by fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU id aa11708; 11 Jun 91 6:26 EDT Received: by fuug.fi id AA16031 (5.65+/IDA-1.3.5 for mer6g@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU); Tue, 11 Jun 91 13:23:51 +0300 Received: by kremvax.hq.demos.su; Tue, 11 Jun 91 10:10:07 +0300 Received: by jumbo; Tue, 11 Jun 91 10:40:23 MSD To: 4ad-l@phuvm.bitnet, abbott@ms.uky.edu, bm17+@andrew.cmu.edu, brode@icpsr.umich.edu, burnett@mentor.cc.purdue.edu, ceremony-request@chsun1.uchicago.edu, com@spacsun.rice.edu, ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU, dalton@caf.MIT.EDU, datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu, dave.bbs@shark.cs.fau.edu, drdave@buhub.bradley.edu, erc@radon.berkeley.edu, ez000018@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu, germuska@casbah.acns.nwu.edu, go09+@andrew.cmu.edu, HART@vtmath.math.vt.edu, jcr1@ra.MsState.edu, jj1w+@andrew.cmu.edu, luljak@csd4.uwm.edu, mcb@presto.ig.com, mer6g@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU, mk.lor@forsythe.stanford.edu, msentell@tjhsst.vak12ed.edu, npr@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, otten@cincom.umd.edu, papakhi@iubvm.ucs.indiana.edu, pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com, pd@cs.qmw.ac.uk, prince@rpi.edu, rickh@metaware.com, roy@maxine.wpi.edu, rswanson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu, shin@WYSTAN.BSD.UCHICAGO.EDU, swann@acsu.buffalo.edu, tec1@ra.MsState.edu, tjw@unix.cis.pitt.edu, trc@pollux.ucdavis.edu, tv87098@tut.fi, ucskrt@uwplatt.edu, valerie@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, wisner@ims.alaska.edu Message-Id: Organization: Demos ~From: Pasha Hodakov ~Date: Tue, 11 Jun 91 10:40:21 +0300 (MSD) Return-Receipt-To: pasha@hq.demos.su (Pasha A. Hodakov) ~Subject: Help request Status: OR Hello! Beforehand, I'm sorry for my letter and my bad english. Now I try to make national music-server. I would be glad to get from you some information about group(s) that you introduce. I'm interested in discography, Lyrics (if it possible), Reviews, History and especially in GIF's images of it. If you can't send me so much information please write to me how I can get it (through anonymous FTP, for instance). Notice, that I havn't direct connection with Internet, because the first way is more preferablely. Thanks in advance. -- Pasha A. Hodakov DEMOS, Moscow, USSR INET: pasha@hq.demos.su Voice: +7 095 2312129 Fax: +7 095 2335016 ******************************************************************** >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:55:10 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma!grahamt From: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <5549@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Date: 12 Jul 91 13:41:23 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> Organization: SPRU, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, UK Lines: 25 >From article <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM>, by bjork@netcom.COM (Stephen Bjork): > > Yes, folks, the long-thought-to-be-mythical kremvax really does exist... > >> kremvax.hq.demos.su. > Server: netcomsv.netcom.com > Address: 192.100.81.101 People from the DEMOS organisation have been writing to the net for a while now (maybe a year, but I could be wrong). Some of them - I remember Vadim Antonov - were eager contributors to alt.folklore.computer and I know that other people were telling them about the kremvax April Fool of a few years ago. My guess is that they thought it was such a good joke that they renamed one of their computers to kremvax. Sorry, I didn't keep Vadim's address, so unless someone posts it we won't be able to ask him about it (or might there be a postmaster@kremvax ID?) Graham -- Graham Thomas, SPRU, Mantell Building, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9RF, UK Email: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk Phone: +44 273 678165 Fax: +44 273 685865 >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:55:50 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!unido!unidui!math.fu-berlin.de!ox.com!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucsd!brian From: brian@ucsd.Edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Summary: a blast from the past Message-ID: <37313@ucsd.Edu> Date: 12 Jul 91 18:23:18 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> <5549@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Lines: 56 >From sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!mcvax!moskvax!kremvax!chernenko Sun Apr 1 11:02:52 1984 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdccsu3.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 4/1/83 (SU840401); site kremvax.UUCP Path: sdccsu3!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!mcvax!moskvax!kremvax!chernenko ~From: chernenko@kremvax.UUCP ~Newsgroups: net.general,net.politics ~Subject: USSR on Usenet Message-ID: <0001@kremvax.UUCP> ~Date: Sun, 1-Apr-84 11:02:52 PST Date-Received: Mon, 2-Apr-84 17:02:53 PST Organization: MIIA, Moscow ~Lines: 41 <.....