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An Onipa'a Software Production        Vol. 5, No. 7 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::                            TABLE OF CONTENTS                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                              July 15, 2002HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN]     The Desire to Communicate     The Tinkerer's CornerA2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS     Log In Problem---------------------------------------------------[LIP]     Pre-KFest Chat 2002 in Library-----------------------------------[PKC]     GEnie Lamp Index Sample Uploaded---------------------------------[GLI]     Your Reason for Choosing to Use an Apple II Computer?------------[YRC]     How do Nodes Work?-----------------------------------------------[HNW]     The Internet Using Marinetti and Bernie ][ The Rescue------------[IMB]     Casper, Web Hosting for the IIgs?--------------------------------[CWH]     IF/Text-Adventure Fans-------------------------------------------[ITA]     Inform Compiler to Compile Z-Code Games--------------------------[ICZ]     Juiced.GS V7I2---------------------------------------------------[JGS]     Apple Technical Reference, 2nd Edition Now Complete--------------[TRC]     Email Address to Request a New Tool Set--------------------------[RTS]     GSOS Support for Upper/Lower Case Letters in ProDOS File Names---[LFN]ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM     July Issue of Syndicommotion Now Available-----------------------[JIS]     Blocking Email---------------------------------------------------[BEM]     Syndicomm Online Store Updated-----------------------------------[OSU]     To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU]DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS     Creating Image of Hard Drive for Emulator------------------------[CID]THE TINKERER'S CORNER-------------------------------------------------[TTC]     Persistence Pays OffLETTERS TO THE EDITOR     No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE]     An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE]KFEST 2002     You Are Invited--------------------------------------------------[YAI]     Good Food Promotes Fellowship------------------------------------[FPF]     People Are Signing up for Next Year Already!---------------------[SNY]     KFest 2002 Registration Information------------------------------[KFR]EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]                                [*] [*] [*]READING THE LAMP!   The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make"""""""""""""""""   your reading easier.  To use this system, load thisissue into any word processor or text editor.  In the index you will findsomething like:EXTRA INNINGS     About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN]To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate[INN].  There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA].[OPN]-------------------------------         HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER |------------------------------------From The Editor"""""""""""""""by Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>                         The Desire to Communicate                         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     From High Above The Rock River, the clearing in the far western skyallows the golden sunshine to creep under the cloudy sky to brightlyilluminate shinny objects to the east.  The many cell phone towers call forattention.  This reminds us that people have an impatient urge tocommunicate... to talk to others that are important to them.     The many family reunions that take place in the summer remind us thattalking and visiting with people in person is the ultimate form ofcommunication.     KFest is the annual family reunion of Apple II users... if you haveever used an Apple II you are a member of the family.  We would like you tobe present at our family reunion -this- year.  See the KFest section ofthis issue of _The Lamp!_ for registration information.                           The Tinkerer's Corner                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     Starting with this issue of _The Lamp!_ we have a new feature, TheTinkerer's Corner.  Some of the projects will be very practical.  Otherswill be fun ways of doing things that really don't need to be done.  Inthis issue we share the story of an interesting find at one of the localthrift stores.[EOA]ASCII ART BEGINS_________  _                     _                                      _|__   __| | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |                   | |                                    | |   | |    | |___     ____       | |       _____   __ ___ _   _ _____   | |   | |    | ___ \   / __ \      | |      /____ \  | v   v | | v ___ \  | |   | |    | |  | | | /__\ \     | |       ____| | | /\ /\ | |  /   \ \ | |   | |    | |  | | | _____|     | |      / ___  | | || || | | |    | | |_|   | |    | |  | | | |_____     | |____  | |__| | | || || | |  \___/ /  _   |_|    |_|  |_| \______|     |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/  |_|                                                            | |                                                            | |                                                            |_|ASCII ART ENDS[EOA]---------------------------------------------------DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com  |                                  (A2Central.com) |---------------------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[LIP]LOG IN PROBLEM""""""""""""""Since July 1, whenever I log onto Syndicomm.com using my telnet textconnection, I am asked for my Password _before_ I am asked for my loginname.  Of course, no matter what I enter, I get the response invalid,_then_ it asks for my login, followed by my Password and all is well.Why is it skipping the login name request at first connection?Is anyone else having this problem?                  MT Steve(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 14)>>>>>""""""whoami" or possibly "who am i" is the command to tell you what your unixname is.  Your isp probably updated their telnet so it now sends your namewhen you do a login.  With ssh, you override it with the -l flag, eg:ssh a2central.com -l a2central_login_name"man telnet" to see if there's a flag for that.Kelvin(KWS, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 18)>>>>>"""""As Kelvin mentioned, you could try the -l flag (lowercase L):telnet -l a2central_login_name syndicomm.comYour ISP's version of telnet may also support using the -K flag (uppercaseK) to disable automatic login:telnet -K syndicomm.comLater,- Aaron(A2PROGEEK, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 19)>>>>>"""""I just checked out my shell telnet using the "man" command.  Turns out theydid change it to make automatic login the default.  It also accepts the"-K" command.  So, I added that to the argument stream in my Spectrumscript and it now works just like it used to work.  Thanks again !  :)                  MT Steve(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 21)[EOA][PKC]PRE-KFest CHAT 2002 IN LIBRARY""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""We have a new upload in the a2central.com_archives/Chat_Transcriptsdirectory.File: PreKFestChat2002.txtSize: 44053Date: Jun 25This is a plain text transcript of the pre-KFest chat on Just 17, 2002.(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 7)[EOA][GLI]GEnie Lamp INDEX SAMPLE UPLOADED""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""There is a new file in the publications/genielamp.a2 directory:File: LampIndex.txtSize: 36241Date: Jul 01Here is a description from the uploader, copied from his post in Category20, Topic 20 "The Lamp":I've uploaded a text file to the library (uploads section, so I don't knowwhere it will go) that is an attempt at creating an Index to GEnie Lamp.The upload is for 1992 and the start of 1993.I looking for feedback primarily in terms of whether the format isappropriate for an index. I've tried to list any item that has multipleways of searching for the info in more than one entry. For instance, a bugin HyperStudio would be listed under Hyperstudio, and Roger WagnerPublishing, and possibly some other entry.If this is simply too wordy, nobody would ever use it, etc., let me knowand I'll just use it myself. :-)Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<(A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 8)[EOA][YRC]YOUR REASON FOR CHOOSING TO USE AN Apple II COMPUTER?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""For those who stated that they are still using their Apple II or IIgsregularly, are you choosing to use this computer because it's what you haveand can afford, out of fierce loyalty, or out a lack of interest inlearning something different (i.e., Windows or Mac or Linux) - as in "if itain't broke, don't fix it"?What is that special something about the Apple II/IIGS that makes it yourcomputer-of-choice?Steven WeyhrichApple II Historianhttp://apple2history.org(SWEYHRICH, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 19)>>>>>"""""For myself I have a number of other machines outside of my Apple IIcollection including a PIII-667 MHz IBM PC which my family uses forInternet/games/etc.  The reason why I continue to use Apple II's is becauseeven after 23 years since I started with them, they still are fun.Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 20)>>>>>"""""I continue to use my Apple IIs because they do everything that I need in acomputer.  I have used many kinds of computers, from main frames to buildyour own.  I can use Windows or a Mac and have done so on many occasions,on jobs or helping out friends with problems.  However, I don't have a needfor anything that they do that my Apple II doesn't.  The Apple II does whatI need much faster than the Windows or Mac machines, due to lower overhead,which more than makes up for the slower processor and bus.  In most of myuses, the speed limitation is due to the fingers, not the computer. ;)I use the Windows machines at the library to access the web.  I find theweb uninteresting and, in the main, useless to me.  So, for the occasionalneed, the library works fine and saves me the big bucks that anothercomputer would cost.And finally, when I want the computer to do something that it doesn't,rather than hunting for the software that will do the job and then buyingthat as I would most likely have to do on one of the current machines, Ijust do a little programming and the problem is solved.                      MT Steve(S.BERNBAUM, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 21)>>>>>"""""I use the Apple II not because I don't have other computers available, butsimply because it's the right tool for the job.There's no way we could produce Juiced.GS on anything else at the ratewe're doing and the cost we're doing, for instance.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 22)>>>>>"""""This IIgs is a fun machine.It has been put together by myself using hardware from many sources.  SeanFahey's garage (KFest), thrift stores, garage sales, individuals on theweb, etc.There is a considerable degree of satisfaction listening to the softcackling of the hard drive salvaged from an old Mac while visitingSyndicomm Online and Delphi, reading usenet, doing email, and surfing thenet.And it is only fitting that _The Lamp!_, a publication devoted to theApple II computers, should be produced and managed using a real A2.Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>   Editor, _The Lamp!_published monthly at:   http://lamp.a2central.com/(LYLE, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 23)>>>>>"""""Sad  to say, although my GS is still set here on my computer desk, itdoesn't get fired up much anymore.  It still runs well, and the HD has beenhumming over there nonstop for many years, I just don't seem to find muchuse for it any more.I got my //c in 1984 for christmas, and used it for many years beforepurchasing a used GS from a friend.  Spent a lot of time and money on it.Well spent I might add.There are about a dozen GSs in the garage, along with the original //c andsome //es.  My wife would love it if I found a good home for them. :-)I've been thinking about replacing it with the Linux/BE box that I havejust set up.  I still have Sweet 16 running on the BE partition, so Iwouldn't be losing any functionality, just old faithful herself.Anyway, I'll wait until after K Fest before I do anything drastic.If this is of any use to you, as always, you have my permission to use anyof it.Dave 'Uncle Duck' Johnson(DAVEJ, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 24)>>>>>"""""I still use a IIgs Rom 3 on a daily basis, for most of my finances. I alsouse it for reading messages here on Syndicomm. There are several games thatalso fill it's time. I used it for mail for a while, but finally moved toEudora on my Mac. I tried Web browsing with the GS, but decided I preferredmore speed and full graphics on the Mac.My GS is running at 10MHz, has 8 MB of ram, uses a 17" SVHS monitor andreads messages here via a LANceGS and a cable modem. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed  19 Jun 02  1:18:38 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 25)>>>>>""""">> What is that special something about the Apple II/IIGS that makes ityour computer-of-choice? <<For me, it's "Spectrum", "AppleWorks", and "Your Money Matters". I use thefirst to communicate with Syndicomm, and the last 2 for personal finances.Ihave yet to find anything for the Mac that does what these do for the GS. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed  19 Jun 02  2:03:23 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 26)>>>>>"""""You know I still have one at work and one at home.  I still like to playsome BBS games from time to time and Proterm has the best emulation around.I play chess with a guy on his board.I use appleworks.  I like the feel of not having to take a monster wordprocessor to do a kids job.  I have never figured out excel or any other PCspreadsheet or database.  (Well I do use dbase4 and dbaseV at work, awfulprogram.)  So if I am creating a database or spreadsheet, admittedly prettyrare I do it on my //gs.  Now that my internet provider has shut off mytelnet access (at least to send).  