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An Onipa'a Software Production        Vol. 5, No. 9 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::                            TABLE OF CONTENTS                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                            September 15, 2002HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]     Nature's Art Work     Greenwich Art Fair     A Time for Gratitude     Access to Apple II Software     The Tinkerer's CornerA2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS     Problem With Files Downloaded From Library?----------------------[PWL]     Phone Systems Alike From Country to Country?---------------------[PSA]     Memory Lane - the Old 8 Bit Games--------------------------------[MLG]     Joysticks for the Apple II---------------------------------------[JSA]     Any 8 Bit Games That Used a Mouse for Controls?------------------[MFC]     3.5" Disk Drives on the IIe--------------------------------------[TDD]     Installation of Larger Drive on Focus Card - Problem Solved------[ILD]     More Than Adequate Storage for the IIgs--------------------------[MAS]     Moving Files From A2 Floppy Disks to iMac or PowerBook-----------[MFT]     Speculating on Potential Uses of the Emulator, Florence----------[PUF]     Florence Java Requirements---------------------------------------[FJR]     File Type Assignment - Adobe Acrobat Document--------------------[FTA]ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM     To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU]DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS     New to the Apple II - Have Questions-----------------------------[NAT]DELPHI A2Pro DISTILLATIONS     Announcing - Crypto Tool Set-------------------------------------[CTS]THE TINKERER'S CORNER     You are Invited--------------------------------------------------[YAI]     Putting Together a Working CD ROM Drive--------------------------[CDD]LETTERS TO THE EDITOR     No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]     An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]KFEST 2002     KFest Reminder---------------------------------------------------[KFR]     Pictures From KFest 2002-----------------------------------------[PFK]KFEST 2003     KFest 2003 - Plan to be There!-----------------------------------[PBT]EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]                                [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].[OPN]-------------------------------         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |------------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>                             Nature's Art Work                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     The annual parade of colors has begun.  The view from High Above TheRock River is always inspiring.  But especially so from mid Septemberthrough the first part of November, watching from day to day the steadychange of color in the tree leaves.                             Greenwich Art Fair                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     This art fair is held just a block away in mid September.  Theexhibiters have earned the right to participate by submitting photographsof their work to a panel of judges.     Portraits with such detail that to study them carefully is be begin toknow the individual portrayed.  Scenes that look three dimensional eventhough painted on a flat surface.  Beautiful sculptures.     A delightful feast for the eyes.  A chance to talk to the artists.A chance to buy some of the art work.                           A Time for Gratitude                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     An experience such as this reminds us that we should take time out nowand then to be grateful for the efforts of many individuals... those whocreated the Apple II's... those who created the many hardware add-ons...those who created the thousands of software titles.                        Access to Apple II Software                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     The sources for Apple II software include the CD compilations such asthe recent release of the SoftDisk GS titles.CD ROMs featuring Apple II software:     Kohn, Joe                       http://users.FoxValley.net/~joko/     Syndicomm Online Store          http://store.syndicomm.com     Eamon Adventures                Tom Zuchowski <tzuchow@attglobal.net>                           The Tinkerer's Corner                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     This month we feature putting together a CD ROM drive for your IIgs soyou can begin using the many CD's of software that are available.[EOA]ASCII ART BEGINS_________  _                     _                                      _|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|                                                            | |                                                            | |                                                            |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA]---------------------------------------------------DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com  |                                  (A2Central.com) |---------------------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[PWL]PROBLEM WITH FILES DOWNLOADED FROM LIBRARY?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I'm not sure where to put a message asking about problems with the Library,but here goes...I was downloading some of the GEnie RTC transcripts to read, and some areShrinkIt packed (.BXY). No problem, I'll use Shrink II to open them.Doesn't work. Go to Bernie and try with ShrinkIt -- get a $81 filecorrupted error.Could someone else try one of these BXY files and tell me if _I'm_ the onewho is messing up, or if the files are actually corrupted. Specifically,I was trying the file "gus.8.paug.bxy", and "rtc,orca2.bxy".Also, I remember the BQY suffix, but can't remember what program is neededto unpack it. ShrinkIt doesn't seem to recognize it (at least as a Shrunkfile).Thanks,Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 31)>>>>>"""""Using my Mac, I just verified that both of those files are fine. Idownloaded them via ftp with Transmit, moved them over to Bernie, andunpacked them with GSHK. I was also able to unpack them with Shrink II.Usually when people ask about corrupted files it turns out to be that theywere not getting an 8-bit ftp transfer. But if you're using an ftp clienton a Mac, as opposed to a Unix command-line client, that shouldn't be aproblem.BQY files are older "Squeezed" archives created by BLU. GSHK can handlethem, as long as the files are not corrupted of course.Tony Ward, A2 Librarian(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 34)>>>>>"""""Thanks for all who checked those RTC BXY files. It appears that the problemI was having had to do with my FTP program (Transmit) being set to "ASCII"mode, not Binary mode, when I did the download. I don't know enough aboutwhy there is a difference (a file should be just a file, as far as I'mconcerned), but when I unchecked the ASCII setting, and downloaded the fileagain, it was able to be unpacked.Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 36)>>>>>""""">> a file should be just a file, as far as I'm concerned <<The problem is that files often *aren't* files when it comes to crossplatform differences. The benefit of ASCII mode transfers is that ftp fixesthe line endings for text files: Apple=<CR>, Unix=<LF>, Windows=<CR><LF>.I believe many modern ftp clients are moving towards making BINARY mode thedefault, which is probably more useful for most people. (And *really* smartprograms try to decide on the file type themselves! ASCII text is prettyeasy to detect.)Peter               peterw@syndicomm.comPalm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager(PETERW, Cat 2, Top 9, Msg 37)[EOA][PSA]PHONE SYSTEMS ALIKE FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY?""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I was curious about phone systems.  Are phone systems in Japan(or anywhereelse) for instance, pretty much the same as in the U.S.  In other words,could you use the same modem in another country that you could use in yourown?  Just curious.Thanks,Dain(A2.DAIN, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""Technically, probably. Legally, maybe not. Some countries have regulationsthat our modems do not meet. For instance, repeat dialing is forbidden insome countries, and modems there don't support the feature. Of course, mostof us do that with software, but that would still be illegal in somecountries. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Sat  7 Sep 02  12:48:00 am cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2003, July 22-27, 2003 - 319 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 13)>>>>>"""""Carl has described it exactly. A 56k modem will work in any country, andyou can take your PowerBook with you when you go.In the early days of 300 baud, for those that remember, there weredifferences in the tones used, but now they have been harmonized.Repeat dialing has to be controlled in the UK. You can dial the same numberagain at once, but thereafter, an increasing interval between dialing mustbe applied.As 240 volts power is used in most other countries, modems have to conformto strict safety regulations so they cannot send 240 volts down the phoneline. This means that in theory, all modems in the UK must be approvedbefore they are used. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 7 Sep 2002 - 318 days till KFest '03 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b8 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 2, Top 12, Msg 14)[EOA][MLG]MEMORY LANE - THE OLD 8 BIT GAMES"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Just a stroll down memory lane.  The other day I pulled out some of my5 1/4" floppies and started playing some old games I used to play on the][e.  I had fun, but I realized that I am not nearly as good at ShortCircuit and Hard Hat Mack as I used to be.  For some reason though, I amjust as good today at Spy's Demise as I was back then:)With all the whizbang flashy graphics of today's 128bit graphics chips andGigaflop computing power...it amazes one to think how far we've come, andto realize that these old games are just as fun today as they were then.Those programmers that pulled off what they did with that 8-bit chip weresimply amazing.Dain Neater(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 54)>>>>>""""">> Those programmers that pulled off what they did with that 8-bit chipwere simply amazing. <<Not to mention the 32K or so of RAM, and the 140K of storage space, and the1 MHz CPU speed. . . really just absolutely amazing.RyanChief Sysop and Head Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 55)>>>>>"""""One of my favorite games was Miner 2049er, both part 1 and 2.  I playedthose on my ][ Plus until the original disks were dead :)Ryan(RSUENAGA, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 57)>>>>>"""""Ultima, Lode Runner, Apple Panic, SSI Baseball, Choplifter, CastleWolfenstein, ..... (the list goes on and on)Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 59)>>>>>"""""Miner 2049er was a great game.  Kind of in the same genre as Lode Runnerand the early Mario games.  Run around and jump from level to level doingstuff.:)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 61)>>>>>"""""It also sounds a lot like Hard Hat Mack:)  I had lots of fun with these8 bitters:)Dain(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 63)>>>>>"""""Seriously though, a lot of those games were very similar, but they were alot of fun, too.  Lode Runner was great, although I had more fun with thelevel designer than playing the game itself. :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 65)>>>>>"""""Yeah, the Lode Runner Level editor was one of the coolest features ever.I would think it was one of the first games that shipped with a leveleditor.Cool stuff.Dain(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 66)[EOA][JSA]JOYSTICKS FOR THE Apple II""""""""""""""""""""""""""I recently was given an Apple II joystick that I really like.  It is aCH Products (same brand as my Thrustmaster Pro that I use for X-Plane)stick with a two buttons in the upper left hand corner and one actually onthe stick.  I really like this stick.  Were there any others that werebetter?  Of course you are talking to the guy who at one point playedJoystick games with paddles, because that was all he had:).I also had a stick that could be used on both the PC and II.  It's in a boxsomewhere and I have no clue what it actually is...I think maybe a Kraft.Dain Neater(A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 6)>>>>>"""""Dain,I have three of that model CH Products joystick, one on each of my Apples(IIe, GS ROM 1, GS ROM 3), as well as one that I installed on my Dad'smachine.  I tried one or two other brands long ago but, I like this one thebest!                                 MT Steve(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 7)>>>>>"""""I have a Mach IV, which can serve as either a mouse (attached to a IIc/IIcPlus mouse port or a IIe mouse card) or a joystick (attached to the sameplace on a IIc/IIc Plus or a IIe or IIgs nine pin joystick port).  I like areal mouse better, but it's amazing how huge and clunky the original MouseII (the same, basically, as the Mac through Plus and Lisa mouse) feelsnowadays.RyanChief Sysop and Head Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 10)>>>>>"""""Kraft also made a "mousestick" that may have actually been called theMouseStick.  