> Well, today, 840401, this is at last the Socialist Union of Soviet Republics joining the Usenet network and saying hallo to everybody. One reason for us to join this network has been to have a means of having an open discussion forum with the American and European people and making clear to them our strong efforts towards attaining peaceful coexistence between the people of the Soviet Union and those of the United States and Europe. We have been informed that on this network many people have given strong anti-Russian opinions, but we believe they have been misguided by their leaders, especially the American administration, who is seeking for war and domination of the world. By well informing those people from our side we hope to have a possibility to make clear to them our intentions and ideas. Some of those in the Western world, who believe in the truth of what we say have made possible our entry on this network; to them we are very grateful. We hereby invite you to freely give your comments and opinions. Here are the data for our backbone site: Name: moskvax Organization: Moscow Institute for International Affairs Contact: K. Chernenko Phone: +7 095 840401 Postal-Address: Moscow, Soviet Union Electronic-Address: mcvax!moskvax!kremvax!chernenko News: mcvax kremvax kgbvax Mail: mcvax kremvax kgbvax And now, let's open a flask of Vodka and have a drink on our entry on this network. So: NA ZDAROVJE! -- K. Chernenko, Moscow, USSR ...{decvax,philabs}!mcvax!moskvax!kremvax!chernenko >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:56:03 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!uunet!math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz!mailszrz!elsn4000 From: elsn4000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Frank Elsner) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <841@mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de> Date: 15 Jul 91 07:19:00 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> <5549@syma.sussex.ac.uk> Sender: news@mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de Organization: Technical University of Berlin Lines: 37 Nntp-Posting-Host: mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de In article <5549@syma.sussex.ac.uk> grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) writes: >Sorry, I didn't keep Vadim's address, so unless someone posts it we >won't be able to ask him about it (or might there be a >postmaster@kremvax ID?) In reply to this mail # Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 11:24:15 MEZ # From: elsn4000@w107zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Frank Elsner) # To: postmaster@kremvax.hq.demos.su # Subject: Test from Berlin # # This is a test for connectivity. # Please send a short reply to: elsner@zrz.tu-berlin.de # # Frank Elsner (TUBerlin/ZRZ Postmaster) I got the answer # From demos!hq.demos.su!avg@fuug.fi Sat Jun 8 05:40:08 1991 # Received: by fuug.fi id AA26384 # (5.65+/IDA-1.3.5 for elsn4000@w107zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de); Fri, 7 Jun 91 20:57:26 +0300 # Received: by kremvax.hq.demos.su; Fri, 7 Jun 91 19:31:03 +0300 # Received: by avg386; Fri, 7 Jun 91 19:30:58 MSD # To: elsn4000@w107zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Frank Elsner) # References: <9106071024.AA23349@w107zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de> # Message-Id: # Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR # From: avg@hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) # Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 19:30:57 +0300 (MSD) # Subject: Re: Test From Berlin # # [ ... stuff deleted ... ] Refer to the "To: " line of my mail and to the "From: " line of the reply. Frank Elsner (TUBerlin/ZRZ, Postmaster) >From comp.mail.misc Tue Jul 23 09:57:33 1991 Path: sci.kun.nl!hp4nl!mcsun!news.funet.fi!fuug!demos!avg From: avg@hq.demos.su (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: kremvax exists! Message-ID: <1991Jul16.194635.4455@hq.demos.su> Date: 16 Jul 91 19:46:35 GMT References: <1991Jul10.224248.20696@netcom.COM> <1991Jul11.075423.25060@mlb.semi.harris.com> <1991Jul11.124400.24297@nntp.hut.fi> Organization: DEMOS, Moscow, USSR Lines: 38 >In article <1991Jul11.075423.25060@mlb.semi.harris.com>, john@mintaka (John M. Blasik) writes: >>>Yes, folks, the long-thought-to-be-mythical kremvax really does exist... Yes, it does (and responds to characters I'm typing into :-). It's a real uVAX ][ with 8Mb RAM, 2Gb of disk space, 21 2400 bps MNP-5 modems (try +7 095 2330062 if you don't believe me), 3 T2500s (one for city phone exchange, one for ISKRA phone network, one serves the leased line to CC of Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy) and one Racal-Milgo Alpha I at the leased line to InterEVM; and a connection to internal DEMOS LAN over thin Ethernet. The operating system at this uVAX is DEMOS-32/V (merged together early DEMOS-32, BSD 4.3 and 4.3-reno TCP/IP). It's IP address is 192.91.186.8, though it's useless for you :-( and it really runs .SU nameserver. I hope it'll be replaced with SunServer 4/330 called "kremlsun". The history of Piet Beertema's joke is well known. We choosed the "historical" name because this VAX was turned on at his new place at DEMOS at the 1st April 1991 (hm, could you call it by other name if you were me?) I think it deserves this name because it works as EUnet backbone for Soviet Union - not a light load (sometimes la shows 12.0 and more). In <1991Jul11.124400.24297@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes: >I don't think it's at Kreml, though Kreml can be seen from the window. It's surely not in Kremlin but Kremlin is seen though the window :-) Apparntly it the nearest to Kremlin VAX. The name "kgbvax" is still reserved for Kruchkov's guys; though they haven't asked us for it. We have a lot of strange places in the net but seems they do not interest in networking. Cheers (cannot send a flack of vodka over USENET :-( )! Vadim Antonov DEMOS, Moscow, USSR *** END INCLUDED NEWS ***