20260822-devuan.txt A while ago I installed Devuan on one of my laptops. It took a few tries, probably due to user error, but I got it working. That machine (which I'm currently using) is not my primary, but I semi-regularly switch between stretches on certain laptops. It's actually my newest laptop, but there's some really, really weird issue with the mobo getting tucked into a weird space or something to where I have to flex the thing to pop it out. I only noticed because some of my keys (QWERTY K especially) weren't responding. But I figured it was a good candidate to experiment on. And I started using it today because my primary Thinkpad is having real issues with the battery: it either doesn't charge at all or charges extremely slowly. I'm guessing there's some physical issue or the internal battery is toast. Anyway, one reason I quickly went back to my Thinkpad was because I got an error directly installing Vivldi, my preferred browser. I was able to fix it by looking at a StakOverflo post that basically said the PATH variable wasn't set for root/sudo. Anyway, I got it set up and thanks to saving my config, my copy of Vivldi is working as if I never left. Really good stuff. I just need to copy/link/edit some config files for Lynx and Links (I seriously wish NOPAUSE was default on Lynx, but I get why it isn't). One of the reasons I wanted to try Devuan was its maintainers reaction to -privacy invasion- I mean "age verification" laws. They basically told Cali, Colonrado, and Brazil to go fuck themselves, which is good with me. Also, systemd was building a module to comply with that 1984 horseshit, or unicorn shit. So no systemd is great. I'm used to Debian-based distros, so that's another checkmark. And even though I criticized one of Devuan's April Fools' Day pranks basically "vandalizing" their homepage to tout Gopher, it did get my attention. It feels like I'm running a slimmer version of Debian. I definitely approve of Xfce as the default DE, but I prefer to use suckless's dwm. It works just fine for that, though I am currently using the distro package of dwm which has some definite drawbacks. And of course some of my aliases don't work since they're built with systemd in mind. But I will adapt. I'm not comfortable enough with it to migrate my main two PCs just yet (plus my workhorse has specific software that has stopped me from upgrading to the next major version of Debian for years anyway), but I'm sure I will once I figure some things out. TL;DR: Devuan is working for me and I think it's worth trying out if you aren't afraid to search some error codes and have at least some prior experience installing and managing GNU/Linux OSes.