

Msg # 6569   
Date: 06 May 94  08:36:00
From: Bob Johnstone
  To: Joanna Benz
Subj: RE: QUITTING SMOKING
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 > But I still can't really tell if the anxiety attack would be a
 > symptom of physical addiction or psychological addiction...  Seems
 > to me it would be the former, but if psychological, maybe tranquilizers
 > would help?


 It really does not matter much what they are caused by, refraining from
using tobacco for over a week, dramaticly reduces all physical addictions.
Go without them for 12 weeks and it is totally broke.  What is left are the
feelings or behavior caused by psychological addiction.  Tranquilizers help,
but they only give _temporary_ relief, when they wear off the psychological
cause is still present so the feelings come back.

 Practice the mental exercise in the messages, recalling pleasant memories
and pressing the fingers on your left hand until you develop the conditioned
reflex.  You will know you HAVE, when you do NOTHING but sit or lie down,
close your eyes and lightly or firmly press the finger and thumb on your left
hand.  When you can DO nothing more than that, and you find yourself RELAXING
or reducing stress AUTOMATICLY without attempting to think of anything, you
HAVE create the conditioned reflex...... Let me know when that happens, and I
will tell you what to do next to get rid of the _effects_ psychological
addiction.  It is _easier than you have ever been allowed to believe, even
heroin addicts can do it using this method, and it is a LOT easier to do so
with an adiction to tobacco.


 Dr Bob

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Msg # 6849   
Date: 07 May 94  09:46:00
From: Bob Johnstone
  To: Kara Cowan
Subj: RE: QUITTING SMOKING
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 >BK>
 >BK> What if tomorrow would be the day you completely stop craving a
 >BK> smoke? Wouldn't it be too bad to start smoking again today?
 >
 > I know this wasn't aimed at me, but thank you for the insight.  I have
 > been trying to quit for some time now... and I still get nervous when
 > my pack runs low...

 Dont go without a pack, just keep it in a place where it is not so convient
to pick up a cigarette so that it reminds you that you are quitting.....

 Dont even quit, until you have practiced the mental exercise
 in RELAX TO THE MAX, for about three weeks.  In the meantime,
 cut down as much as possible by doing the following.

 1. Each time you take out a cigarette, look at it, think about HOW it would
feel to smoke it or go without it and then take a DEEP breath three times.

 2. Take that cigarette and tear it up into tiny pieces, sure it costs money
to do so, but it WILL cost you MUCH MORE if you continue to smoke.

 3. See how you feel after tearing up the cigarette.  If you feel you can go
without, do so as long as possible.  When you next feel you want one, do the
same thing...... IF AT ANY POINT you feel you cant go without, then take out
another and smoke it, BUT MAKE SURE YOU DO TEAR ONE UP FIRST..... It will do
more for you to break this habit than anything you could imagine or do...

 4. Continue doing this each time you feel like smoking and practicing the
exercise in the series on RELAX TO THE MAX...... you will find that you
REDUCE the amount of cigarettes that you actually smoke, reducing the amount
of nicotine in your system, so that when you do stop completely, it will be
much easier to do so.

 5. IF you do light up and smoke, do nothing else while smoking.  Pay close
attention to HOW you feel as you take a puff.... do you feel satisfied with
the 3rd puff or does it take you 4 to feel satisfied?   NOW at the point
where people feel satisfied, is where they sit talking with a lit cigarette
in their hand or they place it in an ash try to burn as they do other
things.... PUT IT OUT AT THAT TIME, for the smoke you BREATHE while it sits
in that ashtray is the MOST DANGEROUS for you and others around you.....  It
is the reason that "passive" smokers get throat and lung cancer..... as it
burns, it is NOT being filtered thru the cigarette, it contains much more of
the chemicals in the cigarette than what you inhale thru the filter and take
into your lungs.