I vaguely remember this one.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 11)>>>>>"""""Yes, that's what it was called.  I remember it.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 3, Msg 12)[EOA][MFC]ANY 8 BIT GAMES THAT USED A MOUSE FOR CONTROLS?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I know mice were used in games on the Apple IIgs, but were there every anyinstances of the 8 bit machines using a mouse for controls in a game?I can't think of any, and the number of people with mice on those oldermachines was prohibitive to the developers.  Not to mention the fact thatto you had to push that IIe mouse button down about 5 inches for a click.(okay, maybe that was an exaggeration:)Dain Neater(A2.DAIN, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""I'm not much of a gamer, but I can't remember any games where mice weresubstitutes for joysticks.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""Marble Madness -- mouse control was a lot better than joystick.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 3)>>>>>"""""I believe some of those softdisk 8 bit games would support a mouse.  Didn'twe show than the solitaire would use a mouse (in my case a trackball)?I wasn't using a joystick though that might have worked too.I think some the other arcade type games could use a mouse but I'm notsure.Bruce(BBAKER, Cat 17, Top 21, Msg 4)[EOA][TDD]3.5" DISK DRIVES ON THE IIe"""""""""""""""""""""""""""Re:  3.5" disk drives for Apple IIeSomeone asked me whether they could read & write 3.5" floppies with anApple IIe.  A friend told me that one could use the same 3.5" floppy drivesfor the IIe as I user for my Apple IIgs, but that I had to use it with acontroller like the UDC.  The model no. on the bottom of my Apple 3.5" diskdrive is A9M0106.  I am unacquainted with any such controller.  Does onejust get a UDC controller and plug it in between the disk drive and theApple IIe?  How does this work and where could one acquire a controller andany necessary cables?  Does anyone have a different solution?                                Jim O'Reilly(JOREILLY, Cat 17, Top 29, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""Jim,An Apple disk drive model A9M0106 is an Apple 3.5 Disk Drive.  In order forthis drive to be usable on an Apple IIe you would need a SuperdriveController.  Last I heard Superdrive cards were available from ShreveSystems for $59.  They can be contacted at 1-800-227-3971.Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 17, Top 29, Msg 13)[EOA][ILD]INSTALLATION OF LARGER DRIVE ON FOCUS CARD - PROBLEM SOLVED"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Installed larger drive on Focus Card (used).  Focus utilities indicatedthat "You must format (low level format) this drive before doing anythingelse."----Apple Computer Inc.Internal HDD Firmware (C)1995750MB 2.5 inch AT 17mmIBM OEM LES E33252 SModel : DPRA-20810P/N   : 85G3645   FRU : 39H2206MLC   : E15644----After starting the low level format this message comes up:An error has occurred during the format of you FocusDrive.           (Error: #8080, Track 0, Head 0)      (Continue)                      (Cancel)If you choose (Continue) this message comes up:Currently formatting;Head #0, Cylinder #0 Final Cylinder #0It then sits there for hours without making any progress.Any way around this?Or is this drive simply not going to work with the Focus card?Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>   Editor, _The Lamp!_published monthly at:   http://lamp.a2central.com/(LYLE, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 5)>>>>>"""""A Google search for the drive in question revealed that the drive was setup as a "slave".  Adding a jumper between two pins converts it to a"master".The 750mb drive is now set up with six 32mb ProDOS partitions and one largeHFS partition.Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>   Editor, _The Lamp!_published monthly at:   http://lamp.a2central.com/(LYLE, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 8)>>>>>"""""A long time ago at KFest, someone had a problem with a hard drive on aFocus card that related to the jumper being set to slave.So I guess that the moral of the story is that when using a Focus, set thedrive to master :)Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 10)[EOA][MAS]MORE THAN ADEQUATE STORAGE FOR THE IIgs"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I recently took the 6 GB drive that came built into my PowerBook G3 andinstalled it in my Focus Drive because the drive that came preinstalled inthe card started doing weird stuff.  Works like a charm.  Don't recall thebrand though.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 6)>>>>>"""""So, you've unseated Dain as having the largest known Focus Drive incaptivity?:)Maybe we should run a contest. . .RyanChief Sysop and Head Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 11)>>>>>"""""I've been told that having 4GB hooked up to a IIgs is ludicrous.  Ofcourse, that would just mean that Sheppy is 2GBs more ludicrous than I.DainSlowly handing over the Ludicrous Crown to King Sheppy.(A2.DAIN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""I'm extremely ludicrous.  Having multiple 2 GB HFS partitions on your GS isstupid. :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 13)>>>>>"""""Six gigs of storage on a GS is pretty excessive.  I don't think there ismuch of a way to do it without some large HFS partitions.  While I'm notmuch of a fan of HFS on the IIgs, the alternative is (doing some math). . .187 ProDOS partitions? :)RyanChief Sysop and Head Geek(A2.RYAN, Cat 19, Top 12, Msg 14)[EOA][MFT]MOVING FILES FROM A2 FLOPPY DISKS TO iMac or PowerBook""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""... actually I wanted to ask questions about LanceGS, as I _really_ need away to get files off of Apple II floppy disks into my iMac or PowerBook.I _think_ the LanceGS card may be helpful, but I've read the FAQ and itsays that I cannot use it with AppleTalk, that an FTP program is needed tomove files.Someone in a Chat a while ago suggested that it would be less expensive toget an old Mac, LocalTalk the IIGS to the Mac, and then Ethernet the Mac tomy home network.My PRIMARY need is to get files off of Apple II disks and onto the Mac, andalso to be able to move files from the Mac (Bernie) onto the IIGS. I reallydon't have a need to access the Net from the IIGS.I want the least expensive option I can get. If, for example, there is someoption that would work with a mass storage device, that would also beacceptable.I've tried to put the SCSI drive I use on the IIGS on a SCSI<-->USBconverter, and the Mac does not see it. I believe I had problems beforewith the Mac recognizing RamFAST partitioning.Any help would be gratefully accepted.Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 55)>>>>>"""""My recommendation would be to get a cheap older Mac that has both a serialport and an Ethernet port, so that you can do LocalTalk between the GS andthe Mac, and then again to other machines.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 56)>>>>>"""""I agree with Sheppy.  The LANceGS card is great for TCP/IP applications,but if you want to move files, a Mac with both LocalTalk and ethernet ports(you could likely get one at a local thrift store or off someone's garageshelf for free or close to it) running LocalTalk Bridge software (free)would be the cheapest way to go.Ryan(RSUENAGA, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 57)>>>>>"""""I was thinking that the Mac/LocalTalk/Ethernet option might be the leastexpensive.Now, I still have an Ethernet card that worked in the Performa 5215 we gotrid of a year or more ago (yeah, a stupid idea now in retrospect). Anyoneknow what other Macs have the same port for a card as the 5215 had?Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 58)>>>>>"""""I found an old Mac LC 475 at the kid's school that was not being used, andthey were more than happy to give it to me. I put my Ethernet card (Asante)in it, but have not yet been able to get it to work. I think I'll need toborrow a CD-ROM drive from them also, so I can re-install the Mac OS 7.6.1that is on it.IIGS file-sharing connectivity is getting closer...Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 62)>>>>>"""""Steve,Let's move the LocalTalk discussion to cat 10, topic 6. :)(RSUENAGA, Cat 27, Top 2, Msg 63)>>>>>"""""Make sure to download LocalTalk Bridge from Apple's FTP site too :)Ryan(RSUENAGA, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 31)>>>>>"""""I found the LocalTalk bridge software. I read the "ReadMe" file included.This allows me to have a connection with BOTH a LocalTalk AND an Ethernetnetwork?Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 32)>>>>>"""""Right.  It lets your Mac running LTB serve as a bridge between a LocalTalknetwork and an EtherTalk network, so the machines on each side can see eachother.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 33)>>>>>"""""Okay.I've got the Mac LC 475 with LocalTalk bridge working, and the IIGS cansend files to that computer, and from there I can send them to my OS XiMac.The goofy thing is that I cannot "see" the iMac from the LC 475. To connect(I've got OS 8.1 loaded there) I have to type the IP address of the OX XiMac. The IIGS cannot "see" anything except the LC 475.The LocalTalk bridge is activated on the LC 475. It doesn't specify WHICHserial port is being used for LocalTalk, but it wouldn't work unless I hadit plugged into the Printer port on the LC 475.I'm using the Printer port on the IIGS, and so have slot 1 set to"AppleTalk" (since my RamFAST is in slot 7).This works, but did you say it should be possible to "see" the iMac fromthe IIGS? Or does OS X make that more difficult?Getting there... :-)Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 35)>>>>>"""""Hi Steven,If you want the GS to see everything on the ethernet side of the 475,you'll need to go to the 475 and make sure the AppleTalk network there isset to the ethernet network.Then both your 475 and the GS should see the iMac.Hope that helps!KirkA2 RTC Manager(A2.KIRK, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 37)>>>>>"""""The Saga Continues...I've turned on AppleTalk via the NetInfo Manager in OS X (although theSharePoints program that the link Sheppy mentioned in a previous message(http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/osx.html) would have done it moreeasily), and now the IIGS can "see" the OS X Mac. However, it does notallow me to login as anything other than a guest. I was able to see thefolders that I shared using SharePoint, and although I was able to copy afile from the OS X Mac to the IIGS, an attempt to copy files from the IIGSto the Mac resulted in an error message, probably because it is logged ononly as a guest.We're getting there; any suggestions for better IIGS --> Mac file copying?I can always copy files in two steps, from the IIGS --> Mac LC --> iMac ifthe IIGS simply cannot logon in any fashion other than as a guest.Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historyhttp://apple2history.org(A2HISTORY, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 38)>>>>>"""""Give "guest" privileges to write to the iMac drive. (This is a Bad Thingunless you are sitting behind a firewall, but okay to do just while you areworking on it.)Gary(HINDMOST, Cat 10, Top 6, Msg 39)[EOA][PUF]SPECULATING ON POTENTIAL USES OF THE EMULATOR, FLORENCE"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Richard Bennnet-Forrest unveiled Florence, his Java-based Apple IIgsemulator at KansasFest 2002 in a videotaped presentation.Florence is still in its infancy, but the web page can be found off ofhttp://www.emulate.gs/This idea has lots of potential, including the ability to run an Apple IIgson almost any device, including cell phones and refrigerators. :)RyanChief Sysop(A2.RYAN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""I especially see value for this when Palm OS devices with ARM processorsand Java become available.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""I really like this idea.  Regardless of what the speed of Java is.  Thingscan only improve:)I think the TCP/IP functionality is the part that I long to see the most.Woohoo:)Dain Neater(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 3)>>>>>"""""I had totally forgotten about Palm OS Java devices (and as the former chiefsysop of the Palm Forum, I hang my head in shame).I would think that Pocket PC devices would hold similar usefulness,although I tend to think the whole Pocket PC platform is ahead of its time.I'm not sure what other Java using devices besides these, cellular phones,and desktop and laptop computers there are out there right now, but I'dlike to know :)Ryan(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 4)>>>>>""""">> I would think that Pocket PC devices would hold similar usefulness,although I tend to think the whole Pocket PC platform is ahead of its time.Ahead?  It's running Windows, not Futuristic Super OS. :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 5)>>>>>"""""By "ahead of its time", I mean that the hardware that can sufficiently runsuch an albatross in a small package is not yet here.Maybe in five years. . .Ryan(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 6)>>>>>"""""The PocketPC platform runs a ~200mhz strong arm, just like the Newtons,only I think that the Newton OS, was quite a bit smaller.  