============================================================ so i finally did it. i put a mail server together last night and was able to send emails to other external addresses. however, i did put myself in a strange position where the emails weren't making it to my inbox; and i know that it has something to do with dovecot. i defaulted to mbox because it was the least complicated to set up. after a bit of tweaking this morning I was able to resolve that issue. i got the chance to teach a very special person how to ssh into a *nix box and to navigate around the folders. i even taught them how to create files with nano as well as view the file modes that get output when running ls -al. they were really thrilled to learn all this new stuff. eventually their attention span wore out and i finished up our impromptu lesson. afterwards, i quickly set up a local email system so that way we can practice using terminal mail clients locally. i was proud of how well they seemed to receive the new info despite how quick everything was progressing. i feel like they are going to give me a run for my money as they get more experience with it. who knows, i might even have them admin my systems ;) ============================================================