 6. After practicing the exercise daily for a week or so, when you feel like
a cigarette take one out, sit and look at it, smell it, think of how it would
be to go without it.  Would it cause any STRESS - that - is what makes it
difficult for a tobacco addict or heroin addict to go without smoking.  Think
of that stress, THEN PRESS THE THUMB AND FINGER ON YOUR LEFT HAND and think
of the pleasant feelings that you built up when practicing, and thinking
about pleasant memories.  Think of the stress, the pleasant feelings, switch
back and forth between thoughts of stress you feel when you deprive yourself
of a cigarette, and the pleasant feelings over and over, not less than ten
times.

 7. At that time if you feel you DONT really need to smoke, tear up the
cigarette.... Destroy it..... that is the MOST powerful suggestion you can
give your mind that YOU are in control, that YOU are destroying that habit.

 > It seems like the hardest part for me
 > is the "habit" more than the nicotine.


 Copyrights 1947-1994 by Dr Bob Johnstone
 May be reprinted only with written permission.....

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Msg # 7600   
Date: 23 Mar 94  10:07:00
From: Bob Johnstone
  To: Jayne Murray
Subj: QUITTING SMOKING
____________________________________________________________________________

 > I am stopping smoking on 3/21/94 and will probably be back in this conf
 > quite often. I have stopped several times, once for nearly a year.
 > I have learned a lot of stress management tools.  Depression has
 > always gotten the better of me in the end, but it gets easier every
 > time.

   Pick up the series of messages on CONFLICT RESOLUTION, many times with the
subject of CR, followed by a number.  IF you search for the subject CR there,
and do not find them, just ask and I will repost them.

   Practicing this techniques will help reduce the STRESS caused by quiting
smoking.  And if you have any questions about Quitting, just ask here as I
have worked with thousands of individuals who have quite smoking permanently.

 > I heard there was a BBS called 'Stop Smoking BBS.' If anyone has their
 > number I would deeply appreciate it.

   Well you dont have to call a seperate BBS which may be a long distance
call, even those running such BBS' may not have my experience.  Some would
have only their own experiences quitting smoking, and are actually looking
for help themselves to remain a non smoker.....

   The MOST important thing to remember, what makes it difficult to quit is
thinking of Quitting as only breaking _one_ habit.  When in reality it is
probably over 100 different habbits.  Take the one which is the worst, and
work with that for it will create the greatest benefit as you change.  IE the
place or circumstances where you have been most apt to smoke.  If you sit
down and make a LIST of where you smoke, and why you smoke in those
locations, keep a diary about where you smoke every day until the day you
quit, it will give you clues.

   Breaking habits takes 8-12 weeks, many bear down for two to three weeks,
and feel they have quit.  They have not dealt with the feelings after that
time as well, then sometime in the future when they experience unusual stress
levels, so it _triggers_ their desire for a smoke.

   At times we have the habit of _reaching_ for anything which someone hands
to us, so when someone who knew we smoked, automaticly offers us a cigarette,
we reach for it.  NOW, just because we do, it is not necessary to smoke that
entire cigarette and it does _not_ mean because we did, we must continue
smoking in the future.  As soon as you realize that you automaticly took one,
put it out, and that act will be a POWERFUL suggestion that will actually
HELP you to quit smoking permanently.  Each day from now until the day you
quit, when you take out a cigarette, look at it, smell it, think of how it
would be to smoke it.... Then, stop and practice the following exercise, and
if you dont feel you need to smoke when finished, put it away or even better,
TEAR IT UP IN LITTLE PIECES..... THAT will be the most powerful suggestion
you can give your brain, that YOU are in control of this behavior.  Do this
daily for as long as you have any cigarettes.... Yes it cost money to do so,
but it costs a LOT more to continue smoking, and this will really help you
more than you would ever dream.....  If you have any questons, just ask.

   To relieve stress, spend 5-10 minute periods of time per day meditating or
reviewing with your eyes closed in a comfortable position, times you were
laughing about something.  Jokes, Comedies on TV, Movies, etc. And you will
be surprised at how much this helps..... it is a command to your subconscious
mind, to make you feel the way you feel in these experiences, when you are
going without a smoke.