It would be coolto have a Pocket IIGS regardless of what it is running on:)Dain(A2.DAIN, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 7)>>>>>"""""I am in the market for a better cellular phone that has Java capabilityspecifically for Florence.RyanChief Sysop and Head Geek(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 8)>>>>>"""""It is my understanding that cell phones will only use the J2EE specs forJava which is essentially a trimmed-down version of Java.  You will also tomake sure the cell phone has lots of RAM to run Java code, especiallysomething as intensive as a GS emulator.I think it may be a few years before there is a portable device to be runFlorence.  But, I'll be pleasant surprised if there is hardware availabletoday and is moderately priced.Geoff(GEOFF, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 9)>>>>>"""""How much memory, I wonder, would be needed?I'm thinking a Palm OS 5 device with Java (when it's available, I have noidea when that will be, I read the same press releases as everyone else :)and 16 MB of memory might be able to do it.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 10)>>>>>"""""I would think a 16 meg Java device would have enough memory for a nice IIgsemulation, but disk space would be tight.Of course, I'm also someone who would love to see a IIe emulator on thePalm.Ryan(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 11)[EOA][FJR]FLORENCE JAVA REQUIREMENTS""""""""""""""""""""""""""Richard,Could you expound a little more on the Florence Java requirements?  I'msemi-seriously looking into cellular phones.  I could wait for a long timeto buy, though, if they're not yet up to snuff.RyanChief Sysop and Head Geek(RSUENAGA, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 20)>>>>>"""""Well, I'm quite embarrassed to say that I'm not really sure what devicesand configurations would run Florence.I wrote it for JRE 1.3 if that helps, so anything from JSE 1.3 up is fine(Java Standard Edition 1.3, Java 2 Enterprise Edition 1.3, Java StandardEdition 1.4 etc.)A bit of background perhaps, because Sun has way too many conflictingacronyms to remember, unless you work with this stuff on a daily basis.JRE stands for Java Runtime Environment. This includes the JVM (JavaVirtual Machine) which runs the core language syntax (for/next loops,variable management etc.), plus a whole heap of Java code (libraries). Mostnew Java versions don't change the JVM, which means the core languagepretty much stays the same. What each version does add, is more and moreJava code that makes complex programming easier.This is a good thing, because it means the 10 lines of code you had towrite for the previous version, comes down to only a few lines of code inthe new version.Florence doesn't use anything complex within Java, just the basic languagesyntax and a few graphics routines. Again, because I haven't tuned it forperformance, it's very compatible across platforms and JRE versions,because it doesn't really use much outside the basic JVM.Therefore, if a device did come out that didn't support the full 1.3.1,then it would more than likely still work, and if not, shouldn't be toomuch of a change to get Florence to get it to work (i.e. I'd just have towrite those 10 lines instead of 1 :-).The only real concern I would have for small device is speed. As myupcoming Juiced.GS article explains (blatant plug!), it is slow on thefastest Macs, let alone on a handheld. But you can read up on that when themagazine comes out. :-)What I am really waiting for is the Java Games Platform, or whatever thelatest acronym is. This is supposed to be super fast, and tuned forgraphics performance. The reason Florence is so slow, is mainly because ofJava's graphics libraries. They're built to support multiple platforms, sothey're not entirely high performance technology!Regards, Richard(RICHARDB, Cat 29, Top 33, Msg 21)[EOA][FTA]FILE TYPE ASSIGNMENT - Adobe Acrobat DOCUMENT"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""For future reference:Major Category==============Filetype          Category--------          --------$54               Desktop PublishingSpecific Assignment===================Filetype          Auxiliary Type          Finder Name--------          --------------          -----------$54               $0080                   Adobe Acrobat documentRyan(A2.RYAN, Cat 60, Top 3, Msg 28)[EOA]------------------------------------      ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[TSU]TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or tosign up!(Logon message)[EOA]------------------------------------      DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[NAT]NEW TO THE Apple II - HAVE QUESTIONS""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Hi,I am new to the Apple community. I am a classic computer and video gamecollector. Back in the early 80's I always wanted an Apple IIe. That wasthe first system I was taught on in Junior Highschool. I eventually got aCommodore 64 and never entered the world of the Apple II's. :( Today I justwon an Apple IIgs ROM03 system and I'm very anxious to start using it onceit arrives. I have some questions and hope some of you might be able toanswer them.1. I have many Apple II images on my PC network. I want to be able totransfer those images back to Apple IIgs floppies. I'm currently lookingfor the best way to accomplish this.I've read about the PC Transporter and the Bluedisk card, but recently Istumbled upon an item called a Super Disk. Can anyone out there tell me:1a. What do I need to run this Super Disk on a IIgs ROM 03 1 MEG RAM? Do Ineed some sort of add-on card and then a Super Disk? Is there any specialtype I need?1b. I was a bit confused with the PC Transporter. I read briefly in onelocation that it put a full Apple IIe in your PC, but on another site itseems that the Transporter is for the IIs to run MFM Floppies.Either way can anyone tell me the most efficient way to transfer the appleimages from a PC back to a IIgs readable floppy? Also, I know about thenull modem cable concept, but that won't work as I don't have a PC in thesame room as my classic systems.2. SCSI Hard Drives. Is there any specific type of SCSI hard drives I needto get to install on my IIgs? Also, do I need special brackets to mount itinside the unit or do external SCSI Hard Drives only work with a IIgs?2a. Is there a hard card that plugs into any of the IIgs slots? I had anold hard card for my first PC and was curious to know if there may be aSCSI hard card for the IIgs?3. Is there a nice laser printer that anyone can recommend that will workwith the IIgs?4. Is there any preferable joystick to get to use with IIgs games?Well, I guess that is all for now. I hope someone here can answer some ofmy questions. :)My email address is discmaster1@soznet.netThanks(DISCMASTER1, 3612.1, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>""""">> I am new to the Apple community. <<Welcome! Incidentally you should know there's not much Apple II activityremaining here on Delphi. You can find most of us either on Usenet'scomp.sys.apple2 newsgroup (free) or Syndicomm's A2Central forum (payservice). In the meantime, you can still find some help here, though youmay find it sparse.