I now have to read email on a pc.  Itmeans I do it less.  It is very annoying to have to move that mouse aroundfor everything.  I much prefer using a keyboard to read my mail.I have one //gs set up at work and one set up at home.It mostly gets used for BBSing and telnetting and reading a few usergroups.I have not figured out how to read usergroups from my pc.You are right I hate to bother to learn new programs when the ones I havework fine.Right now I am not playing games on the apple.  I used to do the oldsoftdisk crosswords and solitaire games a lot.  But now 98% of the time Iuse appleworks 5.1 and proterm 3.1, both installed on hard drives.Bruce(BBAKER, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 28)>>>>>"""""Thanks to all who have been kind enough so far to post their thoughts andanswers to my question(s)! I really appreciate it.Steven Weyhrich <IX0YE>--<Apple II Historianhttp://apple2history.org(SWEYHRICH, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 27)[EOA][HNW]HOW DO NODES WORK?""""""""""""""""""I've always wondered: how exactly do nodes work?  CompuServe and AOL havedial-up points throughout the world.  What is at the other end of thosenumbers?  Is it a deal with the phone company where local phone numbers arererouted to AOL HQ?  Or are there physical locations in each city wherebanks of AOL modems are located?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 60)>>>>>"""""As I understand it, there are actually banks of modems in those cities thatcorrespond to those numbers, tucked into nondescript rooms in nondescriptbuildings somewhere in the city.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 61)>>>>>"""""Banks of modems, which can be anywhere they can find space, power andenough phone lines. From there, it is piped to the service via T1, T3, orhigher data circuits as needed. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri  12 Jul 02  8:51:40 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 11 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 62)>>>>>"""""These non-descript rooms can exist in many different places.  Some are:* Closet of a local library.  In exchange for the space, the library getsfree access* Telephone switch center.  Companies, such as Sprint, purchase rack spacein a local Bell central office or switch center.  Not only is voiceequipment installed, but modem banks can be added as well.A more expensive option, but one that is still used, phone numbers arepurchased in one area and have the calls automatically forwarded to acentral modem bank somewhere else.  The local phone company handles theswitching involved.More information can be found in archives of the inet-access mailing list.Geoff(GEOFF, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 63)[EOA][IMB]THE INTERNET USING MARINETTI AND Bernie ][ The Rescue"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Is it possible to connect to the Internet (web or otherwise) with Marinettiand Bernie ][ The Rescue? I just installed it, and it is looking for aconnection via the printer or modem port.This is with Bernie 2.6 and 3.0.Steven WeyhrichApple II Historianhttp://apple2history.org(SWEYHRICH, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 37)>>>>>"""""Yes.  Hook a modem to your Mac's serial port and dial right out.  You can'tshare your Mac's broadband or other internet connection.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 38)>>>>>"""""Yes indeed. You must set the Bernie Communications prefs to Internal Modemor Modem/Serial Port depending on your Mac, then set the speed to 57,600and DTR Emulation to Emulated.Now set Marinetti to use the IIgs Modem Port and enter the correctinformation for your ISP. You can then use any Marinetti aware applicationsuch as the provided Telnet app, TelnetDA, or Spectrum. Apart from Telnetaccess, Spectrum will let you run the various script sets such as SAM(e-mail), SAFE (FTP), SIS (web) and SOAR (offline reader for Syndicomm).SAM & SOAR are commercial script sets and can be obtained from SharewareSolutions, the other two you can get from my web site. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 12 Jun 2002 - 41 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 39)>>>>>"""""That's the problem. Not only do I have one of those new-fangled iMacs withno floppy disk drive, but I have no serial port and am using Ethernet toconnect to the Net via my broadband connection, with the Airport hubmoderating connections with three other Macs.So I take it that Bernie can't do anything with the net via AppleTalk or anemulated Ethernet card (doesn't anyone have LANceGS done in softwareyet???).  Too bad. :-(Steven WeyhrichApple II Historianhttp://apple2history.org(SWEYHRICH, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 40)>>>>>""""">> (doesn't anyone have LANceGS done in software yet???). <<We've begged for it, but nothing so far.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 41)>>>>>"""""I am afraid that is the case. However your iMac has a modem built in, soyou could always connect that to your phone line and make Bernie happy...Bernie is also happy to use an ISDN connection. As long as your connectionmethod appears in the 'Port' popup, Bernie will use it... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 13 Jun 2002 - 40 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/(CONDUCTOR, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 42)[EOA][CWH]CASPER, WEB HOSTING FOR THE IIgs?"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Back at KFest '98, didn't I see a brief demo of a program called Ghost orCasper - a web-hosting program for the IIgs?  Who produced it, and whateverbecame of it?-Ken(KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 43)>>>>>"""""Casper was an HTTP server written by Richard Bennett.  It was neverreleased.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 44)>>>>>"""""It's available (in source code form only) on the mosp source forge page....http://sourceforge.net/projects/marinettihttp://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/marinetti/MOSP/Applications/Casper/Kelvin(KWS, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 35)[EOA][ITA]IF/TEXT-ADVENTURE FANS""""""""""""""""""""""Any IF/text-adventure peoples out there? I'm currently having fun playing"Wedding" on ye olde IIGS. Only problem is that the (I'm going to foobarthe name for sure) Big Red Computer interpreter seems to run kinda slow,even for a (stock) Transwarped-GS. Anyone know of other compilers or speedtricks or anything?~Tarage(TARAGE, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 57)>>>>>"""""Sure, I love IF. :)The Big Red interpreter is the only one that was ever finished, to myknowledge.  There may be a couple of text-based ones though, but I'm notsure.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 58)>>>>>""""">> Only problem is that the (I'm going to foobar the name for sure) Big RedComputer interpreter seems to run kinda slow, even for a (stock)Transwarped-GS. Anyone know of other compilers or speed tricks...<<There are a couple other interpreters (and even a story compiler)available, but they must run under a shell (gno, orca, maybe prosel).ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/gs.specific/gno/games/has inform (the compiler) and infozip (the interpreter)The location would suggest they're gno specific, but I don't recalloffhand.I'm fairly sure there's another interpreter that was ported, but infozipshould be faster and have fewer bugs than the BRCC-one.  And, you play froma text-shell in 80-column mode, so it's more authentic :)Kelvin(KWS, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 60)Message 60         Thu Jun 20, 2002[Kelvin]                 at 06:38 PDT[EOA][ICZ]INFORM COMPILER TO COMPILE Z-CODE GAMES"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Has anyone ever used the INFORM compiler under the Orca shell tosuccessfully compile Z-code games? (INFORM is the language used to writesuch classics as Zork and Planetfall, for the unawares). I'm just askingbecause it keeps dumping out into machine language when it hits a switch()statement in a header file. Wondering if anyone has had success...Thanks,~Tarage(TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 10)>>>>>"""""I didn't know anyone had built INFORM for the ORCA/Shell.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 11)>>>>>"""""I think I compiled the sample program with it under gno/me, but I don'trecall for sure.  Check the release notes to see if it does require gnome.Kelvin(KWS, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 12)>>>>>"""""Oh yeah! It was done in 1995 but I've forgotten the guy's name off the topof my head (I'm at work and don't have access to my A2 files here). Supportwas abandoned at that point, because it only generates .Z5 files, andINFORM is now up to version 6.(TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 13)Message 13         Fri Jun 21, 2002[tarage]              at 13:21 PDT>>>>>"""""Thanks! I will compare these versions to the INFORM compiler for the IIGSmade available at the IF FTP siteftp://ftp.ifarchive.org/if-archive/programming/inform5.5/executables/(which is the one I'm attempting to use now -- it has no requirements forrunning under GNO/ME AFAIR)...(TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 14)[EOA][JGS]Juiced.GS V7I2""""""""""""""Juiced.GS V7I2 has been ordered from our printer and copies for USsubscribers should be mailed tomorrow.  Once I receive them, Internationalsubscribers' copies will go out; hopefully in about a week.Enjoy the inaugural swimsuit issue!Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 291)>>>>>"""""The June 2002 issue should be a well-received issue, I would think.Of course, what I've learned from the first issue of volume 7 is that awell-received Juiced.GS issue is mostly utter silence. :)  There have beena few nice comments in RTC or here in the forum, but I got exactly one (1)letter in email or snail mail since that issue, and it pointed out twotypos  :)Ryan(RSUENAGA, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 292)>>>>>"""""We're not in this for the money, guys.  Bring on the feedback! :)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 293)>>>>>"""""Hey!  We could have a "Spot Ryan's Boo-boo's Contest".  Whoever spots themost, gets a free ComputerEyes!Seriously Ryan, you're doing a great job.  I place content overpresentation every time, and you haven't disappointed me in either account.B-{)I tremble in fear at a Juiced.GS "swimming suit" edition though... B-{DKirk(A2.KIRK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 295)>>>>>"""""Ryan,You have done a fabulous job.  Keep up the good work.  As long as you keepproducing them, I will keep buying them.Here's to Juiced.Gs and the Apple ][, alive and kicking in ][00][.Dain NeaterKeeper of the Boards.A2 Community Syndicomm.com(A2.DAIN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 296)>>>>>"""""We have had at least one copy of V7I2 show up with some pages upside down.We have no idea yet what the extent of this problem is, but we will takesteps to correct the situation as soon as we know if there's more than onebad copy out there.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 297)>>>>>"""""Mine arrived today.  An interesting read in regard to content andformatting. Well, I like a challenge once in a while.Yes, I think you need to complain to your printer.  I managed to read thewhole issue without much trouble.  But the second side of the 11x17 pagewas put in the printer ass end to. I'm surprised the operator didn't catchthis.But as to content, it was as good an issue as I've seen.  Thanks for allthe hard work you guys put into this enterprise.DaveUncle Duck(DAVEJ, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 310)>>>>>"""""Mine arrived today, and was just fine, all in order. Mine comes from CarolStream, IL. Another very fine issue it is, too. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed  19 Jun 02  3:18:43 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 308)>>>>>"""""Juiced.GS arrived in Illinois today.  Another great issue.  And the pagesare all right side up and in order.Lyle Syverson <lyle@FoxValley.net>   Editor, _The Lamp!_published monthly at:   http://lamp.a2central.com/(LYLE, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 310)>>>>>"""""The printer will refund the entire cost of mailing the bad issues, so Ifully intend to send out new ones to people that have copies with pagesupside down.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 312)>>>>>"""""My copy arrived today, everything looks fine.  Like Carl's copy, it is fromCarol Stream, IL.I haven't read it all yet but everything I have read is interesting.Thanks Ryan, Sheppy, Ken, Howard, Tony, Max, and anyone else involved.Margaret(MARGARET, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 313)>>>>>"""""The "swimsuit" issue was much better than the hype, fortunately. :) Anotherwell-written Juiced.GS.Still, when I first saw the cover, I wondered if you guys had hired Diz todo the cover design. It has the GS+ style. :)- Aaron(A2PROGEEK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 314)>>>>>"""""That's probably as goofy a cover as we'll ever do.  We've been using morephotos than Max used to, and I'm wondering if we're doing -too- much ofthat.In any case, thanks, Aaron.Ryan(A2.RYAN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 316)>>>>>"""""Got my copy yesterday...  Carol Springs, IL.It's in fine shape, and a wonderful issue too.  B-{)Kirk(A2.KIRK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 317)>>>>>"""""We are trying to determine just how broad the scope of the printing problemis.  So far, subscribers in CA, HI, OR, CO, and AZ have identifiedproblems.Please let us know if you have a bad issue, so we can get new ones out toeveryone (including me!)RyanChief Sysop, A2Editor in Chief, Juiced.GS(A2.RYAN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 318)>>>>>"""""I got my replacement issue yesterday and it is fine.Thanks for all the hard work Ryan.  One of the best issues yet.Dave(DAVEJ, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 332)[EOA][TRC]Apple Technical Reference, 2nd Edition NOW COMPLETE"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Just a note to let folks know that we now have the pages that were missingfrom the master of the Apple IIc Technical Reference, 2nd Edition.So if you've been holding off placing your order, go for it! ;)Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 62)[EOA][RTS]EMAIL ADDRESS TO REQUEST A NEW TOOL SET"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""What is the current email address to request a new tool set?  