Wed Sep 11 18:33:23 UTC 2002 To the reader: Its almost been 8 years since this post was made by Steven Parker. I feel all of these texts should be made public (mainly the private emails) just so the issue can be made clear. I did not respond to him publically, which alot of my peers felt was a very good show of restraint. First the people involved: Ted Uhlemann - Started the SDF in 1987, left in 1992 to form Texas Metronet Daniel Finster - SDF user, sysadm in 1991 left in 1992 to form Texas Metronet (dismissed) and returned to SDF for a bit of 1993. Stephen Jones - co-sysop of SDF 1989, full operations in 1992 to present Steven Parker - helped 'killer', helped 'sdf' 1992-1993, ex-Texas Metronet employee/share holder (dismissed). 05-MAY-03: df, srl and I had dinner and srl told us that 'sp' was paid $10,000 of Texas Metronet's start up cash to leave. df and I did not know that. Roy Neese - Operated 'adaptex', a host that fed SDF USENET news from 1991-1996 (adaptex was shutdown when Roy left to form a commercial ISP) Alan Gwinn - Cox School of Business, SMU. Threatened to have the Secret Service called on SDF in 1993 until I met with him and convinced him I wasn't like Daniel Finster. Charlie Boykin - SMU UNIX administrator, ran 'killer' 1985-1990 Mohit Goyal - SDF user who donated $100 to SDF in 1993 SDF - The SDF-1 or SDF Public Access UNIX System. An electronic bulletin board system established in 1987 killer - killer.dallas.tx.us or 'attctc'. A Public Access UNIX system run from 1985-1990 by Charlie Boykin. In all honesty, I don't have any bad feelings toward Steven Parker. We shared alot of things in common. Love of a particular car, operating systems and music .. About his messages .. yes, its not just me saying this, but everyone involved including members of the Texas Lunch Bunch (lonestar.org) agreed that he was very delusional and painted things up to be much different than they were. My personal view/points: 1. Ted left SDF in 1992 to form Texas Metronet, a commercial ISP. Both he and Steven Parker were share holders in that corporation. Daniel Finster also left SDF to work for Texas Metronet, but I don't believe he owned shares. I don't know the details, but Steven Parker was basically fired by Texas Metronet in 1993 .. and thats when he started getting more involved with SDF. He had ideas, good ideas .. but I didn't agree with what he was asking to do. The point being that, I felt that SDF would fail if I didn't personally put the effort that I did in to sustain it. I think this has since been proven .. and if you look at his main USENET post, he stated in 1994 he 'still believed in a truely public run system' and offered to help form one .. . he *never* put as much commitiment into such a project like I have for SDF. 2. Ted, Daniel and I used 'killer' .. Steven Parker worked on that system and developed many utilities for it. When this post was made, I had just been getting to know Charlie Boykin and Rich Andrews personally. (They were both working at SMU and I later went there on a full artist merit scholarship at the Meadows school for the Arts). Charlie told me that Steven Parker was partially to blame for killer's demise. 3. Daniel Finster has alot of problems. I bought him a car (used) about 2 years ago trying to help him .. (his thinking was if he had a car, he could get a job). Ted has loaned him money as well .. though I don't know how much. In 1993 I did ask Daniel to help me out with SDF once again. I wanted Ted to be involved too, but he was busy with Metronet and wanted to make money. I realise that to most outsiders Daniel Finster is just a complete loser .. maybe a Kevin Mitnick type .. but I've known the guy so long I couldn't criminalize him like others have. Ted and Daniel are are co-dependent on each other and are heavy drug users (LSD, speed, pot and alcohol). That makes no difference to me, they are my friends. 4. Steven Parker talks about this last meeting .. I remember going to his office at Shared for that last meeting. I returned a 700mb ESDI drive that he was trying to get me to buy for SDF for $550. The drive had a bad spindle motor. I even had it tested out by a tech to be sure that was the case. I was really quiet and he was introgating me. I really felt uncomfortable in 'business offices' .. at the time I was working in a donut shop preparing cake donuts at 4pm-7pm, then returning at 11:30pm-7:30am to prepare yeast donuts .. at 4:30 I would begin my delivery shift. I did this from 1990-1993 and at many times 7 days a week because I was a reliable employee. He did ask me about donations and I told him that SDF got more than I had previously told him .. however this was not true. I felt so intimidated by him that I wanted to tell him what he wanted to hear. He opened up his wallet before I left and said "Sue wanted me to give this to you" (his girlfriend) and he gave me a $5.00 bill. I took it and then promptly mailed it back to him after I left. In retrospect, I can understand my behaviour. I was basically a kid and he was a middle aged adult. I respected and feared him and could not confront him directly. 5. Ted was kicked out of his mother's house and moved in with me in 1991. Ted did not have a job, though I tried to get him to work at the donut shop. He quit after 1 day. So, I was involved for paying rent, food and of course SDF. 6. I did delete Steven Parker's files from SDF. He had about 60mbs worth of files in /u which was a lot at the time. I tried to tar up his directory and compress it, but I was nervous and wasn't careful .. I finally just ended up blowing it all away. I do regret this, not for his personal files but the fact that we probably lost a bit of killer with this as well. 7. There was no 'administrative council' .. it just didn't exist. It was in Steven Parker's mind. I was so passive to anything he tried to do. There was another individual, Larry Clark .. Steven Parker didn't mention him at all .. I think Larry was just so confused by it all that he opted out. Ted, Daniel and I talked to him on the phone at one point in 1993 and he was a bit discouraged by what was going on with Steven Parker. If anyone has info or questions, you can contact me: smj@sdf.lonestar.org