>> I am a classic computer and video game collector. <<I've mostly collected vintage Apple systems, though in the last few years Istarted collecting other computers and game consoles too (heh, as a matterof fact, just this afternoon I picked up a ColecoVision and Intellivisionby chance).>> Back in the early 80's I always wanted an Apple IIe. That was the firstsystem I was taught on in Junior Highschool. I eventually got a Commodore64 and never entered the world of the Apple II's. :( <<Funny, I had mostly the same start but with the opposite outcome. I endedup with an Apple II Plus just before junior high school and missed out onthe Commodore 64 (I don't _at all_ regret the path I took starting out withthe Apple II, but I recently sought out a working C64 and meaning toexplore what I missed out on).>> Today I just won an Apple IIgs ROM03 system and I'm very anxious tostart using it once it arrives. I have some questions and hope some of youmight be able to answer them. <<You should know while the IIgs is backwards compatible with the 8-bitApple II in emulation-mode (which works quite transparently as you'll soonsee) it has a native side that makes it very similar to the Amiga. Thatreminds me of another machine I'd like to go back and explore, I have someA500's and 2000's in various states sitting around here but missing a pieceor two to get them running. Anyhow, I'm seem to be digressing from yourquestions, so....>> A) What do I need to run this Super Disk on a IIgs ROM 03 1 MEG RAM? DoI need some sort of add-on card and then a Super Disk? Is there any specialtype I need? <<You must mean the "SuperDrive" option. It's merely an external 1.44MBfloppy drive setup that can handle both GCR (Apple) and MFM (DOS/Windows)formatted 3.5 diskettes.You can use an official Apple SuperDrive or some of the third partycompatibles out there (i.e. Applied Engineering, AMR). A popular option isto take the standard Apple 3.5 drive and swap the 800K mechanism with a1.44MB one pulled from an old Macintosh--it's a pretty trivial upgraderequiring only a screwdriver really. I have two "SuperDrives" which aremerely standard Apple 3.5 drives I self-upgraded.The catch is, yes, you'll need an add-on card so the IIgs can recognize itas a high-density drive and read/write IBM floppies. The card is called the"Apple II 3.5 Disk Controller Card". They're not very common but ShervesSystems was selling them not too long ago.>> B) I was a bit confused with the PC Transporter. I read briefly in onelocation that it put a full Apple IIe in your PC, but on another site itseems that the Transporter is for the IIs to run MFM Floppies.It's neither exactly. It's a 50-pin slot card that plugs into the Apple II(II Plus, IIe and IIgs) and hardware emulates an IBM XT class PC.Specifically a fast 8086-compatible (NEC V30) with 640K, CGA and supportfor PC-MFM drives--or even allow a standard Apple 800K drive to read/write720K MFM floppies in IBM mode if attached to the PC-Transporter. It'll alsowork with the SuperDrive if you have that special controller card, but atthat point you're better off using GS/OS's built-in MSDOS FST (File SystemTranslator; an FST lets the IIgs's OS see foreign formatted devices as ifthey were Apple formatted). >> Either way can anyone tell me the most efficient way to transfer theapple images from a PC back to a IIgs readable floppy? Also, I know aboutthe null modem cable concept, but that won't work as I don't have a PC inthe same room as my classic systems. <<I personally prefer the SuperDrive option. I just use my PIII to downloaddisk-images or files onto floppy, then pop the disk into my GS and it readsit just like that. It's a god-send considering I no longer have my IIgsconnected to the Internet.I had only used a null-modem hook up for transferring files larger than1.4M (it works nicely actually since the GS can handle 57.6K through theserial port) though these days I use an IOmega Zip disk (I have an externalZip on the GS, and an internal on a P133 in another room). Ethernet isanother option as of recently, but the card is rather expensive.Oh, if you have a Macintosh in your collection, you can use that as abridge between a IIgs and PC for floppy transfers (MSDOS->HFS->ProDOS).Older Macintosh machines can read 1.44MB MSDOS and write to 800K ProDOSdisks. They can also do AppleTalk networking with the IIgs (i.e.PC/Ethernet->Mac/Ethernet-Mac/AppleTalk->GS/AppleTalk)>> 2. SCSI Hard Drives. Is there any specific type of SCSI hard drives Ineed to get to install on my IIgs? <<No, most SCSI drives should work fine (I'd just recommend at least a 4500RPM drive).What you do need to seek out specifically is an Apple II SCSI-based slotcard. Apple made two (one DMA, one non-DMA) and even more popular is the"RamFAST SCSI" controller. Unfortunately these cards are in high demandamong users so it may be pricey to get a hold of one.>> Also, do I need special brackets to mount it inside the unit or doexternal SCSI Hard Drives only work with a IIgs? <<External SCSI drives have always been more common for the IIgs and whatyou'd be likely to use. There WERE internal drive setups though, in factthe IIgs sitting beside me has a 240MB drive mounted internally using aproduct called the Pegasus (another rarity). I've been meaning to replacethe mechanism with a 1.2GB since the older 240 drive seems to be failingand a bit small for my own needs.>> 2a. Is there a hard card that plugs into any of the IIgs slots? I hadan old hard card for my first PC and was curious to know if <<Yep. There are two IDE-based HardCards, one sold in the US (Alltech) andthe other sold in Europe (SHH Systemes). I believe the Alltech FocusHardCard is more affordable, have a look at: www.allelec.com>> there may be a SCSI hard card for the IIgs? <<No, but there was the RoadRunner card. It let you mount a 3.5 SCSI drive ona slot card that then connected to a standard SCSI controller (Apple orRamFAST) in an adjacent slot. It was the same concept as using an externalSCSI drive, except the drive drew its power from the GS's powersupply andlived inside the case. A sort of pseudo HardCard I suppose.>> 3. Is there a nice laser printer that anyone can recommend that willwork with the IIgs? <<Several work will work (a parallel card may be required if it doesn'tsupport serial) though you'd definitely want a software driver packagecalled "Harmonie". A couple of years back I successfully had the GSprinting off my brother's Hewlett Packard LaserJet 5L printer. The IIgsalso supports TrueType font technology with a package called "Pointless".I believe Shareware Solutions II carries both pieces of software.