AndrewRoughan is writing a new tool set and I didn't see any Web pages with thisinformation.Geoff(GEOFF, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 1)>>>>>"""""Try a2pro@syndicomm.com.  I think that's the one.  If it doesn't work, I'lldo some investigating.  The list has been so slow that I've forgotten theaddress. :)(The address goes to a number of people that cooperatively make thedecisions).Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 2)>>>>>"""""I actually should have checked by old emails.  I found an email dated backin August 1999 which was sent to a2pro@syndicomm.com which was used to getthe Hash Toolset accepted.  If nothing else, thank you for confirming thatthe address is still valid.Geoff(GEOFF, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 3)[EOA][LFN]GSOS SUPPORT FOR UPPER/LOWER CASE LETTERS IN ProDOS FILE NAMES""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""How does GSOS provide support for upper and lower case letters in it'sProDOS file names?  It seems to store the filename itself in all upper casebut has devised some mechanism to determine which ones should be displayedin upper or lower case.Any help?-- Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 13)>>>>>"""""There's a 16-bit field in which the bits are on to indicate upper case andoff to indicate lower (or vice versa, I don't remember).Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 14)>>>>>"""""Do you have any idea where this is documented?  I can't find it in eithermy ProDOS Technical Reference Manual or Beyond Apple ProDOS.Any idea why they did it this way rather than just using lowercase ASCIIdirectly in the filename?Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 15)>>>>>""""">> Do you have any idea where this is documented?  I can't find it ineither my ProDOS Technical Reference Manual or Beyond Apple ProDOS. <<There's a technical note about it.>> Any idea why they did it this way rather than just using lowercase ASCIIdirectly in the filename? <<Because adding lowercase support directly into the file names would havebroken compatibility with any older applications that didn't know about it,and would have broken disk compatibility with older versions of ProDOS andBASIC.SYSTEM too.By using the bitfield, the disk just looks like all upper-case to the oldersoftware.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 17)>>>>>"""""I don't have my A2 tech stuff with me, but the ProDOS case bytes are storedin the directory entry.Ahh, enough excuses - excuse me while I go Google....OK, I'm back. Here is a quote from GS/OS Tech Note #8 "Filenames With MoreThan CAPS and Numerals":=================================Two previously unused bytes in each file's directory entry are now used toindicate the case of a filename.  The bytes are at relative locations +$1Cand +$1D in each directory entry, and were previously labeled version andmin_version.  Since ProDOS 8 never actually used these bytes for versionchecking (except in one case, discussed below), they are now used to storelowercase information.  (In the Volume header, bytes +$1A and +$1B are usedinstead.)If version is read as a word value, bit 7 of min_version would be thehighest bit (bit 15) of the word.  If that bit is set, the remaining 15bits of the word are interpreted as flags that indicate whether thecorresponding character in the filename is uppercase or lowercase, with setindicating lowercase.  For example, the filename Desk.Accs has a value inthis word of $B9C0, or binary 1011 1001 1100 0000.  The followingillustration shows the relationship between the bits and the filename:        Bits in WORD:                   1011100111000000        Filename:                       Desk.Accs        Uppercase or Lowercase:         ULLLUULLLNote that the period (.) is considered an uppercase character.=================================Peter               peterw@syndicomm.comPalm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager(PETERW, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 19)>>>>>"""""I often find that there is so much information spread over so manydifferent places that it is very difficult for a newbie to locate what heis looking for.  I knew that lowercase letters were possible in filenamessince I've seen it 100's of times and it threw me when it wasn't whereI expected it to be.  Thank you very much to everybody for their effort.I appreciate your help!Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 21)>>>>>"""""Investigating this issue a little further I have discovered that there isan exception to the Tech Note.  It seems that Appleworks Classic filesdon't use the "version" and "min_version" bytes but use the file's auxtypeinstead in a similar fashion.  My assumption is that this is due to thefact that Appleworks predates the IIgs by two years.Interesting however... :)Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host"Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night.7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT(MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 23)>>>>>"""""And as a result, AppleWorks can't see lower case letters in the name of afile created by the ProDOS FST, and the ProDOS FST can't see lower caseletters in the name of a file created by AppleWorks. :) I remember readingabout all this many years ago, but I don't know where. Probably on GEnie orin A2-Central. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Thu  27 Jun 02  11:05:48 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 26 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com(CARLK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 24)[EOA]------------------------------------      ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[JIS]JULY ISSUE OF Syndicommotion NOW AVAILABLE""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The July issue of Syndicommotion (Volume 1, Issue 7) is now available, andcan be accessed one of three ways:- Selecting menu option #3 from Page 2 (type "m3;2" without the quotes atany Syndicomm Online menu prompt);- Point your web browser at<http://www.syndicomm.com/syndicommotion/v1n7.html>- Receive it via email.  If you're not already subscribed to receiveSyndicommotion by email, sign up at<<http://www.syndicomm.com/syndicommotion>-Ken Gagnewriting@syndicomm.com(KGAGNE, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 6)[EOA][BEM]BLOCKING EMAIL""""""""""""""We recently discovered that our upstream provider had been blocking emailfrom users at btinternet.com due to a substantial spam problem.  This wascausing our members inconvenience, so we asked our provider to change this,and they have done so.So, for now, email from btinternet.com works.  Our provider does say thatif the spam problem persists, they'll block it again.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 9)[EOA][OSU]SYNDICOMM ONLINE STORE UPDATED""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Our online store has been updated!  