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Command: SEARCH (KEYWORD) % Searching on avoyager ............TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: monitoring 'top' DATE: 24-Dec-04 01:04:03 HOST: sverige PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 19659 mrbigjas 72 4 1216K 2536K RUN 28.3H 94.68% 94.68% mutt something wrong here? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Political Appointees DATE: 02-Sep-05 11:57:43 HOST: sverige Political Appointees have only one talent: the ability to say many nice things about those who don't deserve it. ... and maybe also fundraising. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Political Appointees DATE: 02-Sep-05 11:57:43 HOST: sverige Political Appointees have only one talent: the ability to say many nice things about those who don't deserve it. ... and maybe also fundraising. .....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Sanders' Recommendations DATE: 14-May-05 17:11:51 HOST: sverige http://www.sandersresearch.com/Sanders/NewsManager/showGoodBooks.aspx?CategoryID=185 This one caught my eye: "Indispensable Enemies: The Politics of Misrule in America" "If one was to read one book in one's life on modern American politics, this ought to be it. It is simply the most rational, readable and sensible deconstruction of the logic of the American political system we have come across. To understand how and why the two party system is in fact a one party system you will find no finer source." [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Sanders' Recommendations DATE: 14-May-05 17:11:51 HOST: sverige http://www.sandersresearch.com/Sanders/NewsManager/showGoodBooks.aspx?CategoryID=185 This one caught my eye: "Indispensable Enemies: The Politics of Misrule in America" "If one was to read one book in one's life on modern American politics, this ought to be it. It is simply the most rational, readable and sensible deconstruction of the logic of the American political system we have come across. To understand how and why the two party system is in fact a one party system you will find no finer source." ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: show your pride DATE: 12-Sep-05 12:06:06 HOST: sverige A plea to those Americans who still love, honor, and obey their misleader in chief, ... Please pronounce for the rest of us, those things which your government has accomplished under Bush/Delay which you and fellow citizens of the country and the world can be really proud of. No fantasies about what he tells you he's doing, but real stuff which has actually happened, to which you can look back and feel pride and confidence. Good luck, and thank you. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: show your pride DATE: 12-Sep-05 12:06:06 HOST: sverige A plea to those Americans who still love, honor, and obey their misleader in chief, ... Please pronounce for the rest of us, those things which your government has accomplished under Bush/Delay which you and fellow citizens of the country and the world can be really proud of. No fantasies about what he tells you he's doing, but real stuff which has actually happened, to which you can look back and feel pride and confidence. Good luck, and thank you. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: register your disgust DATE: 12-Sep-05 12:10:49 HOST: sverige following on the "pride" board, it would be only fair to also accept listings of those accomplishments of the Junior Bush regime for which you do not feel pride and confidence; things which might even be shameful. In both boards, anon posting has been enabled to encourage honest contributions, not reckless non-contributing abuse. Thank you. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: register your disgust DATE: 12-Sep-05 12:10:49 HOST: sverige following on the "pride" board, it would be only fair to also accept listings of those accomplishments of the Junior Bush regime for which you do not feel pride and confidence; things which might even be shameful. In both boards, anon posting has been enabled to encourage honest contributions, not reckless non-contributing abuse. Thank you. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: bias admission DATE: 12-Sep-05 16:23:12 HOST: sverige Yes, David, I admit to having reached an opinion on this matter. I don't make this board because I'm clueless about this topic; and I do not support Clintons, either of them, or Kerry, or any other war-monger. I find the lifelong record of George Junior to be one of miserable failure, in every way, and amazingly, without exception. I made this board to solicit contrary persepctives, those which are based upon fact, not fantasy; and I don't really see anything wrong or misleading in that. Thanks for caring, [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: bias admission DATE: 12-Sep-05 16:23:12 HOST: sverige Yes, David, I admit to having reached an opinion on this matter. I don't make this board because I'm clueless about this topic; and I do not support Clintons, either of them, or Kerry, or any other war-monger. I find the lifelong record of George Junior to be one of miserable failure, in every way, and amazingly, without exception. I made this board to solicit contrary persepctives, those which are based upon fact, not fantasy; and I don't really see anything wrong or misleading in that. Thanks for caring, TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: sacrifice DATE: 03-Aug-05 23:15:49 HOST: sverige from the ANON board ... >>a) You cannot know what people "believe"... only what they do. Flawed as we huma ns are most of the time the two aren't the same, although you should ideally (like in the Saints) infer one from the other. As it happens, the "natural human" does indeed behave differently from what they [profess to] belive; they're politically correct, nice and polite, deceptive, deceitful, insincere, and the like. These are examples of ways in which we are capable of professing that which we do not believe; or in other vocabularies, believe what we do not will. >>b) "the vast majority" - how many Christians have you asked about their beliefs? I know this is fairly offhand, but "vast majority" is very misleading. point conceeded. There is fortunately a substantial variety of Christian. I am one; I have discoursed with hundreds; I have heard and read hundreds of others. >I guess the point you're trying to make is one about hypocrisy, and not living what you preach. I'll offer the modification that, yes, hypocrisy is what irritates me the most. I don't care if somebody is of any religion, or even no religion; but I detest hypocrisy, which I find abundant in the loudest self-proclaiming Christians to whom are provided a broadcasted and distributed public voice in America. Back to the original question of "sacrifice", I refer also to the "died for our sins" mantra in grokking the "excuse not to live by" statement from the original thread; together with the hypocrisy of course :) the Divine message of all religions, and of considerable academic research, and common sense, is ... Peace and Love, --Avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: sacrifice DATE: 03-Aug-05 23:15:49 HOST: sverige from the ANON board ... >>a) You cannot know what people "believe"... only what they do. Flawed as we huma ns are most of the time the two aren't the same, although you should ideally (like in the Saints) infer one from the other. As it happens, the "natural human" does indeed behave differently from what they [profess to] belive; they're politically correct, nice and polite, deceptive, deceitful, insincere, and the like. These are examples of ways in which we are capable of professing that which we do not believe; or in other vocabularies, believe what we do not will. >>b) "the vast majority" - how many Christians have you asked about their beliefs? I know this is fairly offhand, but "vast majority" is very misleading. point conceeded. There is fortunately a substantial variety of Christian. I am one; I have discoursed with hundreds; I have heard and read hundreds of others. >I guess the point you're trying to make is one about hypocrisy, and not living what you preach. I'll offer the modification that, yes, hypocrisy is what irritates me the most. I don't care if somebody is of any religion, or even no religion; but I detest hypocrisy, which I find abundant in the loudest self-proclaiming Christians to whom are provided a broadcasted and distributed public voice in America. Back to the original question of "sacrifice", I refer also to the "died for our sins" mantra in grokking the "excuse not to live by" statement from the original thread; together with the hypocrisy of course :) the Divine message of all religions, and of considerable academic research, and common sense, is ... Peace and Love, --Avo ......TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Humvee computer case DATE: 11-Aug-05 00:09:34 HOST: sverige http://www.stormeren.dk/article_view.php?id=63 this article describes the process with 115 photos. It's a 12MB document. Do I need to repeat or emphasize that? 12 MegaBytes I recommend wget the page with images, and view locally. This requires capturing the php generated html file, and globally replacing the paths to the images, but you can do it. One more thing. As replies hereto will testify, ... it's worth it. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Humvee computer case DATE: 11-Aug-05 00:09:34 HOST: sverige http://www.stormeren.dk/article_view.php?id=63 this article describes the process with 115 photos. It's a 12MB document. Do I need to repeat or emphasize that? 12 MegaBytes I recommend wget the page with images, and view locally. This requires capturing the php generated html file, and globally replacing the paths to the images, but you can do it. One more thing. As replies hereto will testify, ... it's worth it. ........TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Unix Trail Legend DATE: 09-Nov-05 18:03:32 HOST: sverige Frankly, I didn't know what else to call it; or where else to put it; but I trust you'll enjoy it. http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html (but can you print it?) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Unix Trail Legend DATE: 09-Nov-05 18:03:32 HOST: sverige Frankly, I didn't know what else to call it; or where else to put it; but I trust you'll enjoy it. http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html (but can you print it?) ..........TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: infinite undelete DATE: 01-May-05 16:33:26 HOST: sverige http/www.google-watch.org/gmail.html Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of time. After 180 days in the U.S., email messages lose their status as a protected communication under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, and become just another database record. This means that a subpoena instead of a warrant is all that's needed to force Google to produce a copy. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: infinite undelete DATE: 01-May-05 16:33:26 HOST: sverige http/www.google-watch.org/gmail.html Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of time. After 180 days in the U.S., email messages lose their status as a protected communication under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, and become just another database record. This means that a subpoena instead of a warrant is all that's needed to force Google to produce a copy. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Groups and Yahoo DATE: 11-Aug-05 15:12:15 HOST: sverige I'm not inclined to subscribe to groups.google, and so am asking those who are, what they might see of a formal relationship between groups.google and groups.yahoo. Are they merged? borged? redundant? what? Are there hostilities? competition? what? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Groups and Yahoo DATE: 11-Aug-05 15:12:15 HOST: sverige I'm not inclined to subscribe to groups.google, and so am asking those who are, what they might see of a formal relationship between groups.google and groups.yahoo. Are they merged? borged? redundant? what? Are there hostilities? competition? what? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: personalized homepages DATE: 21-May-05 01:13:11 HOST: sverige http://www.google.com/ig mo'big'bro? who'd'ya'trust? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: personalized homepages DATE: 21-May-05 01:13:11 HOST: sverige http://www.google.com/ig mo'big'bro? who'd'ya'trust? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Google goes to Washington DATE: 21-May-05 01:54:06 HOST: sverige "The Mountain View, Calif.-based search engine giant has hired Dan Senor as vice president of global communications and strategy. Senor was the chief spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and senior adviser to U.S. Ambassador Paul Bremer." I guess he needed a job. http://www.bizjournals.com/industries/high_tech/e_commerce/2005/05/16/washington_story3.html?page=1 "Google employees have met with at least one area tech company to discuss joint federal work, and a Google search of the company's offices (on www.google.com) shows a location in Vienna, where a separate company hosts and serves Google's Internet traffic." [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Google goes to Washington DATE: 21-May-05 01:54:06 HOST: sverige "The Mountain View, Calif.-based search engine giant has hired Dan Senor as vice president of global communications and strategy. Senor was the chief spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and senior adviser to U.S. Ambassador Paul Bremer." I guess he needed a job. http://www.bizjournals.com/industries/high_tech/e_commerce/2005/05/16/washington_story3.html?page=1 "Google employees have met with at least one area tech company to discuss joint federal work, and a Google search of the company's offices (on www.google.com) shows a location in Vienna, where a separate company hosts and serves Google's Internet traffic." TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Google's Own Private Internet DATE: 21-Sep-05 23:02:28 HOST: sverige quoting http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/1106 Google is building a network so massive that several service provider specialists believe it could end up with one of the world's largest core transport networks, effectively building its own private Internet. "This is huge," says Hunter Newby, chief strategy officer with carrier connection specialist Telx, pointing to several recent indications of the Google network's scale. "It's scary. They're not fooling around." [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Google's Own Private Internet DATE: 21-Sep-05 23:02:28 HOST: sverige quoting http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/1106 Google is building a network so massive that several service provider specialists believe it could end up with one of the world's largest core transport networks, effectively building its own private Internet. "This is huge," says Hunter Newby, chief strategy officer with carrier connection specialist Telx, pointing to several recent indications of the Google network's scale. "It's scary. They're not fooling around." TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Web of Deceit DATE: 25-Jul-05 14:35:04 HOST: sverige "companies such as Google are in a strategic position to become front men for mainstream corporate Internet. This financially prosperous dot com, which now rivals Time Warner in net worth, has advertising relations with Verizon and partnerships with companies such as News Corp. There have also been a number of documented instances in which Google has engaged in questionable censorship practices. It is therefore no stretch to imagine this company taking its place as gatekeeper of a government-friendly mainstream corporate Internet." http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/193 The lengthy article discusses the complicity of the FCC (of course) and also of the U.S. Supreme Court, and mainstream corporate media empires. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Web of Deceit DATE: 25-Jul-05 14:35:04 HOST: sverige "companies such as Google are in a strategic position to become front men for mainstream corporate Internet. This financially prosperous dot com, which now rivals Time Warner in net worth, has advertising relations with Verizon and partnerships with companies such as News Corp. There have also been a number of documented instances in which Google has engaged in questionable censorship practices. It is therefore no stretch to imagine this company taking its place as gatekeeper of a government-friendly mainstream corporate Internet." http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/193 The lengthy article discusses the complicity of the FCC (of course) and also of the U.S. Supreme Court, and mainstream corporate media empires. ............TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: paging in helpdesk DATE: 10-Nov-05 01:42:16 HOST: sverige for me, at this time, there is no paging in helpdesk; and there are a couple items (tickets) there for which I cannot see the original question. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: paging in helpdesk DATE: 10-Nov-05 01:42:16 HOST: sverige for me, at this time, there is no paging in helpdesk; and there are a couple items (tickets) there for which I cannot see the original question. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: good one DATE: 11-Jun-05 14:31:25 HOST: sverige posted to helpdesk: paraphrasing, ... Hi. I'm brand new here and don't know what I'm doing, but your (e.g. the mail system) is broken and I'd like you to fix it for me please. Soon. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: good one DATE: 11-Jun-05 14:31:25 HOST: sverige posted to helpdesk: paraphrasing, ... Hi. I'm brand new here and don't know what I'm doing, but your (e.g. the mail system) is broken and I'd like you to fix it for me please. Soon. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: email failing ? DATE: 29-Jul-05 18:35:30 HOST: sverige I get a lot of these bounces after responding in helpdesk. Deferred: Connection refused by ukato.freeshell [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: email failing ? DATE: 29-Jul-05 18:35:30 HOST: sverige I get a lot of these bounces after responding in helpdesk. Deferred: Connection refused by ukato.freeshell ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Shit - trac even broke MOTD DATE: 29-Apr-05 12:32:58 HOST: sverige I though that after motd had been cleared, it signified that the trac installation was completed. Then I discovered that irssi is missing and that sshd isn't accepting connections as well as it used to. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Shit - trac even broke MOTD DATE: 29-Apr-05 12:32:58 HOST: sverige I though that after motd had been cleared, it signified that the trac installation was completed. Then I discovered that irssi is missing and that sshd isn't accepting connections as well as it used to. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Foreign Media Reaction DATE: 10-Dec-05 21:16:04 HOST: sverige on Iceland ... /tmp/Foreign_Media_Reaction.tar.gz lots of content there for you to examine; grep; play textfile games with to exercise the new array. "Each business day, the U.S. Department of State's Office of Research produces an Issue Focus of foreign media commentary on a major foreign policy issue or related event. These reports provide a global round-up of editorials and op-ed commentary from major newspapers, magazines and broadcast media around the world. Following a one-page analysis of the commentary, readers will find block quotes sorted by geographic region and country. An Issue Focus normally covers one to three weeks of editorial opinion." This product was very recently discontinued. Here is the only archive of which I am aware. Thanks for supporting SDF. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Foreign Media Reaction DATE: 10-Dec-05 21:16:04 HOST: sverige on Iceland ... /tmp/Foreign_Media_Reaction.tar.gz lots of content there for you to examine; grep; play textfile games with to exercise the new array. "Each business day, the U.S. Department of State's Office of Research produces an Issue Focus of foreign media commentary on a major foreign policy issue or related event. These reports provide a global round-up of editorials and op-ed commentary from major newspapers, magazines and broadcast media around the world. Following a one-page analysis of the commentary, readers will find block quotes sorted by geographic region and country. An Issue Focus normally covers one to three weeks of editorial opinion." This product was very recently discontinued. Here is the only archive of which I am aware. Thanks for supporting SDF. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:50:41 HOST: sverige panic ensuing [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:50:41 HOST: sverige panic ensuing TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: no anon for first poster DATE: 06-May-05 11:31:22 HOST: sverige nope; but before you try it, reload :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: no anon for first poster DATE: 06-May-05 11:31:22 HOST: sverige nope; but before you try it, reload :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: preparedness DATE: 06-Sep-05 23:26:13 HOST: sverige Cuba does it better. http://www.un.org/apps/news/storyAr.asp?NewsID=11924 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: preparedness DATE: 06-Sep-05 23:26:13 HOST: sverige Cuba does it better. http://www.un.org/apps/news/storyAr.asp?NewsID=11924 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: refugee radio DATE: 07-Sep-05 14:56:06 HOST: sverige nice project! http://www.prometheusradio.org/katrina.shtml 10,000 radios ready to distribute in the AstroDome. Story covered on 7 Sept. by Democracy Now! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: refugee radio DATE: 07-Sep-05 14:56:06 HOST: sverige nice project! http://www.prometheusradio.org/katrina.shtml 10,000 radios ready to distribute in the AstroDome. Story covered on 7 Sept. by Democracy Now! .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: chilling outlook DATE: 28-Aug-05 23:32:32 HOST: sverige WWUS74 KLIX 282139 NPWLIX URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 ...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA... ...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED... MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED. THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE. HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT. AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK. POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED. http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/la/nonprecipwarning.html [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: chilling outlook DATE: 28-Aug-05 23:32:32 HOST: sverige WWUS74 KLIX 282139 NPWLIX URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 ...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA... ...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED... MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED. THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE. HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT. AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK. POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED. http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/la/nonprecipwarning.html ...........TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Ford Brothers DATE: 20-Aug-05 03:20:58 HOST: sverige I just heard (and saw) these guys play some awesome blues style on the PBS series "Sierra Center Stage". It was a very enjoyable experience for this old Chicago blues afficiando familiar with Walter Horton, Billy Branch, and Corky Siegel. Also a Garcia fan, the guitars were also quite good. Apparently, the Ford brothers were playing notable music during or before 1972. I'm not at all sure when this particular recording was made; but it sure is good. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Ford Brothers DATE: 20-Aug-05 03:20:58 HOST: sverige I just heard (and saw) these guys play some awesome blues style on the PBS series "Sierra Center Stage". It was a very enjoyable experience for this old Chicago blues afficiando familiar with Walter Horton, Billy Branch, and Corky Siegel. Also a Garcia fan, the guitars were also quite good. Apparently, the Ford brothers were playing notable music during or before 1972. I'm not at all sure when this particular recording was made; but it sure is good. ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Left Behind DATE: 21-Jan-05 03:40:47 HOST: sverige Why don't the "Left Behind" believers see Bush as the anti-Christ? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Left Behind DATE: 21-Jan-05 03:40:47 HOST: sverige Why don't the "Left Behind" believers see Bush as the anti-Christ? ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Shards DATE: 17-Jun-05 22:35:55 HOST: sverige Stephen, are Shards still available? If so, what funds should I attach to my dues/donation payment in order to obtain one/some? Thanks. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Shards DATE: 17-Jun-05 22:35:55 HOST: sverige Stephen, are Shards still available? If so, what funds should I attach to my dues/donation payment in order to obtain one/some? Thanks. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: nslookup DATE: 21-Jun-05 17:00:54 HOST: sverige observing that, FYI, /usr/bin/nslookup is fully or mostly functional /usr/pkg/bin/nslookup is barely if even functional [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: nslookup DATE: 21-Jun-05 17:00:54 HOST: sverige observing that, FYI, /usr/bin/nslookup is fully or mostly functional /usr/pkg/bin/nslookup is barely if even functional ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Perl Module Time..Object DATE: 30-Oct-05 04:25:57 HOST: sverige Stephen, Would you like to install this module? http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Time/Time-Object-1.00.tar.gz http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Time/Time-Object-1.00.readme Thanks for your consideration, [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Perl Module Time..Object DATE: 30-Oct-05 04:25:57 HOST: sverige Stephen, Would you like to install this module? http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Time/Time-Object-1.00.tar.gz http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Time/Time-Object-1.00.readme Thanks for your consideration, TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: CPU cooler DATE: 04-Jun-05 01:14:41 HOST: sverige Zalman fans have been recommended. ref. http://www.sharkacorp.com/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: CPU cooler DATE: 04-Jun-05 01:14:41 HOST: sverige Zalman fans have been recommended. ref. http://www.sharkacorp.com/ TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: enclosure/materials DATE: 21-May-05 12:52:34 HOST: sverige I've studied most of the "quiet pc" sites which explain nicely about larger slower fans and other component choices; but before I go to the trouble of testing different component replacements, I'd like to discover a material which I could generally wrap around the mini tower case, allowing of course for cooling and circulation, but something which would absorb the sounds, the primary of which at this point is the psu exhaust fan. Maybe a foam, a rubber, corkboard. Any experience here? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: enclosure/materials DATE: 21-May-05 12:52:34 HOST: sverige I've studied most of the "quiet pc" sites which explain nicely about larger slower fans and other component choices; but before I go to the trouble of testing different component replacements, I'd like to discover a material which I could generally wrap around the mini tower case, allowing of course for cooling and circulation, but something which would absorb the sounds, the primary of which at this point is the psu exhaust fan. Maybe a foam, a rubber, corkboard. Any experience here? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: joke DATE: 21-May-05 12:56:55 HOST: sverige cop pulls over the vehicle and tells the old man driver "man, your wife fell out of the car about a mile back there." Driver says "Thank God; I thought I'd gone deaf." [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: joke DATE: 21-May-05 12:56:55 HOST: sverige cop pulls over the vehicle and tells the old man driver "man, your wife fell out of the car about a mile back there." Driver says "Thank God; I thought I'd gone deaf." ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Any experiences with these? DATE: 17-May-05 21:42:13 HOST: sverige I'm starting to look into these for webhosting and other server uses. There are lots of interesting tech issues to discover about underlying OS, the base software, network configurations, hosted/client OS, management options, and several other feature considerations. If anybody has experiences or interests with these things, this board is now a place where we can share with each other. For the uninitiated, take a look at unixshell.com for starters. BTW, I"m keeping my Meta-ARPA account with SDF no matter what I do with other hosting or VPS or even other basic shell accounts. Having redundant remote shells is very handy for debugging site and network troubles; and of course the community is an increasingly comfortable experience. You're all generally gOOd gOObers :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Any experiences with these? DATE: 17-May-05 21:42:13 HOST: sverige I'm starting to look into these for webhosting and other server uses. There are lots of interesting tech issues to discover about underlying OS, the base software, network configurations, hosted/client OS, management options, and several other feature considerations. If anybody has experiences or interests with these things, this board is now a place where we can share with each other. For the uninitiated, take a look at unixshell.com for starters. BTW, I"m keeping my Meta-ARPA account with SDF no matter what I do with other hosting or VPS or even other basic shell accounts. Having redundant remote shells is very handy for debugging site and network troubles; and of course the community is an increasingly comfortable experience. You're all generally gOOd gOObers :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: platforms DATE: 28-May-05 02:24:35 HOST: sverige Virtuozzo (.com) is linux based (preferring redhat family) I just came across http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ which is used as a platform for VPS hosting by http://www.linode.com/ and presumably others though I find this statement: "User-Mode Linux gives you a virtual machine that may have more hardware and software virtual resources than your actual, physical computer." somewhat suspect :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: platforms DATE: 28-May-05 02:24:35 HOST: sverige Virtuozzo (.com) is linux based (preferring redhat family) I just came across http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ which is used as a platform for VPS hosting by http://www.linode.com/ and presumably others though I find this statement: "User-Mode Linux gives you a virtual machine that may have more hardware and software virtual resources than your actual, physical computer." somewhat suspect :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: severe crisis in South Dakota DATE: 01-Dec-05 16:24:47 HOST: sverige http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/13295739.htm ice storm broke an estimated 2,000 electric power poles statewide this weekend; Wednesday snow covered the state; Friday temps fall below zero F; 140,000 people without power or water. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: severe crisis in South Dakota DATE: 01-Dec-05 16:24:47 HOST: sverige http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/13295739.htm ice storm broke an estimated 2,000 electric power poles statewide this weekend; Wednesday snow covered the state; Friday temps fall below zero F; 140,000 people without power or water. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: hurricanes and global warming DATE: 01-Dec-05 22:11:48 HOST: sverige Recently the NWS gave a press event remarking on the 2005 hurricane season and stating with confidence that 2006 would be little different. Again, they made their assertion that global warming was not a factor, which seems to be the dominant view of most ocean-atmosphere scientists. One reason regularly made in connection with this disjunction is that the warm gulf current is on its own cycle which is minimally influenced by air temps. However, in this press conference, they also said that part of the reason the '05 season was so active was that strong westerlies did shear apart the advancing storms; and it is *that* statement which may reconnect the global warming with the hurricane season, because it is temperature differences which create the winds. Equatorial winds blow from east to west because the earth is rotating west to east beneath (and with) the atmosphere. Other than that, winds blow in a direction from high pressures toward low pressures, these being created by differential heating of the equatorial and polar reegions. "Warm air rises" in the equatorial regions creating relative low pressure at the surface; while cold air in the polar regions descends into relative high pressure areas on the surface and then blow toward the equator. Coriolis effect turns both the equatorial easterlies and the polar northerlies, while higher friction at the surface slows the surface winds relative to the upper level winds, which has a direct impact on the direction of those winds, ... and the whole lower atmosphere is stirred up into a constantly morphing swirl for which the predominant influence is .... temperature. specifically air temperature, which indeed is influenced by the temperatures of the land and water surfaces beneath it. Hopefully, Jeff or other more expert than I will correct me where I'm wrong. My point here would be that the "strength" of the hurricane season is a result of many influences; and that any global warming would perhaps affect the season more than it would affect any one of those individual influences. Notably, global warming wouldn't impact the temperatures of the gulf current or open ocean surface as much as it would impact the winds which drive and destroy a tropical storm. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: hurricanes and global warming DATE: 01-Dec-05 22:11:48 HOST: sverige Recently the NWS gave a press event remarking on the 2005 hurricane season and stating with confidence that 2006 would be little different. Again, they made their assertion that global warming was not a factor, which seems to be the dominant view of most ocean-atmosphere scientists. One reason regularly made in connection with this disjunction is that the warm gulf current is on its own cycle which is minimally influenced by air temps. However, in this press conference, they also said that part of the reason the '05 season was so active was that strong westerlies did shear apart the advancing storms; and it is *that* statement which may reconnect the global warming with the hurricane season, because it is temperature differences which create the winds. Equatorial winds blow from east to west because the earth is rotating west to east beneath (and with) the atmosphere. Other than that, winds blow in a direction from high pressures toward low pressures, these being created by differential heating of the equatorial and polar reegions. "Warm air rises" in the equatorial regions creating relative low pressure at the surface; while cold air in the polar regions descends into relative high pressure areas on the surface and then blow toward the equator. Coriolis effect turns both the equatorial easterlies and the polar northerlies, while higher friction at the surface slows the surface winds relative to the upper level winds, which has a direct impact on the direction of those winds, ... and the whole lower atmosphere is stirred up into a constantly morphing swirl for which the predominant influence is .... temperature. specifically air temperature, which indeed is influenced by the temperatures of the land and water surfaces beneath it. Hopefully, Jeff or other more expert than I will correct me where I'm wrong. My point here would be that the "strength" of the hurricane season is a result of many influences; and that any global warming would perhaps affect the season more than it would affect any one of those individual influences. Notably, global warming wouldn't impact the temperatures of the gulf current or open ocean surface as much as it would impact the winds which drive and destroy a tropical storm. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Ophelia along U.S. east coast DATE: 12-Sep-05 12:28:19 HOST: sverige NWS notes in discussion of 5am Sep'12: (note: CAPS are original formatting) NONE OF THE RELIABLE DYNAMICAL MODELS HAVE BEEN IMMUNE FROM SIGNIFICANT TRACK FORECAST SHIFTS DURING THE PAST DAY OR TWO IN THIS VERY DIFFICULT SCENARIO. some of the MODELS FORECAST OPHELIA TO STILL BE NOT FAR OFF THE COAST OF THE CAROLINAS 4-5 DAYS FROM NOW. not a major hurricane, but a pesky one. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Ophelia along U.S. east coast DATE: 12-Sep-05 12:28:19 HOST: sverige NWS notes in discussion of 5am Sep'12: (note: CAPS are original formatting) NONE OF THE RELIABLE DYNAMICAL MODELS HAVE BEEN IMMUNE FROM SIGNIFICANT TRACK FORECAST SHIFTS DURING THE PAST DAY OR TWO IN THIS VERY DIFFICULT SCENARIO. some of the MODELS FORECAST OPHELIA TO STILL BE NOT FAR OFF THE COAST OF THE CAROLINAS 4-5 DAYS FROM NOW. not a major hurricane, but a pesky one. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Wilma DATE: 21-Oct-05 18:33:48 HOST: sverige a very very bad day, weekend, in Cozumel ... http://avoyager.freeshell.org/Wilma/ with updates [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Wilma DATE: 21-Oct-05 18:33:48 HOST: sverige a very very bad day, weekend, in Cozumel ... http://avoyager.freeshell.org/Wilma/ with updates TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Rita is Cat 5 DATE: 21-Sep-05 23:07:21 HOST: sverige we got ourselves another doozy of a hurr'cane in the Gulf of Mexico. Unless you don't monitor ANY news, you already knew that, I acknowledge; but in our lifetimes, these babies used to be pretty rare. As a cloud pattern they sure make for an impressive view on visible satellite images. It troubles me that so many folks attribute these well understood natural processes, however rare, as "acts of God". [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: Rita is Cat 5 DATE: 21-Sep-05 23:07:21 HOST: sverige we got ourselves another doozy of a hurr'cane in the Gulf of Mexico. Unless you don't monitor ANY news, you already knew that, I acknowledge; but in our lifetimes, these babies used to be pretty rare. As a cloud pattern they sure make for an impressive view on visible satellite images. It troubles me that so many folks attribute these well understood natural processes, however rare, as "acts of God". .........................TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Favorite Name for 'Dubya'? DATE: 11-May-05 15:44:33 HOST: sverige "Junior" "Dim Son" "Misleader-in-Chief" "worst president ever" http://www.cafepress.com/thewhitehouse/322501 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Favorite Name for 'Dubya'? DATE: 11-May-05 15:44:33 HOST: sverige "Junior" "Dim Son" "Misleader-in-Chief" "worst president ever" http://www.cafepress.com/thewhitehouse/322501 .................TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Hangover Cures DATE: 23-May-05 03:25:55 HOST: sverige Prevention is best; lots of food and water/gatoraide during the drinking and before passing out. On wakeups, Alka-Seltzer is excellent, every 3 hours. It's even good before going to sleep and when you roll over. The above works for me and beer; lots of beer. Strategies for wine and tequilla may differ, but this should be a good starting point. I've known very heavy boozer to live by Gatoraide; as much as possible, before and after sleep. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Hangover Cures DATE: 23-May-05 03:25:55 HOST: sverige Prevention is best; lots of food and water/gatoraide during the drinking and before passing out. On wakeups, Alka-Seltzer is excellent, every 3 hours. It's even good before going to sleep and when you roll over. The above works for me and beer; lots of beer. Strategies for wine and tequilla may differ, but this should be a good starting point. I've known very heavy boozer to live by Gatoraide; as much as possible, before and after sleep. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Weening off bittorrent DATE: 23-May-05 03:22:44 HOST: sverige retroactive taxation; welcome to the new amerikkka. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Weening off bittorrent DATE: 23-May-05 03:22:44 HOST: sverige retroactive taxation; welcome to the new amerikkka. ..TACKER: Anonymous (Anonymous) SUBJECT: .. Uh-Oh DATE: 23-Jul-05 07:11:10 are you avoyager? if not? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: Anonymous (Anonymous) SUBJECT: .. Uh-Oh DATE: 23-Jul-05 07:11:10 are you avoyager? if not? ........TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Sick of being Sick and Tired .. DATE: 29-Jun-05 12:26:46 HOST: sverige perhaps you'll appreciate listening to http://avoyager.freeshell.org/Mutabaruka-Dis_Poem.mp3 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Sick of being Sick and Tired .. DATE: 29-Jun-05 12:26:46 HOST: sverige perhaps you'll appreciate listening to http://avoyager.freeshell.org/Mutabaruka-Dis_Poem.mp3 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Sick of being Sick and Tired .. DATE: 30-Jun-05 14:22:31 HOST: sverige surprised that nobody took that, I've none-the-less added one more important morsel. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Sick of being Sick and Tired .. DATE: 30-Jun-05 14:22:31 HOST: sverige surprised that nobody took that, I've none-the-less added one more important morsel. ..............TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. DNS A record setting DATE: 09-May-05 12:37:36 HOST: sverige $ url ykf ykf.freeshell.org - Twister Studio, the photo gallery of Samuel Yung $ host ykf.freeshell.org ykf.freeshell.org has address 192.94.73.7 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. DNS A record setting DATE: 09-May-05 12:37:36 HOST: sverige $ url ykf ykf.freeshell.org - Twister Studio, the photo gallery of Samuel Yung $ host ykf.freeshell.org ykf.freeshell.org has address 192.94.73.7 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. DNS A record setting DATE: 09-May-05 16:29:56 HOST: sverige The tcp/ip packets will go to the IP address; but the browser request of the web/html/apache server will be for the domain name. The web server probably needs to be configured to associate the domain name with a fixed location on the drive system; hence the vhost membership. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. DNS A record setting DATE: 09-May-05 16:29:56 HOST: sverige The tcp/ip packets will go to the IP address; but the browser request of the web/html/apache server will be for the domain name. The web server probably needs to be configured to associate the domain name with a fixed location on the drive system; hence the vhost membership. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 00:45:00 HOST: sverige sdf may bave been "repurposed", or it may have never accepted remote logins in the prior place. --?? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 00:45:00 HOST: sverige sdf may bave been "repurposed", or it may have never accepted remote logins in the prior place. --?? TACKER: sheywood (Samuel W. Heywood) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 00:57:33 HOST: ukato To avoyager (Avo Yager): Remote logins to sdf using SSH have always worked for me during all the years I have been using sdf, except during brief periods when the machine was temporarily down for servicing or due to power outtages, etc. I have never before up until just a few minutes ago experienced anything like being presented with the prompt to enter my password, and I enter it correctly, and it is rejected, and I am presented with the password prompt two more times, and I enter it correctly again each time, and then I get kicked off of the connection. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: sheywood (Samuel W. Heywood) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 00:57:33 HOST: ukato To avoyager (Avo Yager): Remote logins to sdf using SSH have always worked for me during all the years I have been using sdf, except during brief periods when the machine was temporarily down for servicing or due to power outtages, etc. I have never before up until just a few minutes ago experienced anything like being presented with the prompt to enter my password, and I enter it correctly, and it is rejected, and I am presented with the password prompt two more times, and I enter it correctly again each time, and then I get kicked off of the connection. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 01:27:47 HOST: sverige I confirm; access to sdf.lonestar.org works; sdf.freeshell.org does not. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 01:27:47 HOST: sverige I confirm; access to sdf.lonestar.org works; sdf.freeshell.org does not. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 02:18:28 HOST: sverige not listed anywhere that I've seen; who said that it was? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 02:18:28 HOST: sverige not listed anywhere that I've seen; who said that it was? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 02:35:50 HOST: sverige Don't panic; I'm confident that the light will shine soon enough. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 02:35:50 HOST: sverige Don't panic; I'm confident that the light will shine soon enough. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 03:00:59 HOST: sverige You're welcomed, encouraged, to epost this bulletin once the issue has been resolved; (since|if) it has no archival value for current or future generations of SDFers. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My password no longer works on sdf DATE: 11-Jul-05 03:00:59 HOST: sverige You're welcomed, encouraged, to epost this bulletin once the issue has been resolved; (since|if) it has no archival value for current or future generations of SDFers. ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. MetaArpa, card carrying members? DATE: 21-Jan-05 03:47:34 HOST: sverige >I bet I have one of the lowest ICQ numbers on SDF: 433XXX. Bet [almost] lost to [one of] my 246xxx. Am I the only REI Co-op member? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. MetaArpa, card carrying members? DATE: 21-Jan-05 03:47:34 HOST: sverige >I bet I have one of the lowest ICQ numbers on SDF: 433XXX. Bet [almost] lost to [one of] my 246xxx. Am I the only REI Co-op member? ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Spam Issues - need a way to control DATE: 22-Jul-05 13:01:56 HOST: sverige FAQ Email 07 describes the smj/SDF nospam utility. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Spam Issues - need a way to control DATE: 22-Jul-05 13:01:56 HOST: sverige FAQ Email 07 describes the smj/SDF nospam utility. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Spam Issues - need a way to control DATE: 22-Jul-05 15:47:11 HOST: sverige You can create very powerful filters by using procmail; though don't expect it to be easy; there should be some very useful sites linked from a search on procmail spam. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Spam Issues - need a way to control DATE: 22-Jul-05 15:47:11 HOST: sverige You can create very powerful filters by using procmail; though don't expect it to be easy; there should be some very useful sites linked from a search on procmail spam. ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. monkey has lost arpa privs .. DATE: 27-Jun-05 16:30:31 HOST: sverige who put the monkey in the middle? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. monkey has lost arpa privs .. DATE: 27-Jun-05 16:30:31 HOST: sverige who put the monkey in the middle? ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'trac' DATE: 29-Apr-05 21:35:38 HOST: sverige Sheesh, data. You can't find $36 a year, blown on something else, which you could divert to SDF? I conclude .... ^H^H^H nothing positive; and am, um, disappointed. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'trac' DATE: 29-Apr-05 21:35:38 HOST: sverige Sheesh, data. You can't find $36 a year, blown on something else, which you could divert to SDF? I conclude .... ^H^H^H nothing positive; and am, um, disappointed. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'trac' DATE: 30-Apr-05 02:26:46 HOST: sverige >I think barnacle moved to california and got a job! karma? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'trac' DATE: 30-Apr-05 02:26:46 HOST: sverige >I think barnacle moved to california and got a job! karma? .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. dnetc? DATE: 31-Dec-04 01:34:50 HOST: sverige 2 comments ... 1. "So why don't you guys get on 'twkm's case for running 'irssi' 24/7?" I've been noticing that activity for days/weeks now. It may be 24/7, but I don't see it hogging CPU. It may be persistent, but it appears to be low impact. I do wonder what it is however ;-} 2. If anybody here doesn't clearly understand what a distributed network is, then you should look it up. Client applications of distributed networks have no business running on SDF or any other public shared servers. --Cheers/2! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. dnetc? DATE: 31-Dec-04 01:34:50 HOST: sverige 2 comments ... 1. "So why don't you guys get on 'twkm's case for running 'irssi' 24/7?" I've been noticing that activity for days/weeks now. It may be 24/7, but I don't see it hogging CPU. It may be persistent, but it appears to be low impact. I do wonder what it is however ;-} 2. If anybody here doesn't clearly understand what a distributed network is, then you should look it up. Client applications of distributed networks have no business running on SDF or any other public shared servers. --Cheers/2! .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. missing bulletins DATE: 15-Jan-05 17:52:42 HOST: sverige That would explain it I guess. And smj may have deposted the search thread after he fixed it. OK. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. missing bulletins DATE: 15-Jan-05 17:52:42 HOST: sverige That would explain it I guess. And smj may have deposted the search thread after he fixed it. OK. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Did you BBS? DATE: 11-May-05 00:50:20 HOST: sverige I ran TBBS software in DesqView and later OS/2, as FidoNet 1:115/678 for modem speeds until 14.4 baud at which point I couldn't get the latest TBBS/modem combo to run in an OS/2 sponsored DOS session. I still think about trying again however. At the time, I also acquired an Internet connection which was sufficiently distracting to not hurt myself trying to resolve the modem issues. TBBS was developed by Phil Becker whose background included programming for space satellites and their episodic reprogramming by remote radio link. To watch it handle 16 concurrent phone line sessions on a 386-16 was pretty special. SeaDog mailer; Sirius echomail handler. I was connected at the time with Hewlett Packard Hand Held user groups, HPHH and later PPC. It was an international group which travelled a lot and had international and regional assemblys as well as regular local meetings; it was a very social environment and a superb bunch of tech geeks indeed. HP engineers were active in the group; we hacked the hardware and software on those things, many of which are still running today. I learned computer programming on HP series handhelds; RPN on the 20 and 40 series was my favorite; also BASIC and FORTH on the 71-B; and "assembly" on them all. What's notable today is the attention then paid to efficiency of space and cpu cycle, something which MicroSoft programmers never, never, ever, understood, at all. It was a different era with different tools, constraints, and opportunities; one in which you could find integrity and other virtues; and respect, from and for, people, groups and their accomplishments. That model is not disappeared, thanks to SDF, the BBS docu, other projects and the individuals who keep these things alive. But much of it, like hitch-hiking, isn't likely to become part of current activity of today's generations; only, we can hope, part of their consciousness. The DOS based HP-200lx still connects to the internet and runs a Kermit session; something it was doing long before other "palm" and "handheld" marketry was even envisioned. HP-110 blazed the "laptop" path for others to follow. It was the era between punch-cards and mice. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Did you BBS? DATE: 11-May-05 00:50:20 HOST: sverige I ran TBBS software in DesqView and later OS/2, as FidoNet 1:115/678 for modem speeds until 14.4 baud at which point I couldn't get the latest TBBS/modem combo to run in an OS/2 sponsored DOS session. I still think about trying again however. At the time, I also acquired an Internet connection which was sufficiently distracting to not hurt myself trying to resolve the modem issues. TBBS was developed by Phil Becker whose background included programming for space satellites and their episodic reprogramming by remote radio link. To watch it handle 16 concurrent phone line sessions on a 386-16 was pretty special. SeaDog mailer; Sirius echomail handler. I was connected at the time with Hewlett Packard Hand Held user groups, HPHH and later PPC. It was an international group which travelled a lot and had international and regional assemblys as well as regular local meetings; it was a very social environment and a superb bunch of tech geeks indeed. HP engineers were active in the group; we hacked the hardware and software on those things, many of which are still running today. I learned computer programming on HP series handhelds; RPN on the 20 and 40 series was my favorite; also BASIC and FORTH on the 71-B; and "assembly" on them all. What's notable today is the attention then paid to efficiency of space and cpu cycle, something which MicroSoft programmers never, never, ever, understood, at all. It was a different era with different tools, constraints, and opportunities; one in which you could find integrity and other virtues; and respect, from and for, people, groups and their accomplishments. That model is not disappeared, thanks to SDF, the BBS docu, other projects and the individuals who keep these things alive. But much of it, like hitch-hiking, isn't likely to become part of current activity of today's generations; only, we can hope, part of their consciousness. The DOS based HP-200lx still connects to the internet and runs a Kermit session; something it was doing long before other "palm" and "handheld" marketry was even envisioned. HP-110 blazed the "laptop" path for others to follow. It was the era between punch-cards and mice. ........TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Still ~3 weeks 'til Thanksgiving and... DATE: 05-Nov-05 16:07:16 HOST: sverige "shop till you drop" [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Still ~3 weeks 'til Thanksgiving and... DATE: 05-Nov-05 16:07:16 HOST: sverige "shop till you drop" ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Fucking terrorists DATE: 07-Jul-05 22:56:47 HOST: sverige It's not too difficult to imagine the response from (willfully and stupidly) provoking terrorists; that's why there's Politics of Fear and Dept. of Homeland Security. At the same time, any nation or non-nation state which uses depleted uranium, cluster bombs, and friggin napalm on a foreign non-combatant population, can hardly be considered "civilized". [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Fucking terrorists DATE: 07-Jul-05 22:56:47 HOST: sverige It's not too difficult to imagine the response from (willfully and stupidly) provoking terrorists; that's why there's Politics of Fear and Dept. of Homeland Security. At the same time, any nation or non-nation state which uses depleted uranium, cluster bombs, and friggin napalm on a foreign non-combatant population, can hardly be considered "civilized". .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Fucking terrorists DATE: 08-Jul-05 14:06:50 HOST: sverige Hi christ. I'm not sure why you bring up "what happened in let's say baghdad a few years ago". I was referring to what has been happening throughout Iraq each and every day since then; and in Afghanistan before that. You apparently have little good information about how many innocent civilians have been murdered in those countrys by the Bush-Rumsfeld regime. By any accounting it's well over 20,000 civilians by now; needlessly, and stupidly, slaughtered by the Bushite ideology, which sounds no different from the Islamist ideology. Go figure. Then watch "The Power of Nightmares" references: http://cursor.org/stories/archivistan.htm http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Fucking terrorists DATE: 08-Jul-05 14:06:50 HOST: sverige Hi christ. I'm not sure why you bring up "what happened in let's say baghdad a few years ago". I was referring to what has been happening throughout Iraq each and every day since then; and in Afghanistan before that. You apparently have little good information about how many innocent civilians have been murdered in those countrys by the Bush-Rumsfeld regime. By any accounting it's well over 20,000 civilians by now; needlessly, and stupidly, slaughtered by the Bushite ideology, which sounds no different from the Islamist ideology. Go figure. Then watch "The Power of Nightmares" references: http://cursor.org/stories/archivistan.htm http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Fucking terrorists DATE: 11-Jul-05 13:11:04 HOST: sverige Thanks, Otto, for the clarification. I certainly agree that there are a lot of heads in the sand on this matter; but then the war mongers seem to think that it is MY head in the sand, not theirs. Didn't there used to be a single objective lens which we could all use together? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Fucking terrorists DATE: 11-Jul-05 13:11:04 HOST: sverige Thanks, Otto, for the clarification. I certainly agree that there are a lot of heads in the sand on this matter; but then the war mongers seem to think that it is MY head in the sand, not theirs. Didn't there used to be a single objective lens which we could all use together? ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. a root canal .. DATE: 13-Jul-05 12:47:29 HOST: sverige Maybe you attacked it too early? Mine have all been so painless as to hardly need even basic novacaine; because everything was sufficiently dead. Why tear out a living root? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. a root canal .. DATE: 13-Jul-05 12:47:29 HOST: sverige Maybe you attacked it too early? Mine have all been so painless as to hardly need even basic novacaine; because everything was sufficiently dead. Why tear out a living root? .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. los angeles DATE: 13-Sep-05 14:05:23 HOST: sverige the terrorists control the chimp [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. los angeles DATE: 13-Sep-05 14:05:23 HOST: sverige the terrorists control the chimp ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. fucking americans DATE: 18-Aug-05 23:52:35 HOST: sverige heya hobbsc, Rather than scream at Americans, I recommend changing your TV viewing. Start by never, ever turning on any of the broadcast or cable "news"; none of them, ever, except for maybe BBC if you're jonesin. Don't visit their websites. There's better places for better (more accurate, more relevant) news; and frankly, nobody needs to know *anything* immediately; it can all wait until you're ready for it, or it comes across on the radio. for starters. since you asked :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. fucking americans DATE: 18-Aug-05 23:52:35 HOST: sverige heya hobbsc, Rather than scream at Americans, I recommend changing your TV viewing. Start by never, ever turning on any of the broadcast or cable "news"; none of them, ever, except for maybe BBC if you're jonesin. Don't visit their websites. There's better places for better (more accurate, more relevant) news; and frankly, nobody needs to know *anything* immediately; it can all wait until you're ready for it, or it comes across on the radio. for starters. since you asked :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. turn signals DATE: 08-Sep-05 12:05:15 HOST: sverige I only use my signals if there is somebody to blink at; and I only stop when there is something to stop for. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. turn signals DATE: 08-Sep-05 12:05:15 HOST: sverige I only use my signals if there is somebody to blink at; and I only stop when there is something to stop for. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. turn signals DATE: 08-Sep-05 15:06:25 HOST: sverige A good driver always knows where everybody is around them, and is always on the defensive against hitting or being hit, no matter what they're driving, pushing, pulling, walking, or whatever. If you "WALK" because the sign tells you to, or proceed because the light turns green, then you're more stupid than a fool. You walk when you determine that it is safe to do so; there is no other valid criteria. If a car *might* turn suddenly, or stop suddenly, or start suddenly, you'd better anticipate it; no matter what their silly blinkers might be doing. --basis life skills 102 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. turn signals DATE: 08-Sep-05 15:06:25 HOST: sverige A good driver always knows where everybody is around them, and is always on the defensive against hitting or being hit, no matter what they're driving, pushing, pulling, walking, or whatever. If you "WALK" because the sign tells you to, or proceed because the light turns green, then you're more stupid than a fool. You walk when you determine that it is safe to do so; there is no other valid criteria. If a car *might* turn suddenly, or stop suddenly, or start suddenly, you'd better anticipate it; no matter what their silly blinkers might be doing. --basis life skills 102 .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. turn signals DATE: 10-Sep-05 01:43:54 HOST: sverige sheywood, "If use my turn signals to let the people know that I intend to change over to their lane and get in front of them they will quickly speed up and not let me in." I'm sympathetic with this situation, and experienced it today, inspiring this post. Here's the way I handle it. While looking for the opportunity to change lanes, or to turn into a street from bottom of T-intersection, I don't "blink"; .... but as soon as I commit to the action, I turn on the signal, so that all involved are more likely to WAKE UP (usually from their cell phones) and go into a more defensive attention. If you change lanes without blinking, you seriously deprive them their opportunity to be relieved of any ambiguities they may have about your *intentions*. In short, signalling is not a *request*; I treat it as a statement of impending fact; and when I see one alongside me, I anticipate that driver does not see me. Please drive kindly, as well as defensively, and HANG UP THE PHONE! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. turn signals DATE: 10-Sep-05 01:43:54 HOST: sverige sheywood, "If use my turn signals to let the people know that I intend to change over to their lane and get in front of them they will quickly speed up and not let me in." I'm sympathetic with this situation, and experienced it today, inspiring this post. Here's the way I handle it. While looking for the opportunity to change lanes, or to turn into a street from bottom of T-intersection, I don't "blink"; .... but as soon as I commit to the action, I turn on the signal, so that all involved are more likely to WAKE UP (usually from their cell phones) and go into a more defensive attention. If you change lanes without blinking, you seriously deprive them their opportunity to be relieved of any ambiguities they may have about your *intentions*. In short, signalling is not a *request*; I treat it as a statement of impending fact; and when I see one alongside me, I anticipate that driver does not see me. Please drive kindly, as well as defensively, and HANG UP THE PHONE! TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Restrict DATE: 22-Dec-04 13:43:43 HOST: sverige It was unconstitutional for Congress to pass the War Powers Act transferring the responsibility for declaring war (Iraq) from Congress to the Executive. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Restrict DATE: 22-Dec-04 13:43:43 HOST: sverige It was unconstitutional for Congress to pass the War Powers Act transferring the responsibility for declaring war (Iraq) from Congress to the Executive. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Shut the ANNOUNCE ANONYMOUS ARPA BBS BICYCLING BITCH BSD CH DATE: 21-Aug-05 02:06:16 HOST: sverige piss on 'em [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Shut the ANNOUNCE ANONYMOUS ARPA BBS BICYCLING BITCH BSD CH DATE: 21-Aug-05 02:06:16 HOST: sverige piss on 'em ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. People ignorant of computer security DATE: 21-May-05 12:41:56 HOST: sverige Cable/DSL modems might, otherwise a cheap switch, have built-in router to provide NAT, as the second important solution for most of these folks. Dumping IE/Outlook being the first. The InJoy Dialer provides excellent protection (incl. NAT) for pots modem users. http://fx.dk/injoy/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. People ignorant of computer security DATE: 21-May-05 12:41:56 HOST: sverige Cable/DSL modems might, otherwise a cheap switch, have built-in router to provide NAT, as the second important solution for most of these folks. Dumping IE/Outlook being the first. The InJoy Dialer provides excellent protection (incl. NAT) for pots modem users. http://fx.dk/injoy/ ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. fucking terrorist part ii DATE: 27-Jul-05 11:57:11 HOST: sverige "I'm going to be on my knees, hands on head, mouth tightly shut." That posture didn't work out too good for Rodney King. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. fucking terrorist part ii DATE: 27-Jul-05 11:57:11 HOST: sverige "I'm going to be on my knees, hands on head, mouth tightly shut." That posture didn't work out too good for Rodney King. ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Subway on the O'Hare Oasis DATE: 29-Jul-05 18:43:02 HOST: sverige "next time" we serve you spoiled meat???? That's not very encouraging. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Subway on the O'Hare Oasis DATE: 29-Jul-05 18:43:02 HOST: sverige "next time" we serve you spoiled meat???? That's not very encouraging. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. fucking americans (part ii) DATE: 31-Aug-05 15:51:29 HOST: sverige cor, when I say that the devastation of the Gulf coast, and impending loss of the City of New Orleans, is "worse" than the WTC attacks, I refer to the suffering of humanity, and the extent of personal loss; not to foreign policy, global politics, the malicious ideologies of wackos, or any other precursor of the destruction experienced in NYC 4 years ago. I agree that the tsunami was worse than this. I haven't heard that reference elsewhere. Of course, others think of New Orleans as biblical Gomorrah; and I fully expect that any minute now Pat Robertson and Billy Graham will be preaching about how jazz musicians have had this coming to them since the French first got off their boats in North America. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. fucking americans (part ii) DATE: 31-Aug-05 15:51:29 HOST: sverige cor, when I say that the devastation of the Gulf coast, and impending loss of the City of New Orleans, is "worse" than the WTC attacks, I refer to the suffering of humanity, and the extent of personal loss; not to foreign policy, global politics, the malicious ideologies of wackos, or any other precursor of the destruction experienced in NYC 4 years ago. I agree that the tsunami was worse than this. I haven't heard that reference elsewhere. Of course, others think of New Orleans as biblical Gomorrah; and I fully expect that any minute now Pat Robertson and Billy Graham will be preaching about how jazz musicians have had this coming to them since the French first got off their boats in North America. ................TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. show your pride DATE: 20-Sep-05 04:08:29 HOST: sverige Aren't the tax reductions, in this deficit budget, just a long term debt payable by our children? whose only current "benefit" is underfunded medical care and education. I'm sure I don't see the positive in that. And wasn't Reagan's dribble-on economics policy already debunked? even before he reimplemented it? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. show your pride DATE: 20-Sep-05 04:08:29 HOST: sverige Aren't the tax reductions, in this deficit budget, just a long term debt payable by our children? whose only current "benefit" is underfunded medical care and education. I'm sure I don't see the positive in that. And wasn't Reagan's dribble-on economics policy already debunked? even before he reimplemented it? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. bias admission DATE: 13-Sep-05 05:11:51 HOST: sverige on that note, U.S. corporate media is completely worthless for anything other than propagandizing; in fact, it's downright damaging to the development and sustainance of clear thinking. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. bias admission DATE: 13-Sep-05 05:11:51 HOST: sverige on that note, U.S. corporate media is completely worthless for anything other than propagandizing; in fact, it's downright damaging to the development and sustainance of clear thinking. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. best city/cities DATE: 11-Jun-05 14:27:26 HOST: sverige Winnipeg ?? Thunder Bay ?? Prince Rupert ?? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. best city/cities DATE: 11-Jun-05 14:27:26 HOST: sverige Winnipeg ?? Thunder Bay ?? Prince Rupert ?? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sacrifice DATE: 04-Aug-05 12:41:56 HOST: sverige Christian writings are much less hateful than the behavior of many who profess to Christianity. As to the "natural" man and the "image and likeness of God", I see it as man born to become more Godlike or spiritual during the course of his life. While it may be that the raw innocence of newborns and young children are also an image of God, it is not one of power or wisdom or even love, during the months of helpless dependency. The "natural" in man is then like the natural in Jesus, being his mother; and the "spiritual" in man like that in Jesus. And it is man's proper activity during life to set the spiritual before and above the natural, that his/our natural may serve our spiritual. The natural is essentially selfish greed and willingness to exploit others. The original Ten Commandments were provided to address these conditions, and to point the way toward God as the source of love and wisdom. The spiritual comes to humanity in Christ, who reinforces the Divinity as the source of love and wisdom, and provides a life of examples, and a couple simple new commandments, to guide man in elevating brotherhood over selfishness, in their lives. The Old Testament was a 10,000+ year project. The New Testament is still pretty young yet, but a lot easier to understand and injest, particularly if you stick to the four Gospels of Christ as authoritative, and not get sidetracked into the epistles. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sacrifice DATE: 04-Aug-05 12:41:56 HOST: sverige Christian writings are much less hateful than the behavior of many who profess to Christianity. As to the "natural" man and the "image and likeness of God", I see it as man born to become more Godlike or spiritual during the course of his life. While it may be that the raw innocence of newborns and young children are also an image of God, it is not one of power or wisdom or even love, during the months of helpless dependency. The "natural" in man is then like the natural in Jesus, being his mother; and the "spiritual" in man like that in Jesus. And it is man's proper activity during life to set the spiritual before and above the natural, that his/our natural may serve our spiritual. The natural is essentially selfish greed and willingness to exploit others. The original Ten Commandments were provided to address these conditions, and to point the way toward God as the source of love and wisdom. The spiritual comes to humanity in Christ, who reinforces the Divinity as the source of love and wisdom, and provides a life of examples, and a couple simple new commandments, to guide man in elevating brotherhood over selfishness, in their lives. The Old Testament was a 10,000+ year project. The New Testament is still pretty young yet, but a lot easier to understand and injest, particularly if you stick to the four Gospels of Christ as authoritative, and not get sidetracked into the epistles. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Life - A morality play ending in salvation? DATE: 04-Aug-05 16:10:50 HOST: sverige Q: Were humans given the world to rule over by god? A: No. Why would a God need humans to take care of a world or planet for Him/her? What would be the point in that for God or for humans? and which humans, the ruled or the rulers? Q: Why do Christians and Muslims believe that life on earth is a precursor to a better world in heaven? A: Or a worse world in hell. Q: Why to do the motheistic cults of Christianity and Islam want to spread their beliefs to every human being on the planet? A: It seems that they believe that they were told to do so; or that they were called to do so; by Divine instruction. Too bad, eh? It doesn't seem to occur to many of them that they just might have misunderstood any of it. Q: Why does the World Bank and IMF want to spread market liberalism to every human being on the planet? A: It's capitalism. They are extending their scope of exploitation and economic control. Q: Why do Marxists believe that government can eventually disappear and the whole world can live in natural harmony? R: Do they really? Q: Is there a conenction between the three? R: Which 3? monotheism, World Bank, and Marxism? A: I don't know. Q: By seeking to spread liberalism worlwide and create a single human culture are the IMF and World Bank doing the 'work of the lord'? A: Certainly not. Q: Is it possible for a single human culture to exist? A: Would it be "human" if it lost its diversity? Q: Are science and technology accellerating our 'progress' towards a single unified human culture, or are they pushing us further apart? A: neither? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Life - A morality play ending in salvation? DATE: 04-Aug-05 16:10:50 HOST: sverige Q: Were humans given the world to rule over by god? A: No. Why would a God need humans to take care of a world or planet for Him/her? What would be the point in that for God or for humans? and which humans, the ruled or the rulers? Q: Why do Christians and Muslims believe that life on earth is a precursor to a better world in heaven? A: Or a worse world in hell. Q: Why to do the motheistic cults of Christianity and Islam want to spread their beliefs to every human being on the planet? A: It seems that they believe that they were told to do so; or that they were called to do so; by Divine instruction. Too bad, eh? It doesn't seem to occur to many of them that they just might have misunderstood any of it. Q: Why does the World Bank and IMF want to spread market liberalism to every human being on the planet? A: It's capitalism. They are extending their scope of exploitation and economic control. Q: Why do Marxists believe that government can eventually disappear and the whole world can live in natural harmony? R: Do they really? Q: Is there a conenction between the three? R: Which 3? monotheism, World Bank, and Marxism? A: I don't know. Q: By seeking to spread liberalism worlwide and create a single human culture are the IMF and World Bank doing the 'work of the lord'? A: Certainly not. Q: Is it possible for a single human culture to exist? A: Would it be "human" if it lost its diversity? Q: Are science and technology accellerating our 'progress' towards a single unified human culture, or are they pushing us further apart? A: neither? .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. atari, sinclair, apple DATE: 31-Dec-04 01:50:14 HOST: sverige Hallo there Marten! I have a ColorComputer setup (boxed in storage). It is certainly Motorola 6809. I was writing software application for it (native ROM BASIC), and needed assembly language for printer output (star charts). I dust it off every few years since. I have (I think still) external diskette drive, many plugin cassettes, complete office suite software, monitor interface, more dust, and good manuals. It was a very excellent package for its day. My only two other collections are vinyl LPs (which I'm disposing of in January), and Hewlett-Packard HP-IL devices which are *almost* interfaced with the CoCo/2 ;-} Peace, --avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. atari, sinclair, apple DATE: 31-Dec-04 01:50:14 HOST: sverige Hallo there Marten! I have a ColorComputer setup (boxed in storage). It is certainly Motorola 6809. I was writing software application for it (native ROM BASIC), and needed assembly language for printer output (star charts). I dust it off every few years since. I have (I think still) external diskette drive, many plugin cassettes, complete office suite software, monitor interface, more dust, and good manuals. It was a very excellent package for its day. My only two other collections are vinyl LPs (which I'm disposing of in January), and Hewlett-Packard HP-IL devices which are *almost* interfaced with the CoCo/2 ;-} Peace, --avo ...................................TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Security Compromised? DATE: 02-Jul-05 13:29:57 HOST: sverige Hiya, bb. Your first sentence looks *almost* like fud to me, so let me ask for some specific of how you consider those applications to be responsible. From my observations, the biggest risk of using peer applications is from an already insecure machine, broadcasting itself to such a large audience of potential malfeasants. I see increased firewall activity all over the port range while peer apps are running. In this scenario, it is not the applications which are insecure, but the computer upon which they are run. The second risk I see is that a requested file is delivered as something other than expected, and could be executable malware. Again, it is not the application which is insecure, but the user. The third possibility is that an incautious user will obtain a malevolent application which they expect to be a clean peering software; and then test it on an insecure system or local network. Were you thinking of something else? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Security Compromised? DATE: 02-Jul-05 13:29:57 HOST: sverige Hiya, bb. Your first sentence looks *almost* like fud to me, so let me ask for some specific of how you consider those applications to be responsible. From my observations, the biggest risk of using peer applications is from an already insecure machine, broadcasting itself to such a large audience of potential malfeasants. I see increased firewall activity all over the port range while peer apps are running. In this scenario, it is not the applications which are insecure, but the computer upon which they are run. The second risk I see is that a requested file is delivered as something other than expected, and could be executable malware. Again, it is not the application which is insecure, but the user. The third possibility is that an incautious user will obtain a malevolent application which they expect to be a clean peering software; and then test it on an insecure system or local network. Were you thinking of something else? ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. mandelbrot sets DATE: 04-Dec-05 07:10:50 HOST: sverige fractint for bsd ?? sdf ~~ Stonesoup De Fractal ?? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. mandelbrot sets DATE: 04-Dec-05 07:10:50 HOST: sverige fractint for bsd ?? sdf ~~ Stonesoup De Fractal ?? ......TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'helpdesk' coming .. DATE: 06-May-05 01:03:42 HOST: sverige Ah! .... I take this opportunity to recall us to the Unofficial Help Wiki at http://vosi.beevomit.org/sdf-help-wiki [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'helpdesk' coming .. DATE: 06-May-05 01:03:42 HOST: sverige Ah! .... I take this opportunity to recall us to the Unofficial Help Wiki at http://vosi.beevomit.org/sdf-help-wiki TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'helpdesk' coming .. DATE: 06-May-05 21:24:51 HOST: sverige it was noted, "It's annoying when knowledge is worn as a badge that must be attained with difficulty and those without are snubbed." I have also observed, not here but elsewhere, that those who claim knowledge are afraid to disclose the limit, or lack of, their knowledge in public forums of other supposedly knowledgable peers; and can be accordingly very non-helpful, tending more toward spouting derision than providing useful assistance. and of course you'll get *nothing* from a security admin :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. 'helpdesk' coming .. DATE: 06-May-05 21:24:51 HOST: sverige it was noted, "It's annoying when knowledge is worn as a badge that must be attained with difficulty and those without are snubbed." I have also observed, not here but elsewhere, that those who claim knowledge are afraid to disclose the limit, or lack of, their knowledge in public forums of other supposedly knowledgable peers; and can be accordingly very non-helpful, tending more toward spouting derision than providing useful assistance. and of course you'll get *nothing* from a security admin :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. New SDF'er DATE: 05-Nov-05 15:55:03 HOST: sverige Excellent !! Congratulations to all of you! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. New SDF'er DATE: 05-Nov-05 15:55:03 HOST: sverige Excellent !! Congratulations to all of you! .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How old are you? DATE: 07-Jun-05 01:29:19 HOST: sverige the two things I forget most often are how old I am, and how young I am; not necessarily in that sequence. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How old are you? DATE: 07-Jun-05 01:29:19 HOST: sverige the two things I forget most often are how old I am, and how young I am; not necessarily in that sequence. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. is a camera flash safe for babies? DATE: 07-Nov-05 02:59:08 HOST: sverige That's a very good question. So, here's my thoughts on it. Never forget about the law of unintended consequences; and exercise the precautionary principle; in everything, not just special things like other humans and our babies. I'm not sure how eyesight develops, but I've heard that pre-teen livers are not ready for alcoholic beverages, or caffein. Pictures in daylight are good; and since they sleep a lot, flash probably won't hurt them if eyes closed and sleeping. Definitely do not expose the baby to tobacco or other smoke; lungs are certainly immature. Thanks for caring!! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. is a camera flash safe for babies? DATE: 07-Nov-05 02:59:08 HOST: sverige That's a very good question. So, here's my thoughts on it. Never forget about the law of unintended consequences; and exercise the precautionary principle; in everything, not just special things like other humans and our babies. I'm not sure how eyesight develops, but I've heard that pre-teen livers are not ready for alcoholic beverages, or caffein. Pictures in daylight are good; and since they sleep a lot, flash probably won't hurt them if eyes closed and sleeping. Definitely do not expose the baby to tobacco or other smoke; lungs are certainly immature. Thanks for caring!! TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Cost of Hair Braiding (african american style) DATE: 13-Oct-05 15:50:13 HOST: sverige >>Girls I knew could have a friend do it for $60. But it took hours. This is my experience also. They're called "plats" in the Carib, and there is infinite variety of final results, considering which way you want the rows to run, and for how long they stick to the head. It's all about time (and imagination) and more time. Dredlocks are different. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Cost of Hair Braiding (african american style) DATE: 13-Oct-05 15:50:13 HOST: sverige >>Girls I knew could have a friend do it for $60. But it took hours. This is my experience also. They're called "plats" in the Carib, and there is infinite variety of final results, considering which way you want the rows to run, and for how long they stick to the head. It's all about time (and imagination) and more time. Dredlocks are different. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Google Down? DATE: 08-May-05 12:34:41 HOST: sverige I agree with kthorn. When these things happen, take a break at theonion.com and when you return, everything else will be fine :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Google Down? DATE: 08-May-05 12:34:41 HOST: sverige I agree with kthorn. When these things happen, take a break at theonion.com and when you return, everything else will be fine :) .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. tonight's sunset DATE: 08-Aug-05 12:43:07 HOST: sverige sweet, very sweet [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. tonight's sunset DATE: 08-Aug-05 12:43:07 HOST: sverige sweet, very sweet .....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Poll. Best place to live? DATE: 10-Apr-05 23:51:19 HOST: sverige womb -- additional text added in order to achieve minimum requirement [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Poll. Best place to live? DATE: 10-Apr-05 23:51:19 HOST: sverige womb -- additional text added in order to achieve minimum requirement ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. vegetarianism DATE: 15-Jan-05 16:25:49 HOST: sverige Many good points have been raised in this interesting discussion. It cannot be over-emphasized however that most of todays meet is, frankly, poisoned and poisonous. To a lesser degree, so is the air, and the water. It's more difficult to poison the fruits and vegetables and grains, but you can be certain that the capitalists are striving to do just that with every entry into their account books. You don't have to blame "the capitalists" for this fact, but you should accept the fact and then find your own perspective on the perpetrators. It could be the liberal horde, who knows; but the willful poisoning is real. How any government can even utter the phrase "health care" while condoning the poisoning of the environment, including water, air, and food sources, is just oxymoronic. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. vegetarianism DATE: 15-Jan-05 16:25:49 HOST: sverige Many good points have been raised in this interesting discussion. It cannot be over-emphasized however that most of todays meet is, frankly, poisoned and poisonous. To a lesser degree, so is the air, and the water. It's more difficult to poison the fruits and vegetables and grains, but you can be certain that the capitalists are striving to do just that with every entry into their account books. You don't have to blame "the capitalists" for this fact, but you should accept the fact and then find your own perspective on the perpetrators. It could be the liberal horde, who knows; but the willful poisoning is real. How any government can even utter the phrase "health care" while condoning the poisoning of the environment, including water, air, and food sources, is just oxymoronic. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. dual-line cordless phone systems DATE: 12-May-05 19:15:41 HOST: sverige My problem with Uniden, and most other phone systems, stems from my being in an area code (U.S) which requires 11-digit dialing for *everything*, and unlike cellphones which can handle this, Uniden and others refuse to program an ability to add or remove leading '1' prefixing which means I cannot call out to any incoming caller without manually dialing the number. Fucking Turd World Economy. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. dual-line cordless phone systems DATE: 12-May-05 19:15:41 HOST: sverige My problem with Uniden, and most other phone systems, stems from my being in an area code (U.S) which requires 11-digit dialing for *everything*, and unlike cellphones which can handle this, Uniden and others refuse to program an ability to add or remove leading '1' prefixing which means I cannot call out to any incoming caller without manually dialing the number. Fucking Turd World Economy. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How do payment plans work? DATE: 12-May-05 01:00:18 HOST: sverige >Your $1500 will take you 3.58 years to pay off at 14.24% with monthly payments of $45. You will have added $420.58 to the cost. That's the minimum; miss a payment and pay fees and double the interest and never recover. Just don't do it. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How do payment plans work? DATE: 12-May-05 01:00:18 HOST: sverige >Your $1500 will take you 3.58 years to pay off at 14.24% with monthly payments of $45. You will have added $420.58 to the cost. That's the minimum; miss a payment and pay fees and double the interest and never recover. Just don't do it. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stock? DATE: 14-Aug-05 13:10:11 HOST: sverige >> your house---like anything else in a capitalistic society---is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. That's not entirely true. That describes what it is worth to others. You may value it very differently, higher or lower, for many reasons. For instance, what does it cost you to repurchase and relocate if you did sell? Consider tangibles like replacement and moving expenses. Also, there is value in intangibles, amenities such as neighbors, schools, parks, etc. which a young family raising children will regard differently than a retiring couple or a dedicated bachelor. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stock? DATE: 14-Aug-05 13:10:11 HOST: sverige >> your house---like anything else in a capitalistic society---is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. That's not entirely true. That describes what it is worth to others. You may value it very differently, higher or lower, for many reasons. For instance, what does it cost you to repurchase and relocate if you did sell? Consider tangibles like replacement and moving expenses. Also, there is value in intangibles, amenities such as neighbors, schools, parks, etc. which a young family raising children will regard differently than a retiring couple or a dedicated bachelor. .....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wierd noises on computer speakers... DATE: 16-Feb-05 02:49:04 HOST: sverige Yes, with multiple different sets of cheepo speakers, and with different sound cards. Cell phone active does increase the speaker noise. ALSO, I've heard the speakers discharge the exact same sounds while the computer was powered off and unplugged. (but the speakers weren't) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wierd noises on computer speakers... DATE: 16-Feb-05 02:49:04 HOST: sverige Yes, with multiple different sets of cheepo speakers, and with different sound cards. Cell phone active does increase the speaker noise. ALSO, I've heard the speakers discharge the exact same sounds while the computer was powered off and unplugged. (but the speakers weren't) ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. colaboration DATE: 15-Jul-05 21:00:17 HOST: sverige you have to add yourself to your own group :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. colaboration DATE: 15-Jul-05 21:00:17 HOST: sverige you have to add yourself to your own group :) ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. SDF 1987-2005 .. Happy Birthday SDF! DATE: 17-Jun-05 04:38:32 HOST: sverige hoppy burpday !! nice achievement indeed [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. SDF 1987-2005 .. Happy Birthday SDF! DATE: 17-Jun-05 04:38:32 HOST: sverige hoppy burpday !! nice achievement indeed ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Great Firewall of China DATE: 17-Aug-05 13:40:06 HOST: sverige quixada, you can poke at your system from your sdf account :) cotse.net provides tunnels and proxys to many happy customers on that side of the planet. You have the right plan at home, to ssh to a friendly proxy, perhaps on an alternate set of ports. The wall in question blocks destination IPs more successfully than ports. Perhaps they block traffic to known blocks of dynamic IPs? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Great Firewall of China DATE: 17-Aug-05 13:40:06 HOST: sverige quixada, you can poke at your system from your sdf account :) cotse.net provides tunnels and proxys to many happy customers on that side of the planet. You have the right plan at home, to ssh to a friendly proxy, perhaps on an alternate set of ports. The wall in question blocks destination IPs more successfully than ports. Perhaps they block traffic to known blocks of dynamic IPs? .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ebay sniping tool DATE: 19-Jul-05 20:29:48 HOST: sverige quick question: What is "sniping" on eBay? Thanks :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ebay sniping tool DATE: 19-Jul-05 20:29:48 HOST: sverige quick question: What is "sniping" on eBay? Thanks :) ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. rpn calculator DATE: 20-Apr-05 00:23:37 HOST: sverige Is HP still providing current 48 series? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. rpn calculator DATE: 20-Apr-05 00:23:37 HOST: sverige Is HP still providing current 48 series? ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. CLI AIM client? DATE: 21-Sep-05 22:31:37 HOST: sverige >>Bitlbee seems kinda cool but there's just somethin about it that i don't trust. If there is anything attached to the internet which is not trustworthy, it is IM. or so it seems to me anyway. #2 is MSN, Yahoo, Google [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. CLI AIM client? DATE: 21-Sep-05 22:31:37 HOST: sverige >>Bitlbee seems kinda cool but there's just somethin about it that i don't trust. If there is anything attached to the internet which is not trustworthy, it is IM. or so it seems to me anyway. #2 is MSN, Yahoo, Google ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. From Iraq, A Message to the people of America DATE: 22-Mar-05 06:36:27 HOST: sverige Nice post, willy; but it appeals to humans, because you are one. And there are still some humans in teh Americas, but in the Northern American rulership, there are no humans, only corporations and their robots. All the truths which you present have been relegated to the bin aof irrelevance. Teh Empire is after your mineral and oil resources; and your land for military bases; not just in Afghanistan and Iraq, but everywhere. Humans cannot stop it; it can only self destruct which is imminent. Please do not usloose your humanity, your spirituality, between now and then. Terminal issues render this post unreadable to me; please forgive w hatever illiteracies result. In [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. From Iraq, A Message to the people of America DATE: 22-Mar-05 06:36:27 HOST: sverige Nice post, willy; but it appeals to humans, because you are one. And there are still some humans in teh Americas, but in the Northern American rulership, there are no humans, only corporations and their robots. All the truths which you present have been relegated to the bin aof irrelevance. Teh Empire is after your mineral and oil resources; and your land for military bases; not just in Afghanistan and Iraq, but everywhere. Humans cannot stop it; it can only self destruct which is imminent. Please do not usloose your humanity, your spirituality, between now and then. Terminal issues render this post unreadable to me; please forgive w hatever illiteracies result. In .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. net addiction DATE: 07-Sep-05 19:02:18 HOST: sverige This article may help http://www.oriononline.org/pages/om/05-5om/Monke.html [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. net addiction DATE: 07-Sep-05 19:02:18 HOST: sverige This article may help http://www.oriononline.org/pages/om/05-5om/Monke.html ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The world superpower isn't the usa DATE: 24-Mar-05 13:10:37 HOST: sverige and all the money and all the manufacturing. But!! the U.S. has, or at least 'had', enough fertile agriculture to feed the world. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The world superpower isn't the usa DATE: 24-Mar-05 13:10:37 HOST: sverige and all the money and all the manufacturing. But!! the U.S. has, or at least 'had', enough fertile agriculture to feed the world. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The world superpower isn't the usa DATE: 24-Mar-05 13:41:12 HOST: sverige http://www.pbs.org/previews/1421/ 1421 : the year China discovered America ? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The world superpower isn't the usa DATE: 24-Mar-05 13:41:12 HOST: sverige http://www.pbs.org/previews/1421/ 1421 : the year China discovered America ? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The world superpower isn't the usa DATE: 24-Mar-05 23:35:47 HOST: sverige Nice, Dan. Very nice! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The world superpower isn't the usa DATE: 24-Mar-05 23:35:47 HOST: sverige Nice, Dan. Very nice! .....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Municipal organic waste pick-up DATE: 24-May-05 11:48:58 HOST: sverige The first thing to do would be to find the organization which wants to manage the composting; if they have users and a facility, then you can look for transportation. Interested parties may, or may not, include park district, botanic garden, garden club, possibly even public works dept., or even political will in local governance. Good luck! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Municipal organic waste pick-up DATE: 24-May-05 11:48:58 HOST: sverige The first thing to do would be to find the organization which wants to manage the composting; if they have users and a facility, then you can look for transportation. Interested parties may, or may not, include park district, botanic garden, garden club, possibly even public works dept., or even political will in local governance. Good luck! ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. got a new job offer DATE: 26-Jul-05 11:36:52 HOST: sverige corster, your post got a little sidetracked with the ADF rant :) My counsel on this matter is that you consider a)what happens when the new offer doesn't work out?, b)how easily you can find any other job better than current, c)your life position with risk, d)karma down the lifeline. It sounds like your current employment (about which we know less than we do about your former) hasn't chased you away, and is a situation which you could easily discuss with them/him; and that he might even be honest and open with you about his situation (like you say, can't find integrity everywhere), so that you can engineer a situation where everybody wins and nobody loses. It is *always* best to strive for winners rather than losers. Worst case scenario, you could change jobs; former employment could fold without your support; new employment could fold because it took too much risk; and you'd be ... Short form: do the bold thing but don't hurt anybody along the way. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. got a new job offer DATE: 26-Jul-05 11:36:52 HOST: sverige corster, your post got a little sidetracked with the ADF rant :) My counsel on this matter is that you consider a)what happens when the new offer doesn't work out?, b)how easily you can find any other job better than current, c)your life position with risk, d)karma down the lifeline. It sounds like your current employment (about which we know less than we do about your former) hasn't chased you away, and is a situation which you could easily discuss with them/him; and that he might even be honest and open with you about his situation (like you say, can't find integrity everywhere), so that you can engineer a situation where everybody wins and nobody loses. It is *always* best to strive for winners rather than losers. Worst case scenario, you could change jobs; former employment could fold without your support; new employment could fold because it took too much risk; and you'd be ... Short form: do the bold thing but don't hurt anybody along the way. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. got a new job offer DATE: 27-Jul-05 03:30:05 HOST: sverige It might be nearly time to go independant, hang your shingle as a consultant, and refer to those incomes as clients rather than bosses. You'll have to charge them enough to cover your expenses and benefits and taxes and insurances and all but note that the general employment scheme is that billable rate is approximately equal thirds of direct expenses (wages), indirect expenses (overhead and benefits to employees), profit (incl. depreciation) ... so that if an employer pays you $1 per hour, they have additional expenses of $1/hr which are directly attributal to your employment, and they bill their clients $3/hr minimum for your time; not necessarily that they bill for your hourly time, but that your time/expense is figured (well or not) into a project deliverable unit rather than base "time and materials". [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. got a new job offer DATE: 27-Jul-05 03:30:05 HOST: sverige It might be nearly time to go independant, hang your shingle as a consultant, and refer to those incomes as clients rather than bosses. You'll have to charge them enough to cover your expenses and benefits and taxes and insurances and all but note that the general employment scheme is that billable rate is approximately equal thirds of direct expenses (wages), indirect expenses (overhead and benefits to employees), profit (incl. depreciation) ... so that if an employer pays you $1 per hour, they have additional expenses of $1/hr which are directly attributal to your employment, and they bill their clients $3/hr minimum for your time; not necessarily that they bill for your hourly time, but that your time/expense is figured (well or not) into a project deliverable unit rather than base "time and materials". .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BLOGS- Are they worth the time and effort? DATE: 13-Oct-05 15:54:55 HOST: sverige "The Internet is now teeming with some 15 million blogs. ... Nearly half of bloggers consider it a form of therapy ..." http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/1429 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BLOGS- Are they worth the time and effort? DATE: 13-Oct-05 15:54:55 HOST: sverige "The Internet is now teeming with some 15 million blogs. ... Nearly half of bloggers consider it a form of therapy ..." http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/1429 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BLOGS- Are they worth the time and effort? DATE: 27-Sep-05 13:48:01 HOST: sverige One excellent use of blogs is for families with travellers; and for other collaborative groups. I just installed (not here) b2evolution which has the interesting feature of presenting multiple blogs, and a "merged" blog which puts them all into sequence. I find the ability to post independently, and to comment back, to be useful and pretty well organized; though a wiki is also looking to be good in this regard as well. I have not yet stumbled across a single tool which does both, which is fine. It took a few minutes however to remove all the "trackback" features by which much blogware has grown into devices intent upon gaining search engine rankings. For a private, family, or group, site which doesn't want to be discovered or archived, well .... I probably don't have to elaborate. Interesting that this topic should arise (and too bad it didn't get its own board), since I'm presently evaluating both, and looking for other collaborative tools. For wikis, I've setup PMwiki (on SDF) and MediaWiki (Wikipedia engine), and am still researching for the preferred overall feature set. I'll note here that MediaWiki is being developed with a focus on Wikipedia type projects, and comes up short in areas of access controls, multiple concurrent projects, upload flexibility, and (of all things) footnoting. --Avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BLOGS- Are they worth the time and effort? DATE: 27-Sep-05 13:48:01 HOST: sverige One excellent use of blogs is for families with travellers; and for other collaborative groups. I just installed (not here) b2evolution which has the interesting feature of presenting multiple blogs, and a "merged" blog which puts them all into sequence. I find the ability to post independently, and to comment back, to be useful and pretty well organized; though a wiki is also looking to be good in this regard as well. I have not yet stumbled across a single tool which does both, which is fine. It took a few minutes however to remove all the "trackback" features by which much blogware has grown into devices intent upon gaining search engine rankings. For a private, family, or group, site which doesn't want to be discovered or archived, well .... I probably don't have to elaborate. Interesting that this topic should arise (and too bad it didn't get its own board), since I'm presently evaluating both, and looking for other collaborative tools. For wikis, I've setup PMwiki (on SDF) and MediaWiki (Wikipedia engine), and am still researching for the preferred overall feature set. I'll note here that MediaWiki is being developed with a focus on Wikipedia type projects, and comes up short in areas of access controls, multiple concurrent projects, upload flexibility, and (of all things) footnoting. --Avo .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Home IDS suggestions DATE: 27-Aug-05 14:19:17 HOST: sverige fx.dk I run it on my desktop/gateway system for the soho lan, with other running services for for time, dns, mail, webproxy, ssh_tunnels Feel free to contact me directly with specific questions. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Home IDS suggestions DATE: 27-Aug-05 14:19:17 HOST: sverige fx.dk I run it on my desktop/gateway system for the soho lan, with other running services for for time, dns, mail, webproxy, ssh_tunnels Feel free to contact me directly with specific questions. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. area question DATE: 28-Aug-05 21:03:08 HOST: sverige the question posed is its own answer, and it is about volume, not area. IIRC, which I do in this case, think length times width times height, in inches, to equal 790 since you asked [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. area question DATE: 28-Aug-05 21:03:08 HOST: sverige the question posed is its own answer, and it is about volume, not area. IIRC, which I do in this case, think length times width times height, in inches, to equal 790 since you asked TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. area question DATE: 29-Aug-05 12:44:33 HOST: sverige google is over-used; you should be able to do this stuff in your head. textbook 12" x 8" x 2" is 192ci in less time than it takes to type out 'google' sheesh; education these days .... [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. area question DATE: 29-Aug-05 12:44:33 HOST: sverige google is over-used; you should be able to do this stuff in your head. textbook 12" x 8" x 2" is 192ci in less time than it takes to type out 'google' sheesh; education these days .... .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Hi and stuff DATE: 29-Jul-05 03:55:40 HOST: sverige OS/2 has been killed yet again. maybe [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Hi and stuff DATE: 29-Jul-05 03:55:40 HOST: sverige OS/2 has been killed yet again. maybe .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I got hacked! DATE: 29-Jun-05 03:25:43 HOST: sverige obscure userid makes sense to me dontchathink:silly ? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I got hacked! DATE: 29-Jun-05 03:25:43 HOST: sverige obscure userid makes sense to me dontchathink:silly ? .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BBOARD for WWW DATE: 29-Mar-05 03:22:42 HOST: sverige It should be said that this project by jumex was well done, if not well received. I'll raise a toast to the accomplishment. Also, while I do not want bboard exposed to the public Internet crawlers, I do not view SDF as a security service, and I acknowledge the challenges of good security. It was/is possible that this, and perhaps other, projects be implemented without our knowledge until "too late". Preventing such things is an idea worthy of consideration, eh? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BBOARD for WWW DATE: 29-Mar-05 03:22:42 HOST: sverige It should be said that this project by jumex was well done, if not well received. I'll raise a toast to the accomplishment. Also, while I do not want bboard exposed to the public Internet crawlers, I do not view SDF as a security service, and I acknowledge the challenges of good security. It was/is possible that this, and perhaps other, projects be implemented without our knowledge until "too late". Preventing such things is an idea worthy of consideration, eh? .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Windows Windows everywhere... DATE: 29-Nov-05 15:54:44 HOST: sverige I still use hp200lx .... full PIM, 1-2-3, database, editor, serial i/o, runs DOS programs, ... [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Windows Windows everywhere... DATE: 29-Nov-05 15:54:44 HOST: sverige I still use hp200lx .... full PIM, 1-2-3, database, editor, serial i/o, runs DOS programs, ... ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. autocad .plt files DATE: 30-Jun-05 01:54:53 HOST: sverige The trouble with this approach is that .plt files are printer specific, whether raster or vector or anything else. It's not that they don't convert well; but that it's hard to know what format they're in to convert from. The better solution, and I do this regularly, is to have the source application print to a PostScript file; and use GhostScript or GhostView or GSview to convert the .ps to .pdf or anything else it's capable of; or to just send your printer or plotter. .ps/.pdf is a good format for transfer between different users .plt is a temporary file between the application and a specific printer, used for one-time file generation and multiple printings via "copy /b output.prn prn" (DOS syntax) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. autocad .plt files DATE: 30-Jun-05 01:54:53 HOST: sverige The trouble with this approach is that .plt files are printer specific, whether raster or vector or anything else. It's not that they don't convert well; but that it's hard to know what format they're in to convert from. The better solution, and I do this regularly, is to have the source application print to a PostScript file; and use GhostScript or GhostView or GSview to convert the .ps to .pdf or anything else it's capable of; or to just send your printer or plotter. .ps/.pdf is a good format for transfer between different users .plt is a temporary file between the application and a specific printer, used for one-time file generation and multiple printings via "copy /b output.prn prn" (DOS syntax) ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Cut your own hair? DATE: 30-Jun-05 13:47:46 HOST: sverige what? you don't have a sharp kitchen knife? machette? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Cut your own hair? DATE: 30-Jun-05 13:47:46 HOST: sverige what? you don't have a sharp kitchen knife? machette? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Map of the Netherlands? DATE: 31-Jul-05 13:12:30 HOST: sverige here's a couple to try also: http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/index.html http://www.getty.edu/research/conducting_research/vocabularies/tgn/index.html What is now the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency was formerly the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) was formerly the Defense Mapping Agency (DMA) offshore counterpart to the USGS National Mapping Division all in the U.S. other interesting sites, potentially useful ... http://www.nationalgeographic.com/siteindex/maps.html http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Map of the Netherlands? DATE: 31-Jul-05 13:12:30 HOST: sverige here's a couple to try also: http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/index.html http://www.getty.edu/research/conducting_research/vocabularies/tgn/index.html What is now the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency was formerly the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) was formerly the Defense Mapping Agency (DMA) offshore counterpart to the USGS National Mapping Division all in the U.S. other interesting sites, potentially useful ... http://www.nationalgeographic.com/siteindex/maps.html http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 01-Jun-05 15:38:30 HOST: sverige Be careful in discussing this because the definition of "democracy" has been hijacked to frequently now refer to unrestrained global market domination having more to do with exploitation than representation. It has essentially become a useless word due to this. And when you hear "freedom is on the march" and you see what's actually happening, you can fear for the future value of that word also. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 01-Jun-05 15:38:30 HOST: sverige Be careful in discussing this because the definition of "democracy" has been hijacked to frequently now refer to unrestrained global market domination having more to do with exploitation than representation. It has essentially become a useless word due to this. And when you hear "freedom is on the march" and you see what's actually happening, you can fear for the future value of that word also. TACKER: plewylli (Peter Lewyllie) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 01-Jun-05 15:58:31 HOST: otaku Well, John, my question was mostly directed towards Martin anyway since he seems really opposed to the proposed constitution. Myself I especially liked the part which defines the rights for a European citizen. How the actual representation is worked out, it looks a lot more manageable than how it is now. That it's not perfect, ok, but I did not expect it to be. Nothing's perfect. Especially when we have to agree with a lot of partners on one text. But it's a start. If you say no to that, that's just... just... I don't understand... I'm really annoyed by the french non, really... kind regards, Peter PS: avoyager, this is about the EU, not about the US [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: plewylli (Peter Lewyllie) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 01-Jun-05 15:58:31 HOST: otaku Well, John, my question was mostly directed towards Martin anyway since he seems really opposed to the proposed constitution. Myself I especially liked the part which defines the rights for a European citizen. How the actual representation is worked out, it looks a lot more manageable than how it is now. That it's not perfect, ok, but I did not expect it to be. Nothing's perfect. Especially when we have to agree with a lot of partners on one text. But it's a start. If you say no to that, that's just... just... I don't understand... I'm really annoyed by the french non, really... kind regards, Peter PS: avoyager, this is about the EU, not about the US TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 04-Jun-05 14:15:57 HOST: sverige Chris: I understand that also the Dutch West Indies Company was part of the problem in the days of early US colonization. My current synopsis is that the U.S. in particular made a fatal mistake in letting "the economy" or more specifically "the market" gain control of the government. It is my firm belief that an economy or an economic model should be the *tool* of government. As voters, U.S. citizens have obviously lost control; the notion of democracy in the U.S. is a pretense. There is no informed electorate; there is not an electorate which votes; and officials in office are not representing the views, rights, and causes of their public constituency. Since the government is controlled by "the market", that is the only place where citizens can have an influence, not as citizens but as consumers, or non-consumers. Sadly, the public isn't generally well informed about these matters. For the last fifty years and longer, U.S. society has developed a culture of willful deception, and a tolerance of the same, which is in my view disgusting. It seems that this culture of deception is motivated by, and principal tool of, market domination over not just social causes but the basic activities of self-governance. The scene becomes really bizarre with the connection with religion; for almost all religions and advanced civilizations now vanished figured out that the only real purpose of the human experience is to love one another, with tolerance, toleration, and kindness, and giving to others. Selfish greed and exploitation is well understood to be a path of sure destruction; self-destruction; as its proponents lie to each other and eventually to themselves. Walmart devours the healthy decentralized economies, depends upon "growth" which is not sustainable. A free market, capitalist, consumer economy requires consumers with discretionary spending power; the middle class. I heard this week (sorry no citation) that the size of the U.S. middle class, by proportion of population, is significantly smaller than that of other industralized nations. The economic model has already failed. It is not distributing enough purchasing power to sustain itself no less add to its growth. It is this failed economic model which is running the country into the ground. The current administration is actively and openly and proudly plundering the public treasury, and its not even being talked about. It is my hope that Europe can avoid this pitfall; and that Latin America will continue to reverse the damage done there by U.S. intervention; and that Americans will start to wise up and take their country back before polluting it to extinction. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 04-Jun-05 14:15:57 HOST: sverige Chris: I understand that also the Dutch West Indies Company was part of the problem in the days of early US colonization. My current synopsis is that the U.S. in particular made a fatal mistake in letting "the economy" or more specifically "the market" gain control of the government. It is my firm belief that an economy or an economic model should be the *tool* of government. As voters, U.S. citizens have obviously lost control; the notion of democracy in the U.S. is a pretense. There is no informed electorate; there is not an electorate which votes; and officials in office are not representing the views, rights, and causes of their public constituency. Since the government is controlled by "the market", that is the only place where citizens can have an influence, not as citizens but as consumers, or non-consumers. Sadly, the public isn't generally well informed about these matters. For the last fifty years and longer, U.S. society has developed a culture of willful deception, and a tolerance of the same, which is in my view disgusting. It seems that this culture of deception is motivated by, and principal tool of, market domination over not just social causes but the basic activities of self-governance. The scene becomes really bizarre with the connection with religion; for almost all religions and advanced civilizations now vanished figured out that the only real purpose of the human experience is to love one another, with tolerance, toleration, and kindness, and giving to others. Selfish greed and exploitation is well understood to be a path of sure destruction; self-destruction; as its proponents lie to each other and eventually to themselves. Walmart devours the healthy decentralized economies, depends upon "growth" which is not sustainable. A free market, capitalist, consumer economy requires consumers with discretionary spending power; the middle class. I heard this week (sorry no citation) that the size of the U.S. middle class, by proportion of population, is significantly smaller than that of other industralized nations. The economic model has already failed. It is not distributing enough purchasing power to sustain itself no less add to its growth. It is this failed economic model which is running the country into the ground. The current administration is actively and openly and proudly plundering the public treasury, and its not even being talked about. It is my hope that Europe can avoid this pitfall; and that Latin America will continue to reverse the damage done there by U.S. intervention; and that Americans will start to wise up and take their country back before polluting it to extinction. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 04-Jun-05 16:00:00 HOST: sverige some other material at http://www.pinr.com/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. EU constitution(colon) referendums. DATE: 04-Jun-05 16:00:00 HOST: sverige some other material at http://www.pinr.com/ ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Groups and Yahoo DATE: 17-Aug-05 13:46:43 HOST: sverige The asshole who thinks google groups is "just an archive" hasn't looked very closely since they implemented their beta-groups makeover about a year ago. There are groups which descriptions use the words googlegroup and yahoogroup interchangeably. Google groups includes yahoo based groups as well as usenet, and possibly their own stuff as well. You can "start a group" at google groups. But you have to subscribe first, and I'm not going down that path to find the answer to my question. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Groups and Yahoo DATE: 17-Aug-05 13:46:43 HOST: sverige The asshole who thinks google groups is "just an archive" hasn't looked very closely since they implemented their beta-groups makeover about a year ago. There are groups which descriptions use the words googlegroup and yahoogroup interchangeably. Google groups includes yahoo based groups as well as usenet, and possibly their own stuff as well. You can "start a group" at google groups. But you have to subscribe first, and I'm not going down that path to find the answer to my question. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Google's Own Private Internet DATE: 21-Sep-05 23:04:37 HOST: sverige Personally, I suspect that the "zombie network" is equally "scary" but in a very different way. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Google's Own Private Internet DATE: 21-Sep-05 23:04:37 HOST: sverige Personally, I suspect that the "zombie network" is equally "scary" but in a very different way. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. SDF Gopher Server DATE: 19-Oct-05 03:00:27 HOST: sverige .... and all it's dependencies .... then everybody, even EVERYbody, spends the next couple weeks .... um, .... recovering. Smile. :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. SDF Gopher Server DATE: 19-Oct-05 03:00:27 HOST: sverige .... and all it's dependencies .... then everybody, even EVERYbody, spends the next couple weeks .... um, .... recovering. Smile. :) ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. ProFtp/Firefox problem DATE: 01-Apr-05 19:43:10 HOST: sverige Similarly it could be an interface binding issue. Check that local firefox is addressing the public IP of the ftpserver; in case ftpserver is not bound to (listening on) localhost. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. ProFtp/Firefox problem DATE: 01-Apr-05 19:43:10 HOST: sverige Similarly it could be an interface binding issue. Check that local firefox is addressing the public IP of the ftpserver; in case ftpserver is not bound to (listening on) localhost. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Incorrect delivery DATE: 02-Aug-05 02:03:54 HOST: sverige >>"Why would an email to a nonexistant user bxtpa2.jzd@sdf.lonestar.org arrive in my email?" It could have been forwarded, aliased, or possibly you're looking at a forged To: field in the header rather than the Envelope-To of the delivery. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Incorrect delivery DATE: 02-Aug-05 02:03:54 HOST: sverige >>"Why would an email to a nonexistant user bxtpa2.jzd@sdf.lonestar.org arrive in my email?" It could have been forwarded, aliased, or possibly you're looking at a forged To: field in the header rather than the Envelope-To of the delivery. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. automate mdns? DATE: 04-Jan-05 03:45:08 HOST: sverige or use a local cron to an sdf based html/cgi target. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. automate mdns? DATE: 04-Jan-05 03:45:08 HOST: sverige or use a local cron to an sdf based html/cgi target. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. webquota exceeded yesterday, but still not able to see page DATE: 03-May-05 03:25:38 HOST: sverige reading the page delivered in reponse to request for your site, I see that you've exceeded the bandwidth quota, which is different from the diskspace quota. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. webquota exceeded yesterday, but still not able to see page DATE: 03-May-05 03:25:38 HOST: sverige reading the page delivered in reponse to request for your site, I see that you've exceeded the bandwidth quota, which is different from the diskspace quota. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. webquota exceeded yesterday, but still not able to see page DATE: 03-May-05 11:23:07 HOST: sverige try running mkhomepg again [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. webquota exceeded yesterday, but still not able to see page DATE: 03-May-05 11:23:07 HOST: sverige try running mkhomepg again TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My address being used for spam? DATE: 04-Oct-05 01:56:01 HOST: sverige What happens is that spammers forge your address as sender of their spewage. There's not much you can do about that. To ease the load on your box, you can contrive filters for them, or dispose of the alias. Mail system admins should reject, rather than bounce, those things, but for various reasons and with various excuses, many refuse to do so. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. My address being used for spam? DATE: 04-Oct-05 01:56:01 HOST: sverige What happens is that spammers forge your address as sender of their spewage. There's not much you can do about that. To ease the load on your box, you can contrive filters for them, or dispose of the alias. Mail system admins should reject, rather than bounce, those things, but for various reasons and with various excuses, many refuse to do so. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Why does my site keep refusing connections? DATE: 04-Oct-05 12:13:01 HOST: sverige Hi. Your posts indicate that you have some indicator that something is happening which you don't understand. Perhaps you could post that indictor or describe its indications in order to provide your potential assistors with more detail. Also, have you considered the possibility of "server load", whether or not the web server has a connection limit, or a rate limit, and what it might do when it reaches that limit? --avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Why does my site keep refusing connections? DATE: 04-Oct-05 12:13:01 HOST: sverige Hi. Your posts indicate that you have some indicator that something is happening which you don't understand. Perhaps you could post that indictor or describe its indications in order to provide your potential assistors with more detail. Also, have you considered the possibility of "server load", whether or not the web server has a connection limit, or a rate limit, and what it might do when it reaches that limit? --avo TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Why does my site keep refusing connections? DATE: 04-Oct-05 13:52:51 HOST: sverige webserver is currently "down" $ telnet jaysonic.freeshell.org 80 Trying 192.94.73.4... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused $ date Tue Oct 4 13:52:18 UTC 2005 It'll be back. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Why does my site keep refusing connections? DATE: 04-Oct-05 13:52:51 HOST: sverige webserver is currently "down" $ telnet jaysonic.freeshell.org 80 Trying 192.94.73.4... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused $ date Tue Oct 4 13:52:18 UTC 2005 It'll be back. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Why does my site keep refusing connections? DATE: 04-Oct-05 16:22:17 HOST: sverige measly, I said nothing about 'webquota'. Read my posts again; carefully this time :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Why does my site keep refusing connections? DATE: 04-Oct-05 16:22:17 HOST: sverige measly, I said nothing about 'webquota'. Read my posts again; carefully this time :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Mail rejected... DATE: 05-Jun-05 14:25:52 HOST: sverige It looks like something is wrong at private.com [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Mail rejected... DATE: 05-Jun-05 14:25:52 HOST: sverige It looks like something is wrong at private.com .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. .screenrc help DATE: 07-Apr-05 11:17:16 HOST: sverige a good find however ;-} I am also building a .screenrc file, in novice mode. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. .screenrc help DATE: 07-Apr-05 11:17:16 HOST: sverige a good find however ;-} I am also building a .screenrc file, in novice mode. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Converting avi to mpg DATE: 10-Jan-05 23:12:12 HOST: sverige perhaps this can be of use: http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Converting avi to mpg DATE: 10-Jan-05 23:12:12 HOST: sverige perhaps this can be of use: http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/ TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. /html permissions DATE: 08-Jun-05 12:38:57 HOST: sverige $ ls -ld ~hermoyne drwxr-xr-x 4 hermoyne arpa 512 Jun 8 10:29 /arpa/hm/h/hermoyne$ $ ls -ldL ~hermoyne/html d--------- 10 hermoyne nobody 1024 Jun 8 08:13 /arpa/hm/h/hermoyne/html $ uinfo hermoyne Created: Mon Aug 23 09:51 2004 on ttyp0 from 192.94.73.3 Validated: Mon Aug 23 17:27 2004 Joined ARPA: Mon Aug 23 17:27 2004 $ groups hermoyne new $ date Wed Jun 8 12:40:48 UTC 2005 $ just clues; no aolutions [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. /html permissions DATE: 08-Jun-05 12:38:57 HOST: sverige $ ls -ld ~hermoyne drwxr-xr-x 4 hermoyne arpa 512 Jun 8 10:29 /arpa/hm/h/hermoyne$ $ ls -ldL ~hermoyne/html d--------- 10 hermoyne nobody 1024 Jun 8 08:13 /arpa/hm/h/hermoyne/html $ uinfo hermoyne Created: Mon Aug 23 09:51 2004 on ttyp0 from 192.94.73.3 Validated: Mon Aug 23 17:27 2004 Joined ARPA: Mon Aug 23 17:27 2004 $ groups hermoyne new $ date Wed Jun 8 12:40:48 UTC 2005 $ just clues; no aolutions .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Easy way to get IP address(es) with UNIX? DATE: 08-Sep-05 04:11:26 HOST: sverige enjoy netstat [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Easy way to get IP address(es) with UNIX? DATE: 08-Sep-05 04:11:26 HOST: sverige enjoy netstat .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. scp for validated users? DATE: 10-May-05 00:07:01 HOST: sverige $ ls -l `which scp` -rwxr-x--- 1 root arpa 46544 Sep 18 2003 /usr/pkg/bin/scp scp and ssh are provided with ARPA membership [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. scp for validated users? DATE: 10-May-05 00:07:01 HOST: sverige $ ls -l `which scp` -rwxr-x--- 1 root arpa 46544 Sep 18 2003 /usr/pkg/bin/scp scp and ssh are provided with ARPA membership ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Giving someone a place to send a file. DATE: 12-Jan-05 13:48:38 HOST: sverige two thoughts on this: a. create an account for them on SDF. has cost, additional benefits, is perhaps most convenient for both of you. b. have htem email you when the file is ready, and then fire up your local ftp server for a short day only. c. use the data as images for greeting cards, business cards, wall art, etc. Cheers, --avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Giving someone a place to send a file. DATE: 12-Jan-05 13:48:38 HOST: sverige two thoughts on this: a. create an account for them on SDF. has cost, additional benefits, is perhaps most convenient for both of you. b. have htem email you when the file is ready, and then fire up your local ftp server for a short day only. c. use the data as images for greeting cards, business cards, wall art, etc. Cheers, --avo .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Uploading files to server (from SDF) DATE: 12-Mar-05 22:10:08 HOST: sverige I've always had trouble with scp. Does it require an existing SSH connection? I can't picture how to run it through an existing connection however, unless it runs on the remote. The alternative is that it creates its own connection for the file transfer, and is run independently, but in the same manner as, SSH. Please, is it 'A' or 'B' ? and Thank you. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Uploading files to server (from SDF) DATE: 12-Mar-05 22:10:08 HOST: sverige I've always had trouble with scp. Does it require an existing SSH connection? I can't picture how to run it through an existing connection however, unless it runs on the remote. The alternative is that it creates its own connection for the file transfer, and is run independently, but in the same manner as, SSH. Please, is it 'A' or 'B' ? and Thank you. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Uploading files to server (from SDF) DATE: 13-Mar-05 05:27:29 HOST: sverige Thank you. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Uploading files to server (from SDF) DATE: 13-Mar-05 05:27:29 HOST: sverige Thank you. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. bboard search DATE: 13-Jan-05 19:50:12 HOST: sverige may have broken something! now the bulletin in HELP: SUBJECT: .. Giving someone a place to send a file. is no longer listed. In a earch it appears as could it be the leading dots? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. bboard search DATE: 13-Jan-05 19:50:12 HOST: sverige may have broken something! now the bulletin in HELP: SUBJECT: .. Giving someone a place to send a file. is no longer listed. In a earch it appears as could it be the leading dots? .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Controlling access with SSL certs DATE: 15-Apr-05 11:49:03 HOST: sverige I think it was a fine idea, certainly worth pursuing. Next you might look into VPN for everybody. You could start at fx.dk [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Controlling access with SSL certs DATE: 15-Apr-05 11:49:03 HOST: sverige I think it was a fine idea, certainly worth pursuing. Next you might look into VPN for everybody. You could start at fx.dk .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Redirecting Standard Output DATE: 17-Feb-05 05:42:26 HOST: sverige Yes you can; just watch and see. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Redirecting Standard Output DATE: 17-Feb-05 05:42:26 HOST: sverige Yes you can; just watch and see. ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. i deserve a usability prize for this DATE: 18-May-05 20:01:45 HOST: sverige "click" is military-speak for "hop, skip, and jump", as in "the target is just five clicks from here". [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. i deserve a usability prize for this DATE: 18-May-05 20:01:45 HOST: sverige "click" is military-speak for "hop, skip, and jump", as in "the target is just five clicks from here". TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. webpage redirection problem DATE: 18-Jun-05 16:17:16 HOST: sverige ErrorDocument 404 is sufficient to use the default 404 handler [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. webpage redirection problem DATE: 18-Jun-05 16:17:16 HOST: sverige ErrorDocument 404 is sufficient to use the default 404 handler ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Trouble with basic auth on my SDF web site DATE: 20-Jul-05 16:32:10 HOST: sverige the .htpasswd file must in the the /www/.... root path to your webspace, which is linked to from ~/html [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Trouble with basic auth on my SDF web site DATE: 20-Jul-05 16:32:10 HOST: sverige the .htpasswd file must in the the /www/.... root path to your webspace, which is linked to from ~/html .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. cupla (metaARPA) quests DATE: 20-May-05 22:18:24 HOST: sverige > I want MetaARPA in part cuz of mdns. I read up on it a bit and understand > how to update IP. BUt there must be clients/programs that can do this > updating automatically, right? But even more importantly: is there a way to > make mdns resolve to my webspace on sdf when my webserver is offline? 1. you need to create properly formatted files .mdns and .mdns.update in ~/ Maybe by cgi; maybe by scp. There is earlier discussion of this in the bboard archive for 2005, else 2004 2. With a vhost membership, I'd wager that your.mdns.org url could be added to the SDF host; the trick would be to update the IP; maybe run a chron to test for your.mdns.org response and if fail fallback to the appropriate SDF IP by same proc as #1 above. --Maynard [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. cupla (metaARPA) quests DATE: 20-May-05 22:18:24 HOST: sverige > I want MetaARPA in part cuz of mdns. I read up on it a bit and understand > how to update IP. BUt there must be clients/programs that can do this > updating automatically, right? But even more importantly: is there a way to > make mdns resolve to my webspace on sdf when my webserver is offline? 1. you need to create properly formatted files .mdns and .mdns.update in ~/ Maybe by cgi; maybe by scp. There is earlier discussion of this in the bboard archive for 2005, else 2004 2. With a vhost membership, I'd wager that your.mdns.org url could be added to the SDF host; the trick would be to update the IP; maybe run a chron to test for your.mdns.org response and if fail fallback to the appropriate SDF IP by same proc as #1 above. --Maynard TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. What machine did I last log into? DATE: 20-Sep-05 00:54:45 HOST: sverige enhance ywho by putting the list of servers into /.yhosts (one per line) rather than on the commandline. :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. What machine did I last log into? DATE: 20-Sep-05 00:54:45 HOST: sverige enhance ywho by putting the list of servers into /.yhosts (one per line) rather than on the commandline. :) .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stuck email? DATE: 22-Jul-05 15:37:40 HOST: sverige The easiest thing is to copy the mail to yourself at your SDF and preferably yet another outside addy. If there is still one missing, then in addition to manually sending via sendmail as suggested, you could use 'host' or 'dig' to discover the receiving MTA for your domain, and then manually telnet to it, sending an email my manually entering SMTP commands as described by RFC 2821 (which you can learn to do in <30 min.)? This way, you personally witness its arrival at your domain host; and may optionally have a log of the transaction with which to confront the admin there. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stuck email? DATE: 22-Jul-05 15:37:40 HOST: sverige The easiest thing is to copy the mail to yourself at your SDF and preferably yet another outside addy. If there is still one missing, then in addition to manually sending via sendmail as suggested, you could use 'host' or 'dig' to discover the receiving MTA for your domain, and then manually telnet to it, sending an email my manually entering SMTP commands as described by RFC 2821 (which you can learn to do in <30 min.)? This way, you personally witness its arrival at your domain host; and may optionally have a log of the transaction with which to confront the admin there. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stuck email? DATE: 23-Jul-05 16:18:28 HOST: sverige It looks to me that the recipient is being aliased to dev/nul by the SDF outbound relay at 192.94.73.21 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stuck email? DATE: 23-Jul-05 16:18:28 HOST: sverige It looks to me that the recipient is being aliased to dev/nul by the SDF outbound relay at 192.94.73.21 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stuck email? DATE: 24-Jul-05 04:21:35 HOST: sverige If it is still true, try posting to the REQUESTS board on bboard, a request that the alias be reconsidered, and that an explanation be provided to you by email if the alias is continued. Good luck. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stuck email? DATE: 24-Jul-05 04:21:35 HOST: sverige If it is still true, try posting to the REQUESTS board on bboard, a request that the alias be reconsidered, and that an explanation be provided to you by email if the alias is continued. Good luck. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Running a public webserver behind a firewall DATE: 23-Mar-05 12:51:52 HOST: sverige If you're system running the web server is behind a NATting device, then that device will have to be configured to do port forwarding, both directions. Alternatively, the NAtting device may have one port which is not NATted (they name it some kind of 'zone') for teh purpose of connecting servers. I don't think that "routing" applies to NATting. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Running a public webserver behind a firewall DATE: 23-Mar-05 12:51:52 HOST: sverige If you're system running the web server is behind a NATting device, then that device will have to be configured to do port forwarding, both directions. Alternatively, the NAtting device may have one port which is not NATted (they name it some kind of 'zone') for teh purpose of connecting servers. I don't think that "routing" applies to NATting. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. "No plan."? DATE: 25-Jan-05 23:25:52 HOST: sverige see what happens if you create a file, using any means you chooose, named ... .plan and for that matter, ... .project or even, ... .da_bom ;-} [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. "No plan."? DATE: 25-Jan-05 23:25:52 HOST: sverige see what happens if you create a file, using any means you chooose, named ... .plan and for that matter, ... .project or even, ... .da_bom ;-} .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. help with "upload" DATE: 27-Jul-05 20:39:17 HOST: sverige try kermit or c-kermit, originated at columbia.edu iirc. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. help with "upload" DATE: 27-Jul-05 20:39:17 HOST: sverige try kermit or c-kermit, originated at columbia.edu iirc. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I want 2 OS on one hard drive! DATE: 28-Dec-04 04:40:47 HOST: sverige You should probably plan to use some kind of "boot manager" on a primary partition. There are plenty available, and you may find 'lilo' with your linux distro. Historically, MS systems have needed a primary partition for booting, but w2k can reside on a logical volume. It's common practice, and plenty of guidance is available in distro manuals and online. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I want 2 OS on one hard drive! DATE: 28-Dec-04 04:40:47 HOST: sverige You should probably plan to use some kind of "boot manager" on a primary partition. There are plenty available, and you may find 'lilo' with your linux distro. Historically, MS systems have needed a primary partition for booting, but w2k can reside on a logical volume. It's common practice, and plenty of guidance is available in distro manuals and online. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. port 8010 blocked for streaming music DATE: 28-Apr-05 01:05:48 HOST: sverige addenda... Once metaARPA, you can, and may need to, use sverige for this. Depending on your client, the syntax may be: ssh -l ... sverige.freeshell.org for your on SDF, and where ... is -L localport:remotehost:remotehostport then just tune your listening to 127.0.0.1:localport [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. port 8010 blocked for streaming music DATE: 28-Apr-05 01:05:48 HOST: sverige addenda... Once metaARPA, you can, and may need to, use sverige for this. Depending on your client, the syntax may be: ssh -l ... sverige.freeshell.org for your on SDF, and where ... is -L localport:remotehost:remotehostport then just tune your listening to 127.0.0.1:localport ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. chmod command DATE: 29-May-05 01:29:53 HOST: sverige what happens if you just run chmod alone without anything else on the command string? or $ ls -l `which chmod` [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. chmod command DATE: 29-May-05 01:29:53 HOST: sverige what happens if you just run chmod alone without anything else on the command string? or $ ls -l `which chmod` TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. mdns not working for me DATE: 28-Oct-05 15:59:44 HOST: sverige Shucks. It appears that I am to blame for this failure; and for that I apologize and ask for forgiveness. It seems that my self-generated .mdns file had a 0D0A rather than 000A termination; or something else perhaps, but I'm striving to ensure that it won't happen again. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. mdns not working for me DATE: 28-Oct-05 15:59:44 HOST: sverige Shucks. It appears that I am to blame for this failure; and for that I apologize and ask for forgiveness. It seems that my self-generated .mdns file had a 0D0A rather than 000A termination; or something else perhaps, but I'm striving to ensure that it won't happen again. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. mdns not working for me DATE: 28-Oct-05 22:04:13 HOST: sverige OK. I got that fixed. It was a 0d0a term rather than just a 0a which caused the problem. My next solution-in-process is to find a way to automatically disable the mdns assignment on impending connection downing. The automated process of sending ~/.mdns and ~/.mdns.update works by scp; but deleting a remote file isn't something which I've figured out yet. And, you'll be pleased to hear that i'm not going to just experiment with things like empty files for this purpose. Until I solve it, I'll either let the assignment continue until updated, or assign some localhost IP -- or better yet, a remote hosted site -- hmmmmmm....... ???? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. mdns not working for me DATE: 28-Oct-05 22:04:13 HOST: sverige OK. I got that fixed. It was a 0d0a term rather than just a 0a which caused the problem. My next solution-in-process is to find a way to automatically disable the mdns assignment on impending connection downing. The automated process of sending ~/.mdns and ~/.mdns.update works by scp; but deleting a remote file isn't something which I've figured out yet. And, you'll be pleased to hear that i'm not going to just experiment with things like empty files for this purpose. Until I solve it, I'll either let the assignment continue until updated, or assign some localhost IP -- or better yet, a remote hosted site -- hmmmmmm....... ???? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. root .. DATE: 29-Jun-05 03:23:30 HOST: sverige don't panic; we're just victims of a failed motd update, and bad timing for logging in during the short timeframe during which it would be noticed. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. root .. DATE: 29-Jun-05 03:23:30 HOST: sverige don't panic; we're just victims of a failed motd update, and bad timing for logging in during the short timeframe during which it would be noticed. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. jobs (bg fg etc) DATE: 30-May-05 17:40:49 HOST: sverige try top & it could be something peculiar with whatever you have as 'fm' ? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. jobs (bg fg etc) DATE: 30-May-05 17:40:49 HOST: sverige try top & it could be something peculiar with whatever you have as 'fm' ? ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. answer always posted - bug? DATE: 06-Jun-05 17:12:45 HOST: sverige Maybe the design intent is to compose a response and leave it in the list but not email it to the poster? which would be a nice feature if we could edit/delete response content in situations as discribed. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. answer always posted - bug? DATE: 06-Jun-05 17:12:45 HOST: sverige Maybe the design intent is to compose a response and leave it in the list but not email it to the poster? which would be a nice feature if we could edit/delete response content in situations as discribed. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Arpa member fallen off ARPA list DATE: 20-May-05 03:03:16 HOST: sverige $ uinfo demuire Created: Mon Jul 8 14:10 2002 on ttyq7 from 63.12.147.160 Validated: Mon Jul 8 16:38 2002 Joined ARPA: Mon Jul 8 16:38 2002 $ ls -ld ~demuire drwxr-xr-x 10 demuire arpa 1024 May 20 01:43 /arpa/ag/d/demuire However, $ groups demuire new there must be another list somewhere :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Arpa member fallen off ARPA list DATE: 20-May-05 03:03:16 HOST: sverige $ uinfo demuire Created: Mon Jul 8 14:10 2002 on ttyq7 from 63.12.147.160 Validated: Mon Jul 8 16:38 2002 Joined ARPA: Mon Jul 8 16:38 2002 $ ls -ld ~demuire drwxr-xr-x 10 demuire arpa 1024 May 20 01:43 /arpa/ag/d/demuire However, $ groups demuire new there must be another list somewhere :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. i seem to be a permanent HELPDESK attendant DATE: 01-Jun-05 12:03:29 HOST: sverige Yeah, I've noticed that; and am glad to see that you're OK, not run over by a train while helping some soul with their shell ;-} [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. i seem to be a permanent HELPDESK attendant DATE: 01-Jun-05 12:03:29 HOST: sverige Yeah, I've noticed that; and am glad to see that you're OK, not run over by a train while helping some soul with their shell ;-} .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stupid w4nn4b3's LOL DATE: 09-May-05 17:10:46 HOST: sverige Isn't that the nimda virus/worm? Condescension is not a virtue. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Stupid w4nn4b3's LOL DATE: 09-May-05 17:10:46 HOST: sverige Isn't that the nimda virus/worm? Condescension is not a virtue. ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Same Condition. DATE: 18-Sep-05 13:10:04 HOST: sverige Thanks Alexy. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Same Condition. DATE: 18-Sep-05 13:10:04 HOST: sverige Thanks Alexy. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Same Condition. DATE: 19-Sep-05 18:44:16 HOST: sverige to some of us o'timers, "bridge" is just forward of the nav station, above the workign deck, and around a card table at the neighbors :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Same Condition. DATE: 19-Sep-05 18:44:16 HOST: sverige to some of us o'timers, "bridge" is just forward of the nav station, above the workign deck, and around a card table at the neighbors :) ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BYE BYE LEENOX ... DATE: 26-Aug-05 11:21:43 HOST: sverige if it was intended to be pronounced 'linnux' then it should have been spelled that way. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. BYE BYE LEENOX ... DATE: 26-Aug-05 11:21:43 HOST: sverige if it was intended to be pronounced 'linnux' then it should have been spelled that way. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Foreign Media Reaction DATE: 11-Dec-05 12:14:30 HOST: sverige This might be a good project with which to learn the text tools (sed, awk, etc.) by creating indices for these documents; one in flat text for maybe grepping; another in CSV for database import. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Foreign Media Reaction DATE: 11-Dec-05 12:14:30 HOST: sverige This might be a good project with which to learn the text tools (sed, awk, etc.) by creating indices for these documents; one in flat text for maybe grepping; another in CSV for database import. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:51:56 HOST: sverige anon option not detected [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:51:56 HOST: sverige anon option not detected TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:52:43 HOST: sverige panic escalating [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:52:43 HOST: sverige panic escalating TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:53:47 HOST: sverige ______ < bOOm > ------ \ ^__^ \ (oo)\_______ (__)\ )\/\ ||----w | || || [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. escalation detected DATE: 02-May-05 22:53:47 HOST: sverige ______ < bOOm > ------ \ ^__^ \ (oo)\_______ (__)\ )\/\ ||----w | || || .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wow... Every pixel could be a separate universe... DATE: 03-May-05 01:39:40 HOST: sverige Isn't the helpdesk function provided by the HELP board here in 'bboard'? and optionally the 'helpdesk' forum in com? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wow... Every pixel could be a separate universe... DATE: 03-May-05 01:39:40 HOST: sverige Isn't the helpdesk function provided by the HELP board here in 'bboard'? and optionally the 'helpdesk' forum in com? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wow... Every pixel could be a separate universe... DATE: 03-May-05 01:54:25 HOST: sverige If there was an alternate 'mesg' switch to enable reception of announcements of a new question from a user in com's helpdesk, I'd be able and willing to enable it on occasion of my availability and willingness to be responsive. I'd also be able to enter com's helpdesk, post a question, trigger a 'send' and see if anybody arrived with an answer. Dealing with abuse may or may not be required. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wow... Every pixel could be a separate universe... DATE: 03-May-05 01:54:25 HOST: sverige If there was an alternate 'mesg' switch to enable reception of announcements of a new question from a user in com's helpdesk, I'd be able and willing to enable it on occasion of my availability and willingness to be responsive. I'd also be able to enter com's helpdesk, post a question, trigger a 'send' and see if anybody arrived with an answer. Dealing with abuse may or may not be required. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Bush said DATE: 04-Sep-05 13:17:23 HOST: sverige Identifying Bush as the guy who gutted FEMA and put the whole operation in the incompetent hands of political whores without experience or talents is just a matter of hitorical fact. There's nothing "lame" about fact; or about cause and effect. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Bush said DATE: 04-Sep-05 13:17:23 HOST: sverige Identifying Bush as the guy who gutted FEMA and put the whole operation in the incompetent hands of political whores without experience or talents is just a matter of hitorical fact. There's nothing "lame" about fact; or about cause and effect. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Bush said DATE: 10-Sep-05 01:38:10 HOST: sverige The pResident, Bush Junior, is SOLELY responsible for gutting FEMA and loading its management, and that of DHS, with political hacks who have no more competence for their assignments than does his own spoiled idiocy. If you'd like to apologize for the moron, please start a bulletin listing all the things he and his team have done which Americans can really be proud of. The exercise will surely be worth your 'while'. Thank you for your understanding. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Bush said DATE: 10-Sep-05 01:38:10 HOST: sverige The pResident, Bush Junior, is SOLELY responsible for gutting FEMA and loading its management, and that of DHS, with political hacks who have no more competence for their assignments than does his own spoiled idiocy. If you'd like to apologize for the moron, please start a bulletin listing all the things he and his team have done which Americans can really be proud of. The exercise will surely be worth your 'while'. Thank you for your understanding. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. preparedness DATE: 07-Sep-05 01:37:57 HOST: sverige Good point. One of the inane blatherers on CNN was chastizing a resident for not evacuating some earlier storm somewhere. The resident responded that he had experienced several Pacific typhoons, and he knew exactly what he was up against here and how to cope with it. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. preparedness DATE: 07-Sep-05 01:37:57 HOST: sverige Good point. One of the inane blatherers on CNN was chastizing a resident for not evacuating some earlier storm somewhere. The resident responded that he had experienced several Pacific typhoons, and he knew exactly what he was up against here and how to cope with it. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Toxic chemicals in flood water DATE: 11-Sep-05 05:59:36 HOST: sverige or ... use it as an excuse to completely rebuild and gentrify the city. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Toxic chemicals in flood water DATE: 11-Sep-05 05:59:36 HOST: sverige or ... use it as an excuse to completely rebuild and gentrify the city. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. holy shit! DATE: 17-Sep-05 12:56:24 HOST: sverige http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20050915 "that part of the world" [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. holy shit! DATE: 17-Sep-05 12:56:24 HOST: sverige http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20050915 "that part of the world" TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Some websites DATE: 28-Aug-05 21:05:12 HOST: sverige http://avoyager.freeshell.org/Hurricane_Links.html http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/ This storm is the second strongest/biggest in recorded history; and its path will seriously harm very many people for quite a long time. The roadway backups are starting to look scary via CNN. The evacuation needs to be moving, not standing still. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Some websites DATE: 28-Aug-05 21:05:12 HOST: sverige http://avoyager.freeshell.org/Hurricane_Links.html http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/ This storm is the second strongest/biggest in recorded history; and its path will seriously harm very many people for quite a long time. The roadway backups are starting to look scary via CNN. The evacuation needs to be moving, not standing still. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. chilling outlook DATE: 31-Aug-05 13:25:02 HOST: sverige Ah shit; we're losing the city. This is looking to be worse than anticipated, when considered with the entire coastal region which has been devastated. Amphibious and airlift requred en masse immediately. Far far worse than the WTC collapse in 2001, in every way. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. chilling outlook DATE: 31-Aug-05 13:25:02 HOST: sverige Ah shit; we're losing the city. This is looking to be worse than anticipated, when considered with the entire coastal region which has been devastated. Amphibious and airlift requred en masse immediately. Far far worse than the WTC collapse in 2001, in every way. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. wow DATE: 31-Aug-05 15:45:30 HOST: sverige I keep hoping for somebody other than me to say, "No, Miles. It looks like a big storm surge came through and knocked over everything in its path. It has nothing to do with $WAR_IMAGE." Meanwhile, the vast bureaucracy is churning and churning and everybody is saying very nice things about each other. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. wow DATE: 31-Aug-05 15:45:30 HOST: sverige I keep hoping for somebody other than me to say, "No, Miles. It looks like a big storm surge came through and knocked over everything in its path. It has nothing to do with $WAR_IMAGE." Meanwhile, the vast bureaucracy is churning and churning and everybody is saying very nice things about each other. .....................TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. resizing too tall windows DATE: 23-Mar-05 04:03:46 HOST: sverige WAG ... can you, from the "desktop" somewhere, 'tile' or 'cascade' all windows? or, a task manager of sorts which will provide option to 'move' the window with a mouse anchor anyplace, rather than just in the header? /end WAG [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. resizing too tall windows DATE: 23-Mar-05 04:03:46 HOST: sverige WAG ... can you, from the "desktop" somewhere, 'tile' or 'cascade' all windows? or, a task manager of sorts which will provide option to 'move' the window with a mouse anchor anyplace, rather than just in the header? /end WAG ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. spamcop blocking legit mail DATE: 01-Aug-05 14:06:24 HOST: sverige Jeff, your problem isn't quite clear to me. Which system en route from sender to receiver is applying either the spamcop or the ordb checks? Feel free to post or email raw evidence. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. spamcop blocking legit mail DATE: 01-Aug-05 14:06:24 HOST: sverige Jeff, your problem isn't quite clear to me. Which system en route from sender to receiver is applying either the spamcop or the ordb checks? Feel free to post or email raw evidence. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. bondedsender.org DATE: 05-Aug-05 21:59:23 HOST: sverige Here's another very good blocklist checker site: http://moensted.dk/spam/ It isn't up as I post this; hopefully only a temporary routing or hosting problem. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. bondedsender.org DATE: 05-Aug-05 21:59:23 HOST: sverige Here's another very good blocklist checker site: http://moensted.dk/spam/ It isn't up as I post this; hopefully only a temporary routing or hosting problem. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. find a message within pine DATE: 06-May-05 14:37:43 HOST: sverige from within Pine, find the saved-messages folder and search for it with 'W'hereis command key. You may have saved it externally, in which case, ... grep -ilrs Chiavari ~/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. find a message within pine DATE: 06-May-05 14:37:43 HOST: sverige from within Pine, find the saved-messages folder and search for it with 'W'hereis command key. You may have saved it externally, in which case, ... grep -ilrs Chiavari ~/ ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Mail forwarding DATE: 11-Aug-05 18:37:40 HOST: sverige study up on the use of .forward file I don't know of anything on SDF which describes it. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Mail forwarding DATE: 11-Aug-05 18:37:40 HOST: sverige study up on the use of .forward file I don't know of anything on SDF which describes it. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Humorous bounce DATE: 13-Jul-05 12:50:55 HOST: sverige An increasing number of MTAs are now using the "Fix reverse DNS" check. Admins who don't own their IPs have always had difficulty getting the IP owner to respond. What I've seen to alleviate this is for IP owners to add PTR records to a host in the user's zone; the the user then adds a CNAME record from that host to the one they want to use. And it seems to work. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Humorous bounce DATE: 13-Jul-05 12:50:55 HOST: sverige An increasing number of MTAs are now using the "Fix reverse DNS" check. Admins who don't own their IPs have always had difficulty getting the IP owner to respond. What I've seen to alleviate this is for IP owners to add PTR records to a host in the user's zone; the the user then adds a CNAME record from that host to the one they want to use. And it seems to work. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. html emails = evil DATE: 16-Jun-05 14:42:17 HOST: sverige in other words, it would be much more net friendly to whitelist your cronies before testing for html mail. I've learned that ALL email addresses should be considered disposable. The downside is those systems (including my former ISP) which refuse to reject mail during SMTP and regularly accept it then delete it; thus senders never learn that their mail was not delivered; and spammers never get stuck with a ton of undeliverable mail clogging their own systems. This, by the way, is imho the Net's greatest failure and the sole reason why the spam problem continues. since you asked :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. html emails = evil DATE: 16-Jun-05 14:42:17 HOST: sverige in other words, it would be much more net friendly to whitelist your cronies before testing for html mail. I've learned that ALL email addresses should be considered disposable. The downside is those systems (including my former ISP) which refuse to reject mail during SMTP and regularly accept it then delete it; thus senders never learn that their mail was not delivered; and spammers never get stuck with a ton of undeliverable mail clogging their own systems. This, by the way, is imho the Net's greatest failure and the sole reason why the spam problem continues. since you asked :) ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Blacklists DATE: 01-Aug-05 14:03:31 HOST: sverige Maybe smj needs to revisit the 'nospam' utility after mixing things up between mx and ol or whatever; but right now it doesn't work completely. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Blacklists DATE: 01-Aug-05 14:03:31 HOST: sverige Maybe smj needs to revisit the 'nospam' utility after mixing things up between mx and ol or whatever; but right now it doesn't work completely. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Blacklists DATE: 01-Aug-05 15:05:06 HOST: sverige I'm not sure that anything is "wrong". You might run nospam yourself and see what you learn. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Blacklists DATE: 01-Aug-05 15:05:06 HOST: sverige I'm not sure that anything is "wrong". You might run nospam yourself and see what you learn. ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. help - can't delete large email from incoming mail list DATE: 30-Jun-05 13:57:24 HOST: sverige First, use 'mail' to read you other mail; then delete $MAIL it's just a file :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. help - can't delete large email from incoming mail list DATE: 30-Jun-05 13:57:24 HOST: sverige First, use 'mail' to read you other mail; then delete $MAIL it's just a file :) ....TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. cnn and runaway bride DATE: 09-May-05 13:04:37 HOST: sverige FAIR's CounterSpin segment covered this runaway-bride item nicely, together with other notable content .... http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2510 No transcript, but the 28 minute, 13.5MB file is worth hearing in my opinion; contains some remarkable view of Don Imus whom I'd never heard of. May 1, 2005 -- DON Imus didn't like being called "a cantankerous old fool" by MSNBC's Contessa Brewer on PAGE SIX. Brewer, a former news reader on Imus' show, also said the I-man doesn't know how to relate to "beautiful women." "With that fat ass she's got, she wouldn't be one of 'em," Imus said on the air Friday. "That skank has to spend three hours with makeup in the morning ... Who's she kidding? . . . Plus, she's dumber than dirt ... Oh, my God, what a pig. But I was willing to cut her some slack and not say anything, you know, until - in fact, I didn't say anything . . . That's why they have those big double-doors there at MSNBC, you know, so they can get her fat ass in makeup." [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. cnn and runaway bride DATE: 09-May-05 13:04:37 HOST: sverige FAIR's CounterSpin segment covered this runaway-bride item nicely, together with other notable content .... http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2510 No transcript, but the 28 minute, 13.5MB file is worth hearing in my opinion; contains some remarkable view of Don Imus whom I'd never heard of. May 1, 2005 -- DON Imus didn't like being called "a cantankerous old fool" by MSNBC's Contessa Brewer on PAGE SIX. Brewer, a former news reader on Imus' show, also said the I-man doesn't know how to relate to "beautiful women." "With that fat ass she's got, she wouldn't be one of 'em," Imus said on the air Friday. "That skank has to spend three hours with makeup in the morning ... Who's she kidding? . . . Plus, she's dumber than dirt ... Oh, my God, what a pig. But I was willing to cut her some slack and not say anything, you know, until - in fact, I didn't say anything . . . That's why they have those big double-doors there at MSNBC, you know, so they can get her fat ass in makeup." TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Bill Moyers is the man DATE: 17-May-05 12:06:58 HOST: sverige get your own audio of Moyers' presentation at http://www.freepress.net/conference/audio05/moyers.mp3 "the one thing they loathe more than liberals is the truth. And the quickest way to be damned by them as liberal is to tell the truth." [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Bill Moyers is the man DATE: 17-May-05 12:06:58 HOST: sverige get your own audio of Moyers' presentation at http://www.freepress.net/conference/audio05/moyers.mp3 "the one thing they loathe more than liberals is the truth. And the quickest way to be damned by them as liberal is to tell the truth." .TACKER: rejjy (MetaARPA avoyager) SUBJECT: .. weee, special people =) DATE: 30-May-05 15:00:47 HOST: norge pre-validated user writes to META list [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: rejjy (MetaARPA avoyager) SUBJECT: .. weee, special people =) DATE: 30-May-05 15:00:47 HOST: norge pre-validated user writes to META list TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. MetaARPA websites..? DATE: 07-Jun-05 01:27:08 HOST: sverige >what say you all? "nonsense"; but only because you asked. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. MetaARPA websites..? DATE: 07-Jun-05 01:27:08 HOST: sverige >what say you all? "nonsense"; but only because you asked. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 03-Aug-05 22:31:23 HOST: sverige Stephen, "sverige, as promised, was not dropped to single user mode to ensure 'screen' processes would continue running." Now that this has happened, is there something which we can do to test, or keep an eye out for, to see that not dropping to single user is "an OK thing to do"?? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 03-Aug-05 22:31:23 HOST: sverige Stephen, "sverige, as promised, was not dropped to single user mode to ensure 'screen' processes would continue running." Now that this has happened, is there something which we can do to test, or keep an eye out for, to see that not dropping to single user is "an OK thing to do"?? TACKER: smj (Stephen Jones) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 03-Aug-05 22:59:20 HOST: ol Yes, ps shows all screened processes remained running since they were started (not the tty's which show processes that have been reattached to while ?? ttys are ones that are deattached). root 1213 ?? Tue04PM 0:01.11 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 2412 ?? Mon12AM 0:00.39 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 2616 ?? 5:18AM 0:00.02 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 5465 ?? 26Jul05 0:07.12 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6028 ?? Tue12PM 0:02.91 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6063 ?? 26Jul05 0:10.22 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6461 ?? 26Jul05 0:47.12 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6744 ?? Sun04AM 0:04.66 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 9752 ?? 6:39PM 0:01.49 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 10220 ?? 9:34PM 0:00.56 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 10533 ?? 9:06PM 0:00.04 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 12818 ?? Thu04AM 0:03.91 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 14393 ?? 4:03PM 0:02.41 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 16719 ?? Fri09PM 0:06.61 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 18998 ?? Sat08PM 0:02.15 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 20615 ?? Sun04PM 0:01.41 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 21068 ?? Tue03AM 0:00.14 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 21342 ?? 27Jul05 0:03.49 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 22789 ?? 8:31PM 0:00.07 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 23292 ?? Thu05PM 0:03.02 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 24052 ?? Sat08AM 0:00.48 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 24304 ?? 9:16PM 0:00.06 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 29585 ?? Sat10PM 0:22.56 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 br 18026 p9 1:56AM 0:00.21 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 xcitor 22349 pd 9:34PM 0:00.03 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 ace 16848 qb 9:43PM 0:00.03 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 rediske 16428 qf Mon02AM 0:00.65 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 mbays 10514 r9 10:13PM 0:00.02 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 sorensen 25782 s4 4:03PM 0:00.08 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 tjh 10119 t1 6:54PM 0:00.06 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 avoyager 15374 po 10:25PM 0:00.02 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: smj (Stephen Jones) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 03-Aug-05 22:59:20 HOST: ol Yes, ps shows all screened processes remained running since they were started (not the tty's which show processes that have been reattached to while ?? ttys are ones that are deattached). root 1213 ?? Tue04PM 0:01.11 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 2412 ?? Mon12AM 0:00.39 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 2616 ?? 5:18AM 0:00.02 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 5465 ?? 26Jul05 0:07.12 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6028 ?? Tue12PM 0:02.91 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6063 ?? 26Jul05 0:10.22 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6461 ?? 26Jul05 0:47.12 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 6744 ?? Sun04AM 0:04.66 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 9752 ?? 6:39PM 0:01.49 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 10220 ?? 9:34PM 0:00.56 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 10533 ?? 9:06PM 0:00.04 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 12818 ?? Thu04AM 0:03.91 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 14393 ?? 4:03PM 0:02.41 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 16719 ?? Fri09PM 0:06.61 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 18998 ?? Sat08PM 0:02.15 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 20615 ?? Sun04PM 0:01.41 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 21068 ?? Tue03AM 0:00.14 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 21342 ?? 27Jul05 0:03.49 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 22789 ?? 8:31PM 0:00.07 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 23292 ?? Thu05PM 0:03.02 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 24052 ?? Sat08AM 0:00.48 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 24304 ?? 9:16PM 0:00.06 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 root 29585 ?? Sat10PM 0:22.56 /usr/pkg/bin/SCREEN-4.0.2 br 18026 p9 1:56AM 0:00.21 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 xcitor 22349 pd 9:34PM 0:00.03 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 ace 16848 qb 9:43PM 0:00.03 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 rediske 16428 qf Mon02AM 0:00.65 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 mbays 10514 r9 10:13PM 0:00.02 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 sorensen 25782 s4 4:03PM 0:00.08 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 tjh 10119 t1 6:54PM 0:00.06 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 avoyager 15374 po 10:25PM 0:00.02 /usr/pkg/bin/screen-4.0.2 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 04-Aug-05 00:50:20 HOST: sverige oh yes; I'm a prime beneficiary of screen sessions not lost; my concern and question is not about whether or not screen users are OK, but about sverige being OK for not having been dropped into single user state. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 04-Aug-05 00:50:20 HOST: sverige oh yes; I'm a prime beneficiary of screen sessions not lost; my concern and question is not about whether or not screen users are OK, but about sverige being OK for not having been dropped into single user state. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 26-Jul-05 19:31:56 HOST: sverige I've seen, including just now, "screen death" associated with ol going down, or perhaps also in the case mentioned earlier in this thread, when NFS (or ol) becomes unresponsive. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 26-Jul-05 19:31:56 HOST: sverige I've seen, including just now, "screen death" associated with ol going down, or perhaps also in the case mentioned earlier in this thread, when NFS (or ol) becomes unresponsive. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 26-Jul-05 22:15:59 HOST: sverige Stephen, just to clarify, I didn't sense that any of us were complaining about losing screen sessions; but rather, we were just curious to understand. Thanks for caring :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. screen death DATE: 26-Jul-05 22:15:59 HOST: sverige Stephen, just to clarify, I didn't sense that any of us were complaining about losing screen sessions; but rather, we were just curious to understand. Thanks for caring :) .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. disabling sdf.lonestar.org DATE: 26-Jun-05 14:37:11 HOST: sverige The reason for not bouncing spam is that the bounce probably just targets another innocent victim whose address was forged into the original spam. The best practice, in my view, is to refuse to accept the spam during smtp; leaving it on the sending system, which would then be responsible for notifying the sending party of undeliverable mail in the case of false positive spam ID or in this case of addy does not exist. I have not tested to see how this is currently handled at SDF. It seems possible that smj could, if so inspired, insert a mail filtering rule which whitelists local intra-sdf messages, and maybe even local .forward files :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. disabling sdf.lonestar.org DATE: 26-Jun-05 14:37:11 HOST: sverige The reason for not bouncing spam is that the bounce probably just targets another innocent victim whose address was forged into the original spam. The best practice, in my view, is to refuse to accept the spam during smtp; leaving it on the sending system, which would then be responsible for notifying the sending party of undeliverable mail in the case of false positive spam ID or in this case of addy does not exist. I have not tested to see how this is currently handled at SDF. It seems possible that smj could, if so inspired, insert a mail filtering rule which whitelists local intra-sdf messages, and maybe even local .forward files :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. disabling sdf.lonestar.org DATE: 27-Jun-05 17:16:25 HOST: sverige an additional option to barnacle's list of two is to keep the @sdf.lonestar.org domain, whitelist @sdf.lonestar.org senders and delete the others. It should be obvious that if both sender and recipient have disabled the common address, then they won't be able to mail each other without prior collaboration. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. disabling sdf.lonestar.org DATE: 27-Jun-05 17:16:25 HOST: sverige an additional option to barnacle's list of two is to keep the @sdf.lonestar.org domain, whitelist @sdf.lonestar.org senders and delete the others. It should be obvious that if both sender and recipient have disabled the common address, then they won't be able to mail each other without prior collaboration. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Corporation DATE: 09-Nov-05 23:29:06 HOST: sverige I have seen it; first acquired via torrent; then by purchase. It had some exposure at theaters, but not near as much as it deserves; and hardly any press mention (to my limited awareness). There have been some really outstanding films made in Canada and Great Britain which I wish more Americans had more exposure and access to; and which I've been able to see only by virtue of bittorrent. From my perspective, any venom directable toward bittorrent and other open sharing ought to be directed against the willful and insipient censorhip to which American citizens (officially "consumers") are now subjected. Other notable examples include: The Power of Nightmares by Adam Curtis The Century of Self by Adam Curtis The End of Suburbia by Barrie Zwicker and excellent biographies of Bush and Cheney by the CBC. I wish I had better access to the works of John Pilger. And some stuff just never does see the public in mass, but is at least publicly available: http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/Hijacking_Catastrophe http://www.truthuncovered.com/ Robert Greenwald has a new one trying to break the media barrier, and with support of MoveOn.org, "Wal-Mart; the high cost of low price" http://www.walmartmovie.com/fear_and_smear.php so you raise this topic at an opportune moment. Readers interested in possibly dated .torrents mentioned above are encouraged to look closer (hint), or to inquire directly. Peace! -avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Corporation DATE: 09-Nov-05 23:29:06 HOST: sverige I have seen it; first acquired via torrent; then by purchase. It had some exposure at theaters, but not near as much as it deserves; and hardly any press mention (to my limited awareness). There have been some really outstanding films made in Canada and Great Britain which I wish more Americans had more exposure and access to; and which I've been able to see only by virtue of bittorrent. From my perspective, any venom directable toward bittorrent and other open sharing ought to be directed against the willful and insipient censorhip to which American citizens (officially "consumers") are now subjected. Other notable examples include: The Power of Nightmares by Adam Curtis The Century of Self by Adam Curtis The End of Suburbia by Barrie Zwicker and excellent biographies of Bush and Cheney by the CBC. I wish I had better access to the works of John Pilger. And some stuff just never does see the public in mass, but is at least publicly available: http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/Hijacking_Catastrophe http://www.truthuncovered.com/ Robert Greenwald has a new one trying to break the media barrier, and with support of MoveOn.org, "Wal-Mart; the high cost of low price" http://www.walmartmovie.com/fear_and_smear.php so you raise this topic at an opportune moment. Readers interested in possibly dated .torrents mentioned above are encouraged to look closer (hint), or to inquire directly. Peace! -avo TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Corporation DATE: 09-Nov-05 23:59:52 HOST: sverige also, here's the official website of "The Corporation" http://www.thecorporation.com/ (and I forgot to include indirectly disparinging remarks about the pre-eminent U.S. documentarian who should avoid other people's cameras) ;-} [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Corporation DATE: 09-Nov-05 23:59:52 HOST: sverige also, here's the official website of "The Corporation" http://www.thecorporation.com/ (and I forgot to include indirectly disparinging remarks about the pre-eminent U.S. documentarian who should avoid other people's cameras) ;-} TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Perfectly good white boys DATE: 29-Sep-05 13:09:38 HOST: sverige It's possible ... that each use is independent of the other; given that they both/each are making back reference, specifically perhaps a sarcastic back reference, to a race-reversed phrase "in common usage"?? from the past. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Perfectly good white boys DATE: 29-Sep-05 13:09:38 HOST: sverige It's possible ... that each use is independent of the other; given that they both/each are making back reference, specifically perhaps a sarcastic back reference, to a race-reversed phrase "in common usage"?? from the past. ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Allman Brothers Band DATE: 02-Feb-05 13:03:41 HOST: sverige "Layla" is an extraordinary piece of hard driving rock; right up there with Hendrix' "Watchtower" and Joplin' "Bobby McGee" and [quite] a few others which just make you have to get up and engaged with it. But it's also a very pretty song. I think it'd work into a wedding, due to the way it has more "flow" than "beat", a quality which Clapton seems to credit to Jim Gordon (drummer!) [http://www.clapton-online.com/clapton/hist/echistus5.html] [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Allman Brothers Band DATE: 02-Feb-05 13:03:41 HOST: sverige "Layla" is an extraordinary piece of hard driving rock; right up there with Hendrix' "Watchtower" and Joplin' "Bobby McGee" and [quite] a few others which just make you have to get up and engaged with it. But it's also a very pretty song. I think it'd work into a wedding, due to the way it has more "flow" than "beat", a quality which Clapton seems to credit to Jim Gordon (drummer!) [http://www.clapton-online.com/clapton/hist/echistus5.html] ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I've got a list if I can remember .. DATE: 28-Dec-04 23:32:28 HOST: sverige Well, I was properly "newbie" while PIPping files between Async ports and 8" floppies on CP/M, and would today appreciate enlightenment on these persistent understandings ... 1. Newbies tend to call a software terminal emulator 'the console' 3. Newbies think 8 bits compose a byte. Thanks! --Avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I've got a list if I can remember .. DATE: 28-Dec-04 23:32:28 HOST: sverige Well, I was properly "newbie" while PIPping files between Async ports and 8" floppies on CP/M, and would today appreciate enlightenment on these persistent understandings ... 1. Newbies tend to call a software terminal emulator 'the console' 3. Newbies think 8 bits compose a byte. Thanks! --Avo .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Hunter S. Thompson DATE: 22-Feb-05 03:07:17 HOST: sverige The Edge ... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know it are the ones who have gone over. The others - the living - are those who pushed their control as far as they felt they could, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later. But the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In. The association of motorcycles with LSD is no accient of publicity. They are both a means to an end, to the place of definitions. --Hunter S. Thompson "Hell's Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga", Random House, 1966 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Hunter S. Thompson DATE: 22-Feb-05 03:07:17 HOST: sverige The Edge ... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know it are the ones who have gone over. The others - the living - are those who pushed their control as far as they felt they could, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later. But the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In. The association of motorcycles with LSD is no accient of publicity. They are both a means to an end, to the place of definitions. --Hunter S. Thompson "Hell's Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga", Random House, 1966 .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Okay, it's too quiet here. DATE: 03-Aug-05 16:09:23 HOST: sverige He's running for President. Follow the Money. While the GOP goobers argue about stem-cell research the other important fiascos get buried by their media. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Okay, it's too quiet here. DATE: 03-Aug-05 16:09:23 HOST: sverige He's running for President. Follow the Money. While the GOP goobers argue about stem-cell research the other important fiascos get buried by their media. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 04-Aug-05 13:00:37 HOST: sverige There is no democracy. In the U.S. there is a vote, but not by everybody, and not free from result-altering tamperings; there is not representation, there is not an informed electorate. Saddam used to hold votes like we see in the U.S., but he wasn't subsidizing the media in the process. Oh. Yeah; he was. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 04-Aug-05 13:00:37 HOST: sverige There is no democracy. In the U.S. there is a vote, but not by everybody, and not free from result-altering tamperings; there is not representation, there is not an informed electorate. Saddam used to hold votes like we see in the U.S., but he wasn't subsidizing the media in the process. Oh. Yeah; he was. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 04-Aug-05 19:52:52 HOST: sverige I didn't say "comparable" or "equal". I'll repeat myself here. Argue with this: There is no democracy. In the U.S. there is a vote, but not by everybody, and not free from result-altering tamperings; there is not representation, there is not an informed electorate. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 04-Aug-05 19:52:52 HOST: sverige I didn't say "comparable" or "equal". I'll repeat myself here. Argue with this: There is no democracy. In the U.S. there is a vote, but not by everybody, and not free from result-altering tamperings; there is not representation, there is not an informed electorate. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 06-Aug-05 22:40:33 HOST: sverige The russians are coming! the russians are coming! DUCK! [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 06-Aug-05 22:40:33 HOST: sverige The russians are coming! the russians are coming! DUCK! TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 21-Jun-05 19:07:57 HOST: sverige b.Corporatism is a condition wherein government serves businesses (i.e. politicians' benefactors) rather than, even at the expense of, the public. A perfect example of this today is the U.S.A. which is subsidizing corrupt corporations, while plundering the treasury, at the expense of its constitutional mandate to provide for the health, education, and welfare of the individuals which make up its population. Nothing short of impeachable treason at federal and state levels of government in all three branches of government. --since you asked [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Biggest Threat to Democracy? DATE: 21-Jun-05 19:07:57 HOST: sverige b.Corporatism is a condition wherein government serves businesses (i.e. politicians' benefactors) rather than, even at the expense of, the public. A perfect example of this today is the U.S.A. which is subsidizing corrupt corporations, while plundering the treasury, at the expense of its constitutional mandate to provide for the health, education, and welfare of the individuals which make up its population. Nothing short of impeachable treason at federal and state levels of government in all three branches of government. --since you asked .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Power of Nightmares DATE: 23-Jul-05 20:17:16 HOST: sverige Curtis' other docufilm, "Century of the Self", is also commendable. Notice the timing between the London explosions and yesterday's U.S. House passage of so-called P.A.T.R.I.O.T Act extension? It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to wonder how congressional debate might have gone had there not been the London incident. Which brings to mind the important question of "Who benefits from the London explosions? from the 9/11/01 attacks upon the WTC?" and why do those who do benefit, also control world economies and governments? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Power of Nightmares DATE: 23-Jul-05 20:17:16 HOST: sverige Curtis' other docufilm, "Century of the Self", is also commendable. Notice the timing between the London explosions and yesterday's U.S. House passage of so-called P.A.T.R.I.O.T Act extension? It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to wonder how congressional debate might have gone had there not been the London incident. Which brings to mind the important question of "Who benefits from the London explosions? from the 9/11/01 attacks upon the WTC?" and why do those who do benefit, also control world economies and governments? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. eminent domain DATE: 29-Jun-05 12:33:33 HOST: sverige Just needs to persuade three citizen selectmen, probably volunteers and neighbors. It's probably time to register Hotel Liberty as a national chain. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. eminent domain DATE: 29-Jun-05 12:33:33 HOST: sverige Just needs to persuade three citizen selectmen, probably volunteers and neighbors. It's probably time to register Hotel Liberty as a national chain. ........TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. God being a figure? DATE: 20-Jan-05 00:15:56 HOST: sverige As to whether God created Man or Man created God, the question, or the answer, goes back some 10,000 years or more, to that point where the natural, physical embodiment had evolved to the point where this issue became cognizant. With such a long history, it is no suprise that the questions and answers would themselves evolve over time. So also should those fabricated organizations called "churches" and "religions" evolve to address the current minds and context. The birth and development of a physical human is pretty miraculous, and not really made by or controlled by or even fully understood by humans. So, it would seem that if there IS a God, we did not create it. And if there's not, then what created us, and can't that be named God? Cheers, --avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. God being a figure? DATE: 20-Jan-05 00:15:56 HOST: sverige As to whether God created Man or Man created God, the question, or the answer, goes back some 10,000 years or more, to that point where the natural, physical embodiment had evolved to the point where this issue became cognizant. With such a long history, it is no suprise that the questions and answers would themselves evolve over time. So also should those fabricated organizations called "churches" and "religions" evolve to address the current minds and context. The birth and development of a physical human is pretty miraculous, and not really made by or controlled by or even fully understood by humans. So, it would seem that if there IS a God, we did not create it. And if there's not, then what created us, and can't that be named God? Cheers, --avo ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. my account's buggered! DATE: 04-Aug-05 00:44:10 HOST: sverige I would suggest taking the provision of * the software does not bypass membership restrictions to mean that you will not compile for yourself, or for anybody else, or run any precompiled versions of, software which is provided to SDF membership levels to which you do not belong. For instance, screen is provided to MetaARPA members only. ARPA or validated members should not run their own copies of screen. The reasoning, in case it isn't obvious, is about resource usage, and of course, trust. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. my account's buggered! DATE: 04-Aug-05 00:44:10 HOST: sverige I would suggest taking the provision of * the software does not bypass membership restrictions to mean that you will not compile for yourself, or for anybody else, or run any precompiled versions of, software which is provided to SDF membership levels to which you do not belong. For instance, screen is provided to MetaARPA members only. ARPA or validated members should not run their own copies of screen. The reasoning, in case it isn't obvious, is about resource usage, and of course, trust. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. my account's buggered! DATE: 04-Aug-05 01:56:53 HOST: sverige Now you're arguing. That will get you, here and elsewhere in life, .... ....nowhere but more trouble. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. my account's buggered! DATE: 04-Aug-05 01:56:53 HOST: sverige Now you're arguing. That will get you, here and elsewhere in life, .... ....nowhere but more trouble. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. DNS Utilities DATE: 02-May-05 15:30:48 HOST: sverige Thanks. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. DNS Utilities DATE: 02-May-05 15:30:48 HOST: sverige Thanks. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. threats ...no response DATE: 04-Jun-05 14:00:31 HOST: sverige I have no inside line on this, but it appears to me that smj has been travelling, away from the roost, and amongst other things not collecting postal mail. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. threats ...no response DATE: 04-Jun-05 14:00:31 HOST: sverige I have no inside line on this, but it appears to me that smj has been travelling, away from the roost, and amongst other things not collecting postal mail. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Info on ARPA issue DATE: 09-Jun-05 12:20:51 HOST: sverige I think that only smj can restore your settings, but here are some tips for the future, for everyone, ... kill -9 -1 will take out all your background processes. always reconnect after a drop, and run ps to check; or just go ahead and kill check/run top after launching anything or periodically while using cgis There may be other useful measures which I haven't discovered yet :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Info on ARPA issue DATE: 09-Jun-05 12:20:51 HOST: sverige I think that only smj can restore your settings, but here are some tips for the future, for everyone, ... kill -9 -1 will take out all your background processes. always reconnect after a drop, and run ps to check; or just go ahead and kill check/run top after launching anything or periodically while using cgis There may be other useful measures which I haven't discovered yet :) ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Power Loss and Damage DATE: 14-Jul-05 01:05:27 HOST: sverige I'm sorry to hear of your loss, Robert. I'm sure it's not the first time many of us have experienced firsthand the direct consequence of incomplete filewrite due to catastrophic failure of one sort or another, especially on multi-tasking systems. I don't know of any backup or redundancy strategies which would preserve your file through a power failure, though there may be one, I doubt it's affordable. In your case, any recent backup would be helpful however; single flat file that it is, wouldn't have to be restored to the same location, or if it were, and the existing file at the location backed up to elsewhere, it would indeed minimize your loss. Anyway, ... cheers? hugs? beer? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Power Loss and Damage DATE: 14-Jul-05 01:05:27 HOST: sverige I'm sorry to hear of your loss, Robert. I'm sure it's not the first time many of us have experienced firsthand the direct consequence of incomplete filewrite due to catastrophic failure of one sort or another, especially on multi-tasking systems. I don't know of any backup or redundancy strategies which would preserve your file through a power failure, though there may be one, I doubt it's affordable. In your case, any recent backup would be helpful however; single flat file that it is, wouldn't have to be restored to the same location, or if it were, and the existing file at the location backed up to elsewhere, it would indeed minimize your loss. Anyway, ... cheers? hugs? beer? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. nmap for meta arpa DATE: 19-Apr-05 15:23:00 HOST: sverige My concern about nmap is that some of us might *accidently* misuse it, not with malice or negligence, but from ignorance or carelessness. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. nmap for meta arpa DATE: 19-Apr-05 15:23:00 HOST: sverige My concern about nmap is that some of us might *accidently* misuse it, not with malice or negligence, but from ignorance or carelessness. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. irssi DATE: 15-Jun-05 12:19:30 HOST: sverige This irssi user is also sad to see that it has been removed; and am presently striving to be a good sdfizen by attempting compilation in /tmp I'll post here how it went when I succeed or give up. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. irssi DATE: 15-Jun-05 12:19:30 HOST: sverige This irssi user is also sad to see that it has been removed; and am presently striving to be a good sdfizen by attempting compilation in /tmp I'll post here how it went when I succeed or give up. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. irssi DATE: 15-Jun-05 13:54:12 HOST: sverige I got one compiled without perl (or proxy or bot) support. While it's there, you can get it from sverige:/tmp/irssi/ You're also invited to attempt your own compilations in that location. I'm done with it for now; the result seems to be working fine for my purposes. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. irssi DATE: 15-Jun-05 13:54:12 HOST: sverige I got one compiled without perl (or proxy or bot) support. While it's there, you can get it from sverige:/tmp/irssi/ You're also invited to attempt your own compilations in that location. I'm done with it for now; the result seems to be working fine for my purposes. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. host not found? DATE: 15-Jun-05 20:35:30 HOST: sverige also 'dig' please, noting that 'host' has been restored, and with thanks for the active responses to other requests for irssi, ruptime, and much more. Thank you, smj. I'll send money as soon as I can. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. host not found? DATE: 15-Jun-05 20:35:30 HOST: sverige also 'dig' please, noting that 'host' has been restored, and with thanks for the active responses to other requests for irssi, ruptime, and much more. Thank you, smj. I'll send money as soon as I can. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. helpdesk. adding to closed ticket DATE: 17-May-05 01:29:33 HOST: sverige (V)iew is good; deserving of a place on the (H)elp screen, eh? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. helpdesk. adding to closed ticket DATE: 17-May-05 01:29:33 HOST: sverige (V)iew is good; deserving of a place on the (H)elp screen, eh? ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sdf on spamcop's list again... DATE: 19-Nov-05 07:34:33 HOST: sverige One of the biggest reasons sites get listed in spamcop is when they accept mail for delivery, and then decide that they cannot deliver it, and bounce it back to the forged envelope sender. I don't think SDF does this, but haven't really put tests to it. It seems that this problem exists more with qmail based virtual/shared hosting operationns. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sdf on spamcop's list again... DATE: 19-Nov-05 07:34:33 HOST: sverige One of the biggest reasons sites get listed in spamcop is when they accept mail for delivery, and then decide that they cannot deliver it, and bounce it back to the forged envelope sender. I don't think SDF does this, but haven't really put tests to it. It seems that this problem exists more with qmail based virtual/shared hosting operationns. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sdf on spamcop's list again... DATE: 20-Nov-05 07:41:55 HOST: sverige The reponse from Don (who has been with SpamCop for a very long time) provided an important illumination, pointing to an SDF user who is using SpamCop reporting services without properly configuring them. It isn't necessarily, or particularly likely, that there is malicious intent; just careless reporting. By way of background, SpamCop was started as a project to parse Received headers in order to determine the source of the spam, and to report the IP semi-automatically. After several years of evolution, the SpamCop reporting process implemented a database of mail servers which legitimately handle the mail for the users who use SC to analyze and report spam. This is the part which Don referenced that was not properly activated by the SC user who inadvertently or carelessly reported SDF. OR, it could be something completely else all together. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sdf on spamcop's list again... DATE: 20-Nov-05 07:41:55 HOST: sverige The reponse from Don (who has been with SpamCop for a very long time) provided an important illumination, pointing to an SDF user who is using SpamCop reporting services without properly configuring them. It isn't necessarily, or particularly likely, that there is malicious intent; just careless reporting. By way of background, SpamCop was started as a project to parse Received headers in order to determine the source of the spam, and to report the IP semi-automatically. After several years of evolution, the SpamCop reporting process implemented a database of mail servers which legitimately handle the mail for the users who use SC to analyze and report spam. This is the part which Don referenced that was not properly activated by the SC user who inadvertently or carelessly reported SDF. OR, it could be something completely else all together. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Permissions DATE: 20-Jul-05 02:20:10 HOST: sverige user 'root' took ownership and changed permissions; and only 'root' knows why. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Permissions DATE: 20-Jul-05 02:20:10 HOST: sverige user 'root' took ownership and changed permissions; and only 'root' knows why. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. VNC DATE: 21-Sep-05 00:45:32 HOST: sverige I'm curious how you'd use it, being a thruput intensive graphical application. Do folks use X here in the Super Dimensional Fortress? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. VNC DATE: 21-Sep-05 00:45:32 HOST: sverige I'm curious how you'd use it, being a thruput intensive graphical application. Do folks use X here in the Super Dimensional Fortress? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. VNC DATE: 22-Sep-05 00:53:20 HOST: sverige Workspot is pretty snappy; I'm impressed. and thanks to Robert for the explanation. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. VNC DATE: 22-Sep-05 00:53:20 HOST: sverige Workspot is pretty snappy; I'm impressed. and thanks to Robert for the explanation. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. unkillable processes DATE: 24-Jul-05 13:57:26 HOST: sverige I use "kill -9 -1" [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. unkillable processes DATE: 24-Jul-05 13:57:26 HOST: sverige I use "kill -9 -1" .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. respond to helpdesk email via helpdesk DATE: 26-Nov-05 22:03:19 HOST: sverige Yes. I would prefer helpdesk replies and dialog take place in helpdesk rather then in email. That said, most, in fact all, email responders have been very courteous and sincere; a pleasure to meet and to work with. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. respond to helpdesk email via helpdesk DATE: 26-Nov-05 22:03:19 HOST: sverige Yes. I would prefer helpdesk replies and dialog take place in helpdesk rather then in email. That said, most, in fact all, email responders have been very courteous and sincere; a pleasure to meet and to work with. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sverige acting a little lagged today DATE: 27-Jun-05 17:54:18 HOST: sverige I also have noticed sverige, or something between hither and yon, "hanging" for ?5-15 seconds? before responding; and I do run through some routes which could cause this completely outside of SDF. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. sverige acting a little lagged today DATE: 27-Jun-05 17:54:18 HOST: sverige I also have noticed sverige, or something between hither and yon, "hanging" for ?5-15 seconds? before responding; and I do run through some routes which could cause this completely outside of SDF. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. motd DATE: 29-Jun-05 04:11:44 HOST: sverige members with webspace in the former /www/ag/ structure will probably need to run 'mkhomepg' in order to fix their links to the new /www/af/ location >>/etc/motd [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. motd DATE: 29-Jun-05 04:11:44 HOST: sverige members with webspace in the former /www/ag/ structure will probably need to run 'mkhomepg' in order to fix their links to the new /www/af/ location >>/etc/motd .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Perl Module Time..Object DATE: 30-Oct-05 22:36:54 HOST: sverige quite so; it seems Thank you. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Perl Module Time..Object DATE: 30-Oct-05 22:36:54 HOST: sverige quite so; it seems Thank you. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Discussion DATE: 05-Jul-05 17:09:59 HOST: sverige If the last five years are any clue, the wacko in the white house will nominate another complete wacko for the post, rather than some level head who could easily get 65% support. Then he'll throw a tantrum. A conservative would be a breath of fresh air. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Discussion DATE: 05-Jul-05 17:09:59 HOST: sverige If the last five years are any clue, the wacko in the white house will nominate another complete wacko for the post, rather than some level head who could easily get 65% support. Then he'll throw a tantrum. A conservative would be a breath of fresh air. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. enclosure/materials DATE: 21-May-05 14:33:05 HOST: sverige My case won't accomodate increasing fan size. What do you have for quiet psu and cpu_fan? I expect that these are my loudest components. Thanks. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. enclosure/materials DATE: 21-May-05 14:33:05 HOST: sverige My case won't accomodate increasing fan size. What do you have for quiet psu and cpu_fan? I expect that these are my loudest components. Thanks. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. enclosure/materials DATE: 23-May-05 03:01:04 HOST: sverige Thanks, James for the extensive information. As it happens, I recently added a Sonata case to the room, and was frankly disappointed to discover that it isn't much quieter (?) than my Lian-Li which I run full time nearby and is the target of this silencing endeavor. Your tips on ducting are most apropos. My case sits off a carpeted floor between my steelcase desk and wood pannelled wall. Most of its sound pollution seems to be the PSU exhaust from Enermax 350. I'm not excited about trying a different PSU, so absorbing or diffusing that airflow is my primary intent. I've been thinking to find a soundproofing material, such as the Sheetblock you identified (thanks!), maybe together with Mineral Fiber Insulation to suspend or drape a covering around the back, top, and sides of the computer case, redirecting the exhaust flow around toward the front side and reducing its sound along the way, baffling if necessary. It doesn't have to be pretty :) I'd be eager to replace the Volcano-7 Athlon cooler along the way. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. enclosure/materials DATE: 23-May-05 03:01:04 HOST: sverige Thanks, James for the extensive information. As it happens, I recently added a Sonata case to the room, and was frankly disappointed to discover that it isn't much quieter (?) than my Lian-Li which I run full time nearby and is the target of this silencing endeavor. Your tips on ducting are most apropos. My case sits off a carpeted floor between my steelcase desk and wood pannelled wall. Most of its sound pollution seems to be the PSU exhaust from Enermax 350. I'm not excited about trying a different PSU, so absorbing or diffusing that airflow is my primary intent. I've been thinking to find a soundproofing material, such as the Sheetblock you identified (thanks!), maybe together with Mineral Fiber Insulation to suspend or drape a covering around the back, top, and sides of the computer case, redirecting the exhaust flow around toward the front side and reducing its sound along the way, baffling if necessary. It doesn't have to be pretty :) I'd be eager to replace the Volcano-7 Athlon cooler along the way. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. enclosure/materials DATE: 23-May-05 04:23:17 HOST: sverige Nice, wm! Following the links, "pure mineral oil" is preferred to ordinary cooking oil. That's a really very clever approach to cooling, which takes care of most noise; and with the addition of color and backlighting, an outstanding project indeed. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. enclosure/materials DATE: 23-May-05 04:23:17 HOST: sverige Nice, wm! Following the links, "pure mineral oil" is preferred to ordinary cooking oil. That's a really very clever approach to cooling, which takes care of most noise; and with the addition of color and backlighting, an outstanding project indeed. ......TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. quieting a system? DATE: 07-Nov-05 14:02:35 HOST: sverige >it was an IBM KB-8923 That's what I use. Don't drop that baby on your foot! Mine needs an internal cleaning however; has become "enthusiastic" with hyper-keyrate intermittent. Is anything like these produced today? -- [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. quieting a system? DATE: 07-Nov-05 14:02:35 HOST: sverige >it was an IBM KB-8923 That's what I use. Don't drop that baby on your foot! Mine needs an internal cleaning however; has become "enthusiastic" with hyper-keyrate intermittent. Is anything like these produced today? -- TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. quieting a system? DATE: 30-Oct-05 22:40:10 HOST: sverige Which quiet power supply did you replace it with? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. quieting a system? DATE: 30-Oct-05 22:40:10 HOST: sverige Which quiet power supply did you replace it with? ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Looking for a Moo Cows .. DATE: 22-Jun-05 20:25:44 HOST: sverige I've never been involved in any kind of MOO or MUD before. I see that 'tf' is installed here as a client. Should I use that to get my feet wet? Is there a THX based server operating which I should visit for newbie orientation? Catchin' my drift? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Looking for a Moo Cows .. DATE: 22-Jun-05 20:25:44 HOST: sverige I've never been involved in any kind of MOO or MUD before. I see that 'tf' is installed here as a client. Should I use that to get my feet wet? Is there a THX based server operating which I should visit for newbie orientation? Catchin' my drift? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Some active volcano DATE: 04-Jan-05 03:36:49 HOST: sverige It should be noted that I saw a documentary on the North Atlantic super Tsunami over a year or two ago on television. It started with research into a glacier breaking off into the Gulf of Alaska, causing water to wash over a nearby island, and was also detected as far distant as Hawaii. So the researchers went looking for the worst possible scenario in all the oceans. I don't recall the N.Atlantic discovery as being triggered by volcano, but it was a very large chunck of a former volcano which breaks off and falls into the N.Atlantic, on the west side of some island near the Canarys. Ocean waters would rush inland several miles into N.America; washing everything off Florida of course. I don't recall if the documentary was on PBS or Discovery or otherwise. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Some active volcano DATE: 04-Jan-05 03:36:49 HOST: sverige It should be noted that I saw a documentary on the North Atlantic super Tsunami over a year or two ago on television. It started with research into a glacier breaking off into the Gulf of Alaska, causing water to wash over a nearby island, and was also detected as far distant as Hawaii. So the researchers went looking for the worst possible scenario in all the oceans. I don't recall the N.Atlantic discovery as being triggered by volcano, but it was a very large chunck of a former volcano which breaks off and falls into the N.Atlantic, on the west side of some island near the Canarys. Ocean waters would rush inland several miles into N.America; washing everything off Florida of course. I don't recall if the documentary was on PBS or Discovery or otherwise. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Some active volcano DATE: 08-Jan-05 20:49:11 HOST: sverige I found the documentary, called Mega-Tsunamis on Discovery Channel. Original Airdate: February 19, 2001. Currently showing. ref. http://dsc.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=23086&gid=0&channel=DSC Indeed, volcanic island, La Palma, in the Canaries. Last big event reformed the Bahamas. From inception to impact on N.America, estimated 8 hours. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Some active volcano DATE: 08-Jan-05 20:49:11 HOST: sverige I found the documentary, called Mega-Tsunamis on Discovery Channel. Original Airdate: February 19, 2001. Currently showing. ref. http://dsc.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=23086&gid=0&channel=DSC Indeed, volcanic island, La Palma, in the Canaries. Last big event reformed the Bahamas. From inception to impact on N.America, estimated 8 hours. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ask yourself this .. DATE: 28-Dec-04 04:44:15 HOST: sverige Attributing earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, drought, weather, etc. demonstrates a complete failure to understand either natural science or God. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ask yourself this .. DATE: 28-Dec-04 04:44:15 HOST: sverige Attributing earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, drought, weather, etc. demonstrates a complete failure to understand either natural science or God. ...TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Any experiences with these? DATE: 18-May-05 13:38:48 HOST: sverige Christopher, all I see at 360-hosting.com is standard shared hosting. Virtual Private/Dedicated Servers are independent rebootable reconfigurable virtual *servers* running on a single computer; offering the user account something like 10GB of disk space, 500GB monthly xfer, 256MB RAM guaranteed minimum, and a bootable OS with which you can do as you please. They are dedicated servers sharing hardware. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Any experiences with these? DATE: 18-May-05 13:38:48 HOST: sverige Christopher, all I see at 360-hosting.com is standard shared hosting. Virtual Private/Dedicated Servers are independent rebootable reconfigurable virtual *servers* running on a single computer; offering the user account something like 10GB of disk space, 500GB monthly xfer, 256MB RAM guaranteed minimum, and a bootable OS with which you can do as you please. They are dedicated servers sharing hardware. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. "We will never surrender!" DATE: 12-Jul-05 21:45:05 HOST: sverige http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20050707 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. "We will never surrender!" DATE: 12-Jul-05 21:45:05 HOST: sverige http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20050707 .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Next President? DATE: 21-Dec-04 19:41:17 HOST: sverige now that the takeover is complete and un-challenged, it'll either be Ahnaald, or look for a constitutional amendment to enable the current doofus to stay forever. Don't change horses in mid-Apocolypse. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Next President? DATE: 21-Dec-04 19:41:17 HOST: sverige now that the takeover is complete and un-challenged, it'll either be Ahnaald, or look for a constitutional amendment to enable the current doofus to stay forever. Don't change horses in mid-Apocolypse. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Power of Nightmares DATE: 23-Jan-05 15:57:03 HOST: sverige I heartily endorse watching this series. Torrent files available http://avoyager.freeshell.org/ [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. The Power of Nightmares DATE: 23-Jan-05 15:57:03 HOST: sverige I heartily endorse watching this series. Torrent files available http://avoyager.freeshell.org/ TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. severe crisis in South Dakota DATE: 01-Dec-05 22:10:40 HOST: sverige yes, the BBC has been covering the Gulf Stream lately also. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. severe crisis in South Dakota DATE: 01-Dec-05 22:10:40 HOST: sverige yes, the BBC has been covering the Gulf Stream lately also. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 02-Dec-05 20:22:01 HOST: sverige I don't know who advocates (as distinct from talking about, as slack media might) seriously that global warming "causes" extreme hurrican season or even hurricanes at all. It might be more reasonable to consider whether the extreme burricane season is just another evidence of whatever is causing ocean levels to drown long habitated atolls, and glaciers to melt and break up at rates far exceeding historic trends, amongst other observed events of relative interest. My initial point was only that disassociation based upon a single parameter of warmer waters is no more legitimate than association based upon a single parameter of air temperatures. And in today's civic-political climate, any university or other research in the U.S. will certainly take the big heat and suffering if they assert or support any science which does not fit into the ruling political ideologies. Accordingly, we may have to interperate true intent from between the lines of the statements actually made. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 02-Dec-05 20:22:01 HOST: sverige I don't know who advocates (as distinct from talking about, as slack media might) seriously that global warming "causes" extreme hurrican season or even hurricanes at all. It might be more reasonable to consider whether the extreme burricane season is just another evidence of whatever is causing ocean levels to drown long habitated atolls, and glaciers to melt and break up at rates far exceeding historic trends, amongst other observed events of relative interest. My initial point was only that disassociation based upon a single parameter of warmer waters is no more legitimate than association based upon a single parameter of air temperatures. And in today's civic-political climate, any university or other research in the U.S. will certainly take the big heat and suffering if they assert or support any science which does not fit into the ruling political ideologies. Accordingly, we may have to interperate true intent from between the lines of the statements actually made. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 03-Dec-05 20:42:11 HOST: sverige Fred, I'm interested in understanding your use of "cosmic" in this discussion. Your explanation is welcome to presume that I understand more than a little something about spirituality and astrology. For my part, being perhaps the third oldest gentleman in the membership and acknowledging your rank at the top, it's quite clear that all things commonly and incorrectly attributed as "acts of God" have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with God, but are well understood in their entirety as natural processes. Very well understood, and very natural, appropriate to the physical universe of nature; not to the spiritual universe of the divine within which we also exist interactively without constraints of time, space, or other natural and physical parameters. I just saw a fine documentary on the "little ice age" of the 14-17th centuries; very interesting and important to the development of civilization in Europe and North America. If you get a chance and inclination, I recommend the National Geographic film "March of the Penguins". Aside from the amazing photography and fascinating information, it reveals frequently how very very close they, and perhaps we, are to extinction, due to factors *mostly* beyond their/our control, be those factors natural or "cosmic". [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 03-Dec-05 20:42:11 HOST: sverige Fred, I'm interested in understanding your use of "cosmic" in this discussion. Your explanation is welcome to presume that I understand more than a little something about spirituality and astrology. For my part, being perhaps the third oldest gentleman in the membership and acknowledging your rank at the top, it's quite clear that all things commonly and incorrectly attributed as "acts of God" have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with God, but are well understood in their entirety as natural processes. Very well understood, and very natural, appropriate to the physical universe of nature; not to the spiritual universe of the divine within which we also exist interactively without constraints of time, space, or other natural and physical parameters. I just saw a fine documentary on the "little ice age" of the 14-17th centuries; very interesting and important to the development of civilization in Europe and North America. If you get a chance and inclination, I recommend the National Geographic film "March of the Penguins". Aside from the amazing photography and fascinating information, it reveals frequently how very very close they, and perhaps we, are to extinction, due to factors *mostly* beyond their/our control, be those factors natural or "cosmic". TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 03-Dec-05 21:25:20 HOST: sverige well, not *perfectly* understood :) as the NWS reports at 4pm EST on 3 December *Hurricane* "Epsilon has continued to strengthen against all odds" [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 03-Dec-05 21:25:20 HOST: sverige well, not *perfectly* understood :) as the NWS reports at 4pm EST on 3 December *Hurricane* "Epsilon has continued to strengthen against all odds" TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 07-Dec-05 13:25:57 HOST: sverige Fred, you're my kind of scientist, always taking a measure of how wrong we are. Accordingly, the retention of hair upon your head is not necessarily a reflection of your time spent in "adult stores", or on the beach ;-} [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 07-Dec-05 13:25:57 HOST: sverige Fred, you're my kind of scientist, always taking a measure of how wrong we are. Accordingly, the retention of hair upon your head is not necessarily a reflection of your time spent in "adult stores", or on the beach ;-} TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 07-Dec-05 22:52:32 HOST: sverige I think the fact set includes observation that the burning of carbon based fuels does pollute the atmosphere, and has consequences both direct and indirect which are both unintentional and unrecognized; and that Ethopia is not the largest source of this activity. Peace, [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. hurricanes and global warming DATE: 07-Dec-05 22:52:32 HOST: sverige I think the fact set includes observation that the burning of carbon based fuels does pollute the atmosphere, and has consequences both direct and indirect which are both unintentional and unrecognized; and that Ethopia is not the largest source of this activity. Peace, TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ophelia along U.S. east coast DATE: 13-Sep-05 04:32:12 HOST: sverige William Gray, the father and icon of hurricane forecasting, does not subscribe to theories of man-influenced global warming, so he couldn't possibly say that such a thing has any impact on hurricanes. He insists that global temperature changes are "due to ocean circulation changes and other factors. It is not human induced." ref. http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-05/departments/discover-dialogue/ The ocean circulation changes he references are the shallow El Nino surface temperatures in the equatorial Pacific; not the deep Atlantic thermohaline circulation (aka meridional overturning circulation) which warms the North Atlantic surface, which seems to have a 100,000 year cycle which culminates in "ice ages" evidenced over the 10 cycle term of a million years. ref. http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/ocng_textbook/chapter13/chapter13_01.htm Though meteorologists cannot ignore the interaction with oceans, and oceanographers cannot ignore the interactions with different air masses and motions, there's still much science to be enjoyed in studying their interface specifically. In general however, it is common to observe that water temperatures are more stable than air temperatures. As to hurricanes, it seems to me that "an active season" requires more than just one of the components a)storm formation, b)storm intensity development, and c)storm motion influences. Which is to say that simple 1:1 cause:effect relationships can only be considered within the context of many others. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ophelia along U.S. east coast DATE: 13-Sep-05 04:32:12 HOST: sverige William Gray, the father and icon of hurricane forecasting, does not subscribe to theories of man-influenced global warming, so he couldn't possibly say that such a thing has any impact on hurricanes. He insists that global temperature changes are "due to ocean circulation changes and other factors. It is not human induced." ref. http://www.discover.com/issues/sep-05/departments/discover-dialogue/ The ocean circulation changes he references are the shallow El Nino surface temperatures in the equatorial Pacific; not the deep Atlantic thermohaline circulation (aka meridional overturning circulation) which warms the North Atlantic surface, which seems to have a 100,000 year cycle which culminates in "ice ages" evidenced over the 10 cycle term of a million years. ref. http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/ocng_textbook/chapter13/chapter13_01.htm Though meteorologists cannot ignore the interaction with oceans, and oceanographers cannot ignore the interactions with different air masses and motions, there's still much science to be enjoyed in studying their interface specifically. In general however, it is common to observe that water temperatures are more stable than air temperatures. As to hurricanes, it seems to me that "an active season" requires more than just one of the components a)storm formation, b)storm intensity development, and c)storm motion influences. Which is to say that simple 1:1 cause:effect relationships can only be considered within the context of many others. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ophelia along U.S. east coast DATE: 13-Sep-05 16:14:59 HOST: sverige Hi Jeff. The media has also contributed to the unsupportable notion that global warming, by whatever cause, is significant contributor to many other things besides just an unusual Atlantic hurricane season. Meteorology is one of those fine sciences of scope which is way beyond the grasp of uneducated masses. I've been a semi-avid hobbiest, informal student, and watcher for many years. Did you ever happen to meet Ilana? Part of the global warming debate problem has been rather ostensible propaganda promulgated by vested interests; another part is the current government's obvious disdain for facts and science, togeher with its/their suck-up to their benefactors. More importantly to me however is a preference for use of the precautionary principle; and an acknowledgement of the law of unintended consequences. --Avo [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Ophelia along U.S. east coast DATE: 13-Sep-05 16:14:59 HOST: sverige Hi Jeff. The media has also contributed to the unsupportable notion that global warming, by whatever cause, is significant contributor to many other things besides just an unusual Atlantic hurricane season. Meteorology is one of those fine sciences of scope which is way beyond the grasp of uneducated masses. I've been a semi-avid hobbiest, informal student, and watcher for many years. Did you ever happen to meet Ilana? Part of the global warming debate problem has been rather ostensible propaganda promulgated by vested interests; another part is the current government's obvious disdain for facts and science, togeher with its/their suck-up to their benefactors. More importantly to me however is a preference for use of the precautionary principle; and an acknowledgement of the law of unintended consequences. --Avo TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Weather forecasts for the US DATE: 14-Sep-05 17:28:01 HOST: sverige also/or telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com there were more in '96 http://cirrus.sprl.umich.edu/wxnet/servers.html gopher, telnet, and ftp sites are listed at the bottom; some may still respond. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Weather forecasts for the US DATE: 14-Sep-05 17:28:01 HOST: sverige also/or telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com there were more in '96 http://cirrus.sprl.umich.edu/wxnet/servers.html gopher, telnet, and ftp sites are listed at the bottom; some may still respond. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wilma DATE: 24-Oct-05 19:51:32 HOST: sverige heading up the east coast http://headlines.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&myadc=0&traveler=0&article=0 http://headlines.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&myadc=0&traveler=0&article=1 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Wilma DATE: 24-Oct-05 19:51:32 HOST: sverige heading up the east coast http://headlines.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&myadc=0&traveler=0&article=0 http://headlines.accuweather.com/news-story.asp?partner=accuweather&myadc=0&traveler=0&article=1 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Rita is Cat 5 DATE: 22-Sep-05 01:39:59 HOST: sverige THE PRESSURE HAS BEEN FALLING RAPIDLY DURING THE DAY AND THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 898 MB...26.52 INCHES. THIS MAKES RITA THE THIRD MOST INTENSE HURRICANE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN. ---- WTNT33 KNHC 220008 TCPAT3 BULLETIN HURRICANE RITA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A...CORRECTED NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 7 PM CDT WED SEP 21 2005 [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Rita is Cat 5 DATE: 22-Sep-05 01:39:59 HOST: sverige THE PRESSURE HAS BEEN FALLING RAPIDLY DURING THE DAY AND THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 898 MB...26.52 INCHES. THIS MAKES RITA THE THIRD MOST INTENSE HURRICANE IN TERMS OF PRESSURE IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN. ---- WTNT33 KNHC 220008 TCPAT3 BULLETIN HURRICANE RITA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A...CORRECTED NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 7 PM CDT WED SEP 21 2005 TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Rita is Cat 5 DATE: 22-Sep-05 04:16:05 HOST: sverige >>And this is because I voted for bush, right? Not necessarily, John. Some think it's because the bleeding heart environmentalists forgot to go to Iraq. Some think it's because of something the Pope did, or didn't, do in the middle of his term. And yet others, if you can believe it, assert that this is a 14th dimensional consequence of all the lying which has been done regarding the alleged linkages between HIV and obesity. Frankly, there's just no accounting for the foibles of either geeks or tweeks these days; and those who used to care about, and research, these phenomena have either given up or lost their funding, and are right now standing in the same lines as their former subjects and patrons. It might even rain in Modesto for the first time since Reagan was elected, John; and that, I assure you, has caused people to swallow their fingernails, again because of the environmentalists, causing them to bleed where they ought'nt; and *that* is causing a Chineese butterfly effect upon the fourth branch of the southern pretty-if-ugly-christian conference which was hoping to get through this decade without a scandal. If this doesn't answer your question, perhaps there will be additional perspectives available on your local transit system. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Rita is Cat 5 DATE: 22-Sep-05 04:16:05 HOST: sverige >>And this is because I voted for bush, right? Not necessarily, John. Some think it's because the bleeding heart environmentalists forgot to go to Iraq. Some think it's because of something the Pope did, or didn't, do in the middle of his term. And yet others, if you can believe it, assert that this is a 14th dimensional consequence of all the lying which has been done regarding the alleged linkages between HIV and obesity. Frankly, there's just no accounting for the foibles of either geeks or tweeks these days; and those who used to care about, and research, these phenomena have either given up or lost their funding, and are right now standing in the same lines as their former subjects and patrons. It might even rain in Modesto for the first time since Reagan was elected, John; and that, I assure you, has caused people to swallow their fingernails, again because of the environmentalists, causing them to bleed where they ought'nt; and *that* is causing a Chineese butterfly effect upon the fourth branch of the southern pretty-if-ugly-christian conference which was hoping to get through this decade without a scandal. If this doesn't answer your question, perhaps there will be additional perspectives available on your local transit system. .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How to load balance across two servers? DATE: 01-Apr-05 16:03:11 HOST: sverige "Hopefully alternatives that don't require you to pay a third party." Most particularly on a recurring, especially annual, basis, eh? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How to load balance across two servers? DATE: 01-Apr-05 16:03:11 HOST: sverige "Hopefully alternatives that don't require you to pay a third party." Most particularly on a recurring, especially annual, basis, eh? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How to load balance across two servers? DATE: 01-Apr-05 18:43:41 HOST: sverige what happens if you put two different A records into the zonefile? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How to load balance across two servers? DATE: 01-Apr-05 18:43:41 HOST: sverige what happens if you put two different A records into the zonefile? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How to load balance across two servers? DATE: 01-Apr-05 19:10:23 HOST: sverige A search on 'failover' reveals: "A better way to do the "poor mans version" is to have both servers as NS servers for that doman (and only those two, since if they're both down it really doesnt matter). Set the TTL very low, 1-5 minutes or so and have each server point DNS queries to itself." What this does not state specifically is that you then also need to establish zonefiles on each server. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. How to load balance across two servers? DATE: 01-Apr-05 19:10:23 HOST: sverige A search on 'failover' reveals: "A better way to do the "poor mans version" is to have both servers as NS servers for that doman (and only those two, since if they're both down it really doesnt matter). Set the TTL very low, 1-5 minutes or so and have each server point DNS queries to itself." What this does not state specifically is that you then also need to establish zonefiles on each server. ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I am retarded DATE: 09-Jul-05 01:31:02 HOST: sverige run mkhomepg; then depost this bulletin; thanks :) [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. I am retarded DATE: 09-Jul-05 01:31:02 HOST: sverige run mkhomepg; then depost this bulletin; thanks :) TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. n00b-ish question DATE: 08-Jun-05 15:25:48 HOST: sverige >is the www ever necessary It's entirely up to the domain managers, and which hostnames and servers are assigned to which physical systems. This question requires more effort to answer, or to ask, than it does to understand, given a little knowledge, experience, and active thought. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. n00b-ish question DATE: 08-Jun-05 15:25:48 HOST: sverige >is the www ever necessary It's entirely up to the domain managers, and which hostnames and servers are assigned to which physical systems. This question requires more effort to answer, or to ask, than it does to understand, given a little knowledge, experience, and active thought. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. setting up a wiki site (w/o mysql) DATE: 09-Nov-05 06:41:21 HOST: sverige also, PMwiki is good; and you can still send money to SDF! ;-} [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. setting up a wiki site (w/o mysql) DATE: 09-Nov-05 06:41:21 HOST: sverige also, PMwiki is good; and you can still send money to SDF! ;-} ..TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. permissions on ~/html 'reset' ? DATE: 15-Apr-05 12:00:39 HOST: sverige or test them each and figure out which ones are bad [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. permissions on ~/html 'reset' ? DATE: 15-Apr-05 12:00:39 HOST: sverige or test them each and figure out which ones are bad ........TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. World War 3 DATE: 18-Oct-05 12:08:26 HOST: sverige ... and for Nepalese to get their country back; and for Bolivians to keep theirs ... [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. World War 3 DATE: 18-Oct-05 12:08:26 HOST: sverige ... and for Nepalese to get their country back; and for Bolivians to keep theirs ... .TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Do you shop at big box mart? DATE: 19-Oct-05 04:22:23 HOST: sverige >>"I do, not that I have a choice, ..." and the benefit of capitalism used to be competition, distributed ownership, and an expanding middle class; now it is in each case the opposite. Shouldn't it have a different name, now that it's been redefined? [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Do you shop at big box mart? DATE: 19-Oct-05 04:22:23 HOST: sverige >>"I do, not that I have a choice, ..." and the benefit of capitalism used to be competition, distributed ownership, and an expanding middle class; now it is in each case the opposite. Shouldn't it have a different name, now that it's been redefined? TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Do you shop at big box mart? DATE: 20-Oct-05 13:27:11 HOST: sverige quoting from http://www.oriononline.org/pages/om/05-5om/Solnit.html neoliberalism: the ideology of unfettered capitalism manifested as deregulation, as privatization of resources and services, as drastically reduced social services, and as dismissal of the value of community, civil society, and the public-as in public lands or public good. Or, in a nutshell, the opening of a place to unregulated plundering. Neoliberals assert that their activities provide widespread benefits despite massive evidence to the contrary. [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. Do you shop at big box mart? DATE: 20-Oct-05 13:27:11 HOST: sverige quoting from http://www.oriononline.org/pages/om/05-5om/Solnit.html neoliberalism: the ideology of unfettered capitalism manifested as deregulation, as privatization of resources and services, as drastically reduced social services, and as dismissal of the value of community, civil society, and the public-as in public lands or public good. Or, in a nutshell, the opening of a place to unregulated plundering. Neoliberals assert that their activities provide widespread benefits despite massive evidence to the contrary. TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. American Enigma ! DATE: 21-Oct-05 18:39:34 HOST: sverige >"Whether we like it or not, America does have a national identity." America has at least two completely different and incompatible national identities. One is arrogant and rules by force; the other humble, and leads by compassion. and another just trudges through life, giving nothing, taking nothing, expecting nothing, .... at least that's the way *I* see it ;-} [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. American Enigma ! DATE: 21-Oct-05 18:39:34 HOST: sverige >"Whether we like it or not, America does have a national identity." America has at least two completely different and incompatible national identities. One is arrogant and rules by force; the other humble, and leads by compassion. and another just trudges through life, giving nothing, taking nothing, expecting nothing, .... at least that's the way *I* see it ;-} TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. American Enigma ! DATE: 21-Oct-05 21:19:42 HOST: sverige I don't know that anything is uniqely American, perhaps other than being born there, as it might differ from being born $there or %there% [ to CONT, (J)UMP or (Q)UIT ] CONT TACKER: avoyager (Avo Yager) SUBJECT: .. American Enigma ! DATE: 21-Oct-05 21:19:42 HOST: sverige I don't know that anything is uniqely American, perhaps other than being born there, as it might differ from being born $there or %there% [OK] Command: % Type (H)ELP for Commands. Command: % Type (H)ELP for Commands. Command: QUIT