>> 4. Is there any preferable joystick to get to use with IIgs games? <<It's a matter of choice. My favorite is the CH Products Mach III joystick.I have several others (e.g. Epyx, Gravis, Apple) and I can't say I everliked those much. The official Apple-brand joystick is quite awful in manyrespects btw, avoid it if possible.Speaking of games, you may want to visit the Apple IIGS Gaming MemoryFairway (http://www.inwards.com/~fairway). As usual, I should state mydisclaimer that I feel the site is valuable as an Apple IIgs museum(memorabilia, screen shots, reviews, articles) rather than a softwarearchive site. I've spent a good number of hours just reading reviews andgetting nostalgic looking at scanned GS advertisements. :)If you're new to the IIgs and wondering what the machine was all about,I can't think of anything more perfect to read than Alex Lee's commentaryon the IIgs: http://www.inwards.com/~fairway/intro.htmlAnother two must-visit sites as far as the IIgs is concerned btw:www.a2central.comwww.ninjaforce.com>> Well, I guess that is all for now. I hope someone here can answer someof my questions. :) <<Let me know if you have any more... :)Mitchell Spectora_specto@alcor.concordia.ca(SPECTOR1, 3612.3, Delphi A2 web side)[EOA]------------------------------------   DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2Pro |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[CTS]ANNOUNCING - CRYPTO TOOL SET""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Announcing - Crypto tool set version 1.0 System Tool 129.Now available from my website:http://home.ozonline.com.au/klajr/apple/crypto.htmlThe Vision:A tool set that provides a library of encryption and decryption functionsusing a variety of algorithms.Version 1.0 desCipher - DES encryption and decryptionThe DES cipher routines were implemented by Robert V. Medshaw.desAddParity - adds parity bits to a 56-bit keyThe source code for the tool set has been released under the GNU LesserGeneral Public License so that others can contribute to the development ofthe tool set. The source code for the tool set has been made available inCVS as part of the Marinetti Open Source Project.The DES cipher routines have not been placed in CVS for two reasons:1) as they are Copyright 1979 BYTE Magazine2) US Government Export restrictions may applyDownloads available:* Apple IIgs Crypto tool set & programmer documentation* Apple IIgs Crypto tool set with complete source code including DES cipher  routines (Merlin assembler)* Apple II/e/c version of DES cipher routines (Merlin assembler)(ROUGHANA, 418.2, Delphi A2Pro web side)[EOA][TTC]-------------------------------             THE TINKERER'S CORNER |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[YAI]YOU ARE INVITED"""""""""""""""You are invited to submit your favorite Tinkerer's Project for the Apple IIcomputers.Send your write up or idea to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considersunsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.[EOA][CDD]Putting Together a Working CD ROM Drive~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~By Lyle SyversonA lot of software for the Apple II is now available on CD ROM.  One way toget this software to your computer is to equip your IIgs with a CD ROMdrive.This project is made easier by the fact that there really is a lot ofstandardization of the necessary connections among the various SCSI drivesand the enclosures.  The power connectors and the SCSI cable connectors aredesigned so the can only be connected one way.What You Will Need''''''''''''''''''1. An enclosure (case).  The ideal one has a built in power supply andcooling fan.  The front of the CD ROM mechanism will need to be accessibleto the outside of the case.  Depending on the enclosure available, thismight require some ingenuity.  The old SyQuest 44 and 88 removable mediadrives are an excellent source of an enclosure for this project.  After theSyQuest mechanism has been removed the CD ROM mechanism can be neatlymounted flush with the front of the case.2. The CD ROM drive mechanism.  These can be found in some of the older,unwanted Mac computers.3. SCSI cables.  One to connect the SCSI card in your computer to theconnector on the enclosure.  Another one to connect the first case to thesecond case if you plan to have more than one drive connected at the sametime.4. A terminator might be necessary if there is no provision for terminationon the drive itself.5. A SCSI card.Where to Get What You Need''''''''''''''''''''''''''1. Thrift stores.2. Garage sales.3. Usenet... comp.sys.apple2.marketplace4. A2 on Syndicomm5. LEM-Swap list <http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html>6. Alltech Electronics <http://www.allelec.com/indexa2.html">8. Other World Computer <http://www.macsales.com/">9. Mac-Res-Q <http:/www.macresq.com> or call 1-888-447-3728Installing the Drive in the Enclosure''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''1. Open the case.2. Disconnect and remove the old drive.  Make notes of connections for the   SCSI id control and the activity light.3. Mount the new drive securely within the case.4. Connect the power cable and the SCSI cable.  The connectors are built so   can they only be connected one way.5. Connect the SCSI id system if it will fit.  Otherwise set the SCSI id of   the drive using jumpers.  (See the section on SCSI id).6. Connect the activity light.  (The drive will work just fine even if you   can not make this connection).7. Close the case.Using the 'New' CD ROM Drive''''''''''''''''''''''''''''1. Using your System 6.01 installation disks...    a. Install the CD ROM Driver.    b. Install the HFS FST.    c. Patch the HFS FST.   (Downloaded link:)       http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/System/FSTs/PATCHHFS.SHK2. Connect the drive to the SCSI card using the appropriate cable.3. Boot your IIgs... your CD ROM drive is ready to use.Rules For the SCSI Chain''''''''''''''''''''''''1. The chain must have term power.     a. The RamFast SCSI card can provide term power by setting a switch.     b. The Apple HS and Rev.C SCSI cards do not supply term power but can        be modified to do so.             To modify the Apple SCSI cards to provide term power see:                  http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Docs/hispeed.gif                  http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Docs/revc.gif     c. Some drives supply term power to the SCSI chain.2. Termination... The device (hard drive, CD ROM drive, etc.) at each end   of the chain must be terminated.     a. The RamFast and Apple HS SCSI cards are terminated.     b. The Apple Rev.C card is not terminated.  It can be terminated by        placing a 'pass through' terminator between the card and the first        SCSI device.     c. Some drives are terminated internally.  Some drives control        internal termination with a jumper.  Some drives have a switch        outside the case to turn termination on or off.  