We now properly support airmailoverseas, and the store allows you to pay by check or money order.We'll be adding more products to it over the next few days and weeks, suchas our remaining inventory of GS+ and a few other items that still aren'tlisted.Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd                                sheppy@syndicomm.comOwner, Syndicomm                                  http://www.syndicomm.com                     Building communities, bit by bit.(SYNDICOMM, A2, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 59)[EOA][TSU]TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or tosign up!(Logon message)[EOA]------------------------------------      DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>[CID]CREATING IMAGE OF HARD DRIVE FOR EMULATOR"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""I am trying to make an image of my hard drive from my IIGS for running onan emulator (XGS or KeGS32) on my pc.  I have GSHK on the gs & I can putfiles (.shk, .bxy) on a Syquest ez135 that I can read on the pc (MacOpener)But I can't seem to get Nulib2 or Alladin Expander/Dropstuff to 'make a.2mg image.Help!!!!Thanks, Greg(GCHICHESTER, 3539.42, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""Stick with KEGS32. It's not merely a personal preference of mine, simplyone program does near-flawless emulation of a IIgs (and may very well bethe best IIgs emulator to date, even exceeding Bernie) and the other is theexact opposite in every respect.The latest version can be found here:http://www.geocities.com/akilgard/kegs32/>> I have GSHK on the gs & I can put files (.shk, .bxy) on a Syquest ez135that I can read on the pc (MacOpener) But I can't seem to get Nulib2 orAlladin Expander/Dropstuff to 'make a .2mg image. <<Simple solution: Use Ninjaforce's Asimov 2.0 on the IIgs side. Select thepartition and have it create a 32MB *.2MG image from it (you'll need an HFSvolume to store it, as ProDOS can't handle files larger than 16MB; itsounds like you already have an HFS partition on the SyQuest cart). It'svery straight forward.That's what I used and now have a copy of my IIgs hardrive for KEGS32 touse. I believe you can only mount two partitions at a time at the moment,though hopefully this should change in time.Asimov URL: http://www.ninjaforce.com/downloads/Asimov.shkMitchell Spectora_specto@alcor.concordia.ca(SPECTOR1, 3539.43, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""Thanks, that is a good start.  I guess this is my typical 'straightforward'..... :)I d/l'd Ninjaforce's Asimov 2.0 (S16), moved & opened on the GS.  I bootinto 6.01 using ProSel16.  Running Asimov 2.0 got an error($0010) 'deviceis busy'... OK maybe doesn't like Bredon... duh lets try FINDER... OK now Iget to selecting source,destination & name it... ERROR ($0043) 'invalidref' this could be fun, but it isn't.  I can't make an image.Now to my question.. Does someone know the error code meanings or how toresolve/dissolve my stone wall?  I have (empty) (2)42,000 block Prodospartitions, a 135mb & a 42,000 block HFS partition, 800k floppies.  I triedto image a 800k floppy,a 12,000 block HD. Both give the same errors... I amnaming the file test.2mg, test.2img, test (w/o a suffix)..same error..Please help, I'm getting tired... I'm missing something very basic.Greg(GCHICHESTER, 3539.45, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>""""">> OK now I get to selecting source,destination & name it....ERROR ($0043)'invalid ref' this could be fun, but it isn't.  I can't make an image. <<That's a GS/OS error code for "Bad file reference number". When I wrote upa review on Asimov, one thing I discovered is the program is very sensitiveto bad media or corrupted/damaged volumes. I'm not quite sure what thaterror is referring to exactly though, I'd have to look it up to refresh mymemory.You can't even run a disk validity scan with ProSel-16 (or any other GS/OStool) because it's HFS you're dealing with. Try reformatting the SyQuestcart and see if that helps. Assuming that was the problem.If that doesn't work, try using Sheppy's ImageMaker program as analternative. It should handle the same type of job, converting a 32MBProDOS hardisk volume into a *.2MG disk image file:   http://www.sheppyware.net/products/a2/imagemaker/Mitchell Spectora_specto@alcor.concordia.ca(SPECTOR1, 3539.46, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""You seem to be stressing 32mb.. Is there a specification to that exactsize? Do I have to make an empty partition to an exact size first?Can it be the size of my original GS partition? Is it REQUIRED to do thisimage to a Prodos partition?Thanks, Greg(GCHICHESTER, 3539.48, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>""""">> You seem to be stressing 32mb... <<Sorry if I confused anyone there. I always make my ProDOS partition thelargest possible maximum on my IIgs: 32768K. So that's all I've personallydealt with mostly.>> Is there a specification to that exact size? <<Not at all. KEGS (and I would assume XGS) allow pretty much arbitrary sizedhardisk images. You can have a 1MB, 10MB, 13MB, etc *.2MG image--though NOTlarger than 32MB obviously or it won't be usable as a ProDOS device.>> Do I have to make an empty partition to an exact size first? <<Nope, if your boot partition is only 15MB, then Asimov will see it andproperly convert it to a *.2MG image file (it should actually be just thatsize, a 15MB data file).>> Can it be the size of my original GS partition? <<Yep, see above.>> Is it REQUIRED to do this image to a Prodos partition? <<I'm not sure I understand the question...Mitchell Spectora_specto@alcor.concordia.ca(SPECTOR1, 3539.50, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>"""""as opposed to hfs format..academic now. As you suggested I used Sheppyware's program. EXACTLY asAsimovs on my GS & it made my HD a .2mg file on my hfs Syquest w/oblinking.....I now can view my GS booting into prosel8 & can launch prosel16 ON MY pc!!!!!!Any ideas why I got (GS) errors w/ Asimov?Thanks, Greg(GCHICHESTER, 3539.52, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>""""">> As you suggested I used Sheppyware's program. EXACTLY as Asimovs on myGS & it made my HD a .2mg file on my hfs Syquest w/o blinking..... I nowcan view my GS booting into prosel8 & can launch prosel16 ON MY pc ! <<Glad it worked!