   It is NOT difficult to quit smoking, it is much easier than helping
someone to stop using heroin, and I have helped thousands to stop over the
past 44 years.  I have even had users of Cocaine, M.J., Alcohol, and
Cigarettes or other addictive substances, who went cold turkey off ALL
SUBSTANCES at the same time using some of these methods and the tapes which I
have made for them.  It is only difficut when you dont use the power of your
mind which you have had since the day you were born, in the most effective
manner.

   Just take it _one_ day at a time, stop thinking of not smoking for the
rest of your life, and focus on not smoking for the next hour.  Even if you
do smoke sometime, that can be a STEPPING STONE to quiting permanently if you
think of it correctly or use it in that manner.  IE, if after smoking you go
back, sit or lie down in a comfortable position, think about the _feelings_
which caused you to smoke, then think of a time you were laughing and how you
felt then.  Switch back and forth between those memories not less than TEN
times.  Each time you do, the feelings which caused you to smoke that time
will reduce until they no longer have any effect on you.  YOU can get rid of
_each_ subconscious trigger which has been causing you to smoke in the past.
When they are all gone, you will have _no_desire_ to smoke.

   That is what is most important, getting rid of the DESIRE..... even after
the first 8 weeks, there will at times be a desire, but just keep practicing
this method to reduce stress, and they also will disappear.  Just because you
have a feeling or desire to smoke, does _not_ mean you have to do so.  But to
feel better while you do have the desire, you can change these feelings by
using this mental exercise.

   In addition, if you wish to order a set of tapes which will help, you can
order the set of tapes CHANGE THE DESIRE TO SMOKE, and follow the
instructions on them.  Each time you listen to them, it will become easier
and easier to feel good when or where you normally would have felt you just
had to have a cigarette.....

   Two Tape set:  Normally $24.95 plus 2.00 shipping.

   For FidoNet Users...... $17.95 plus 2.00 shipping.

   Mail order to:  DR. Bob Johnstone
                   U.S.P.O. BOX 5122
                   Anaheim, CA 92804

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Msg # 8504   
Date: 24 May 94  06:18:00
From: Bob Johnstone
  To: Jeff
Subj: RE: QUITTING SMOKING
____________________________________________________________________________

 >BJ>  SOLUTION:  Borrow $100, explain that by not smoking you
 >BJ> will save more than $1 per day, and will pay it back at $30
 >BJ> a month.  It would probably be quite easy to get a loan
 >BJ> anywhere for $100 when it is going to be paid in 4 months.
 >
 >BJ>  If you smoke a pack or more a day, what you save makes it
 >BJ> easy to pay.
 >
 > $100 to stop smoking is rediculous. I know somedoy that charged $40
 > to help people stop smoking. He was so successful that he Guarnteed
 > it. But then he didn't have to worry about money, because he was a
 > multimillinaire. Early in his life he was an inventor. He even had
 > patents  on some drugs. He was a brilant man who accomplished alot
 > in his lifetime.
 > Hypnosis works great, but accupunture also works and is chepper than
 > $100 a day. My sister and my father did accupunture and it worked
 > for them. My mom is the only I know who stopped on her own. I don't
 > smoke, so I don't have to worry about it.

 It appears that you misread my message, I said you _save_ more then $1 per
day when you quit smoking, and it will pay for the $100 for the patches.

 Contrary to your opinion, $100 is not rediculous, it cost the average person
over $5000 per year to smoke, including damage to clothing, additional
cleaning costs, et al.  So to any _smoker_ that cost is extremely reasonable.

 In addition, I have been a Professional Hypnotist for over 44 years and an
amatuer prior to that time.  I have taught seminars in Hypnosis
internationally, with over 500 professionals attending many of them.  There
are many _guaranteeing_ to have others quit smoking for $35 or $40 and I have
had to work with HUNDREDS of their clients after they failed, to help them
quit.

 Guaranteeing that a person will quit smoking in ONE session, is lying to the
individual, it just does not happen.  These con men advertise in such a
manner that "if you follow their directions you will quit in one session."
Then, if you dont quit, they say you did not follow their directions, so you
do not get a refund.