A drive that is        not terminated internally can be terminated externally by        installing a terminator on one of the SCSI connectors on the        outside of the case.3. NOTE... term power and termination are two different things.  Each must   be dealt with separately according to the appropriate rule.4. Each device in the chain must have a unique SCSI id.  SCSI id's range   from 0 through 7.     a. When using the Apple HS and Rev.C SCSI cards id 7 is reserved for        the use of the card.     b. The RamFast SCSI card operates without a SCSI id.5. Setting the SCSI id of a hard drive or CD ROM drive.     a. Most enclosures (cases) have a device outside the case to set the        SCSI id of the drive.  If you are installing a drive in a new or        used case you might or might not be able to properly connect the        drive to the external id switch.     b. If you can not properly connect the drive to this switch you can        control the SCSI id of the drive using jumpers.  You can often find        out how to do this for a given drive by visiting the web site of        the manufacturer of that drive.             See: "Controlling the SCSI ID of Hard Drive" in TLMP0201             At: http://lamp.a2central.com/Example SCSI Chain''''''''''''''''''Apple HS SCSI card    SCSI id=7   TerminatedSCSI cableCD ROM drive          SCSI id=0   Not terminatedSCSI cableHard drive            SCSI id=6External terminator               Terminates the hard drive[EOA]------------------------------------             LETTERS TO THE EDITOR |------------------------------------[NLE]NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month.[EOA][LTE]AN INVITATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of theApple II computers.Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considersunsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.[EOA][KFT]------------------------------                       KFest 2002 |-----------------------------------[KFR]KFest REMINDER""""""""""""""There is a lot of kid in going to Kfest, no doubt.  I always bring projectsmost of which I don't get done.  I wish it had rained earlier in the week,so temperature would go down.  But not on Wednesday.  This was a warm year,not truly hot.  There was one year when leaving the window open was great!Not this year.I have not written my review of Kfest yet, the muse has not struck.  Cansomeone help me get started by reminding me of important facts?  I thinkthat might help me get of the dime.  Last year it just burning inside and Icould hardly keep it in.  This year the pictures were where most of myenergy went.  I still need to completely finish the spread, sadly.  I needto get a new ftp program I guess.  <<sigh>>Bruce(BBAKER, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 9)>>>>>"""""Bruce,Will start you off by reminding you how wonderful it is that we can all gettogether and see each other every year at KFest:)  Everyone just assumesKFest will happen every year. That is not so. KFest happens because there'senough interest to make it happen and permit us to get together. In otherwords, KFest happens because of those who attend/support KFest. It's stillthe attendees that are responsible for KFest every year, although there areincredible contributions by many that can't attend but want to add whatthey can and be a part of the yearly gathering.Like always, there were significant highlights (at least for me) besidesseeing everyone able to attend.  Among them:1. Hmm. Number 1 again is the camaraderie and help from all who were able   to attend. We always have one very special group at KFest!2. Syndicomm support and the Softdisk announcement. Sheppy just seems to   have more energy than I'll ever be able to muster in support of KFest.3. A major highlight every year is the newbies and I wasn't disappointed to   see the "new members" who attended this year! I know better than to feel   they are newbies. They may be new to KFest but they've always been   experienced users who have added to everyone's enjoyment, and hopefully   will return in coming years to continue the sharing of information that   is such a big part of KFest.4. I'd like to mention Shawn Beattie once again. He's provided the   projector for years now and has only been to ONE KFest:(  Maybe you   could mention something in your review that would get him to attend next   year:)5. Ditto for Jerry Cline. Jerry couldn't make it this year and we missed   him. Although he couldn't attend, he's done outstanding work for KFest   again this year and was a tremendous help to all of us.6. Not sure how you can fit this in, but Sean is a new Dad and we learned   about that special event at KFest. Maybe you could handle that as I did   and note how happy we all were to welcome a new addition to our "KFest   Family":)  Somehow I think you understand what I mean and why that was   an important event for us.7. The BBQ! A thought that blossomed. Thanks to Ryan and Kirk, especially,   for making this happen, and happen so well! It's probably going become   a tradition at KFest after the wonderful experience we had this year.   Will be difficult to relate to anyone who hasn't attended KFest, but a   lot of the "allure" of KFest is hard to explain to anyone who hasn't   been there and experienced it in person;)Hope that gets you started:)  It's all "off the top of my head" and Ihaven't mentioned all the wonderful contributions made by each and everyattendee this year.Great KFest again; looking forward to next year,Steve(KFESTSTEVE, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 11)[EOA][PFK]PICTURES FROM KFest 2002""""""""""""""""""""""""OK, the almost final online edition of my photos of kfest is ready.This is the final beta.  (Does that sound right?)www.hal-pc.org/~bbaker/kfest2002.htmlcaptions, where there are some, are embedded in the alt tag so if you holdthe mouse over the picture the caption should appear.This must be close to 100 pictures, I did not count.   Feel free to usethem with attribution.  Thanks.Breaking most cameramen's rule, my picture actually does appear a fewtimes.  Of course I got to pose for my pictures, most of the rest of youdidn't get that advantage. hehehe  But most of you look natural and that isnice, really.EnjoyBruce Baker(BBAKER, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 16)[EOA][KFT]------------------------------                       KFest 2003 |-----------------------------------[PBT]KFest 2003 - PLAN TO BE THERE!""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""KansasFest 2003 is planned for July 22-27, 2003 at Avila University inKansas City, Missouri.(Entrance banner, Cat 5, Top 5)[EOA][INN]------------------------------                     EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp!   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