>> Any ideas why I got (GS) errors w/ Asimov? <<I'm not sure if I would call it buggy, but it definitely IS over sensitiveto software volume errors and corruption. I'm betting there is some kind oferror on that HFS volume.I had similar problems reading or writing to a certain volume with Asimovwhile ImageMaker, as you say, worked without blinking. I later ran adisk-scan on that particular volume with ProSel-16 and discovered errors onthe drive. After letting ProSel repair the drive Asimov then worked fine.You can take that as either a good thing or a bad thing. :)I think it's actually a good thing, though a future version of Asimov_should_ really bring up a message reporting the error and asking if youwant to abort or ignore and continue.There's reviews of both Asimov and DiskMaker (ImageMaker's companionprogram) over at A2Central.http://www.a2central.com/reviews/asimov/index.htmlhttp://www.a2central.com/reviews/diskmaker/index.htmlMitchell Spectora_specto@alcor.concordia.ca(SPECTOR1, 3539.54, Delphi A2 web side)>>>>>""""">> That's a GS/OS error code for "Bad file reference number". When I wroteup a review on Asimov, one thing I discovered is the program is verysensitive to bad media or corrupted/damaged volumes. I'm not quite surewhat that error is referring to exactly though, I'd have to look it up torefresh my memory. <<To nitpick it sounds like a ProDOS error code.A program like Asimov would have three parts.1) Read a volume block by block.2) Process that data in this case format it to .2mg format.3) Write the data.Part 1 would likely be ProDOS READ_BLOCK call which doesn't use filereference numbers.Part 2 probably just straight memory manipulation and no ProDOS callinvolved.Part 3 would need to use calls like OPEN (which assigns the referencenumber), READ, WRITE, CLOSE which all require that reference number tofunction. Here is where the error is likely coming from.So it looks like that under certain circumstances that a call to a READ,WRITE or CLOSE is happening either before the OPEN is executed or thereference number assigned by the OPEN is being corrupted. This could be dueto either a bug in Asimov or another process (bad CDA, NDA?) chewing upAsimov's memory space.Mark PercivalSyndicomm.com Apple II Forum RTC Host"Midweek Madness" every Wednesday night!7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Pacific Time(PERCIM, 3539.55, Delphi A2 web side)[EOA][TTC]-------------------------------             THE TINKERER'S CORNER |------------------------------------by Lyle Syverson <lyle@foxvalley.net>                           Persistence Pays Off                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     It was my weekly visit to the local Salvation Army "As Is" store...all sales are final here... no returns of merchandise that doesn't work.     It was a sorry looking sight.  On the bench in the back corner of thestore, in the computer section, lay a IIgs.  Covered with fly specks anddust.  Hmm... a IIgs monitor, an 85MB SCSI drive, a ImageWriter II... allwith matching fly specks and dust... this must be a complete system!  IIgsowner's manual, Appleworks GS manual, "Care and Feeding the Q Drive"...this was getting interesting.     Taking the cover off the IIgs revealed an Apple HS SCSI card and ashort RAM card with 4 memory chips and sockets for 4 more.     CPU, monitor and SCSI drive at $5 each... less 10% senior discount...$12.50 total.  I opted not to buy the printer.     After a good cleanup with the vac and a damp rag the equipment waslooking good.  Then the moment of truth... ROM 1... clock reads right date,is one hour slow... the ram card has 4MB plus 4 empty sockets.  Passes selftest... RAM passes BitBanger test.     Boots up to System 6... then the *loud* sound reminding one of thetrumpet of an angry elephant... then the black screen with a graphic,reading "Is Anyone There" moving up and down endlessly... the former ownerwas a joker.  :)     Moved the system software to a temp folder and installed System 6.01.Exploration of the Hard Drive revealed Appleworks GS and lots of games.Not bad for a spare IIgs system.  :)[EOA]------------------------------------             LETTERS TO THE EDITOR |------------------------------------[NLE]NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month.[EOA][LTE]AN INVITATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of theApple II computers.Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor <lyle@FoxValley.net>The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted.The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considersunsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_.[EOA][KFT]------------------------------                       KFest 2002 |-----------------------------------[YAI]YOU ARE INVITED"""""""""""""""                   OH MY LORD, WE'RE GOING TO THE DANCE!                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~By: Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W.     A few years ago, when the University of Hawai'i men's basketball teamearned its way into the National Collegiate Athletic Associationchampionship tournament--known alternatively as "March Madness" and "TheBig Dance"--with an improbable run through an impossible field of WesternAthletic Conference opponents, legend has it one of the homegrown playerson the Hawai'i roster screamed at the top of his lungs, "Oh my Lord, we'regoing to the dance!"     Who wouldn't be excited?  March Madness is a gathering of the best ofcollege athletics in this country, and while some may leave disappointed,no one regrets going, although many regret squandering the chance to go.     The Apple II Community has its own Big Dance--it's called KansasFest.It is indeed a gathering of the best the Apple II world has to offer, butunlike college basketball's Big Dance, no one leaves disappointed, unlessit's because they couldn't do everything they wanted to, and like collegebasketball's Big Dance, many regret squandering their chance to go.     Unlike March Madness, the field isn't limited to those who are invitedonly--or rather, everyone's invited.     Don't live with regrets--go to the dance.--Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- Chief Sysop, Palm OS on Syndicomm.comPublisher, The Lamp! -- Editor, A2 News and Notes -- Staff, Juiced.GSApple II Forever! -- Speak softly and wear loud shorts[EOA][FPF]GOOD FOOD PROMOTES FELLOWSHIP"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Subject: (kfest) Tuesday dinnerOnce again, I would like to suggest a trip to Stephenson's Apple Orchardfor dinner on Tuesday.I thought they did an excellent job of dealing with the large group andindividual checks. And besides, it's still my favorite KC restaurant.Cindy(Cindy Adams, KFest Mailing List)[EOA][SNY]PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP FOR NEXT YEAR ALREADY!""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Subject: (kfest) KFest 2003From the KFest marketing department ----Now is the time for you to consider KFest 2003. Some folks are so excited,they've already signed up for next year's wondrous event. Yep! Theirregistration is paid and they are ready and waiting in line. We promisedanonymity, so we're not at liberty to divulge the names of those who arealready first in line for next year, but it proves that it's never tooearly to sign up for KFest! If you hurry, you can be next. If you hurryreal fast, you could even be second, third or fourth in line! :)Before you ask, we don't know the dates yet.Cindy(Cindy Adams, KFest Mailing List)[EOA][KFR]K-FEST 2002 REGISTRATION INFORMATION""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""KFEST 2002 REGISTRATION:+++ Please note: You MUST send the NEW registration form below (via postal    mail or fax) when you register.KFest 2002 Registration Info... meet old A2 friends... meet new friends...""""""""""""""""""""""""""""When: July 23-28, 2002Where: Avila College, Kansas City, MissouriThe most important Apple II event of the year, KFest 2002, is on ourcalendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a place onyour calendar, too.Check these rates, which include your room from Tuesday and meals fromWednesday evening (dinner) on July 24, through Sunday morning (breakfast)on July 28. (Saturday evening dinner not included. That's KFesters' NightOut On The Town!)PLEASE NOTE: There is no "extra day" fee this year. Because of thepopularity, we've arranged to make Tuesday an official part of KFest!KFest 2002 Registration FormView and print this document using 9-point Monaco or Courier font (thedefault of most monospaced font applications such as ProTERM & Spectrum).Registering for KFest 2002:   NOTE: - The information requested in the KFest Registration Form below           must be sent even though the information is called in.         - If a member of the family accompanies you to KFest, please send           a separate registration form for each person.     <> Fax or email KFest Registration Form using a credit card number:        - Complete the form below and send the KFest Registration Form;          (EMAIL IS NOT SECURE).     <> By postal mail: Credit card, check, Purchase Order or money order:        - Print and fill out the KFest Registration Form.        - Send the form with the payment to:          InTrec Software, Inc.       <kfest@intrec.com>          Attn: KFest Registration     Voc: 602/992-1345          3035 E Topaz Cir             Fax: 602/992-0232          Phoenix, Az 85028-4423Discover/Novus, Visa, Mastercard or AmEx accepted. Checks & money ordersmust be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a USbank.---[ Begin Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---=>___                           =>___First Name                      Last Name=>___Organization (if applicable to KFest)=>___Shipping Address=>___City=>___State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code=>___                           =>___Day Phone                       Eve Phone=>___Internet Mail Address=>___                                               =>___Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discover/Novus-AmEx) Expiration Date=>___Name on Card (please print clearly)=>___Authorized Signature (If printed and mailed, or faxed.)If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure,consider mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice to give the cardnumber.Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds.Registration Cost Check each Applicable Line~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+++ Early Bird rates (Register BEFORE May 15) +++ 7 [ ]  Double Room before 5/15 ..............................  265.00 8 [ ]  Single Room before 5/15 ..............................  330.00 9 [ ]  Spouse or child before 5/15 ..........................  200.0010 [ ]  Registration only (no room or meals) before 5/15 ...... 200.00+++ Rates after the Early Bird Special (Register AFTER May 15) +++Rates (after May 15 and at the door):11 [ ]  Double Room  .........................................  335.0012 [ ]  Single Room  .........................................  385.0013 [ ]  Spouse or child  .....................................  285.0014 [ ]  Registration only (no room or meals) after 5/15.......  285.00T-Shirts must be ordered in advance15 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear Small ...............................   15.0016 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear Medium ..............................   15.0017 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear Large ...............................   15.0018 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 1X-Large ............................   15.0019 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 2X-Large ............................   15.0020 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 3X-Large ............................   16.0021 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 4X-Large ............................   17.0022 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 5X-Large ............................   18.0023 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 6X-Large ............................   19.0024 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 7X-Large ............................   20.0025 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 8X-Large ............................   21.0026 [ ]  T-Shirt softwear 9X-Large ............................   22.00May we send your registration confirmation via e-mail? [ ]Yes [ ]No[ ] As a PDF (Acrobat Reader) file  (preferred)[ ] As a TEXT file mailed to the listed addressRoommate preference: =>___Prefer smoking/non-smoking roommate: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smokeToday's Date: _=>___        /       /1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... =>__2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... =>__3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ................ =>__4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... =>__5- Arizona residents only add 8.1% tax: .............. =>__6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. =>__---[ End Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]---Check-in will be from 1-4 pm on Tuesday. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pmon Sunday.Current plans call for formal KFest 2002 sessions to begin with dinner inthe Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followedby the traditional opening event, the Keynote Address. We've got some greatplans again for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!!Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software andhardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fairslated for Saturday afternoon.Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinnerthrough Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday  dinner.On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many finerestaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of KFesters at a localfavorite selected by the Roastee.All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legalguardian.***KFest 2002 is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers ofProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh.If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you canfind answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to:kfest-help@kfest.org... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page: <http://www.kfest.org>If you're thinking about attending KFest, you'll enjoy the KFest Internete-mail chat:To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email to:<mailto: majordomo@kfest.org>.Place the following text in the BODY of the message:       subscribe kfestYou will receive a confirmation e-mail. To be signed up for the list, youwill have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate, andthen you will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list.Sponsored by:InTrec Software, Inc.3035 E Topaz CirclePhoenix, AZ 85028-4423Voc:602/992-1345Fax:602/992-0232<kfest@intrec.com>(KFESTSTEVE [Gouda], Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 24, Syndicomm A2)[EOA][INN]------------------------------                     EXTRA INNINGS |-----------------------------------About The Lamp!   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