 During the past 40 years I have held positions as President, Vice Pres,
Treas, Secretary, in several National Professional Hypnotist organisations,
and worked in the clinic of Reg Sheldrick who was the President of the
Hypnotist Examining Council (In fact he started it.)  IF ANYONE ever became a
MultiMillionaire helping others to quit smoking, I certainly would know of
him.

 There is ONLY one MultiMillionaire who is a Hypnotist, and that is Barry
Konikov, who sells hypnosis tapes thru the Bookstores, etc.  He sells over
200,000 tapes weekly.  His tapes are effective with about 30% of those who
try them, very poor quality in my opinion.  BUT, he is a marketing genius,
with an MA in Advertising, and that is why he became a millionaire, not
because he is such a good hypnotist.

 It takes 12 weeks to break any habit, with or without hypnosis, and it is
100 times more difficult without, which is why so many fail to quite smoking
without help.  In addition when you quit smoking, you are NOT just working to
break ONE habit, but 100 or more of them.  The hypnotist who works to break
that habit as only ONE habit, will ultimately fail, the individual will
generally be back smoking again in one, two, three, weeks or more generally
less than six months.  It is a habit to smoke when talking on the telephone.
It is a different habit to smoke when drinking coffee.  It is still another
habit to smoke when doing other things and many individuals will have up to
250 different habits.  Hypnosis is NOT like waving a "magic wand" and it will
not stop any individual from smoking in ONE session unless they could have
quite anyway - without - using hypnosis.

 The most well implanted hypnotic suggestions last only THREE DAYS, this has
been proven over and over and over.  The effect of ONE or 50 suggestions, can
not possibly over come the effect of MILLIONS OF SUGGESTIONS which the
individual has given themselves.  Each time a person lights up or takes a
puff off a cigarette, that is a powerful suggestion that they will continue
smoking.  TWO SESSIONS per week, for 6-12 weeks depending upon the individual
will get them to the point where they can handle the balance of the problems
on their own.  By having two sessions, as the suggestions begin to wear off,
then they are re-enforced.  Keep re-enforcing them for 6-8 weeks and you
create a NEW HABIT CYCLE that of being a non-smoker.

 Those who advertise that they can help someone quit in ONE session are doing
the field of hypnotherapy a VAST disservice.  They tell a person, if it does
not work, that means you cant be hypnotized or it does not work for you, and
then if that person needs hypnosis for therapy in the future, they wont
believe that it could help them.

 Hypnosis works with EVERYONE, if the person working with you is COMPETENT.
If it fails to help you, it was not you who failed.  That is like going to a
mechanic, and having him tell you "Your car is resistive so I could not fix
it."  If a mechanic told you that, you would think they were stupid and go to
another mechanic.   A therapist is simply a teacher or a mechanic who knows a
lot about the brain and how it works.  If one cant help you they may
specialize in an area that is not appropriate for your problems.  Keep
looking until you find one who specializes in what you wish to deal with, and
you will find what one cant do, another therapist can help you deal with.

 If a Hypnotherapist cant help you, THEY lack the knowledge necessary.

 There are hypnotists who learned to use hypnosis in a few weekends, that are
not competent to do more than stage hypnosis.  There are others who took a
course at UCLA, who also have a Masters in Psychology, others who have a
Ph.D. in Psychology, such individuals can accomplish what appears to be a
miracle.

 You get what you pay for, if your head is only worth $40 try one who says
you can "stop smoking" in ONE session, but also remember, CAN quit smoking
AND you WILL quit smoking have different meanings.  If your head is worth
MORE than $40 to you, find a hypnotist or therapist who is honest with you,
and will not promise results in one session, but allows a reasonable time for
changes to take place.

 The same applies to tapes, Barry Konikov guarantees his tapes will help you
in 30 days, if they dont you can return them.  But when I talked with him he
says few bother to return them because by the time they realize they are not
going to help, the 30 days has past.  I know that the best results from tapes
will come from using them for OVER 90 days, so I put NO LIMIT on my
Guarantee. If a person is NOT satisfied with my tapes, even if they use them
for a YEAR OR MORE and then decide they wish to return them, they get a full
refund.  It gives them a FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME to try them out, and as long as
they wish to return them if they are not satisfied.   There is no time limit.

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